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Jan 20th, 2008, 09:48 AM
Am I being thick here or were Tier II events stronger than Tier I events last year?

Here's a list of the winners of each event from 2007 as a reminder of what was what.

Australian Open S. Williams
Roland Garros Hénin
Wimbledon V. Williams
U.S. Open Hénin

Madrid Championships Hénin

Pan Pacific (Tokyo) Hingis
Indian Wells Hantuchova
Miami S. Williams
Charleston Jankovic
German Open (Berlin) Ivanovic
Italian Open (Rome) Jankovic
San Diego Sharapova
Canadian Open Hénin
Moscow Dementieva
Zürich Hénin

Sydney Clijsters
Paris Petrova
Antwerp Mauresmo
Dubai Hénin
Doha Hénin
Amelia Island Golovin
Warsaw Hénin
Eastbourne Hénin
Stanford Chakvetadze
Los Angeles Ivanovic
New Haven Kuznetsova
Beijing Szavay
Luxembourg Ivanovic
Stuttgart Hénin
Linz Hantuchova



Jan 20th, 2008, 09:55 AM
In the Tier 1 events, only Hantuchova is a little bit weak and the others are really strong. But don't forget Hantuchova also won Indian Wells in 2002, so she should deserve for the title.

Jan 20th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Pan Pacific (Tokyo) Hingis - 5 grand slams
Indian Wells Hantuchova- 2nd time for IW, former Top 5
Miami S. Williams- 8 grand slams
Charleston Jankovic- World no. 4 now
German Open (Berlin) Ivanovic- World no. 3 now
Italian Open (Rome) Jankovic- World no. 4 now
San Diego Sharapova- 2 grand slams
Canadian Open Hénin- World no. 1 and 6 grand slams
Moscow Dementieva- Former world no. 4 & 2 grand slam runner ups
Zürich Hénin- World no. 1 and 6 grand slams

They all deserved to the Tier 1 titles.

Jan 20th, 2008, 01:31 PM
some Tier II are stronger than Tier I like Sidney, but in general they're similar strong.

Jan 20th, 2008, 02:30 PM
That all ends this year. Then it's A and B, and B is much weaker

Jan 20th, 2008, 03:31 PM
You can't judge a tournaments strength based on just the winner. Some T2s are strong - Sydney and Eastbourne, because they are the only chance for players to play a warm up before a GS. Others - Dubai, Filderstad are strong because of $$$.
Tokyo PP has become weak in recent years because it comes right off the heels of the AO, but in the 90s Graf, Sabatini, Seles, Navratilova all routinely showed up.

You really need to look at the average ranking of all players in a draw, number of top 10, top 20 players etc, not just who managed to come away with the win.

Jan 20th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Well I think any player would want to win a Tier I over II, clearly, and I think they boast, in general, the stronger fields :)

Jan 20th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Sydney, Dubai, Eastbourne and Stuttgart are stronger than some tier I events, like Montreal/Toronto, Indian Wells