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~Eclipsed~
May 25th, 2008, 10:19 PM
Why is everyone so upset that Jelena pulled out of Barcelona? :shrug:

Maybe she finally realized it's better that she play on her stronger surface. I think it's a smart decision. Having said that, i just hope this isn't a start to a string of withdrawls. :unsure:

OZTENNIS
May 25th, 2008, 10:29 PM
^^^^
I think that's why everyone is worried

Harvs
May 25th, 2008, 10:37 PM
idiot.

this was another huge oppurtunity to do well without a WC... :(

jela_dokic
May 26th, 2008, 02:53 AM
I think that Jelena needs to be playing after Tiro a Volo (75K) in grass, to prepare herself to play in Wimbledon....

Anyway, Barcelona could be a huge challenge for her, but still in clay court surface... she needs to play at least one match in grass before she will try to qualify for Wimbledon.... that´s my opinion....

LuChO...

WhatTheDeuce
May 26th, 2008, 06:36 AM
If she can still afford to use another WC before Wimbledon I'm sure she'll try to get into a grass warmup, but nobody seems sure if that's the case. :shrug:

Привет
May 26th, 2008, 08:13 AM
As long as she keeps playing. Can Jelena use any more WCs now? :confused: Has she used all of them? And if she has, can't she still get into tournaments if she's offered a WC? :confused: So confusing. :lol:

cn ireland
May 26th, 2008, 04:46 PM
To be honest I think its a wise move for JD to withdraw from Barcelona. Even though its a WTA level event (and usually i'd be criticising JD for withdrawing) playing here could jeopardise her chances at Wimby qualies.

Hope she plays Rome though:)!

hdfb
May 26th, 2008, 10:28 PM
I think it's a smart move as well. Rome is enough. She needs to get practice on grass, which everyone here has just about said pretty much.
At this stage I'm not too phased about her going into her withdrawal sprees again, it's only one withdrawal, and I believe she did it for a better cause in mind, which was to play Wimbledon.

xcrtbckhnd
May 27th, 2008, 12:34 AM
Perhaps Jelena already found out that she got a QWC for Wimby and realized the scheduling conflict? She's still playing Rome as far as we know, but she's going to need to start transitioning to hard courts sooner or later. Better to get a Wimby prep even if she doesn't get to play a warm-up tournament.

WhatTheDeuce
May 27th, 2008, 12:56 AM
She's still entered in an Italian 25K the week of Barcelona. :shrug:

Havok
May 27th, 2008, 02:14 AM
Oh Jelena, always the mysterious one. What ever happened to her whoring up the tour calendar?:sad:

Anyways, I'm a little upset that she pulled out of Barcelona. That would have been a nice opportunity to gain some ranking points at a WTA TOur event without the aid of a wildcard. As long as she rocks out at Wimbledon, that's all that matters and hopefully she goes into Wimbledon with good preparation.

Slutati
May 27th, 2008, 03:05 AM
She's still entered in an Italian 25K the week of Barcelona. :shrug:
OMG, your sig:spit: I just googled Jesus in female form to see if it really works:o:tape:

Just Do It
May 27th, 2008, 10:49 AM
If she plays that 25k event instead of Barcelona ... :spit:

Maybe she does not wanna get out of Italy :shrug:

Just Do It
May 27th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Jelena is 22nd in Qulaies @ that Italian 25k event starting on 9th June. She might get in MD directly with her ranking 318.

Vulturepova
May 27th, 2008, 01:26 PM
Another 25K? Maybe shes too comfortable at these events now. I wonder how high up the rankings she could go playing and winning every 25K she enters? I suppose it worked for Muller.
Honestly though, I see nothing wrong with playing these tournaments just now for the points, but Barcelona would have been just the right kind of step up.

I might consider heading down to Wimbledon if Jelena was definately gonna be there.

AaronJoyB
May 27th, 2008, 03:03 PM
Jelena recieved a MDWC for Rome 75k Tiro a Volo next week.
Its official

jela_dokic
May 27th, 2008, 03:23 PM
It´s that true?

thanks for the info migrate...

What about lucic?

Just Do It
May 27th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Shewasted a WC for this 75k event and she could get in Q draw without WC ? Huh ?

Good luck next week, anyway, Jelena :yeah:

WhatTheDeuce
May 27th, 2008, 07:17 PM
Ok, so that answers that question about wildcards. :haha: She used a WC for this Rome 75K, and she's still eligible to get one for Wimbledon. She should really try and gain entry into a grass warmup before Wimbledon instead of that 25K in Italy.

Just Do It
May 27th, 2008, 08:08 PM
^ It's too late to enter those Grass tournaments now unless she gets a wild card for them as well, which I highly doubt.

Golovinjured.
May 27th, 2008, 08:45 PM
WC WTA Hobart
WC AUS OPEN
WC WTA Fes
WC ITF Florence
WC WTA Strasbourg
WC ITF Rome Tiro a Volo

Can't she only use 6 WC's in 12 months? I read somewhere that players are eligable for 6 WTA WC's and 6 ITF WC's, is this the case? If it is, do Grand Slams count as ITF events or WTA? If it's not the case - how's she supposed to get into Wimbledon?

Golovinjured.
May 27th, 2008, 08:55 PM
Jelena recieved a MDWC for Rome 75k Tiro a Volo next week.
Its official

Hey Migrate my good friend, are you lucky enough to go to this event aswell?

WhatTheDeuce
May 27th, 2008, 09:05 PM
^ It's too late to enter those Grass tournaments now unless she gets a wild card for them as well, which I highly doubt.
She should definitely try to. I don't understand her obsession with clay.

ce
May 27th, 2008, 09:11 PM
i dont get this girl :o
anyway good luck

Golovinjured.
May 27th, 2008, 09:27 PM
So she has recieved MDWC for Rome Tiro a Volo, which starts on Monday.

In 25K Campobasso, Jelena is 5 out of MD and withdrawal deadline is today, there are alot of priority 2 and 3 ahead of her so she could make it.

She has also entered the $10K Torino (:o) the week before Wimbledon and she's 11th in the MD. I doubt she'll play this event though.

02 June - $75K Rome Tiro a Volo (MDWC)
09 June - $25K Campobasso (5 out of MD)
16 June - $10K Torino (11th in MD)
23 June - Wimbledon (we hope)

Golovinjured.
May 28th, 2008, 12:31 AM
It looks like she will be playing this $75K so here are the projected rankings based on how well she does..

ITF $75K + H
Lose R1: 96.00 + 01.00 = 097.00 (265-267)
Lose R2: 96.00 + 08.00 = 104.00 (246)
Lose QF: 96.00 + 16.00 = 112.00 (236-239)
Lose SF: 96.00 + 29.00 = 125.00 (220)
Loses F: 96.00 + 45.00 = 141.00 (204)
Win ITF: 96.00 + 65.00 = 161.00 (185)

ITF $75K
Lose R1: 96.00 + 01.00 = 097.00 (265-267)
Lose R2: 96.00 + 07.00 = 103.00 (248-253)
Lose QF: 96.00 + 15.00 = 111.00 (240)
Lose SF: 96.00 + 25.00 = 121.00 (223-224)
Loses F: 96.00 + 39.00 = 135.00 (211-212)
Win ITF: 96.00 + 55.00 = 151.00 (189)

I'm not sure which one it is, but I'm pretty sure it's the second scenario. Now I'm gonna go and post this in the rankings thread :p

Just Do It
May 28th, 2008, 10:03 AM
Can't she only use 6 WC's in 12 months? I read somewhere that players are eligable for 6 WTA WC's and 6 ITF WC's, is this the case? If it is, do Grand Slams count as ITF events or WTA? If it's not the case - how's she supposed to get into Wimbledon?

6 WTA and 6 ITF wl cards ? Well,she used only 4 WTA Wild Cards. If that is true Jelena has 2 more left and plus 4 ITF Wild Cards left.

cn ireland
May 28th, 2008, 06:06 PM
I also thought last yr that I read that WTA and ITF wildcards were separate, but i'm not 100% sure. It would be great if it was true though.

Anyway i'm sure Jelena knows the way it works and I doubt she'd have asked for a wildcard for Rome if it meant she couldn't use one for Wimbledon.

Still no announcement of any wildcards on the itf site yet though.

killy
May 28th, 2008, 08:25 PM
Info from the ITF and the WTA.

ITF (www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_30105_original.PDF)
Players who are not subject to the Age Eligibility Rule may receive a total of six (6) singles and six (6) doubles Wild Cards during a calendar year on the ITF Women’s Circuit. No player may exceed a maximum of three (3) Wild Cards in the Main Draw or a maximum of six (6) Wild Cards in the Qualifying Draw of an ITF Women’s Circuit tournament.
Each tournament in which a player earns ranking points (singles and/or doubles) counts towards a player’s number of tournaments under the Wild Card Rule. However, participation in the Draws of tournaments in which a player does not earn ranking points does not constitute competition in an ITF Women’s Circuit tournament under this rule.

WTA (http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/Pdfs/shared/thewtatour/officialrules/rules.pdf)
the maximum number of Wild Cards any player may receive into a WTA Tour singles Tournament (including Grand Slams) during a Tour Year is six (6), with a maximum of three (3) allowed in the Main Draw.
It is the Player’s responsibility to track the number of Wild Cards she has used. Players will forfeit any ranking points earned at WTA Tour Tournaments and Grand Slam events by the acceptance of Wild Cards above this limit. Wild Cards accepted into ITF Women’s Circuit events count separately.

Golovinjured.
May 28th, 2008, 08:32 PM
I'm assuming Grand Slams are ITF events.

WTA MWC STRASBOURG

WTA QWC HOBART
WTA QWC FES
_________________________________

ITF MWC ROME TIRO A VOLO

ITF QWC AUSTRALIAN OPEN
ITF QWC FLORENCE


... so a stack of WC's left :drool: She can still get WC's for 3 more WTA events, with a max of 2 into the MD. Same deal with ITF WC's.

Uranium
May 28th, 2008, 09:32 PM
so why shouldn't she just use up those 2 MDWCs on grass!!:fiery:

Havok
May 29th, 2008, 03:06 AM
She should use them during the grass court season then. Enter Birmingham (an event she has previously won and a weaker field than Eastborune) so she not only has practice on grass, but actual match play on the damn thing. Then enter Wimbledon and cause havok :drool:.

cn ireland
May 29th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Info from the ITF and the WTA.

ITF (www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_30105_original.PDF)


WTA (http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/Pdfs/shared/thewtatour/officialrules/rules.pdf)

Thats great news, thanks for clearing that up for us:D. Would love to see her use at least on of the wildcards for Birmingham so that she can get some matches on grass before she qualifies for the MD in Wimbledon:bounce:.

The ITF site has confirmed JD has a MDWC for Rome next week. SHOO :banana:.

killy
May 29th, 2008, 01:41 PM
I'm assuming Grand Slams are ITF events

Actually... (...)WTA Tour singles Tournament (including Grand Slams)(...)

Golovinjured.
May 29th, 2008, 01:48 PM
You know everything! :) Thanks again for clearing it up..

auntie janie
Jun 5th, 2008, 11:30 AM
I'm disappointed that Jelena still isn't signing up for WTA events. I've seen the entry lists for the four tournaments starting July 7th and July 14th, and she isn't on any of them, unless I somehow missed her name. Her ranking is definitely high enough to get into the qualy fields for a lot of events, but she's not even entering them. Worst of all, she didn't even enter Palermo, even though she seems to love playing in Italy! Why would she rather play 25Ks and even 10Ks when she could be picking up the big points in the WTA??? :confused: What is going on, Jelena?

OZTENNIS
Jun 5th, 2008, 11:36 AM
^^^^
Those entry lists would have come out some time ago...(6 weeks), was Jelena even ranked then? If not, she isnt allowed to sign up for WTA events

auntie janie
Jun 5th, 2008, 11:39 AM
No, those list just came out this week, and they used current rankings; I checked a couple players' rankings on the lists to make sure. Jelena would be in the 269 spot, but I checked the 300s and 400s just in case. :(

OZTENNIS
Jun 5th, 2008, 11:41 AM
Oh :lol: well that's ashame then :mad:

GeeTee
Jun 5th, 2008, 12:56 PM
Are there any exhibitions she might be in over the next week or two?

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 5th, 2008, 04:08 PM
I'm still bitter that she pulled out of Barcelona next week in favor of an Italian 25K. :o I don't know what her mindset is at all.

cn ireland
Jun 5th, 2008, 04:40 PM
It is a pity that she hasn't committed to any WTA events especially as she's won 2 matches already at a 75K. Hopefully she's just waiting for the hardcourt season to start.

Philip
Jun 5th, 2008, 05:10 PM
Well she is playing guys, thats the main thing.

She must be getting something out of playing these tournaments, more confidence, better fitness.

Maybe shes waiting her time before she really feels ready to play with the best.

:)

SM
Jun 5th, 2008, 05:37 PM
Yeah I agree...its good that shes sticking with the ITFs winning matches, getting confidence, and slowly getting the rank up.... this should be the focus of her year


by next year i hope shes ready to play a full season at wta level :)

Havok
Jun 5th, 2008, 06:35 PM
I simply think Jelena wants to stick with ITFs for a stretch of time before she starts playing on the Tour again. She said it herself that she wanted to build up her ranking by playing these smaller events so I think she will stick to them until she either attains her top 100 ranking, or better yet, when she feels as though she is ready to make the jump into the bigger leagues. It's not just the fact that we know Jelena can now play in these smaller WTA level events, but she needs to be mentally prepared as well. I don't think she's there yet, hence why she is still sticking to ITF events.
Personally I don't really care because she actually has a realistic schedule now and is playing on a regular basis, which shows she's heading in the right direction.

Golovinjured.
Jun 6th, 2008, 05:09 AM
ITF Update!

JUNE 09: 25K Campobasso - 1st in QD
JUNE 16: 10K Torino - 4th in MD
JUNE 23: 25K Padova - 37th in QD

I hope she doesn't play that 10K :help: She should make the MD in Campobasso hopefully, and 2 other Australians are there so it would be good to see how she'd stack up against either of them.

Slutati
Jun 6th, 2008, 05:16 AM
She's so going to lose in that 10k:o:lol:
Whatever, at least she's playing I don't care if it's a 10k or a grand slam as long as her sexy ass is on court:drool:

SM
Jun 6th, 2008, 08:40 AM
when i said it was good she was sticking to ITFs i didnt mean 10k..lol

Harvs
Jun 6th, 2008, 09:28 AM
i doubt shell play that 10k... i freakin hope not

Just Do It
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:12 AM
She entered that 10k event just for any case if She does not get Wimbledon WC.

Vulturepova
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:17 AM
She entered that 10k event just for any case if She does not get Wimbledon WC.

Are there no bigger events that week? I know we are all happy with any win but is a 10K not a step back at this point, 5 matches for a whopping 6 points. Jelena should be constantly raising her expectations, by playing bigger tournaments.

Golovinjured.
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:22 AM
I don't think she'll play in the 10K even if she doesn't get a Wimbledon WC. I think she knows it would be a step back, and risking a loss there would be utter humiliation.

Good news is though, that after the 25K in Padova, there is a 100K in Italy that week, so we'll hopefully see Jelena taking on more Top 100/150 players :banana: If she does well there her ranking would rise even more, and she may feel ready to hit the WTA circuit on a regular basis.

Just Do It
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:27 AM
Are there no bigger events that week? I know we are all happy with any win but is a 10K not a step back at this point, 5 matches for a whopping 6 points. Jelena should be constantly raising her expectations, by playing bigger tournaments.

That 10k event is the only tournament in Italy that week.

Vulturepova
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:33 AM
That 10k event is the only tournament in Italy that week.

Is Jelena deadset on playing in Italy?
Do you think it is a good idea for her to play it?
I really hope she is in Wimbledon qualies.

Just Do It
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:45 AM
Is Jelena deadset on playing in Italy?
Do you think it is a good idea for her to play it?
I really hope she is in Wimbledon qualies.

I doubt she will play it because I am 99% sure she is getting Wimbledon WC.

Vulturepova
Jun 6th, 2008, 11:56 AM
I doubt she will play it because I am 99% sure she is getting Wimbledon WC.

For sure? For the maindraw?
Sorry if I missed this somewhere.

cn ireland
Jun 6th, 2008, 01:27 PM
To be honest being a Dokic fan over the last few yrs has been frustrating as she hasn't played many tournaments. So i'm happy whatever event she plays.

Having said that i'd be absolutely thrilled if she plays Wimbledon :bounce:.

CrybabyRussiafan
Jun 6th, 2008, 05:53 PM
It would be great to see Jelena at a slam again, BUT the change from several weeks on clay to grass would be pretty sudden and may result in another disappointing loss. Maybe she should wait, play the 25K and 100K then focus on returning to slam level at US Open.

As to whether she should play the 10K, maybe a rest week would be good, and after reaching SF 75K it would be a massive step down, still it's up to Jelena I guess.

Just Do It
Jun 7th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Now I am wondering will Jelena be able to play upcoming 25k event ? she is currently first in Q.

Highlandman
Jun 7th, 2008, 01:08 PM
Now I am wondering will Jelena be able to play upcoming 25k event ? she is currently first in Q.

Normally yes , 'cause of the SE. :awww:

Cankarlo
Jun 9th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Jelena withdrew from 25k Campobasso event. She is not in the MD of it. I hope it is not serious with Jelena. I guess she is preparing for the grass.

auntie janie
Jun 9th, 2008, 07:00 PM
I seriously doubt she's preparing for grass. She has signed up to play Italian ITFs on clay next week (that 10K! :o ) and the week after, and probably the week after that.

Hope she recovers quickly from this injury. In a way maybe it's good in that it's forcing her to take a break. :) Hopefully it'll be just a small break!

Just Do It
Jun 9th, 2008, 08:09 PM
^ She is entering those events just in order if she does not get Wimbledon WC. She said numerious times she is expecting a wild card. i hate how journalists are not calling her for some informations, or something :(

Vicky88
Jun 9th, 2008, 09:05 PM
I've never been a big Dokic fan, however I feel based on her recent results and her history with Wimbledon she would have to be a good chance for a WC for qualifying at least.

I would prefer if she did not play any of the 10ks, I think it makes sense for her to conserve her energies for 25k+ at this time. With her ranking climbing as rapidly as it is, surely she must be borderline for getting in on her ranking for qualifying at least on some lower ranked tourneys.

Golovinjured.
Jun 10th, 2008, 04:15 AM
It seems like she wants to stay within and around western Europe. If money is still an issue with Jelena then I could understand this, because lets face it - her purse isn't tearing at the seams with the money she's earning at these ITF's.

I feel that if she has a good Wimbledon (meaning a WC of course) and maybe qualifying or reaching the 2nd Round, then I think she may begin to enter some WTA events on the US hardcourts, otherwise she may stick to ITF's for a while yet. I don't know why she's not even entering any WTA events for the sake of it :shrug:

We should know pretty soon if she has a Wimbledon WC, especially if its for qualifying.

If Jelena is training on grass right now that would be my dream. She should be at the All England club right now practicing - showing some (more) commitment to tennis and Wimbledon. And keep training for now on in until Wimbledon quallies begin, really getting a feel for the grass, and then draw the lowest ranked clay specialist in the QR1 :) Completely bypass that 10K in Torino :o

Mr.Kardashian
Jun 10th, 2008, 11:30 AM
sounds good..... i hope she playes wimbledon... she has nothing to lose but wherever she plays im happy shes back

Just Do It
Jun 10th, 2008, 04:14 PM
Jelena did not get a Wimbledon WC in the first announcement. Still 2 MDWC and 4 QWC's left though.

It looks there is a problem with Jelena, I guess they are still thinking about giving her one.

cn ireland
Jun 10th, 2008, 05:52 PM
Jelena did not get a Wimbledon WC in the first announcement. Still 2 MDWC and 4 QWC's left though.

It looks there is a problem with Jelena, I guess they are still thinking about giving her one..

I don't like the look of that to be honest:(. I think Wimbledon would've offered her one but that she's turned it down because of injury. You don't know much I want to be wrong though!!!!!!!!

vutt
Jun 10th, 2008, 07:00 PM
Jelena did not get a Wimbledon WC in the first announcement. Still 2 MDWC and 4 QWC's left though.

It looks there is a problem with Jelena, I guess they are still thinking about giving her one.

We don't know if she have asked it at all. All we know from her(from youtube interview) that she likes to play in Italy. She even went so far that instead of granted WTA main draw WC in spain she choose ITF tournie in Italy.

Just Do It
Jun 10th, 2008, 08:13 PM
We don't know if she have asked it at all. All we know from her(from youtube interview) that she likes to play in Italy. She even went so far that instead of granted WTA main draw WC in spain she choose ITF tournie in Italy.

That is not true. She took a break this week.Playing Barcelona this week on clay and then rushing to London qualies wouldnt be smart at all. The best scenario would be :

Jelena soon goes to London where she will have 3-4 days to work on grass and get ready for Wimbledon qualies.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 10th, 2008, 08:21 PM
That is not true. She took a break this week.
Only because she got an injury in Rome.

Uranium
Jun 10th, 2008, 09:00 PM
Dokic entered 100k Cuneo and in ALTs;)

Babolatpro880
Jun 10th, 2008, 09:51 PM
To clear things up, the Barcelona would've been a feed up, not a wildcard, and it would've been for the qualifying, not the main draw. Therefore, she chose 75K Rome instead of Barcelona qualifying, which turned out to be a good choice.

vutt
Jun 11th, 2008, 06:25 AM
To clear things up, the Barcelona would've been a feed up, not a wildcard, and it would've been for the qualifying, not the main draw. Therefore, she chose 75K Rome instead of Barcelona qualifying, which turned out to be a good choice.

ok, thanks for info.

Mr.Kardashian
Jun 11th, 2008, 07:39 AM
i really hope she is alright.... a quallie WC would be better in my opinion for wimbledon but whatever happens happens....

Vulturepova
Jun 11th, 2008, 11:35 AM
I dont think Jelena will get a MD wildcard, but Im almost certain of a qualies one if she wants it. That way she could realistically win 3 matches and gain 30 points, then with some match practice in she can maybe win a MD match for another 60 points.

It may all not happen but it's not impossible. I dont think it would accomplish anything for Jelena to be thrown into the deep end and placed in the maindraw.

jela_dokic
Jun 11th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Let´s hope that Jelena recieved a QWC for Wimbledon.... it would be better to see her playing un grass since long time ago...

Good Luck Jela!!

Just Do It
Jun 11th, 2008, 05:05 PM
Remaining wild cards should be announced thisweek, right ? Q draw starts on wednesday ?

cn ireland
Jun 11th, 2008, 05:34 PM
I asked in the Wimbledon forum if Jelena was still on the alt and the reply was that she was never on it in the 1st place.

Hopefully they didn't check down as far as the 400s cos if she's not on the alt list I can't see her getting a WC :(!

But didn't JD say she'd requested one?

Just Do It
Jun 11th, 2008, 05:55 PM
^ Jelena cant be on the list because she was unranked at that time when they made it ( 6 weeks ago ).

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 13th, 2008, 09:30 PM
No Wimbledon.

If she plays that 10K... :o

ce
Jun 14th, 2008, 08:14 AM
she hasnt withdraw yet :o

Darop.
Jun 14th, 2008, 08:47 AM
So Wimbledon is out of the question?

Golovinjured.
Jun 14th, 2008, 08:52 AM
:sad: It's looking increasingly doubtful.

I want her to play the 10K, because now I'm nervous and scared about Dokic doing a disappearing act again. I don't wanna think about it though.

Where is MilanDokic? Did Jelena meet with Damir and all that? We haven't had news in a long time from him.

auntie janie
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:01 AM
If she plays the 10K, she'd better win it! :(

Just Do It
Jun 14th, 2008, 11:09 AM
One MDWC is left. I still hope Jelena could get it.

I just hope she is not seriously injured.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 14th, 2008, 06:31 PM
I want her to play the 10K, because now I'm nervous and scared about Dokic doing a disappearing act again.
Same. :sad:

Wimbledon is out of the question, I guarantee you that last MWC has nothing to do with Jelena. :o

Golovinjured.
Jun 15th, 2008, 11:37 AM
Dokic Schedule Update :)

16 JUNE - $10K Torino (4th in MD)
23 JUNE - $25K Padova (3rd in QD)
30 JUNE - $100K Cuneo (19th Alt.)

The good news is that the week beginning July 7, the WTA tournament in Palermo, ITALY takes place. It's on clay and in Italy - which seems to be Jelena's preference at the moment - so she SHOULD commit here :bounce:

Then the following week, there is another $100K on the Italian clay, this time in Biella. So there are huge points on offer for Jelena in the next month or so. Hopefully she can stay fit, and win as many points as possible!

Forget the dickheads at Wimbly, Jelena. Come back to Grand Slam level with a bang at the US Open =)

auntie janie
Jun 15th, 2008, 11:45 AM
But Jelena didn't enter Palermo; the entry list came out a couple weeks ago. I still hope they'll consider giving her a WC, but she should have entered it. What's so tough about a WTA Tier 4 event if you're willing to play 100K's? :confused:

Golovinjured.
Jun 15th, 2008, 12:13 PM
Yeah I checked the Palermo thread. :( Why doesn't she enter any of them for the hell of it!

Hope she can get a wildcard. She's performed well on the Italian clay, so I'd say if she wants one she would certainly be considered.

xcrtbckhnd
Jun 15th, 2008, 01:11 PM
Isn't there still one MDWC left? If so, I think Jelena has a decent shot at receiving it. I haven't totally given up on her Wimby chances yet!

~Eclipsed~
Jun 16th, 2008, 02:38 AM
So instead of trying to playing Wimbledon which she isn't going to do since the last WC went to Zheng, she is playing a $10k on clay. :weirdo:

In any case, i hope she wins it or it'll be pretty embarrassing and fortunately after this $10k there are mainly higher level itfs. She should enter Palermo as well. No reason she has to stay away from all wta tour level events.

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 03:46 AM
Drop the 10k I say. It's a waste of energy for a little amount of points.

King Aaron
Jun 16th, 2008, 08:15 AM
She should withdraw from the $10K. :help: @ her scheduling.

frenchie
Jun 16th, 2008, 11:31 AM
Jelena has never been the queen of scheduling anyway!

Just Do It
Jun 16th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Main draw for Torino should be out today. Cant wait to see it.

Can anyone give us an update about Jelena's schedule ? I am wodering will she enter US series tournaments, since she said she is planning to play US qualies. With this ranking 227 she would most definitely get it without wild card.

Vulturepova
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:23 PM
Please tell me she is withdrawing from this 10k :help:

IceHock
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:53 PM
I'm astonished at some of the ones who recieved a wild card and Jelena did not, I know she said she wanted to come back the hard way but this is a bit ridiculous.

cn ireland
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:09 PM
Please tell me she is withdrawing from this 10k :help:

Yes she has as she's not in the MD. I think her leg injury could be quite serious as she's withdrawn from the 100k in 2 weeks time aswell:sad:.

Get well soon Jelena:D.

Vulturepova
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:10 PM
Yes she has as she's not in the MD. I think her leg injury could be quite serious as she's withdrawn from the 100k in 2 weeks time aswell:sad:.

Get well soon Jelena:D.

Oh damn :( I didnt want her to withdraw from both! Hopefully she takes a break and is better in a couple of weeks.

ce
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:21 PM
noo :sobbing:

Just Do It
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:27 PM
Oh no :( That explains it all. Wimbledon was waiting till yesterday for her to accept wild card :hug:

Get well soo, Jelena. I hope we get some updates what's going on.

cn ireland
Jun 16th, 2008, 06:48 PM
Oh no :( That explains it all. Wimbledon was waiting till yesterday for her to accept wild card :hug:

Get well soo, Jelena. I hope we get some updates what's going on.

Do you think they offered her a MDWC? Its almost worse if they did cos I was so close to seeing her on tv again then:sad:.

She withdrew from the 100k on June 8th, the day after the Garbin match so I think she probably knew she wouldn't be able to play Wimby then:sad:.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 16th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Oh no :( That explains it all. Wimbledon was waiting till yesterday for her to accept wild card :hug:
LOL. *jdi

Poor Jelena, I hope she recovers quickly. :sad:

auntie janie
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:33 PM
Main draw for Torino should be out today. Cant wait to see it.

Can anyone give us an update about Jelena's schedule ? I am wodering will she enter US series tournaments, since she said she is planning to play US qualies. With this ranking 227 she would most definitely get it without wild card.

Nope, she's not on the entry lists for LA or Stanford. In fact, she's not on any WTA entry list.

Tomorrow we can see if she's entered the Rome 25K that starts July 7th -- if she doesn't enter that, or if she has already withdrawn, then things are looking pretty bad. :sad:

DaNieLa RoCkZ
Jun 17th, 2008, 12:04 AM
:rolleyes:

SM
Jun 17th, 2008, 05:55 AM
give her a break people...atleast she seems to be playing a fair bit this year, she is likely injured and will return when shes 100% rather than risk making it worse..

Golovinjured.
Jun 17th, 2008, 07:23 AM
:sad: Get better Jelena :hug:

.. if you ARE infact injured. I can never trust you anymore! Where's MilanDokic!

jd4eva
Jun 17th, 2008, 09:32 AM
I don't think its time to hit the panic button yet.

Seems like no one's really noticed that she entered 25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen the same week as Cuneo and she hasn't withdrawn from that. She's 15th in the MD

Golovinjured.
Jun 17th, 2008, 09:47 AM
I didn't even know that! That makes me feel much better honestly. She's still in Padova aswell, so it doesn't look as bad. If she wasn't planning on playing I think she would have withdrawn from all events at the one time.

It's good to see the $ next to her name is gone on the ITF site aswell :) So she doesn't have any unpaid fines or whatever it means.. lol

I hope she intends to play Palermo and the 100K in the week after.. She would greatly benefit from the larger points on offer.

muniu
Jun 17th, 2008, 09:54 AM
:sad: Get well soon Jeca !

Just Do It
Jun 17th, 2008, 11:17 AM
Hmmmm Jelena is still on the entry list for Padova 25k next week. 3rd in Qualies.

Uranium
Jun 17th, 2008, 01:03 PM
Jelena get out of the 25Ks, you pull out of a 100K to be in a 25K:o

Darop.
Jun 17th, 2008, 01:35 PM
Good if she's playing 25ks instead of 100ks, it will still help her ranking. And maybe she's just trying to not put too much pressure on herself like she did in '06, going into hiding after losing a Grand Slam match.

And she's ranked in the 200s, as long as she's not topping the lists of 25ks, why not keep playing them? :shrug:

Just Do It
Jun 17th, 2008, 03:08 PM
Jelena get out of the 25Ks, you pull out of a 100K to be in a 25K:o

She actually w/d from 100k Cuneo starting 30th Jun and she is still in for 25k Padova starting 23rd Jun. I doubt she will play Padova though.

Belco
Jun 17th, 2008, 03:37 PM
i hope she plays soon :sad:

~Eclipsed~
Jun 17th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Hey playing the $25ks is better than nothing unless her ranking gets inside the top 200. Then playing those events wont' do her much good.

Hopefully she gets better for next week!:)

cn ireland
Jun 17th, 2008, 07:14 PM
I don't mind what level event Jelena plays next as long as she's back fit and healthy and plays US open qualies if she gets the chance!

jd4eva
Jun 17th, 2008, 11:11 PM
If she is injured, which I presume she is given the fact that she withdrew from Campobasso and Torino, then I assume that she feels it would be better for her to return at a 25K rather than return immediately to a 100K event.

Clay is an exhausting surface and pretenders very seldom succeed on it. Jelena might feel that given she had to take a break because of injury, she would do better in the long-run returning at events where she can win a number of matches and get back into rhythm rather than throwing herself back in the deep-end immediately.

I think Jelena is showing a long-term approach to her comeback. This is both frustrating for her fans because we want her to start playing on the Tour regularly but it's also a positive in that she's showing maturity and judgment in her come back. I also assume that she chose to play Stuttgart because she hadn't even made the qually draw at Cuneo whereas she had made the main draw at Stuttgart and it would give her more recovery time.

Golovinjured.
Jun 18th, 2008, 06:51 AM
Hi guys!

Long time...

I have just talked to Jelena's brother, Savo. He told me Jelena has been recovered from the injury and would back to action next week!

So Jelena's commitments are now:

23 June - $25K Padova (2nd in QD)
30 June - $25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen (10th in MD)
7 July - $25K Rome-Tevere Remo (15th in QD) [this is also the week of WTA Palermo]

The week after is the $100K in Biella, Italy on clay. But there's also a $25K in Darmstadt, Germany. I think she'll put the $100K 1st priority, and the $25K second priority, and she'll choose which she thinks she's ready for.

slavicpower
Jun 18th, 2008, 09:55 AM
great schedule :drool:

Just Do It
Jun 18th, 2008, 10:16 AM
She should start playin 50k evens at least :(

Oh well, that schedule looks fine to me.

Golovinjured.
Jun 18th, 2008, 10:26 AM
I hope she makes the MD of Padova first of all, but I hope she attempts to play Palermo and/or $100K Biella. She can start to rise her level of opponent now I think.

Does anyone think Jelena will attempt to play either of these, or will she stick to the 25K's? I think she will play the $100K.

muniu
Jun 18th, 2008, 12:05 PM
I hope she makes the MD of Padova first of all, but I hope she attempts to play Palermo and/or $100K Biella. She can start to rise her level of opponent now I think.

Does anyone think Jelena will attempt to play either of these, or will she stick to the 25K's? I think she will play the $100K.

I think Jelena wants to gain "easy points" in $25K,
IMO Jelena should move to the USA ASAP in order to play on HC tournaments - what will be good preparation before US Open! :bounce:

So Disrespectful
Jun 18th, 2008, 12:29 PM
At least she's actually playing. If she can get her form and ranking up playing 25ks, who are we to complain?

ce
Jun 18th, 2008, 03:31 PM
just play :awww:

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 18th, 2008, 05:27 PM
I agree, just play. Tennis is so much more exciting with some Dokic. :drool:

But... I can't help but express my disappointment at her schedule. I mean it'd be nice to see her move up to higher level challengers, but the 25K's aren't what's bothering me - it's that she's still choosing to play on clay, her worst surface, when the hardcourt season is about to start. I don't understand this mindset, I'd do anything to ask her about what she's thinking. Are there any HC events in Italy?

Slutati
Jun 18th, 2008, 05:29 PM
Where is MilanDokic?:confused:

King Aaron
Jun 18th, 2008, 05:30 PM
It's safe to say she's playing Top 200 tennis. I think if she gets a lot of matches in, her form will continue to rise. I would love to see her playing bigger tournaments though. Best way to raise your level of play is to play against better players.

Darop.
Jun 18th, 2008, 05:45 PM
Are there any HC events in Italy?

During from spring to autumn it's only claycourts.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 18th, 2008, 05:58 PM
During from spring to autumn it's only claycourts.
Give me dates please, I'm a retard.

MilanDokic
Jun 18th, 2008, 06:03 PM
Hi guys!

Long time...

I have just talked to Jelena's brother, Savo. He has gone Turkey today. :) He told me Jelena has been recovered from the injury and would back to action next week!

cn ireland
Jun 18th, 2008, 07:19 PM
So glad that Jelena will play next week :)

It's just a pity that it couldn't have been at Wimbledon!

Thanks for the update Milan Dokic!

OZTENNIS
Jun 18th, 2008, 11:38 PM
Thanks for that news MilanDokic :)

Good luck to Jelena in Padova...the top 200 beckons :cool:

Daniel.
Jun 19th, 2008, 12:33 AM
Once again though he says as little as possible. But thanks.

~Eclipsed~
Jun 19th, 2008, 04:59 AM
At least she's actually playing. If she can get her form and ranking up playing 25ks, who are we to complain?

Yes, you dont' receive as many points for winning or even doing well in $25ks especially when you start to climb in ranking. She would get more points by winning a couple rounds in a wta tour main draw. :shrug:

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 19th, 2008, 05:11 AM
Yes, you dont' receive as many points for winning or even doing well in $25ks especially when you start to climb in ranking. She would get more points by winning a couple rounds in a wta tour main draw. :shrug:
Less match play though.

I trust that Jelena has some type of plan of action here. Maybe she knows what she's doing. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt even if I shouldn't. After all, it's a huge step up from not playing at all.

Vulturepova
Jun 19th, 2008, 08:47 AM
I think Jelena is definately playing top 200 tennis as others are saying. I mean look - she is almost top 200 with only like 7 events! She can only get better also as the year progresses, if she wins the 25k's thats 25 points but the was she is playing I'd rather she played bigger events, she is quite capable of making at least the semis of a 75K as she's shown and thats 25 points already.

Golovinjured.
Jun 19th, 2008, 08:59 AM
I think is playing atleast Top 200 tennis. But, we should remember that she has been playing on clay since after Australia, and hasn't really left the surface. I think it's a good move by Jelena because, even though it's her worse surface by far, clay is a great surface for (re)capturing the basics of the game. Long rallies, and lots of variety. Really she's learning the game all over again, and clay is the best surface to do that.

When she does leave the clay and hopefully head to the US hardcourts soon, I think her results will be at a very high level. I don't think she'd lose to players like Arn or Bacsinszky on the hardcourts, infact I'd think she'd be farely convincing.

I can't wait until she leaves the clay! I think the results then will be very impressive. US Open quallies! :armed:

Just Do It
Jun 19th, 2008, 09:13 AM
So, Padova next week ?

Golovinjured.
Jun 19th, 2008, 09:23 AM
^^ Apparently so..

2nd Alternate, could sneak in MD I hope.

cn ireland
Jun 19th, 2008, 06:56 PM
Jelena has made the MD for Padova :banana:! SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 19th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Jelena has made the MD for Padova :banana:! SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
SHOO!!!! :armed:

Golovinjured.
Jun 19th, 2008, 09:57 PM
:wooshooooooo:

IMPOSSIBLE
Jun 20th, 2008, 12:29 AM
After Padova it looks like Jelena will play

$25,000 Stuttgart [Vaihingen]
$25,000 Rome [Tevere Remo]

martinafan
Jun 22nd, 2008, 07:20 AM
I'm disappointed and surprised that Jelena pulled out of 100K Cuneo in Italy to play the 25K Stuttgart in Germany! Will be her first challenger out of Italy i believe!

Just Do It
Jun 22nd, 2008, 11:57 AM
Jelena must be fluent in Italian by now :shrug:

Glad she will play a tournament outside Italy.

Golovinjured.
Jun 25th, 2008, 03:08 AM
June 30:
$25K Stuttgart (10th in MD)

July 07:
$25K Rome (5th in MD)

July 14:
Priority 1 - $25K Darmstadt, GER (14th in QD)
Priority 2 - $100K Biella, ITA (Alt. 14)

Also, with her 1st Rnd win in Padova - she should move back up to #225 on the WTA rankings. If she wins the tournie she should be Top 200, and will overtake Nicole Pratt, Jessica Moore and Christina Wheeler in the rankings to become Australia's 8th ranked player after Dellacqua, Rodionova, Stosur, Molik, Gajdosova, Ferguson and Adamczak, and this is only her 8th tournament!

King Aaron
Jun 26th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Looks like we'll be seeing Jelena in $25Ks for a while more. I hope she takes a break after Darmstadt and start playing bigger tournaments.

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 26th, 2008, 06:28 PM
The thing is once she breaks top 200 the 25K points will start to become less and less substantial as far as her ranking goes.

jela_dokic
Jun 26th, 2008, 07:44 PM
I think that when jelena think that she is ready, she will be trying to enter on the WTA events ... but now she is enjoying her back on tennis and get a little success...

Good luck jela!!!

Golovinjured.
Jun 26th, 2008, 11:57 PM
Ideally, I think Jelena should play Stuttgart next week, then have a rest, and then play the $100K. That would be a great test and if she did well, I think she may start to play the tour a little more.

powerbackhand
Jun 27th, 2008, 09:30 AM
good luck in stuttgart jelena

Philip
Jun 27th, 2008, 10:59 PM
I have the feeling Jelena will withdraw from Stuttgart and stay in Italy to play Rome and Biella.

But hopefully not! :)

cn ireland
Jun 28th, 2008, 06:16 PM
I really hope that Jelena plays next week so that she forget about losing to Zahlavova as quickly as possible.

Just Do It
Jun 28th, 2008, 07:13 PM
Jelena is 7th in MD with priority 2. This could be a first tournament where Jelena will be seeded.

ce
Jun 28th, 2008, 07:49 PM
she should withdraw from this sheety tournament

OZTENNIS
Jun 28th, 2008, 09:23 PM
Why should she withdraw?
The draws are weaker in germany than in Italy, so why not take the opportunity to rack up a few extra points :shrug:

azza
Jun 29th, 2008, 10:54 AM
shes in a 25K Germany event next week

cn ireland
Jun 29th, 2008, 12:16 PM
Why should she withdraw?
The draws are weaker in germany than in Italy, so why not take the opportunity to rack up a few extra points :shrug:

I agree. The last thing Jelena needs is to start withdrawing from tournaments. The more matches she plays the sooner she'll get back to WTA level tournaments.

Just Do It
Jun 30th, 2008, 12:44 PM
Shouldnt MD be out by now :shrug:

Golovinjured.
Jun 30th, 2008, 01:10 PM
Should be.. but it's not on the ITF site


Jelena has withdrawn from the $100K Biella that was coming up, but is still entered in the $25K Stuttgart in the same week...

Just Do It
Jul 2nd, 2008, 09:32 PM
Next week Jelena should play Rome 25k where she is 5th in MD and then on July 14th Darmstadt 25k where she is 2nd in the MD. :tape:

Jelena, stop playing 25k's.

nakuuo
Jul 3rd, 2008, 04:54 AM
JD is 12th alternate in 75k Petange priority 1
JD is 21st in qualifying list in 25k Les Contamines priority 2
this is for week of 21-27 of July

Привет
Jul 3rd, 2008, 05:23 AM
I hope Jelena can make a few runs in some 50k or above tournaments. I'd love to see her contest some WTA tournaments before the US Open. Wonder what the likelihood of that is.

WhatTheDeuce
Jul 3rd, 2008, 05:25 AM
I hope Jelena can make a few runs in some 50k or above tournaments. I'd love to see her contest some WTA tournaments before the US Open. Wonder what the likelihood of that is.
At this rate I'm wondering if she's even gonna enter the USO with direct entry. :lol: :tape:

OZTENNIS
Jul 3rd, 2008, 05:29 AM
At this rate I'm wondering if she's even gonna enter the USO with direct entry. :lol: :tape:
You mean MD or QD?
Because she will make QD with her ranking now...:yeah:

But the big question is, will she play?
There is also a MD WC (reciprocal arrangement) on offer...Dokic is a potential candidate if she hasn't exceeded her wildcard limit

Just Do It
Jul 3rd, 2008, 06:52 AM
You mean MD or QD?
Because she will make QD with her ranking now...:yeah:

But the big question is, will she play?
There is also a MD WC (reciprocal arrangement) on offer...Dokic is a potential candidate if she hasn't exceeded her wildcard limit

No way she is getting that.

Jelena should enter US OPEN qualies with her own ranking, and not to waste wild card on that. I highly doubt she will go to US at all this year.

~Eclipsed~
Jul 3rd, 2008, 06:04 PM
No way she is getting that.

Jelena should enter US OPEN qualies with her own ranking, and not to waste wild card on that. I highly doubt she will go to US at all this year.

I don't care if she enters the U.S. to play at this point. I just wish she would get away from these 25ks. In the beginning, it was a good idea, but she has played enough of them and her ranking will go nowhere fast if she keeps playing them.

WhatTheDeuce
Jul 3rd, 2008, 06:14 PM
You mean MD or QD?
Because she will make QD with her ranking now...:yeah:

But the big question is, will she play?
There is also a MD WC (reciprocal arrangement) on offer...Dokic is a potential candidate if she hasn't exceeded her wildcard limit
I know she'll make QD with her ranking now, I'm just saying that I'm not sure she's even gonna enter given that fact. :o

cn ireland
Jul 3rd, 2008, 06:20 PM
I really hope she plays the US Open qualies but i've just got a feeling that she won't:(!

Hope i'm wrong though!

King Aaron
Jul 3rd, 2008, 06:49 PM
I don't care if she enters the U.S. to play at this point. I just wish she would get away from these 25ks. In the beginning, it was a good idea, but she has played enough of them and her ranking will go nowhere fast if she keeps playing them.
Co-sign. It's time to step it up.

So Disrespectful
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:59 AM
Maybe top 200 was her goal before entering any bigger events? Some 75ks and WTA qualifying would be nice soon. ;)

Just Do It
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:53 PM
No, seriously I just checked Palermo and Budapest WTA tournaments Q draws,and players outside top400 are playing them. Jelena would own all players in the draw. She has to start playing lower WTA tournaments ASAP :sobbing:

jela_dokic
Jul 4th, 2008, 09:59 PM
I think the same as you JustDoIt... it would be better to see her back on WTA tournaments to get more experience and confidence in her game... now the 25K are really easy for her.... I think that Jelena Deserve at least to get Q draws and qualify for the MD in a little tournament...

That´s how I think about that... but the way I see her playing at least Rome and another Germany 25K tournament...stop playing that kind of tournaments... please!

NZ tennis fan
Jul 4th, 2008, 10:20 PM
So is she playing 2 more 25k's then probably 75k qualifying? Will she even be able to play in Petange if she does well in her previous tournament? Any idea of what her schedule will be after that?

cn ireland
Jul 5th, 2008, 12:32 PM
No, seriously I just checked Palermo and Budapest WTA tournaments Q draws,and players outside top400 are playing them. Jelena would own all players in the draw. She has to start playing lower WTA tournaments ASAP :sobbing:


I completely agree. The last direct acceptance in Palermo is ranked #800!!!! Jelena would've qualified so easily:sad:.

Just Do It
Jul 6th, 2008, 09:02 PM
Jelena is not in Rome 25k Main Draw.

She could use SE for Rome, but it looks she does not wanna play. Let's hope she is not injured, and decided to take a break.

Edit : I just checked, Jelena is still at the entry list for Darmstadt, startin next week. It would be normal to come from Stuttgart to Rome and then back to Germany. Good choice.

Golovinjured.
Jul 6th, 2008, 11:22 PM
Ok, no need to panic but..

Jelena has withdrawn from all her commitments from the week commencing the 21st of July. She has wthdrawn from the 75K Petange on clay, priority 1, and the 25K Les Contamines on hardcourts, priority 2. She's also not in the draw of the 25K Rome this week.

Good news is that she is still in the Darmstadt entry list, currently 2nd.

:unsure:

Please don't go away Jelena :sad:

Привет
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:12 AM
What WTA tournaments are on that week? Maybe (unlikely I know) she is in talks for a WC into some qualifying..? :unsure:

Golovinjured.
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:24 AM
I think it's just one tournament in LA, and judging by Jelena's past schedule - I do doubt she'd jump straight from ITF clay to WTA qualifying hardcourts. Not sure though if it's the only tournament though.

auntie janie
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:40 AM
Jelena's not on the entry list for LA or for the Tier IV in Portoroz, which is also that week.

Slutati
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:42 AM
Damn :( She should've requested a Portoroz WC :bigcry:

Golovinjured.
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:54 AM
She should be playing high ITF/low WTA by now - her ranking and results permit it. If she had entered Budapest this coming week, she would have been seeded 3rd in qualifying, and would have also made qualifying in Palermo :eek:


:sad: Don't go Jelena

powerbackhand
Jul 7th, 2008, 08:33 AM
move up jelena

Just Do It
Jul 7th, 2008, 11:47 AM
it looks she will play Darmstad 25k next week and then start playing WTA events ? :unsure:

Belco
Jul 7th, 2008, 12:48 PM
cmon jelena

play some WTA events :D

Привет
Jul 7th, 2008, 01:11 PM
Hradecka and Chvojkova both just qualified for the Budapest MD. Jelena has beaten these two players this year. Just enter some WTA's already. :)

ce
Jul 7th, 2008, 02:15 PM
:scared:

cn ireland
Jul 7th, 2008, 06:47 PM
I suppose it makes sense for JD to withdraw from Rome and stay in Germany, however I am disappointed that she withdrew from the 75K in Luxemberg.

Start playing WTA events soon Jelena!!!!!!!!

OZTENNIS
Jul 7th, 2008, 10:24 PM
Look guys, I honestly don't think she will be entering any WTA events at all in the near future.
I think she will stay in Europe and keep playing ITF's for a while.

In other words, I highly doubt she will go to America and play the US Open, which is ashame.
I really think that she has just decided to try and keep building up her ranking, form and confidence this season and prepare herself for a full time return to the WTA in 2009, starting off with the Australian events

Привет
Jul 8th, 2008, 01:59 AM
Well I really hope you're wrong, OZTENNIS. I don't see a reason or any benefits for Jelena to stay at a lower level than she is now capable of. I mean she has won 2 25k events this year, so she's obviously capable of playing some higher level tournaments. If players Jelena has beaten are qualifying for WTA tournaments, it says a lot about Jelena's chances of having a little success on the WTA. That would be a greater ranking boost then winning 25k's (which she has not been doing lately anyway), right?

In conclusion, Jelena doesn't need 6 months to build confidence and form. It'd be shame to see her not step it up to WTA level this year.

OZTENNIS
Jul 8th, 2008, 06:12 AM
^^^^
I never said that I agreed with her scheduling, it's just something I think she will do.
I don't see any benefit of her playing 25k's in Europe for the rest of the year either. But she has been doing that since April now so it's hard to think she will go the States or come to Asia for the weaker WTA events September onwards

So Disrespectful
Jul 8th, 2008, 06:20 AM
She said that her goal was to crack the top 100 in 2008, right? Well she's going about it the wrong way.

vutt
Jul 8th, 2008, 08:37 AM
...about lack of WTA! I mean can't you see writing on the wall? She have tried recently to enter 2 times WTA level tournies. Both times got beaten soundly in 1st round. On top of that over past weeks she's have not been able to win even 25k events. So I think she realises where her level is at the moment.

Golovinjured.
Jul 8th, 2008, 09:14 AM
...about lack of WTA! I mean can't you see writing on the wall? She have tried recently to enter 2 times WTA level tournies. Both times got beaten soundly in 1st round. On top of that over past weeks she's have not been able to win even 25k events. So I think she realises where her level is at the moment.

She's played 4 WTA events so far this year, including the Australian Open. She has won matches in 3 of them, including successfully qualifying for 2. I think that's proof enough that Jelena's game at the moment is good enough to compete at a level higher than $25K ITF's, however by far does that mean that I think she should play on the WTA tour week in week out.

I think she should start playing 50K-100K's week in week out, and then chuck in the odd WTA event (Tier III, IV) maybe once a month. If Jelena is keen about reaching her goals before the end of the year, than something like this needs to happen, fast. She really needs to prepare herself for, and play, the US Open.

I suppose, we can't complain as long as Jelena is playing, I just really want to see her in Australia on TV :drool:

Vulturepova
Jul 8th, 2008, 09:24 AM
She's played 4 WTA events so far this year, including the Australian Open. She has won matches in 3 of them, including successfully qualifying for 2. I think that's proof enough that Jelena's game at the moment is good enough to compete at a level higher than $25K ITF's, however by far does that mean that I think she should play on the WTA tour week in week out.

I think she should start playing 50K-100K's week in week out, and then chuck in the odd WTA event (Tier III, IV) maybe once a month. If Jelena is keen about reaching her goals before the end of the year, than something like this needs to happen, fast. She really needs to prepare herself for, and play, the US Open.

I suppose, we can't complain as long as Jelena is playing, I just really want to see her in Australia on TV :drool:

Yeah, she won matches in 3 of them, if only in the qualifying. When she did lose she lost to quality opponents, Flavia when she was injured (supposedly), Arn who went on to reach the semis of that event and Bacszinsky, who also reached the semis taking out Bondarenko along the way.

I think she needs to enter more WTA draws so that she can play against a range of opponents, in weaker events she may get a good draw and then the confidence will come.

ce
Jul 8th, 2008, 12:09 PM
Please play big events JD :sobbing:

Vicky88
Jul 8th, 2008, 01:55 PM
I actually can understand why she is sticking to these events, they are sure points and help her up the ladder slowly but surely. If a player is smart they can use the $25ks to get their ranking to a level where they are no longer required to play qualifying. Take a look at Marina Erakovic's ascent this year, she was playing the Aussie $25ks in March, did so until she was close to Top 100 then moved up a level.

cn ireland
Jul 8th, 2008, 05:03 PM
Jelena is the 6th Alt on the entry list for the 75K in Rimini, Italy which begins on July 28th.

If JD is intent on staying on the ITF circuit these are the levels of tournaments she should play all the time!!

Golovinjured.
Jul 8th, 2008, 11:20 PM
July 14-20
$25K Darmstadt: MD #2

July 21-27
Nothing

July 28-August 3
PRIORITY 1: $25K Bad Saulgau, Germany: QD #7
PRIORITY 2: $75K Rimini, Italy: Alt #5

:)

Привет
Jul 8th, 2008, 11:47 PM
^^^^
I never said that I agreed with her scheduling, it's just something I think she will do.
I don't see any benefit of her playing 25k's in Europe for the rest of the year either. But she has been doing that since April now so it's hard to think she will go the States or come to Asia for the weaker WTA events September onwards

Yeah, and I said I hope you are wrong in thinking that.

slavicpower
Jul 9th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Maybe she's back with Pilic in Germany

King Aaron
Jul 9th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Maybe she's back with Pilic in Germany
If indeed she is, he must be trying new things with her. Hard to see her winning 2 $25Ks and having a good run in a $75K then lose to 2 people she should have beaten.

But it's a long shot that she's back with Pilic. I don't think she is.

Just Do It
Jul 9th, 2008, 06:44 PM
Why would you think she is back with Pilic ? Because she is playing in Germany ? I doubt ...

vutt
Jul 10th, 2008, 08:29 AM
Maybe she's back with Pilic in Germany

She's happily working with Borna, so better quit dreaming...

Vulturepova
Jul 10th, 2008, 08:45 AM
Maybe she's back with Pilic in Germany

Paprika :scared:

Vamos Feńa
Jul 10th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Paprika :scared:

:haha:

cn ireland
Jul 12th, 2008, 12:10 PM
Jelena has withdrawn from the 75K in Rimini, Italy for the week commencing 28th July :sad: but she is still on the entry list for a 25K in Germany the same week.

I don't understand why she's not willing to play 75Ks cos she got to the semis of one in Italy a while ago:(!

Philip
Jul 12th, 2008, 08:15 PM
Jelena has withdrawn from the 75K in Rimini, Italy for the week commencing 28th July :sad: but she is still on the entry list for a 25K in Germany the same week.

I don't understand why she's not willing to play 75Ks cos she got to the semis of one in Italy a while ago:(!
:shrug:

Looks like she likes Germany at the moment! And she was always priority 1 in Germany, so it isnt a huge suprise.

Shame though!

jela_dokic
Jul 13th, 2008, 02:51 AM
When Does Jelena will start to play WTA tournaments???

25K might be over for her!!!

cn ireland
Jul 15th, 2008, 05:01 PM
Jelena is on the entry list for another 25K in Germany for the week commencing 4th August!! Its a priority 1 for JD and she's not entered into any other ITF tournaments for that week.

Let's hope she's on the entry list for a WTA tournament too:) (highly unlikely though!!)

Havok
Jul 15th, 2008, 05:25 PM
I honestly think she'll simply ride out the ITF 25K events until the end of this year. At the beginning of the year is when she usualy plays the most WTA level events because they're all in Australia. They will either give her WCs or she might be able to get direct entry thanks to her actualy playing and winning all this year. It's much easier to play WTA events when you've played a few in a row rather than playing 25Ks for a month then try to play a tour event.

Babolatpro880
Jul 15th, 2008, 05:38 PM
I'll be interested to see if she plays all those 25Ks that are in Australia later in the year.

Just Do It
Jul 15th, 2008, 05:39 PM
If she enteretd that 25k in Germany in August I highly doubt she is then playing US OPEN :shrug:

Привет
Jul 16th, 2008, 02:34 AM
I'll be interested to see if she plays all those 25Ks that are in Australia later in the year.

:lol: I think there would be quite a few of Jelena's Australian fans that would faint on the spot if that happened. ;)

Vulturepova
Jul 16th, 2008, 09:16 AM
If I understand the priority system, you put the one you want as Priority 1 (usually the bigger tourny) and the one you will probably get into as Priority 2.

So what is the point of putting a 25K as Priority 1 over a 75K, she is hardly likely to not get into the 25K only to then get into the 75K :shrug:

Maybe I dont get it though :lol:

Just play Jelena! Anywhere, really. I dont want her to have this great start and then be stuck here in the same place for the rest of the year.

Her playing years are passing too fast for her to be taking baby steps.

cosmic
Jul 16th, 2008, 12:29 PM
There's been a rumour that Jelena has been offered ( or maybe will be offered :) ) a WC for the 50K Palic, Serbia.

Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2008, 01:09 PM
^ :sobbing: I would see her then :sobbing: And take 10000 pics and videos :sobbing:

DokDi
Jul 16th, 2008, 01:13 PM
When does that tournament start?:confused:
And wouldn't she make the MD without a WC?

Just Do It
Jul 16th, 2008, 01:31 PM
11th August. Yes, I guess she would get in directly, but I doubt she will play in Serbia :(

muniu
Jul 16th, 2008, 01:58 PM
^ :sobbing: I would see her then :sobbing: And take 10000 pics and videos :sobbing:

so we would see her too :bounce:

btw is this tournament on hard ( it can be good preparation befor US Open ) :unsure:

DokDi
Jul 16th, 2008, 02:28 PM
Unfortunately it's on clay!

ce
Jul 16th, 2008, 04:32 PM
its clay,no way JD is coming to Serbia
i would so go

cn ireland
Jul 16th, 2008, 05:17 PM
It would be really nice to see Jelena step up to the 50K in Serbia, here's hoping:)!

Привет
Jul 18th, 2008, 06:28 AM
^ :sobbing: I would see her then :sobbing: And take 10000 pics and videos :sobbing:

And most likely stalk Jelena in the process. :unsure:

Just Do It
Jul 20th, 2008, 11:30 AM
Bad Suluagu, Germany 25k, 28th July. 2nd in MD.
Hechingen, germany 25k, 4th August. 1 out of MD.

Jelena, what are you doing, commit to some events in us :mad:

muniu
Jul 20th, 2008, 12:49 PM
I just hope she'll commit to Bronx :sad:

King Aaron
Jul 20th, 2008, 03:42 PM
Bad Suluagu, Germany 25k, 28th July. 2nd in MD.
Hechingen, germany 25k, 4th August. 1 out of MD.

Jelena, what are you doing, commit to some events in us :mad:
Are they on clay as well?

Wojtek
Jul 20th, 2008, 04:42 PM
yes it's clay

King Aaron
Jul 20th, 2008, 05:28 PM
yes it's clay
Ugh. :mad:

Ballbasher
Jul 22nd, 2008, 10:11 AM
Anyone knows for sure she'll commit to Bronx? :)

cn ireland
Jul 22nd, 2008, 04:52 PM
Anyone knows for sure she'll commit to Bronx? :)


Well she's not on the entry list so I guess thats a no:fiery:

Instead she's entered into a 50K on clay in Russia Priority 1, not exactly ideal preparation for USO qualies on hard courts the following week :rolleyes:.

But I suppose on the bright side at least she's moving up a level:).

Just Do It
Jul 22nd, 2008, 06:18 PM
^ Entry list for Palic 50k Serbia on clay starting the same week as Bronx and Penza ( Russia ) is not out yet, maybe she will play in Serbia ? :scared:

I just checked ITF site and it says entry list for Bronx is not out as well :shrug:

Just Do It
Jul 22nd, 2008, 06:26 PM
^ Just checked, Jelena did not enter Bronx, nor Palic. I cant believe she decided to play in Russia instead of Serbia :( I would see her :(

Babolatpro880
Jul 22nd, 2008, 06:34 PM
If she's playing in Russia, I doubt she's playing in the US Open.

Havok
Jul 22nd, 2008, 07:20 PM
It seems as though Dokic has a phase of countries. When she started off it was everything in Australia, then everything in Italy. Now she seems to love Germany.:p:rolls:

gojelena!
Jul 22nd, 2008, 10:55 PM
It seems as though Dokic has a phase of countries. When she started off it was everything in Australia, then everything in Italy. Now she seems to love Germany.:p:rolls:

I'd wish she would get one of those for the USA so she would play the USO!!!

Slutati
Jul 22nd, 2008, 10:57 PM
I'm not complaining at least she's playing this time :banana:

Dokic Pierce
Jul 22nd, 2008, 11:15 PM
It seems as though Dokic has a phase of countries. When she started off it was everything in Australia, then everything in Italy. Now she seems to love Germany.:p:rolls:

I'd say she is doing this for money reasons - remember she has no financial backing from TA or a sponsor, and competing at ITF's in the same area for a period of time is the best (and cheapest) way of getting the results she needs.

I think she's being very smart and doing a good job. Come Aus Open 2009, she will be primed to perform with a good 12 months of work behind her!

:bounce:

Mr.Kardashian
Jul 23rd, 2008, 11:09 AM
well said dokicpierce :)

Darop.
Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:54 PM
I suggest we all stop complaining and just be happy she's playing and not buying paprika and tomatoes dressed in rags in some belgrade square.

She knows what she's doing, she doesn't need our suggestions, when she feels she's ready to go back to WTA she will ;)

Havok
Jul 23rd, 2008, 06:08 PM
I honestly don't care that she isn't playing the USO qualies. As long as she plays that's alright with me. The only beef I have is that she's still signing up for 25K events when its clear that she needs to step up to the 50Ks at least.

cn ireland
Jul 23rd, 2008, 07:35 PM
Don't give up on Jelena playing USO qualies yet, she's still on the entry list;)!!

Uranium
Jul 23rd, 2008, 07:51 PM
exactly she could have entered the Russian tourny thinking she wouldn't be in the USO, but now that she most likely will, I hope she withdraws from the 50K

cas-per
Jul 24th, 2008, 01:23 AM
Maybe she will play tournaments in Asia after us open,probably her ranking will be enough for smaller wta events.

DokDi
Jul 24th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Jelena's withdrawn from Bad Saulgau!!:confused:
I hope she's not injured!:help:

http://www.itftennis.com/womens/tournaments/tournamentacceptancelist.asp?tournament=1100017964&event=&order=Position

Just Do It
Jul 24th, 2008, 04:06 PM
^ That is a good sign, she must be going to US :banana:

King Aaron
Jul 24th, 2008, 04:24 PM
^ That is a good sign, she must be going to US :banana:
:unsure:

She better. :o

Just Do It
Jul 24th, 2008, 04:30 PM
^ Well, that would be the only logical explanation :shrug: But from the other hand, she did not enter a single tournament in US :confused: Maybe she asked for a Wild Card ?