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samsung101
Oct 22nd, 2007, 05:34 PM
The wind is blowing like crazy again.
Hot and windy all day. Isn't supposed to die
down until Wednesay morning.



Ash and smoke all over OC, but, it seems to
better than last night. The Silverado Fire now
seems to have been arson. It's heading south
now to more populated areas in Lake Forest, thru
the canyons - which are sparsely populated.

That San Diego area fire is looking ominous to me.
Same place as the deadly fires a few years ago.
Lots of homes, businesses, the Wild Animal Park,
Ramona, maybe down to Rancho Santa Fe area. This one
is growing fast.

They're using the football stadium in San Diego as
the evacuation area, and probably the Del Mar Race
track later on.

Malibu, Saugus, those are very bad too. The winds are
spreadings things around fast.

njnetswill
Oct 22nd, 2007, 05:41 PM
My area is being told to evacuate here in North San Diego.

My backyard: :help:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/njnetswill/File0008.jpg

sfselesfan
Oct 22nd, 2007, 05:42 PM
I expected to find a post blaming the fires on the liberal media and Nancy Pelosi. Kudos
Samsung, you actually made a post about something else for once.

njne...you should go ahead and take off. The freeways will be crowded getting up through LA.

SF

samsung101
Oct 22nd, 2007, 07:27 PM
Santa Ana Winds and Southern California - they've always been
a deadly and dangerous combination. As a California native,
I can say this is about as bad as I've ever seen it. It's bad.


Please evacuate in North County! Dont' wait. The
entire North of San Diego County from I-5 to I-15 is being
told to evacuate. Better safe than sorry. Just go now.
Seriously.



It's dangerous. The roads are going to be parking lots
with probably near 300,000 people trying to get out of
the area.

I can't emphasize enough how big that area is. From the
sea, past the San Diego Wild Animal Park, to Julian, to
the observatory, the Miramar Air base, tremendous range.


Rancho Santa Fe is being told to evacuate, Carlsbad may be
told to evacuate soon. Carlsbad is right at the beach.
That's how big the fires are....from the mountains to the sea.

I have relatives in Irvine on evacuation notice since last night.
Relatives in Fallbrook that just left their home with fires on
both sides of their little country town. A portion of my town is
on evacuation alert. One spark can do anything when the wind is
like this.


No time to be a hero. Get your loved ones, and get out.

Helen Lawson
Oct 22nd, 2007, 07:39 PM
Let's hope Britney didn't start it!

samsung101
Oct 22nd, 2007, 07:54 PM
Sadly, the Santa Anas are now predicted to stay around until
Wednesday morning.

Evacuate if they told you to.
Even if they didn't, if it's that close, go.

njnetswill
Oct 22nd, 2007, 08:13 PM
Over quarter of a million people being told to evacuate now here in San Diego.

Iroda_Fan
Oct 22nd, 2007, 09:00 PM
My brother was evacuation from the fire at the Wild Animal Park in North San Diego when a tree fell over his wife's car.
That was really scary, luckly we had great people willing to help to remove the tree and were able to get my nephew and dog out.

kittyking
Oct 23rd, 2007, 02:18 AM
Friend sent me this link, its pretty useful: http://old.rimoftheworld.net/incidents/

samsung101
Oct 23rd, 2007, 04:41 PM
Lake Arrowhead, the San Bernardino Mountain areas, are being ravaged by the
fires. Dry trees and brush, not much snow or cold weather yet up there, and
areas that haven't burned much in the past few years, are just going up like
matches. I think they said over 150 homes gone already.

San Diego, maybe 500 or more homes gone. Fires still burning. Now, heading
into south SD City areas, from the border locations, in the dry areas. Into
Temecula possibly, that would be very bad too, reaching into the south Riverside
County area now too.

The folks in the stadium in San Diego are handling themselves just great.
Very civil and relaxed, considering the stress they are all under. No major
problems at all, except maybe too many donated items, and not enough people to
distribute everything properly.



The firefighters are doing all they can. They have excellent plans in place for
such situations, but, this is just way too much ground to cover, and too many people
to move around. They will always put saving people ahead of saving a house.


I think today will be another bad day, the wind is picking up in OC right now. It's
warmer than yesterday too, at 8:45 a.m. than it was yesterday at this time.

samsung101
Oct 23rd, 2007, 09:45 PM
Valley Center, La Jolla Indian Reservation, near Wild Animal Park,
even to Solana Beach and San Marcos areas in San Diego - evacuated,
burning. Fallbrook is a disaster.

The air is horrendous in many parts of San Diego.
The homes and brush burning. But also the chemicals from homes,
propane tanks blowing up, paints, asbestos burning. Bad stuff.


In OC, Modjeska and Silverado Canyons, burning, arson started, and
people and animals evacuated. A lot of horses out there. Foothill
Ranch, newer community, finally evacuated, fires touch and go.

Firemen hurt on Sunday in SD, were trying to persuade people to leave
the dangerous fire area, when they were all overcome by the flames,
many burn victims, one death.

When they tell you to leave, leave....three firemen may die because
they were caught in a firestorm trying to persuade laggers to get out.




San Diego and OC Red Cross taking donations.
Qualcomm is taking donations and food and clothing and blankets and tents
from anyone who can provide.
DelMar Race Track is too.

Niterc
Oct 23rd, 2007, 09:53 PM
Any news on Kiwifan? Is he alright? :worried:

samsung101
Oct 23rd, 2007, 10:29 PM
Political infighting already in OC over Modjeska and Foothill Ranch fires.
Todd Spitzer OC Assemblyman is leading the charge of 'too little, too late'.
Great.

They want to know why they didn't get more firefighters in their areas,
helicopters, etc. They did have lots of firefighters. But, hey, there is
this thing called Santa Ana Winds.....they are erratic. The firefighters
had a close call yesterday already, with 8 having to use their flame resistant
emergency blankets to escape death, and w/i minutes the homeowners are saying
they are not doing enough.

Seriously, in OC, the voters care more about the quality of sand on the beach,
then they do funding the police and firemen. How about some more volunteers
for the local volunteer fire stations?

Uh, there are fires all over So. Cal. Firemen choose to save lives first. Period.


Amazing.

How about not moving to an isolated canyon, surrounded by drought dry brush
for years, plant more shrubs around your home, w/o the firebreak areas properly
done by you, and worry more about saving a special frog species, than funding
for more firefighters and better equipment.

Modjeska has been a match ready to be lit for a long time. It's on fire now, and
we're lucky that hasn't exploded even more.




They have not lost one life in OC. That's their main objective.
Everything else is gravy when things are like they are now.

Save the second guessing for the time when the fires are all done.

kittyking
Oct 23rd, 2007, 11:51 PM
Political infighting already in OC over Modjeska and Foothill Ranch fires.
Todd Spitzer OC Assemblyman is leading the charge of 'too little, too late'.
Great.

They want to know why they didn't get more firefighters in their areas,
helicopters, etc. They did have lots of firefighters. But, hey, there is
this thing called Santa Ana Winds.....they are erratic. The firefighters
had a close call yesterday already, with 8 having to use their flame resistant
emergency blankets to escape death, and w/i minutes the homeowners are saying
they are not doing enough.

Seriously, in OC, the voters care more about the quality of sand on the beach,
then they do funding the police and firemen. How about some more volunteers
for the local volunteer fire stations?

Uh, there are fires all over So. Cal. Firemen choose to save lives first. Period.


Amazing.

How about not moving to an isolated canyon, surrounded by drought dry brush
for years, plant more shrubs around your home, w/o the firebreak areas properly
done by you, and worry more about saving a special frog species, than funding
for more firefighters and better equipment.

Modjeska has been a match ready to be lit for a long time. It's on fire now, and
we're lucky that hasn't exploded even more.




They have not lost one life in OC. That's their main objective.
Everything else is gravy when things are like they are now.

Save the second guessing for the time when the fires are all done.

Its upto two fatalities, also theirs several people (unsure if its firefighters or civilians) who are in hospital in a critical condition.

Williamsser
Oct 24th, 2007, 03:01 AM
samsung, do you believe in global warming now?

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 24th, 2007, 03:39 AM
that's so sad , I'll pray for you now .

kiwifan
Oct 24th, 2007, 03:46 AM
Any news on Kiwifan? Is he alright? :worried::lol:

Thanks, I'm not even a little in danger. :angel:

samsung101
Oct 24th, 2007, 05:06 PM
I-5 closed from San Clemente to Oceanside due to the fires
at Camp Pendleton, and it crossed the freeway. This should
be out sooner than later, I hope.

The big fire now is out in Julian, and still in Fallbrook, and
the air just sucks all over. People may get to go back to
some of the burn areas just to see if they can retrieve anything.
But, most will not be able to get in for days - things still
smoldering and potential fire problems. Rancho Bernardo is
a disaster zone.


Credit to the first response teams of the city, county, and state
levels. They did a great job all the way across...doing what they
had to, with what they had. Not much whining, except for Todd Spitzer
and the OC fire chief about not getting a plane soon enough w/water.

The feds will now come in to offer more help, as requested. Mostly
the low int. loans, and temp. housing. As it is supposed to.

Memo to California - buy some more of those huge planes, like the
ones the Canadian govt. sent over. We should have a fleet of those
things, since we know we get these fires every few years. Not at this
level, thankfully. But, we should have more ready to go, w/o waiting on
other states or the feds to help w/planes.

fufuqifuqishahah
Oct 24th, 2007, 09:48 PM
I remember a few years ago when I was closer to the fires the whole sky was red and there were ashes all over the places cuz they were falling down from the sky. it was like MARS.

this year, im further away from these year's fires so i'm just dealing with the pink view, heat, and poor air quality. its good thing though that the federal government is taking some actions. :)

kiwifan
Oct 24th, 2007, 10:50 PM
I remember a few years ago when I was closer to the fires the whole sky was red and there were ashes all over the places cuz they were falling down from the sky. it was like MARS.

this year, im further away from these year's fires so i'm just dealing with the pink view, heat, and poor air quality. its good thing though that the federal government is taking some actions. :)

I'm in the middle of Los Angeles, the sky is getting kind of brownish to the South and the air is thick and smells kind of like charcoal at a cookout. :(

Gotta hope for rain, I guess. :shrug:

La Abuela
Oct 25th, 2007, 02:09 AM
Here in Hemet we can see the smoke from the Temecula area, but the air is still resonable. The winds seem to be dying here and should change to onshore and bring in some humidity. Looking at the maps of the fires is like looking at the end of the world.
I love California. This really breaks my heart.

kittyking
Oct 25th, 2007, 05:27 AM
Saw Arnie on TV just before, he appears to be handling the situation well

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 25th, 2007, 05:35 AM
My mom says that she has to drive over ash in the driveway every morning. It's like it's RAINING ash.

I wish I wasn't away from home now. I wish I could be there with my family for this. I was there for the last fire, but this one is MUCH worse :(

mckyle.
Oct 25th, 2007, 07:18 AM
samsung, do you believe in global warming now?

Someone lighting a match in a forest is global warming :worship:

:spit:

woosey
Oct 25th, 2007, 07:32 AM
Santa Ana Winds and Southern California - they've always been
a deadly and dangerous combination. As a California native,
I can say this is about as bad as I've ever seen it. It's bad.


Please evacuate in North County! Dont' wait. The
entire North of San Diego County from I-5 to I-15 is being
told to evacuate. Better safe than sorry. Just go now.
Seriously.



It's dangerous. The roads are going to be parking lots
with probably near 300,000 people trying to get out of
the area.

I can't emphasize enough how big that area is. From the
sea, past the San Diego Wild Animal Park, to Julian, to
the observatory, the Miramar Air base, tremendous range.


Rancho Santa Fe is being told to evacuate, Carlsbad may be
told to evacuate soon. Carlsbad is right at the beach.
That's how big the fires are....from the mountains to the sea.

I have relatives in Irvine on evacuation notice since last night.
Relatives in Fallbrook that just left their home with fires on
both sides of their little country town. A portion of my town is
on evacuation alert. One spark can do anything when the wind is
like this.


No time to be a hero. Get your loved ones, and get out.

:haha:

why is it that whenever you post it's like you're giving people some kinda newsflash? :scratch:

woosey
Oct 25th, 2007, 07:34 AM
it's pretty much ok in my part (northern) of los angeles county.

samsung101
Oct 25th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Arrowhead/Arrowbear....blazing away. Lost many homes there. Two bodies found in
Poway in San Diego County. Qualcomm has only about 500 or so evacuees left. Most
have been able to go home, gone to stay with family or friends, or at hotels c/o their
insurance policies.


Amazing so few people died, or were injured.
No Santa Ana Winds today. Good. But, still fires in
several areas. Won't be out for weeks.


Jamie Lee Curtis - reknowned world scientist - says global warming and people who
live in houses are to blame. Odd, I think Santa Ana winds have been happening
in California forever...hundreds of years ago. So. Cal. is essentially a desert,
and the LA place she lives at exists only because we stole, er', borowed water
from Colorado, No. Cal., and Mono Lake decades ago. She gives up her house first
please.

Can you just let the people go home, let the fires die down, and people bury the
dead, before you start blamingn the people themselves for all of this.



Also, the areas of San Diego hit hardest have been populated for years, 100 years ago.
But, not at this level, very true. Yes, builders and cities should do more to
create clear spaces/fire breaks in the mountain areas. I think that's long overdue.

Yes, Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead, etc., there are more private homes in forest areas
here, than anywhere else in the nation. Something needs to change w/that.

But, every time people try to talk about thinning the forest for this type of thing,
the environmental nuts scream about it.