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Henpova
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:13 AM
What is the hardest slam to win?

Australian Open- It's changing this year and since we are not sure how much it going to change, lets talk about Rebound Ace. It slow hard court that take spin very well. It is the first Slam of the year and most player have not had that much match play.

French Open-The French has a long season leading up to it, so most player already adjusted to the play style. The points a much longer, so you have to be very fit. Foot work is very important on clay.

Wimbledon- There is only about three grass tournaments leading up to the event. Most player are still getting used to the court, at the start of the event. This is one of the fastest courts. All around game is very important on this court.

US Open-The last Slam of the year. Played one Americana Concrete, very hard on the joints. . Music is played during the change over and it has some of the loudest fans. Last it has a good hard court season leading up to it so most player are ready to play well.


I think the French and Wimbledon are the hardest. Since I was unable to pick one you can vote for two.

DimaDinosaur
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:38 AM
Definitely the French. You have to be really clever in order to win it.

Boreas
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:48 AM
:rolleyes: You cannot say that one GS is harder to win than other. It depends on draw, opponents form, players own form.....

LudwigDvorak
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:52 AM
Wimbledon, I'd say. On the women's side since 1990, look at the Wimbledon champions.

Steffi Graf - 5
Venus Williams - 4
Serena Williams - 2
Martina Navratilova, Conchita Martinez, Amelie Mauresmo, Maria Sharapova, Jana Novotna, Lindsay Davenport, Martina Hingis - 1

I didn't even count the two previous Wimbledon slams to 1990, both of which Graf won. Seven slams NOT won by a sister or Graf out of 18. It's even more lopsided on the men's side (Sampras - 7; Federer - 5; Edberg, Stich, Agassi, Krajicek, Ivanisevic, Hewitt - 1).

You pretty much have to be the best to win Wimbledon--the only "surprise" Wimbledon champion since 1990 is Conchita, and even then, you just thought she'd get the French Open first, she had game on grass.

But all of the slams are very difficult to win, that is where I find them equal, even if not in prestige. Props to all slam champions.

Mikey.
Nov 27th, 2007, 09:00 AM
I'd say the FO because you have to be extremely fit to last out the really long rallys which occur on clay.

But Wimbledon wouldn't be too far behind because it is uniquely fast and it takes a while to adjust to without much match practise. The extremely low bounces also take a toll on the knees and backs of players.

domon17th
Nov 27th, 2007, 09:26 AM
I say the French. Red clay isn't that easy a surface to play on. Have to be really fit or really clever. Rallies last longer and somehow endurance is a big factor. Add to that a Justine Henin and it's pretty much very hard to win the French.

esquímaux
Nov 27th, 2007, 10:43 AM
Roland Garros most def. It's when all the weak @$$ Spanish mamas come out to play :drool:.....with their sexy moonballin' :hearts::droolish:

Demska
Nov 27th, 2007, 10:47 AM
FO. Longer rallies, the french crowd.

Demska
Nov 27th, 2007, 10:48 AM
Roland Garros most def. It's when all the weak @$$ Spanish mamas come out to play :drool:.....with their sexy moonballin' :hearts::droolish:

Israelis. :p

Mattographer
Nov 27th, 2007, 10:50 AM
The French, without a question. Clay is the most demand of all surfaces for fitness.

darice
Nov 27th, 2007, 10:56 AM
wimby cause there aren't many tourneys on grass and the same ppl usually win it so it's totally like an exclusive club. look here going back 20 yrs:

1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Navr%C3%A1tilov%C3%A1)[/URL]Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)7-5, 6-31988 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)5-7, 6-2, 6-11989 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)6-2, 6-7, 6-11990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Navr%C3%A1tilov%C3%A1)Zina Garrison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)6-4, 6-11991 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Gabriela Sabatini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Argentina.svg)6-4, 3-6, 8-61992 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Monica Seles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_FR_Yugoslavia.svg)6-2, 6-11993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Jana Novotná (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg)7-6, 1-6, 6-41994 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg)Conchita Martínez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Mart%C3%ADnez)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)6-4, 3-6, 6-31995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Arantxa Sánchez Vicario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg)4-6, 6-1, 7-51996 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Arantxa Sánchez Vicario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg)6-3, 7-51997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Switzerland.svg)Martina Hingis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Hingis)Jana Novotná (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg)2-6, 6-3, 6-31998 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg)Jana Novotná (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jana_Novotn%C3%A1)Nathalie Tauziat 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(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_France.svg)Amélie Mauresmo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9lie_Mauresmo)Justine Henin-Hardenne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg)2-6, 6-3, 6-42007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Venus Williams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Williams)[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Bartoli"]Marion Bartoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_France.svg)6-4, 6-1

Renalicious
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:01 AM
I dont think there is a particular slam that is harder than any others, I think that winning the FO and Wimby back to back is the most difficult than any other 2-consecutive slam combinations (AO-FO, Wimy-USO).

LudwigDvorak
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:06 AM
wimby cause there aren't many tourneys on grass and the same ppl usually win it so it's totally like an exclusive club. look here going back 20 yrs:

1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Navr%C3%A1tilov%C3%A1)[/URL]Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)7-5, 6-31988 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)5-7, 6-2, 6-11989 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)6-2, 6-7, 6-11990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Navr%C3%A1tilov%C3%A1)Zina Garrison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)6-4, 6-11991 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Gabriela Sabatini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Argentina.svg)6-4, 3-6, 8-61992 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Monica Seles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_FR_Yugoslavia.svg)6-2, 6-11993 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Jana Novotná (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg)7-6, 1-6, 6-41994 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg)Conchita Martínez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Mart%C3%ADnez)Martina Navrátilová (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)6-4, 3-6, 6-31995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Arantxa Sánchez Vicario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg)4-6, 6-1, 7-51996 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steffi_Graf)Arantxa Sánchez Vicario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Spain.svg)6-3, 7-51997 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Switzerland.svg)Martina Hingis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_Hingis)Jana Novotná (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg)2-6, 6-3, 6-31998 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg)Jana Novotná (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jana_Novotn%C3%A1)Nathalie Tauziat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_France.svg)6-4, 7-6(2)1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Lindsay Davenport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsay_Davenport)Steffi Graf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg)6-4, 7-52000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Venus Williams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Williams)Lindsay Davenport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)6-3, 7-6(3)2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Venus Williams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Williams)Justine Henin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg)6-1, 3-6, 6-02002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Serena Williams 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(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_France.svg)Amélie Mauresmo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%A9lie_Mauresmo)Justine Henin-Hardenne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg)2-6, 6-3, 6-42007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg)Venus Williams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Williams)[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Bartoli"]Marion Bartoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_France.svg)6-4, 6-1

wow thx I had no idear!

Mattographer
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:09 AM
If you ever played on clay and you will know the French is the hardest Slam to win. I have and played on it heap times. Matter of fact, I playing competition and they have clay courts like the French not fake ones.

esquímaux
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:09 AM
Israelis. :pMyskinas :rolls:

darice
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:11 AM
wow thx I had no idear!

in 20 yrs only 10 diff players have won wimby. and in the same 20 yrs only 11 players have been the runner-up. that's how exclusive it is. :)

friendsita
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:11 AM
Wimbledon

Sassy-Na
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:11 AM
USO because it is hard surface.

Vivi&Paola4_ever
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:12 AM
French Open, definately. Those rallies and that crowd :tape:

skanky~skanketta
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:12 AM
I think that a lot of people are not giving the Australian Open enough credit for being hard to win! Unless you're Australian or been in Australia during the summer, you have no idea. Battling the conditions makes the AO just as hard to win as the French. The lack of humidity at times makes you feel like your skin is singeing off...sort of like the pain you feel a day after a sunburn.

chris whiteside
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:16 AM
I dont think there is a particular slam that is harder than any others, I think that winning the FO and Wimby back to back is the most difficult than any other 2-consecutive slam combinations (AO-FO, Wimy-USO).

Spot on. To win RG and Wimby back to back is without question the hardest combination although the slowing down of the grass has definitely made it easier, but each Slam has 127 other world class competitors vying for the title and ultimately is equally difficult to win.

evan2907
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:20 AM
If you're not Justine, the French Open, because you have to beat her to win. :D

For the OA, you have to deal with the heat.
For the USO, you have to deal with a heavy atmosphere, all the off-court stuffs.

Uranium
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:26 AM
AO because you go from not playing to immmediately playing a slam then French.

Demska
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:32 AM
Myskinas :rolls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQMZro1cBv4

Far from moonballing..:scratch:

Paul.be
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:40 AM
Each slam has its unique conditions. For example:
AO: heat, draught
FO: clay, endurance
W: grass, rain delays
USO: distraction, moisture
Each player copes better or worse with some of these conditions. Therefore the hardest slam to win is different for each player.

Andy T
Nov 27th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Depends on the player - ask Justine or Venus which is the hardest and you wouldn't get the same answer.

*W*
Nov 27th, 2007, 12:33 PM
Wimbledon off course!

CORIA01
Nov 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM
the french open cos you have to be patient and 100% fit

Henpova
Nov 27th, 2007, 02:18 PM
I have to say I am a little shocked. I thought most would say Wimbledon.

Michael!
Nov 27th, 2007, 03:05 PM
French Open, long rallies, long games and the slowest surface. :)

égalité
Nov 27th, 2007, 03:52 PM
As far as I know they all have only one winner :scratch:

Wimbledon is harder to win for moonballers, RG is harder to win for serve-and-volleyers. It depends on the player.

LindsayRulz
Nov 27th, 2007, 03:54 PM
The French Open.

RenaSlam.
Nov 27th, 2007, 05:52 PM
The French Open and Wimbledon, for sure.

Expat
Nov 27th, 2007, 07:07 PM
french open

Mic-190286
Nov 27th, 2007, 07:23 PM
The courts at RG are most likely the hardest, if you're not a 'clay-courter' it must be extremely difficult.
Wimbledon's prestige however, and the fact that it is probably the most coveted title makes it perhaps more difficult. Everyone is at their most motivated and the pressure is extremely high.
Regardless, the fact that either RG or Wimbly has eluded many multiple-slam winners (eg. Hingis, Henin, Federer) show IMO that they must be the most difficult.

Not to take anything away from the other 2...

saniapower
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:12 PM
not a single one easy to win

die_wahrheit
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:14 PM
Wimbledon of course,
because there are 4 Grand Slam tournaments, but only one is most important.
That means a 1:3 chance to win the special thing.

saniapower
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:15 PM
each one is equally tough to win
whoever wins must understand that

SV_Fan
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:16 PM
Well it depends. It depends on playing stylts, your shape and fevorite and other things. Like Justine she excellent on clay, but can't really shift the momentum to the grass courts. Wimbledon is Venus' turf but she cant get much mometum on clay. Also more things.

Paul.be
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:19 PM
Wimbledon of course,
because there are 4 Grand Slam tournaments, but only one is most important.
That means a 1:3 chance to win the special thing.

How the hell did you calculate that? :help:

The chance to win one of the slams is 1/4 or 25%.

Harvs
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:21 PM
Well theyre all the same cause theres always one winner.

However, Roland Garros is by far the most physically demanding.

bandabou
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:21 PM
For the semi-greats: Wimbledon might prove to be the most troublesome.

Harvs
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:21 PM
How the hell did you calculate that? :help:

The chance to win one of the slams is 1/4 or 25%.

lol i think they meant by ratios:)

Paul.be
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:30 PM
...;12045121']lol i think they meant by ratios:)

Possible. But then you call it the ratio and not the chance.
(Sorry, it's a professional reaction of me.)

BuTtErFrEnA
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:31 PM
wimby...not enough time to warm up so you're either good on the stuff or you aren't, add to that the prestige (yes there is a difference e.g look at the press Marion got after her Wimby final as opposed to her being the last Frenchwoman left in the FO which should be big thing since we have seen how hard it is for the French to do well at home)...FO is hard but you're chances are better because of the long clay season which allows you to adapt if you play a proper schedule

Harvs
Nov 27th, 2007, 08:36 PM
Possible. But then you call it the ratio and not the chance.
(Sorry, it's a professional reaction of me.)

yeah i no:)... but yeah, they would have meant it tho:) ahaha

RJWCapriati
Nov 27th, 2007, 10:33 PM
French Open

fufuqifuqishahah
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:18 PM
French is the easiest and the hardest to win.

Paul.be
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:26 PM
French is the easiest and the hardest to win.

Can you explain that?

supergrunt
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:28 PM
probably the USO

supergrunt
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:28 PM
or Wimbledon

kiwifan
Nov 28th, 2007, 12:18 AM
Its easier to hit the ball on clay than on any other surface.

Hardest surface to play on is grass.

Rollo
Nov 28th, 2007, 12:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fufuqifuqishahah http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/wtaworld/images/buttons/blue/viewpost.gif (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=12045799#post12045799)
French is the easiest and the hardest to win.


Perfect put! It all depends on the type of game you have. Being neutral surfaces, the potential winners at the Aussie and US Opens is wide.

But for the French you can count out (or radically reduce) the chances for players like Davenport, Venus and Serena Williams, and Sharapova.

All of these players have Wimbledons titles though, which makes the grass easier for them.

And just as the clay is "easier" for Henin,Capriati, and Monica Seles-their chances are much less on grass.

Certain players CAN overcome a surface disadvantage (Serena won Paris once, for example), but it's obviously there.

The "easier/hardest" quote hits at the heart of what will surely be two of tennis' biggest stories of 2008:

Can Fedrerer win the French?

Can Justine win Wimbledon?

ZeroSOFInfinity
Nov 28th, 2007, 01:35 AM
There's no "hardest" Slam to win. Each Slam tournament has its challenges which the players have to face.

Australian Open - The heat and humidity
French Open - The clay surface itself.
Wimbledon Open - Delays due to the weather.
US Open - The lights, glitz and glamour.

Only when a player manages to overcome these obstacles and defeat her opponent at the same time, then she'll win it.

Sir Stefwhit
Nov 28th, 2007, 01:55 AM
I'm sure one of our stat gurus can tell us which slam has had the least amount of winners looking at the last 50 years. I know the popular answer is the French, but I think it's probably Wimbledon. Definitely between those two. I'd say if you can with the others then they're is no reason why you couldn't win the Australian.

AcesHigh
Nov 28th, 2007, 03:18 AM
Wimbledon is the hardest
-the sudden change from clay to grass in a matter of weeks
-not enough warmup tournaments
-You have to go against the best champions on their best surface
-You need a certain set of skills to succeed on grass(contrary to those who say ballbashers can thrive here) including good reaction time, hand-eye coordination, movement, footwork, etc.


At Roland Garros, it's much easier to get "lucky", for the best players to be upset in some freak loss, and although the surface can be physically demanding, clay can actually be easier on the body and knees than the concrete of USO courts.

Clay allows more reaction time and if moonballers and counterpunchers can suceed there, I'm not sure about all this skill it requires so many people speak of.

That being said, all the slams are very hard and require different skills. There is a reason they are the four biggest tournaments in the tennis world.

mm1147
Nov 28th, 2007, 03:40 AM
well claycourt specialist will say wimbledon hardcourt and grasscourt specialist will say french open so it depends

LucasArg
Nov 28th, 2007, 04:15 AM
Wimbledon, no doubts.

OsloErik
Nov 28th, 2007, 10:01 AM
They all are hard in their own way.

The Australian comes so early in the season that, if you're the kind of player that needs some time to pull it together (Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Venus, a few others) you're not likely to do as well. It's players for who fitness is never an issue (Mauresmo usually does well there, Serena can play in spite of fitness, Hingis never really was unfit) who make an impact there.

The French is on clay, and not a lot of women can play significantly well on clay (good topspin doesn't exist outside of about 5 or 6 girls) and the footwork dooms about half the top ten right away. The rallies are longer, so if you have any holes in your game, they get exposed, even if you've done well on clay (Venus's forehand, Mauresmo's...lots of things..., Sharapova's footwork, etc.).

Wimbledon has virtually no effective way to warm up (practicing on grass is stupid, it doesn't give you any rhythm, inconsistent bounces don't really help your game) and the surface changes significantly as the fortnight progresses. It's a tournament that you can lose early, lose in the middle, or lose late. It's hard to be the best at three separate surfaces, and you have to do that to win Wimbledon.

The US comes late in the year, the atmosphere is a little unforgiving, and the surfaces can brutalize your body. The night matches seem a lot more taxing than at Melbourne, too. I think mentally, the US is the greatest achievement. You either have no pressure (Kuznetsova, Serena in 1999) or you're clearly the most in-form and have no worries (Henin '03 and '07, Sharapova, Hingis).

So it's hard to say. But my gut tells me the French.

Onyxangel
Nov 28th, 2007, 10:15 AM
The French Open essentially neutralizes the big serve as a real weapon and forces people to construct points and out think their opponent... considering how many players today depend on power, I'd have to say this one is the hardest for the majority of players.

OsloErik
Nov 28th, 2007, 10:23 AM
I'd point to the number of one slam wonders as another good indication. If we start in, say, 1977 (30 years ago) and count the one slam winners of each event, I think we'll get a few interesting numbers.

Australian: (3) Kerry Reid, Chris O'Neil*, Barbara Jordan*
French: (4) Mima Jausevic, Anastasia Myskina, Iva Majoli, Virginia Ruzici
Wimbledon: (2) Conchita Martinez, Jana Novotna
US Open: (3) Gabriela Sabatini, Svetlana Kuznetsova, Kim Clijsters

*easily the two flukiest slam wins in history, male or female

It's worth pointing out that all the US Open and Wimbledon one-slam wonders have reached #3 or higher at some point, and all reached at least two other slam finals. Sabatini and Clijsters are still the biggest underachievers of one-slam wonders, and Kuznetsova is still active. Novotna and Martinez were among the dwarfiest members of the illustrious Steffi and the Seven Dwarves of the mid-90's (Steffi, ASV, Sabatini, Pierce, Martinez, Novotna, MJF, and Sukova).

So the French seems like the one it's easiest to get hot and win at first sight, but the conditions under which each of them won are pretty interesting. Majoli benefited from Hingis not playing the clay season other than the French, Graf being hobbled in the quarterfinals, and Pierce being too lowly ranked to escape a brutal draw. Myskina benefited from Henin being at the start of The Virus '04, the Williams still being flaky, Mauresmo crapping out in Paris, and nobody else really being there to challenge her. Jausovic and Ruzici both won when few elite players competed in Paris (they were seeds #1 and #2 when they won, respectively). They never really did a whole lot outside Paris and Australia.

Nowadays, I'd say the French is still hard to win because you have to be fit. Myskina and Majoli both won it by being very, very fit at the time of the event, especially compared with everyone else in the field.

KennyChante4ever
Nov 28th, 2007, 10:30 AM
I chose Wimbledon because it's the surface that the majority of the players have the most difficulty on. Players have complained about grass and some have even skipped Wimbledon for that very reason. You don't hear them complain as much about hard, indoor and clay courts nor do they skip events because of it.

BuTtErFrEnA
Nov 28th, 2007, 10:54 AM
Wimbledon is the hardest
-the sudden change from clay to grass in a matter of weeks
-not enough warmup tournaments
-You have to go against the best champions on their best surface
-You need a certain set of skills to succeed on grass(contrary to those who say ballbashers can thrive here) including good reaction time, hand-eye coordination, movement, footwork, etc.


At Roland Garros, it's much easier to get "lucky", for the best players to be upset in some freak loss, and although the surface can be physically demanding, clay can actually be easier on the body and knees than the concrete of USO courts.

Clay allows more reaction time and if moonballers and counterpunchers can suceed there, I'm not sure about all this skill it requires so many people speak of.

That being said, all the slams are very hard and require different skills. There is a reason they are the four biggest tournaments in the tennis world.

:worship:

plantman
Nov 28th, 2007, 03:42 PM
Here's another poll from S.I

Which Grand Slam event is the hardest to win?


Australian Open 4% 45 votes

French Open 55% 690 votes

U.S. Open 10% 128 votes

Wimbledon 31% 395 votes
Total: 1258 votes
This poll is not scientific and reflects the opinions of only those Internet users who have chosen to participate. The results cannot be assumed to represent the opinions of Internet users in general nor the public as a whole.

AnnaK_4ever
Nov 28th, 2007, 04:29 PM
Myskina and Majoli both won it by being very, very fit at the time of the event, especially compared with everyone else in the field.

Myskina missed almost 2 months with foot injury before clay court season and struggled at warm-up events in Berlin and Rome. Moreover, she received treatment on her injury in early rounds matches in Paris.
As for Majoli, she won the title by going for her shots and overpowering Hingis in the final. Martina simply had no answers to Iva's game on that day.

AnnaK_4ever
Nov 28th, 2007, 04:32 PM
Clay allows more reaction time and if moonballers and counterpunchers can suceed there, I'm not sure about all this skill it requires so many people speak of.

Luckily for her Conchita Martinez didn't know all this.

fufuqifuqishahah
Nov 28th, 2007, 05:25 PM
USO because it is hard surface.

i get it! :yeah: :p

fufuqifuqishahah
Nov 28th, 2007, 05:31 PM
Can you explain that?

Rollo does below

Perfect put! It all depends on the type of game you have. Being neutral surfaces, the potential winners at the Aussie and US Opens is wide.

But for the French you can count out (or radically reduce) the chances for players like Davenport, Venus and Serena Williams, and Sharapova.

All of these players have Wimbledons titles though, which makes the grass easier for them.

And just as the clay is "easier" for Henin,Capriati, and Monica Seles-their chances are much less on grass.

Certain players CAN overcome a surface disadvantage (Serena won Paris once, for example), but it's obviously there.

The "easier/hardest" quote hits at the heart of what will surely be two of tennis' biggest stories of 2008:

Can Fedrerer win the French?

Can Justine win Wimbledon?


As they are the more extreme surfaces, Roland Garros and Wimbledon are both the hardest and easiest to win, but I think French Open is an even more extreme version of being the hardest and easiest to win. A lot of greats have not won the French Open (making it seem really difficult to win), but a lot of relative non-legends have won the French Open (making it seem really easy to win). With Wimbledon, while only a select few relative non-legends have won it, many qualifiers and low ranked players have gotten rather far in the tournament.

athake
Nov 28th, 2007, 05:42 PM
-You have to go against the best champions on their best surface

So this makes RG's the hardest too, make a more valid list next time by just refering the surface :)

stickwitju(ju)
Nov 28th, 2007, 09:02 PM
Roland Garros AKA The Great Equaliser.

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