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AnnaK_4ever
Nov 16th, 2007, 12:27 PM
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Renalicious
Nov 16th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Thanks...2002?

Cp6uja
Nov 16th, 2007, 01:44 PM
Thanks... very useful stats

Hashim.
Nov 16th, 2007, 01:47 PM
thanks:)

shap_half
Nov 16th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Justine's had the #1 #2 or #3 W-L record each of those years. Yay!!!!

Dexter
Nov 16th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Great job, Statsman. :yeah:

Juju4ever
Nov 16th, 2007, 02:20 PM
Thanks! :)

Wow, Justine! 26 semis in 27 tournaments, over the last couple of years. :worship:

dybbuk
Nov 16th, 2007, 02:22 PM
Ana finishes the year with a better record against the top 10 than any of the other players to finish No.4 in the past years. :D

Cp6uja
Nov 16th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Ana finishes the year with a better record against the top 10 than any of the other players to finish No.4 in the past years. :DActualy she have more TOP10 wins than any player in 2004 or 2005 season and have better W/L ratio (against TOP10) this season than any WTA#1 in previous 4 years (between 2003-2006)!!!

At other hand Svetlana Kuznetsova and Jelena Jankovic from this season is only TOP3 players which have negative TOP10 record in last 5 years and also Sveta and Jelena from 2007 have worse W/L record ratio at "tier-II and above" tournaments than any TOP5 girl in last 5 years - and Ana have better F-SF GS success this season, reach more "tier-II and above" titles and lead in H2H 6-0 (3-0 and 3-0) against Jelena and Sveta this season. That all is strong proofs that actualy Ana deserve #2 place this season at end more than Sveta or Jelena. IMO.

esquímaux
Nov 16th, 2007, 07:22 PM
Rubin :sad:

AnnaK_4ever
Nov 16th, 2007, 07:47 PM
Actualy she have more TOP10 wins than any player in 2004 or 2005 season and have better W/L ratio (against TOP10) this season than any WTA#1 in previous 4 years (between 2003-2006)!!!

At other hand Svetlana Kuznetsova and Jelena Jankovic from this season is only TOP3 players which have negative TOP10 record in last 5 years and also Sveta and Jelena from 2007 have worse W/L record ratio at "tier-II and above" tournaments than any TOP5 girl in last 5 years - and Ana have better F-SF GS success this season, reach more "tier-II and above" titles and lead in H2H 6-0 (3-0 and 3-0) against Jelena and Sveta this season. That all is strong proofs that actualy Ana deserve #2 place this season at end more than Sveta or Jelena. IMO.

However Ana failed to reach QFs at 8 out of 18 Tier II+ tournaments played and lost all her matches against 2007 Grand Slam champions (without winning even a set). In fact, #2-4 players all have miserable records in comparison with players of this range from recent years. So if anyone "deserves" #2 rank this year it has to be Serena.

Cp6uja
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:08 PM
However Ana failed to reach QFs at 8 out of 18 Tier II+ tournaments played and lost all her matches against 2007 Grand Slam champions (without winning even a set). In fact, #2-4 players all have miserable records in comparison with players of this range from recent years. So if anyone "deserves" #2 rank this year it has to be Serena.In this yours research you have 8 columns and results for each column is:

Official GRAND TOP10 W/L TOP10 W/L
WTA rank SLAMS Year End Actualy

1. Justine 1. Justine 1. Justine 1. Justine
2. Sveta 2. Venus 2. Ana 2. Ana
3. Jelena 3. Serena 3. Serena 2. Maria
4. Ana 4. Ana 4. Venus 4. Serena
5. Maria 4. Maria 5. Maria 5. Venus
6. Anna 6. Sveta 6. Marion 6. Sveta
7. Serena 7. Marion 7. Anna 7. Anna
8. Venus 8. Jelena 8. Daniela 8. Daniela
9. Daniela 9. Anna 8. Sveta 9. Jelena
10. Marion 10. Daniela 10. Jelena 10. Marion




ALL WTA W/L ratio Tier-II & above W/L ratio
Tournaments ALL-WTA tournaments tier-II & above

1. Justine 1. Justine 1. Justine 1. Justine
2. Jelena 2. Venus 2. Ana 2. Venus
3. Anna 3. Maria 3. Jelena 3. Maria
4. Ana 4. Serena 4. Daniela 4. Serena
5. Venus 5. Anna 5. Serena 5. Ana
6. Daniela 6. Jelena 6. Sveta 6. Jelena
7. Serena 7. Ana 7. Maria 7. Sveta
8. Sveta 8. Sveta 8. Anna 8. Anna
9. Maria 9. Daniela 9. Venus 9. Daniela
10. Marion 10. Marion 10. Marion 10. Marion



^ ^ ^


Average place for each player is:


1. (1.00) - Justine Henin :help:
2. (3.75) - Ana Ivanovic
3. (4.63) - Venus Williams
3. (4.63) - Serena Williams
5. (4.75) - Maria Sharapova
6. (5.88) - Jelena Jankovic
7. (6.38) - Svetlana Kuznetsova
8. (6.63) - Anna Chakvetadze
9. (7.88) - Daniela Hantuchova
10 (9.13) - Marion Bartoli


Ana is again #2!!!

Yes... Ana reach only 9 QF of 18 "tier-II and above" tournaments which she played this season - but she won 7 of that 9 QF's!
Serena reach 8 QF of 11 "tier-II and above" tournaments which she played this season - but she won only 3 of that 8 QF's. So that is not argument that Serena deserve better ranking because Ana reach 8 Semifinals of 18 tierII+ tournaments and Serena only 3 of 11. Serena have better season because won slam - but Ana deserve better year end rank.

Dave.
Nov 16th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Lindsay number 1 in 2004 and 2005:worship:

The 2003 list has Capriati, Rubin and Sugiyama in it! Can't imagine that today....I wish Jennifer would make a comeback:sad:

In The Zone
Nov 16th, 2007, 11:23 PM
However Ana failed to reach QFs at 8 out of 18 Tier II+ tournaments played and lost all her matches against 2007 Grand Slam champions (without winning even a set). In fact, #2-4 players all have miserable records in comparison with players of this range from recent years. So if anyone "deserves" #2 rank this year it has to be Serena.

Exactly. A+ for pointing this out. The 5-8 range [ minus # 6 ] should switch with 2, 3, 4. But since they would play in the QF anyway, the rankings don't hurt anyone. ;) As long as Maria, Venus, and Serena continue to show it on the court, that's all we can ask for.

Derek.
Nov 17th, 2007, 02:27 AM
In this yours research you have 8 columns and results for each column is:

Official GRAND TOP10 W/L TOP10 W/L
WTA rank SLAMS Year End Actualy

1. Justine 1. Justine 1. Justine 1. Justine
2. Sveta 2. Venus 2. Ana 2. Ana
3. Jelena 3. Serena 3. Serena 2. Maria
4. Ana 4. Ana 4. Venus 4. Serena
5. Maria 4. Maria 5. Maria 5. Venus
6. Anna 6. Sveta 6. Marion 6. Sveta
7. Serena 7. Marion 7. Anna 7. Anna
8. Venus 8. Jelena 8. Daniela 8. Daniela
9. Daniela 9. Anna 8. Sveta 9. Jelena
10. Marion 10. Daniela 10. Jelena 10. Marion




ALL WTA W/L ratio Tier-II & above W/L ratio
Tournaments ALL-WTA tournaments tier-II & above

1. Justine 1. Justine 1. Justine 1. Justine
2. Jelena 2. Venus 2. Ana 2. Venus
3. Anna 3. Maria 3. Jelena 3. Maria
4. Ana 4. Serena 4. Daniela 4. Serena
5. Venus 5. Anna 5. Serena 5. Ana
6. Daniela 6. Jelena 6. Sveta 6. Jelena
7. Serena 7. Ana 7. Maria 7. Sveta
8. Sveta 8. Sveta 8. Anna 8. Anna
9. Maria 9. Daniela 9. Venus 9. Daniela
10. Marion 10. Marion 10. Marion 10. Marion



^ ^ ^


Average place for each player is:


1. (1.00) - Justine Henin :help:
2. (3.75) - Ana Ivanovic
3. (4.63) - Venus Williams
3. (4.63) - Serena Williams
5. (4.75) - Maria Sharapova
6. (5.88) - Jelena Jankovic
7. (6.38) - Svetlana Kuznetsova
8. (6.63) - Anna Chakvetadze
9. (7.88) - Daniela Hantuchova
10 (9.13) - Marion Bartoli


Ana is again #2!!!

Yes... Ana reach only 9 QF of 18 "tier-II and above" tournaments which she played this season - but she won 7 of that 9 QF's!
Serena reach 8 QF of 11 "tier-II and above" tournaments which she played this season - but she won only 3 of that 8 QF's. So that is not argument that Serena deserve better ranking because Ana reach 8 Semifinals of 18 tierII+ tournaments and Serena only 3 of 11. Serena have better season because won slam - but Ana deserve better year end rank.

:zzz:

Cp6uja
Nov 17th, 2007, 04:05 AM
9. (7.88) - Daniela Hantuchova
:zzz:It's not my fault :D

The Crow
Nov 17th, 2007, 08:23 AM
Chanda :sad:

AnnaK_4ever
Nov 17th, 2007, 11:20 AM
Yes... Ana reach only 9 QF of 18 "tier-II and above" tournaments which she played this season - but she won 7 of that 9 QF's!
Serena reach 8 QF of 11 "tier-II and above" tournaments which she played this season - but she won only 3 of that 8 QF's. So that is not argument that Serena deserve better ranking because Ana reach 8 Semifinals of 18 tierII+ tournaments and Serena only 3 of 11. Serena have better season because won slam - but Ana deserve better year end rank.

And I don't deny the current ranking system. I'm only talking about who has had a better year in my opinion - 1. Henin, 2. Serena, 3. Venus, 4. Ivanovic, 5. Sharapova, 6. Jankovic/Kuznetsova, 8. Chakvetadze.

Cp6uja
Nov 17th, 2007, 03:54 PM
And I don't deny the current ranking system. I'm only talking about who has had a better year in my opinion - 1. Henin, 2. Serena, 3. Venus, 4. Ivanovic, 5. Sharapova, 6. Jankovic/Kuznetsova, 8. Chakvetadze.My oppinion:

BETTER YEAR FOR CAREER:

1. Henin
2. Venus
3. Serena
4. Ivanovic
5. Kuznetsova
6. Jankovic
7. Sharapova
8. Bartoli
9. Hantukova
10. Chakvetadze



DESERVED 2007 FINAL RANK:

1. Henin
2. Ivanovic
3. Venus
4. Serena
5. Kuznetsova
6. Jankovic
7. Sarapova
8. Chakvetadze
9. Hantukova
10. Bartoli


IMO

justine schnyder
Nov 17th, 2007, 04:08 PM
Thanks

AnnaK_4ever
Nov 24th, 2007, 09:32 AM
Updated.
Now it shows year-end Top-10's numbers since 1997 - the first year of "post-Graf era".

eck
Nov 24th, 2007, 09:47 AM
Justine :yeah:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 24th, 2007, 12:34 PM
I just realise that every top 10 player in 2001 has at least 3 titles!:eek: :yeah: It must be a high quality year in tennis.;)