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Lunatiq
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:28 AM
Tenisowy świat jest w szoku! Martina Hingis (27 l.) wyznała, że podczas tegorocznego Wimbledonu wykryto w jej organizmie kokainę. Szwajcarka zaklina się jednak, że jest niewinna. Czyżby? – pisze Super Express.

- Starszym zawodnikom nie starcza sił, a że na koniec kariery chcą jeszcze coś ugrać, próbują różnych, niestety zazwyczaj nieczystych, zagrywek - komentuje w rozmowie z "Super Expressem" Robert Radwański, ojciec i trener najlepszej polskiej tenisistki, Agnieszki Radwańskiej.

- Takich przypadków w ostatnich latach było na pęczki, a prym wiedli Argentyńczycy, na czele z Puertą czy Canasem. O tenisie mówi się, że to sport dla dżentelmenów, ale i w tym środowisku są czarne owce. I nie jest to wcale małe stado - ocenia Radwański. W tłumaczenia Hingis opiekun Isi nie wierzy.

- W Miami Agnieszka w 3. secie prowadziła z Martiną 4:1 i wtedy Szwajcarka zeszła z kortu, a to jest zabronione! Jako oficjalny powód podano, że poszła zmienić strój, ale dla mnie to podejrzana sprawa. Jednak to tylko moje dywagacje - szczerze przyznaje Radwański, który nie ma również wątpliwości, że moment, w którym ogłoszono tę szokującą wiadomość, nie był przypadkowy.

- Chcą po prostu zneutralizować i zmniejszyć wydźwięk afery ustawianych meczów. Przecież Wimbledon był wieki temu i wyniki badań również były znane już kilka tygodni temu, jednak nad ATP zebrały się czarne chmury i teraz na wszelkie możliwe sposoby próbują to zamieść pod dywan - przyznaje Radwański.*

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* - In Miami Agnieszka led 4-1 in third set with Hingis and then she left the court and that's not allowed! Official reason - change of clothes, but for me - it was suspicious but these are just my thoughts...
He thinks that this case is a try to divert public's opinion from problems in men tennis (coruption)

He added that older sportsmen have not enough power, but they want to win something more to the end of career and they test (try) different, unfortunately, usually impure, things...



...a tak na marginesie to zobacz sobie panie radwański co oznacza słowo "dywagacja"...:tape: :help:

ViennaCalling
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:30 AM
Translation anyone?

denijs
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:34 AM
Robert :worship:
He doesn't bother if it's Hingis or someone else, he talks what he thinks :yeah:

Slumpsova
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:43 AM
for god's sake! she just went for changing clothes :rolleyes:.

Princeza
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:44 AM
Idiot

Lunatiq
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:47 AM
Robert :worship:
He doesn't bother if it's Hingis or someone else, he talks what he thinks :yeah:


but there is no need to say things like that when nothing is proved. That was coarse.

Max565
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:49 AM
She did seem sort of ill but does that directly link to cocaine use?

bie
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:50 AM
Men can change on the court... girls go to the bathroom. So what?
Some of the players take that bathroom break after a set is completed on a regular basis.
If that is suspicious they should change the rules.
I don't think it is.

http://users.pandora.be/bie/biehappie/Justine-bekers01.jpg

Lunatiq
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:52 AM
for god's sake! she just went for changing clothes :rolleyes:.


NOT FOR EVERYONE ... :help:

Lunatiq
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:53 AM
Idiot

I didn't want to use this word. Thank You so much...:worship:

Gosia_O
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:04 AM
Szczerze mowiac nie podoba mi sie ta wypowiedz ale trudno
to jego zdanie. Tylko chcialabym zauwazyc jeden fakt, ze nadal nie postawiono Hingis zadnych oficjalnych zarzutow narazie jest prowadzone tylko sledztwo w tej sprawie. A tak na marginesie to teoria pana Radwanskiego jakos kupy sie nie trzyma, bo z tego co wiem to na wszystkich imprezach sa robione badania antydopingowe i w Miami nic nie wykryto. Poza tym wychodzenie Martiny podczas meczu to raczej jej stala zagrywka i juz w historii swych startow korzystala z niej. Jak dla mnie ten artykul wpisuje sie w teorie spiskowej historii dziejow i mam nadzieje, ze sa to tylko zdania wyrwane z kontekstu, bo poki komus nie udowodni sie winy (a nie ma jeszcze nawet oficjalnych zarzutow) to ta osoba jest uznawana za niewinna.
Wlasciwie narazie te sytuacje mozna ewentualnie rozpatrywac jako jednorazowy wyskok niz jako stale uzaleznienie. Poza tym z tego co czytalam to kokaina raczej nie moze byc uznawana za substancje, ktora moglaby pomoc w sporcie. Wywoluje moze stan euforii ale jakos nie widze jakby to mialo pomoc Hingis w grze tym bardziej, ze przegrala w meczu przed ktorym (nadal) rzekomo zazyla kokaine.

Sorry that my comment is in Polish but this article is in Polish so I decided to comment it in Polish. Maybe later I will translate it, but generally I don't agree with Mr. Radwanski and I think that this is too soon for this kind of comments. We have to wait and see what will happen, because for me in this case there too many question marks.

Dexter
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:13 AM
:attentionwhore:

thrust
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:14 AM
Whatever, she should not have been allowed in the middle of a set especially the third set against a very young player. That is gamesmanship. Perhaps she needed a fix? Probably not, but players should not be allowed to stop a match for their advantage. Though I only know this situation through the translation, I think Mr R makes a valid point. Did Martina win that match?

bie
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:25 AM
My mistake, I reacted wrongly because I thought she took a break between sets.
If Martine felt sick and had to throw up... I'm glad she did't while on court.
If that wasn't the case then it isn't appropriate behaviour towards your opponent but it is always the empire who decides, so...

http://users.pandora.be/bie/biehappie/Justine-bekers01.jpg

go hingis
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:42 AM
If bathroom breaks at inappropriate times is now suspicious and linked to taking drugs should we point out the players that have gone crazy doing this over the years. I don't think Martina would be one.

FWTATOUR
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:45 AM
:attentionwhore:

totalny idiota

MistyGrey
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:47 AM
What a retard!
Just what the WTA needs, another idiotic father!

Wojtek
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:50 AM
Brała czy nie brała jak kokaina znazła się w jej organiźmie. Wilander i Novacek tez byli nie winni a brali to samo. To co powiedział o ATP to 100% prawda, poza tym Wimbledon był dawno a tu cisza, sama zawodniczka sobie takiej świni nie podłozyła, po prostu brała :lol:

Wojtek
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:52 AM
What a retard!
Just what the WTA needs, another idiotic father!

He said what he was thinking. He isn't crazy

@Sweet Cleopatra
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:54 AM
what a lame idiot ,

MistyGrey
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:55 AM
He said what he was thinking. He isn't crazy

Crazy/idiotic/stupid people also say what they think.... doesnt make them sane though!

thrust
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:55 AM
If bathroom breaks at inappropriate times is now suspicious and linked to taking drugs should we point out the players that have gone crazy doing this over the years. I don't think Martina would be one.

I agree, Sharapova often takes bathroom breaks at inappropriate times. Umpires are much too lenient with the top players.

DutchieGirl
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:56 AM
Whatever, she should not have been allowed in the middle of a set especially the third set against a very young player. That is gamesmanship. Perhaps she needed a fix? Probably not, but players should not be allowed to stop a match for their advantage. Though I only know this situation through the translation, I think Mr R makes a valid point. Did Martina win that match?

The umprie must have allowed it - therefore it is allowed. Maybe she asked to go to the toilet. :shrug: If the umpire didn't allow it and she just walked off the court, then she should have been disqualified. Gamesmanship? Yeah, most likely - allowed, well the ump must have said yes so :shrug:

schorsch
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:57 AM
What a moron really. I dont like the Radwanska family at all. I saw them numerous times in Zurich and they seemed weird. Plus Aga hat nothing else to do, but talking about other players behind their backs. Now I know where she gets it from.

Wojtek
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:00 AM
Crazy/idiotic/stupid people also say what they think.... doesnt make them sane though!
Someone has different opinion then you and he is stupid?

papru
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:01 AM
Whats the point in posting an interview from Polish newspaper...???? :rolleyes:
It's so obvious he can say that in general. It's not about Martina or anybody else or if he finds something suspicious - well, his right :o

Slutiana
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:05 AM
what a lame idiot ,

:worship:




The fact is she was positive for cocaine and he's trying to imply she could of taken some drug to improve her performance. Its stupid. :o Pathetic

alexia1huff
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:22 AM
I think he and Fibak talk too much about everything. They pretend to know everything and while it's ok to have an opinion it's not necessary to say what's on your mind (if i did that well i would be banned from here months ago). He is JUST a trainer and they always have interviews with him, his not radwanska's voice for gods sake! She is the one involved in the sport and unless media asks her there is completely no reason for him to talk about anything (yes he gave a lot to his daughters and thanks to him they are this good, but his opinions are completely unnecessary and it does seem like he is very attention seeking, because we have interviews with him like every 2 weeks, he could (HE SHOULD) just decline to give an ANSWER!)

MistyGrey
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:23 AM
Someone has different opinion then you and he is stupid?

No not really, but the guy is linking Hingis' bathroom break in March to her failed drug test in June! And even if he is not linking the two incidents, he is almost saying that since Hingis takes excessive bathroom breaks, she might have taken drugs as well!

And besides, if he is entitled to his opinion, so am I. I think he is stupid! :p

PLP
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:35 AM
1st of all, Martina was ill during that match and if I am not mistaken, that was the tournament when Martina initially felt her injury.

In any case, Aga won that match and I don't remember anybody complaining at the time. At least Martina came back and finished the match, something I would have not done if I had just run into the bathroom to get high...one thing this scandal is showing is just how reactionary and uneducated people can be. These comments are just going to expose a lot of people's ignorance. I have nothing against him and I really like Aga, but he sounds really lame here.

Gosia_O
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:38 AM
Brała czy nie brała jak kokaina znazła się w jej organiźmie. Wilander i Novacek tez byli nie winni a brali to samo. To co powiedział o ATP to 100% prawda, poza tym Wimbledon był dawno a tu cisza, sama zawodniczka sobie takiej świni nie podłozyła, po prostu brała :lol:

Poczytaj troche o kokainie (polecam wikipedie) bedziesz wiedzial jak moze dostac sie do organizmu np. poprzez leki, ktore niekiedy zwieraja niewielkie ilosci kokainy, a poza tym swym skladem chemicznym kokaina jest podobna do paru innych substancji, ktore nie sa zakazane. Zreszta Hingis zrobila inny test na obecnosc narkotykow, ktorego wynik jest negatywny. Za duzo jest tu niepewnosci by okreslic jednoznacznie wine, badz brak winy zawodniczki. Ja osobiscie wierze, ze zawodniczka tej klasy co Hingis nie zrobilaby tak glupiej rzeczy, poza tym jej argumenty wydaja sie dosc logiczne (bardziej logiczne niz te oskarzenia).:devil:

switz
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:42 AM
yeah she went and did a few lines and a downed a few vodka red bulls during the changeover. She also had sex with the linesman who escorted her i'm sure :o

AnnaK_4ever
Nov 3rd, 2007, 12:06 PM
He said what he was thinking. He isn't crazy

No, he's just an idiot and attention-seeker.

NeeemZ
Nov 3rd, 2007, 12:16 PM
yeah she went and did a few lines and a downed a few vodka red bulls during the changeover. She also had sex with the linesman who escorted her i'm sure :o

:lol:

Wojtek
Nov 3rd, 2007, 12:27 PM
Poczytaj troche o kokainie (polecam wikipedie) bedziesz wiedzial jak moze dostac sie do organizmu np. poprzez leki, ktore niekiedy zwieraja niewielkie ilosci kokainy, a poza tym swym skladem chemicznym kokaina jest podobna do paru innych substancji, ktore nie sa zakazane. Zreszta Hingis zrobila inny test na obecnosc narkotykow, ktorego wynik jest negatywny. Za duzo jest tu niepewnosci by okreslic jednoznacznie wine, badz brak winy zawodniczki. Ja osobiscie wierze, ze zawodniczka tej klasy co Hingis nie zrobilaby tak glupiej rzeczy, poza tym jej argumenty wydaja sie dosc logiczne (bardziej logiczne niz te oskarzenia).:devil:
To tak jak z Peurta czy innym Argentynczkami soczki itd. :help:

ce
Nov 3rd, 2007, 01:09 PM
Budala

tennis_lover89
Nov 3rd, 2007, 01:44 PM
what a jack*ss..he's just jealous that her daughters carreers are not gonna be nearly as good as martina's..what a joke:fiery:

TTomek
Nov 3rd, 2007, 01:50 PM
what a jack*ss..he's just jealous that her daughters carreers are not gonna be nearly as good as martina's..what a joke:fiery:
STFU you stupid and retarded fan of this bitch Sharapova :fiery:

tennis_lover89
Nov 3rd, 2007, 01:58 PM
STFU you stupid and retarded fan of this bitch Sharapova :fiery:seems you're in your period;)..don't worry I already put you on ignore, I don't care about fighting

brent-o
Nov 3rd, 2007, 02:01 PM
What an idiot. For one reason, it's not his place to say that. And secondly, seriously? That's what he's basing his reason on? Well, she went to the bathroom so logically she was snorting something. Concrete evidence there.

TTomek
Nov 3rd, 2007, 02:13 PM
she got a warning for...

saint2
Nov 3rd, 2007, 02:29 PM
Ładnie Radwański na idiotę wyszedł :p

miffedmax
Nov 3rd, 2007, 02:34 PM
If bathroom breaks at inappropriate times is now suspicious and linked to taking drugs should we point out the players that have gone crazy doing this over the years. I don't think Martina would be one.

If this is evidence, then it's clear that Elena "Queen of the Potty Breaks" Dementieva is the biggest coke whore in tennis and perhaps the world.

kseniaPL
Nov 3rd, 2007, 03:03 PM
I do my best to make a full translation from the article:

The tennis world is in shock! Martina Hingis (27) has revealed that there was cocaine discovered in her at Wimbledon. However,she claims that she is fully innocent. But is it true? - asks Super Express
"The old sportsmen find they do not have enough power, so therefore they need something to the end of career else and they try different, and unfortunately, usually impure methods," Express Super has from the conversation with Robert Radwański, the father and coach of the one who is the best Polish tennis player, Agnieszka Radwańska. There were many such cases in the last years but the Argentinians most notably, headed by Puerta and Canas. It is said that tennis is the gentlemen's sport, but also there are black sheep within this environment. And no small number, evaluates Mr Radwański. He has suspicions about the 3 sets match in Miami of Agnieszka against Hingis. "she led from Martina a set and 4-1 and then she left from the court to the bathroom, but it is forbidden by official reasons! She said that she went to change her clothing, but I was suspicious. However, it was my only case (for suspicion) Mr Radwanski concedes, truthfully. He also does not have any doubts that the moment of imparting this shocking message was accidental. They want to deflect attention from the scandals of men's tennis. "It was but ages ago Wimbledon, and for several weeks these results have been known; however now there is such a black cloud hanging over the ATP and they are trying by all possible means to brush those matters under the carpet - concludes Mr Radwanski.

Gosia_O
Nov 3rd, 2007, 03:14 PM
To tak jak z Peurta czy innym Argentynczkami soczki itd. :help:

Ja nic o soczkach nie mowilam ;) . Ale np. w srodkach przeciwbolowych (a wtedy Hingis miala przeciez kontuzje) jest mozliwosc wystapienia substancji podobnych chemicznie do kokainy, poza tym stosuje sie np. roztwór chlorowodorku kokainy w celu znieczulenia miejscowego ze względu na łatwe przenikanie błon śluzowych, to udowadnia w jakims stopniu, ze kokaina bywa (w malych ilosciach) stosowana w medycynie. Oczywiscie mowie to nie dlatego, ze uwazam ze tak sie wlasnie stalo tylko dlatego, ze istnieje duzo mozliwosci wyjasnienia calej tej sytuacji i musimy poczekac, az bedziemy mieli wiecej informacji by ocenic co sie stalo.

DaniMasha3
Nov 3rd, 2007, 03:55 PM
this makes me not like radwanska more

Keaka
Nov 3rd, 2007, 05:27 PM
yeah she went and did a few lines and a downed a few vodka red bulls during the changeover. She also had sex with the linesman who escorted her i'm sure :o

:haha: :haha:

miffedmax
Nov 3rd, 2007, 08:26 PM
Anybody who thinks doing coke would help you win a tennis match is probably high on something themselves.

alexia1huff
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:31 PM
troche nie na temat, ale ta cała dyskusja o kokainie przypomniała mi o kaczyńskim który nie wiedział że marihuana jest robiona z konopii.

yeah she went and did a few lines and a downed a few vodka red bulls during the changeover. She also had sex with the linesman who escorted her i'm sure LOL
and looks like the linesman didn't like it, cause she lost

alexia1huff
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:41 PM
this makes me not like radwanska more

like i said her dad is not her and he is stupid for mixing in the amount he does, unless radwanska herself speaks up about this (which I would discourage any player to comment upon, unless a whole assembly was made, because we will have all the haters on their ass the second they do). Her dad is nothing but a coach he may influence her in some way, but in the end his opinion is not worth anything, i'm sure some reporters jumped on him somewhere and he should have made no comment. Talking to the press is the worst thing you can do, it only encourages rumours. If he has so many opinions he should do politics :rolleyes: .

danieln1
Nov 3rd, 2007, 09:48 PM
Yeah, for sure Martina would use drugs in the middle of a match, and against this average player...for Christ´s sake! maybe he´s trying to explain why his daughter won! Because only on drugs Martina would lose to her... haahahhahahah Stupid idiotic man

hingisGOAT
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:14 PM
Yeah, for sure Martina would use drugs in the middle of a match, and against this average player...for Christ´s sake! maybe he´s trying to explain why his daughter won! Because only on drugs Martina would lose to her...

:haha:

I really can't stand tennis parents/coaches, they're all idiots :help: They remind me of the beauty pageant parents who put their young kids through hell and back for their own self-serving purposes.

More of them should just shut the fuck up and let their daughters do their own thing. Anne Davenport is the perfect example :bowdown:

How come I never hear of these crazy parents on the ATP?

DutchieGirl
Nov 3rd, 2007, 10:27 PM
How come I never hear of these crazy parents on the ATP?

Because the majority of men aren't coached by their parents, whereas a hell of alot of girls are (or their parents have some involvement). I think the parents like to be involved more with the women, because they feel they may be exploited at a young age with the mostly male world of coaching/execs in tennis. ;)

Jankofun
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:26 PM
First post here so hi all. I don't know what all the fuss about a Radwanska parent commenting on Hingis (!??) is all about, i'm a bit sceptical about father s training there own daughters in the first place, let alone them commenting on others ... As a Hingis fan from the start i'm glad she quitted now because things (on the court) were clearly going downhill which must behave been saddening to her.

faboozadoo15
Nov 3rd, 2007, 11:29 PM
What an attention whore.
Fuck the radwankers.

go hingis
Nov 4th, 2007, 01:16 AM
so his saying the WTA put Martina out to dry to save the ATP or TENNIS. They're behaviour has been weird. I would think as soon as a player's test come's up posititive the independant agency would inform the WTA and the WTA would be present when the player was informed, but that doesn't seem the case and with so many young girls on tour it doesn't seem right.