View Full Version : Who Are the Future Top Players???

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 10th, 2002, 02:46 AM
I am not talking about the Danielas of the wta, we all know Daniela is basically a top player who is going to rise and rise. i'm talking about the Junior girls who show the most promise! The 16 year olds and younger!

Who are the Champions of the Future?

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:01 AM
Daniela Casanova
Myriam Casanova
Elke Clijsters
Ashley Harkleroad
Dinara Safina
Maria Sharapova
Angelique Widjaja

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:02 AM
The recent Wimbledon junior champ, Vera Douchevina!

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:02 AM

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:08 AM
Other than my Russians, that's perhaps three Swiss players, maybe Kaia Kanepi, and I, perhaps, can't think of anyone else.

Elke and Ashley are already around for quite a while. Not only they don't improve in WTA tournaments, they are still pretty useless in Juniors too.. And they are not 15 yo.

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 10th, 2002, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by ys
Other than my Russians, that's perhaps three Swiss players, maybe Kaia Kanepi, and I, perhaps, can't think of anyone else.

Elke and Ashley are already around for quite a while. Not only they don't improve in WTA tournaments, they are still pretty useless in Juniors too.. And they are not 15 yo.

Ouch...Useless? :rolleyes:

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 10th, 2002, 03:20 AM
At least Kimmie Jr. won a grand slam dubs title and I believe number one ranked in dubs...

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:23 AM
Only if Elke can improve other parts of her game.

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:34 AM
Elke Clijsters, Maria Sharapova!

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:48 AM
M. Casanova
Vera D.
Vera Z.

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:48 AM
Daniela Casanova is no where near as good as Myriam and she is older at 18.

13 yr old
Alissa Kleibanova
Julia Cohen
Viktoriya Kutusova

14 yr old
Tatiana Golovin
Ana Ivanovic

15 yr olds
Vera Douchevina
Maria Sharapova
Jarmila Gajdosova
Carly Gullickson
Maria Kirilenko
Jamea Jackson

16 yr olds
Dinara Safina
Barbora Strycova
Petra Cetkovska
Silvana Bauer
Ally Baker
Su-Wei Hsieh

I can name a few more but this will do. not all will crack it but i expect a large proportion to make it into the good time.

Jul 10th, 2002, 03:54 AM
Eggy, no Dinara Safina?

Jul 10th, 2002, 04:23 AM
ooops my mistake :o

Jul 10th, 2002, 04:32 AM
What about those who are now 17-18?

I think that Vera Zvonareva can surprise us all.. She is very steady in her development, no revolutions, no dazzling runs, but steady, steady improvement. Her game reminds me Nadya's game, except that Vera seems to have a much better mental balance. During 17 matches winning streak of Serena Williams only two players managed to take a set of her - Capriati and Zvonareva.

Jul 10th, 2002, 04:44 AM
17 yr olds
Vera Zvonareva
Myriam Casanova
Angelique Widjaja
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Gisela Dulko
Edina Gallovits
Kaia Kanepi ( struggling with shoulder already :sad: )
Marion Bartoli
Matea Mezak (currently long term injured)

18 yr olds
Lina Krasnoroutskaya (hopefully she can get back into the swing of things after her long absence :sad:
Marie Gaine Mikaelian
Sofia Arvidsson

Some of the players are late developers than others.

A few years ago not many of the top 10 end of year rank juniors even made the Top 100, that number is now growing rapidly.

Jul 10th, 2002, 06:55 AM
Jamea Jackson
Sofia Arvidsson
Vera Zvonareva
Maria Shaparova
Ashley Hakleroad
Gisela Dulko (She's on pro I guess)

Jul 10th, 2002, 06:56 AM
michaela krajicek!

Jul 10th, 2002, 09:17 AM
Angelique WIDJAJA (Indonesia)

*Wimbledon 2001 & French Open 2002 Junior Champions (SINGLE)

*Australian OPEN 2002 Juniors Champions (DOUBLES with Gisela DULKO)

*The 2001 Wismilak Open, BALI Champion

*2002 Al Habtoor DUBAI Champion

*2002 Ladies Bol Championship (Doubles with Tathiana GARBIN)

*Beat #.15 Anna SMASHNOVA (at the 1st Round) The Wimbledon Championships 2002

*Her Ranking jumped from 578th (2001) to 75th (after Wimbledon 2002 as of July 8th, 2002) SINGLE & 88th for Doubles

Jul 10th, 2002, 09:20 AM
I know she is older but I think ELENA BALTACHA is a star for the future! Still improving all the time, and some great recent wins!!!!


Jul 10th, 2002, 11:16 AM
I'm not convinced by Ashley Harkleroad, she seems to be already lagging behind the other top juniors.

Myriam Casanova is looking pretty good though.

E. Blackadder
Jul 10th, 2002, 11:19 AM
elke will cause some serious damage in doubels when she starts playing more WTA tournaments

Williams Rulez
Jul 10th, 2002, 11:22 AM
Can some one rate how good Ashley is?

She did reach the RG Juniors finals... but excatly how is she compared to other juniors her age. Rate her according to surface please.

Jul 10th, 2002, 11:28 AM
Angelique Widjaja.. She'll be in top 20 in 2 years or less..I believe :D.. Her type is like Lindsay Davenport.. She's tall around 175 - 180 cm.. She alson got the backbone problem.. :p :p

and.. Ashley Harkleroad.. She's beem doing great and I hope to see her more!! with Widjaja in doubles :D :D

Elke-- ok.. she will make an upset!! Beat top players maybe :D
Vera Zvonareva -- She's looking good right now... if i'm not wrong she is now in rank 85.. so better watch her out!!
Casanova -- She beat Torrens-Valero in French Community.. She's a grat player!!

Jul 10th, 2002, 11:30 AM
I haven't seen a lot of the juniors, from what I've seen of Harkleroad, top 30 would be a major accomplishment. Because of all the "American Anna" hype, I remember once saying that Ashley is farther behind Kournikova (in tennis) than Kournikova is behind Hingis.

Jul 10th, 2002, 11:33 AM
Vera Zvonareva :D ;)
Maria Sharapova
Vera Douchevina

Jul 10th, 2002, 11:38 AM
i hope Anna-Lena Grönefeld can make i to the top

and i hope 14yrs old german Andrea Petkovic too :D

Jul 10th, 2002, 11:47 AM
Ashley got to French finals, but she was 17, if she got to French finals in 2000 or 2001 then it would be a diff story. Just a week before French she was cut apart and destroyed by a tiny 13 yr old Ukrainian.
Clay is her best surface by a long way, on other surfaces she's get pushed around. Ashley would to well to make top 75.

I see Elke more of a doubles player as well.

Gisela Dulko has to start making a move soon, her junior performances have been a bit disappointing, now she's got to really do well, i'm sure she can and clay is her best.

Dinara Safina, Vera Zvonareva, Kaia Kanepi haven't played Jr's at all in 2002 and stopped.
Angelique Widjaja played her last event at RG and won.

I doubt if we see Myriam Casanova in Jr's again especially if she makes maindraw of US Open.

there's one i forgot about 16 yr old Marta Domachowska (POL).

Apart from the Russian girls already listed there will be another 50 or so very good ones coming thru in next 3-5 years in the Juniors.

Jul 10th, 2002, 11:47 AM
Widjaja :)
M Casanova
Hsieh :)

Jul 10th, 2002, 12:05 PM
Harkleroad :D and Sharapova :rolleyes:

Doris Loeffel
Jul 10th, 2002, 12:24 PM
Too bad Romina Orpandi still hasn't found her old form after her shulder injury last year.

There's an other swiss player doing pretty good Timea Bacsinszky even when she lost first round at RG.

Jul 23rd, 2002, 07:25 PM
Gisela Dulko!

Jul 23rd, 2002, 07:33 PM
From what I've heard, the ones Eggy listed seem to have a fair amount of talent. I saw Douchevina, Golovin and Sharapova at Wimbledon - Sharapova was the most impressive at the time (it was the match where she absolutely destroyed Cory Ann Avants - she was really on fire), but I can definitely see how Vera D beat her in the final. It's hard to believe Golovin is only 14...

How did Aniko Kapros get to the top of the juniors, incidentally? She had some very good rivals, and won the Aus Open juniors, and had some amazing Challenger results when she first played in the seniors... but how did she do it with that serve?

the cat
Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:14 PM
Thanks to Vanity for not forgetting Vera D! :kiss:

My list includes the top 10 Russian junior girls and a few others, including Ashley Harkleroad.

Eggy, Ashley only top 75? LOL! She'll be top 75 a year from now after the hideous WTA Age Restriction rules come off. I think Ashley will be top 150 by years end. And probably higher.

If Ashley isn't top 40 in 2 years, I'll eat my hat! :eek: I think she can make a run at the top 20. You don't have to be an elite player to make the top 20. So it is possible.

And how will Vera Douchevina handle huge expectations now? Can she handle it? Alot of people think Vera D. and not Maria Sharapova will be the best female Russian tennis player. Let's see how she handles the hype.

Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:33 PM
Vera D. & Sharapova are both VERY good. Vera D. is 6 months older then Maria, so she'll get 1st crack at a full year.

I think Ashley could break the top 30 pretty easy in a year or two. Saying 75 would be a big deal, is WAY underrating her.

Kapros, I think if you take away her serve, she could hang around 30-40 in the rankings on & off. I would think she was pretty solid & consistant & that helped her beat more Jr.s who might make a lot of UE's. But in the WTA she'll get hammered a lot on that serve :)

Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Freethinker82
At least Kimmie Jr. won a grand slam dubs title and I believe number one ranked in dubs...

Kimmie Junior? I think you mean the elder Clijsters sister ;)

Well, to correct your post, Elke HAS won the Wimbledon Girls Doubles title last month!!!!! So it's not only Kim who's won a junior slam!
And Kim did NOT reach the top spot, she was no.4 in 1998. Elke is no. 3 (!!) right now!

So Elke's Juniors doubles career is as good as Kim's :)

Jul 23rd, 2002, 09:35 PM
Considering Ashley won 50 K Los Gatos on hardcourts..beating players such as Washington and Cargill, the latter extremely easily, I don't see any reason why her game shouldn't translate to the hardcourts as well. If she can beat Sveta and Strycova on clay...something many players found hard to do this year, then I don't see any reason why she shouldn't crack top 50 easily. She has the potential to be top 20....she did beat Zvonareva every time they played last year, and Zvonareva is a year older.

Vera Douchevina will be very good, also hopefully Gullickson, Jackson, and Cohen. I was expecting a little more from Ally Baker this year, but I'm still hoping for good stuff from her. Obviously, Sharapova and Strycova will be future top players as well. Hoping for top 10 in doubles from Petra Cetkovska.

Jul 23rd, 2002, 09:36 PM
Doubles and Singles games are completely different, so you can't really say how they'll do in singles if they perform well in doubles or vice-versa.

Maria Sharapova will get more chances to play events as she'll get a good run at US events
Vera D has had to make do with Polish events to date as there are no WTA/ITF events at all in Russia, except Kremlin Cup.
so Maria will get a better ranking quicker.

Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:12 PM
No offense Eggy, but aren't your choices a little biased and non-accurate...We're talking DEFINITE future champs...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:13 PM
Like Sharapova, Safina, Clijsters, Harkleroad, etc.

Jul 24th, 2002, 12:37 AM
Its fun to see everyone predicting, but none of us can make any definite predictions, I learned that along time ago. I've watched so many top juniors become journeywomen on the tour...

Jul 24th, 2002, 12:38 AM
Definitely has to be Angelique WIDJAJA

Jul 24th, 2002, 12:39 AM
BTW, I like Ashley, Dinara, Jamea, Ally Baker, Widjaja, Dulko and Vera

Williams Rulez
Jul 24th, 2002, 10:13 AM
Is Hsieh talented enough to make the top 20 at least? From her results and her age, she seems pretty good... :)
[on some surfaces at least]

Jul 24th, 2002, 12:25 PM
Im pretty sure that
Maria Sharapova, Petra Cetkovska, Tatiana Golovin, Ashley Harkleroad, Vera Douchevina, Anne Tchakvetadze, Ana Ivanovic, Silvana Bauer, Matea Mezak and Jamea Jackson will make their way

biggest promise is I think Barbora Strycova

Dulko, M Casanova, Kuznetsova, Hsieh, Widjaja and Zvonareva are all in top 200 right now so they will improve for sure

dont belive that Elke Clijsters, Karolina Sprem or Anna Lena Grönefeld can reach top 30, especially not Elk

For Austrian Girls I think Daniela Kix and Tina Schiechtl can be Top 50 in 2-3 years, Jenny Zika and Elisabeth Bahn Top 100

and the very young girls Stefanie Rath , Kathrin Glatz (15), Anna Bartenstein (14), Diana Toma(14), Eva Hoch(15) and Marielle Weihs(15) Im not sure, but this Stefanie Rath is very promising (she is 12)

Im also counting on 11 year old Nikola Hofmannova from Vienna

Jul 24th, 2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Williams Rulez
Is Hsieh talented enough to make the top 20 at least? From her results and her age, she seems pretty good... :)
[on some surfaces at least]

hopefully she will :D

Jul 24th, 2002, 10:11 PM
Svetlana K. is being consistantly overlooked here.

Jul 25th, 2002, 05:02 AM
Maria Sharapova
Jamea Jackson
Barbara Strycova
Ally Baker
CORY ANN AVANTS! She has a game very similar to Monica's (2 hands on both sides) and has incredibly good angles and volleys for her age. Plus she is INTENSE out there! Her only problem is her serve. If she can get that down, she will be top 40 in 2 yrs

Williams Rulez
Jul 25th, 2002, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by lin
hopefully she will :D Indeed.... :D

Jul 25th, 2002, 09:58 AM
Angelique Widjaja :kiss: of course

M. Casanova :)
Gisela Dulko :)
Vera Zvonareva :)
Svetlana Kuznetsova :)
Vera D. :)
Hsieh Su-Wei :)
Elke Clijster :)
Dinara Safina :)

the cat
Jul 25th, 2002, 04:34 PM
Megan, you're right. Svetlana Kuznetsova is being overlooked! :eek: But she has not had a good year to this point. :(

And Myriam Casanova, the "Russian Wrecking Ball" as I affectionately call her, will be a major factor in women's tennis in the years to come! :D

Lord Chips
Jul 25th, 2002, 07:24 PM
I saw Angelique Widjaja play Smashnova at Wimbledon and was very impressed, even though she was almost a spitting image of my ex-girlfriend.

I also saw Maria Kirilenko play. I was very impressed with her attitude and never say die mentality. She will definatly get somewhere with the attitude she displayed in the match I saw her play in.

the cat
Jul 25th, 2002, 07:57 PM
Hamster, what Wimbledon junior match did you see Maria Kirilenko play in? Was that the semifinal between the Maria's, Kirilenko and Sharapova?

Incidentally Hamster, I met Maria Sharpaova and her agent on Long Island on July 11th. And I spoke with Maria Sharapova's agent Max Eisenbud for about an hour. He was very nice. And I asked him about Maria Kirilenko, and he said that he thought she was a fighter and a fine shotmaker, who could be a great player someday. But he also said she was a little on the small and skinny side. Hamster, is that the way you see Kirilenko, too?

Lord Chips
Jul 25th, 2002, 10:58 PM
I saw her on the Wednesday when she played some girl from Coratia I think.

She appeared to have a bigger build than here opponent but wasn't that tall.

Sport psycollogy is a specialist subject of mine. I learnt all about it when I played youth Rugby in Auckland. One thing I learnt is that the key to sucessess is mental strenght. That can be worth an extra foot in height and a lot more power.

I think she has the tallent to make the top ten and fully believe that only something going seriously wrong can stop her from doind that.

the cat
Jul 25th, 2002, 11:08 PM
Thanks Hamster! :wavey: But which top ten are you talking about? The junior top ten,or the WTA top ten? My guess is you were talking about the WTA top ten. Da?

Jul 26th, 2002, 06:39 AM
I haven't kept up with junior tennis, so I'm going by all the names I've seen on this thread:

Angelique Widjaja - when she won Bali (a Tier 3 event!) last fall, I immediately listed her as a future star.
Dinara Safina - lots of talent, and has already developed consistency...doing so at a young age bodes well for her career.
Vera Zvonareva - that good result at Roland Garros was just the beginning. Actually, if she wins Sopot this week, she has a chance at moving into the Top 50.
I also will be keeping an eye on Myriam Casanova, Su-Wei Hsieh, Ashley Harkleroad and Maria Sharapova.

Jul 26th, 2002, 07:46 AM
Shadisha Robinson too :) :)

Lord Chips
Jul 26th, 2002, 08:21 AM
WTA top 10.