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AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:46 AM
Dunno if it's been posted already but this is how 2009 Tour calendar will most probably look like (slight changes possible)

http://www.********************/nadal_wta_032707.html
btw, credit to Matthew Cronin ;)


Dec 29 - Brisbane
Jan 05 - Doha (B plus)
Jan 12 - Sydney (B plus)
Jan 19 - AUSTRALIAN OPEN
Feb 02 - ?
Feb 09 - Paris Indoors (B plus)
Fed 16 - Dubai (A)
Feb 23 - ?
Mar 02 - Indian Wells (A mand.)
Mar 16 - Miami (A mand.)
Mar 30 - ?
Apr 06 - ?
Apr 13 - Charleston (B plus)
Apr 20 - ?
Apr 27 - Berlin/Stuttgart (B plus)
May 04 - Rome (A)
May 11 - Madrid (A mand.)
May 18 - Berlin/Stuttgart (B plus)
May 25 - ROLAND GARROS
Jun 08 - ?
Jun 15 - Eastbourne (B plus)
Jun 22 - WIMBLEDON
Jul 06 - ?
Jul 13 - ?
Jul 20 - ?
Jul 27 - Stanford (B plus)
Aug 03 - Los Angeles (B plus)
Aug 10 - Canadian Open (A)
Aug 17 - Cincinnati (A)
Aug 24 - New Haven (B plus)
Aug 31 - US OPEN
Sep 14 - ?
Sep 21 - ?
Sep 28 - Tokyo (B plus)
Oct 05 - Beijing (A mand.)
Oct 12 - ?
Oct 19 - Moscow (A)
Oct 26 - TOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS

A mand. - mandatory events for all players who qualify by the rankings
A - 7 of Top-10 players committed
B plus - 1 of Top-6 and 2 of Top-13 players OR 2 of Top-6 players committed (pre-Slam events have no restriction)

P.S.
I'm not sure about Wimbledon dates: will it start 2 or 3 weeks after RG :confused:

Mr.Kardashian
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:53 AM
no zurich?

Kim's_fan_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:58 AM
Looks weird

frenchie
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:59 AM
so there are only big tournies...

mr_burns
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:00 AM
stuutgart during the clay season, have my doubts

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:03 AM
so there are only big tournies...

yes, only 20 'premium' tournaments + Slams + YEC.

'?' denotes tournaments which won't get top-players, I think.

Martian Stacey
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:03 AM
no zurich?
Might be on one of the dates after US Open marked as ?

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:05 AM
stuutgart during the clay season, have my doubts

that's confusing me too. The only explanation (if it's true) is that it'll be clay court event too, like ATP Mercedes Cup.

ClaudiaZ-S
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:07 AM
A mand. - mandatory events for all players who qualify by the rankings
A - 7 of Top-10 players committed
B plus - 1 of Top-6 and 2 of Top-13 players OR 2 of Top-6 players committed (pre-Slam events have no restriction)

Very very difficult to understand :scratch:

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:15 AM
Very very difficult to understand :scratch:

What so difficult?
Australian Open, Roland Garros, Wimbledon, US Open, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Beijing, Tour Championships are mandatory events. All players who get to main draws of these tournaments are obliged to play them. Moreover results at these events will be counted among 16 best results for players rankings.
Dubai, Rome, Canada, Cincinnati, Moscow are granted to have 7 Top-10 players in their draws.
B plus events are granted to have either 1 Top-6 player and 2 Top-13 players or 2 Top-6 players in their draws (Sydney, Berlin/Stuttgart, Eastbourne, New Haven are open for all top players).

jusanothername
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:18 AM
So for those that are injured or are coming back who want to play tier 4's and 5's there is no way to do that? It's short but we've got to give it a try and see what happens, it looks like they do want the big players at everything but again won't that be asking them to play week in week out if every tournement is a must play considering they are thinking of making the players play or be fined.

.Andrew.
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:19 AM
Looks different/peculiar in my view :lol:

Please keep the old calendar season.

Billabong
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:23 AM
What happened to Tokyo PPO/San Diego/Zurich:scratch:?

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:26 AM
Well, Top-10 player schedule may look like this:
1) Syndey
2) Australian Open
two weeks off
3) Dubai
one week off
4) Indian Wells
5) Miami
two weeks off
6) Charleston
two weeks off
7) Rome
8) Madrid
one week off
9) Roland Garros
two weeks off
10) Wimbledon
five weeks off
11) Canada
one week off
12) New Haven
13) US Open
two weeks off
14) Tokyo
15) Beijing
two weeks off
16) YEC

I wouldn't call it busy schedule...

FrOzon
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:26 AM
yes, only 20 'premium' tournaments + Slams + YEC.

'?' denotes tournaments which won't get top-players, I think.

20 premium = 4 (IW,Miami,Madrid,Beijing) + 16
hmm.. didn't know that these 16 other premium tournaments are unequal...

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:28 AM
What happened to Tokyo PPO/San Diego/Zurich:scratch:?

Tokyo is moving to September
San Diego is replaced by Cincinnati
Zurich - ??? (lower-tier event or cancelled)

FrOzon
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:29 AM
Apr 27 - Berlin/Stuttgart (B plus)


Berlin and Stuttgart at the same time? That doesn't make sense...:confused:

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:32 AM
Apr 27 - Berlin/Stuttgart (B plus)


Berlin and Stuttgart at the same time? That doesn't make sense...:confused:

No. It's not clear yet which tournament will be held in April and which will be tune-up to Roland Garros.

ChandaRubinFan22
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:34 AM
Antwerp future for 2009: options to be chosen by september

option1: real tournement or only exhibition
option2: only wta or mix event
option3: february or september

(in 2008 : Tier II event with at least 5 top tenplayers :D ( 9 -17 feb))

FrOzon
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:35 AM
No. It's not clear yet which tournament will be held in April and which will be tune-up to Roland Garros.

Ah thanks, I haven't seen both dates...

aussie12
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:43 AM
december 29 will be brisbane as the gold coast is moving there and having a combined event with the mens event from adelaide which will also finish next year. they are building a new tennis centre and have already announced it.

Uranus
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:49 AM
Antwerp future for 2009: options to be chosen by september

option1: real tournement or only exhibition
option2: only wta or mix event
option3: february or september

(in 2008 : Tier II event with at least 5 top tenplayers :D ( 9 -17 feb))

Anyway it won't even be Tier II :sad:

tommyk75
Apr 3rd, 2007, 01:07 PM
I thought Madrid and Beijing were supposed to be 9-day or 10-day events...

babsi
Apr 3rd, 2007, 01:11 PM
Isn't it kind of obvious that Stuttgart will be indoors in October...they wouldn't go to all that effort of being in a new stadium etc etc and Berlin will be before RG.

This schedule to me seems to be a bit of guesswork and maybe some not too good sources.

Also it will make more sense when the lower tournaments are in.

If Tokyo is September, it could possibly be outdoors.

Ellery
Apr 3rd, 2007, 01:19 PM
Beijing :D I wish I could go.

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 01:20 PM
I thought Madrid and Beijing were supposed to be 9-day or 10-day events...

they are... so what???

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 3rd, 2007, 01:24 PM
Isn't it kind of obvious that Stuttgart will be indoors in October...they wouldn't go to all that effort of being in a new stadium etc etc and Berlin will be before RG.

This schedule to me seems to be a bit of guesswork and maybe some not too good sources.

Also it will make more sense when the lower tournaments are in.

If Tokyo is September, it could possibly be outdoors.

Stuttgart is the only concern. All other dates and events are pretty locigal.

In The Zone
Apr 3rd, 2007, 01:31 PM
Tokyo will be indoors, coinciding with Moscow -- and then the Year-Ending Championships.

How are we sure these are the dates of these tournaments? What are the sources? Etc.

Veritas
Apr 3rd, 2007, 01:37 PM
If Tokyo is September, it could possibly be outdoors.

It'll have to be. The weather won't make an indoor event logical :(

What's ideal is to push the YEC venue to China. I don't need to explain why that makes financial sense, but that way, the WTA can get huge exposure to other booming markets in the region as well. Vietnam's looking good and with China making its mark, Japan's rediscovering its competitive side and will want to work harder promoting its athletes. Plus, this will ensure the PPO remains indoor and possibly Tier 1 - it hasn't had the same problems with ticket sales like (for example) Berlin has had.

IMO, Asia is mostly ignored and it's likely there'll be missed opportunities if the WTA doesn't move quickly enough. All the bravado about funding tennis programs and developing tournaments in China is mostly a front because they're still putting most of their effort into sticking with traditional but struggling markets.

Also, there's still a huge number of people who haven't graduated to middle-class status yet and therefore are potential cash cows for drawing more ticket sales numbers. They might not have had much exposure to international sport before - this is an opportunity to establish a strong tennis foothold! But it the WTA's serious about really putting tennis head-to-head against rival sports like soccer, they'd best do something than add just a mere Tier 1 tournament there.

CORIA01
Apr 3rd, 2007, 02:01 PM
There Are Very Few Tournaments
Is It Sure?

Uranus
Apr 3rd, 2007, 02:32 PM
There Are Very Few Tournaments
Is It Sure?
Only top tournaments are on the list, but there won't be more than this. A bunch of minor tournaments to be added later.

tommyk75
Apr 4th, 2007, 04:21 AM
they are... so what???

In the calendar you posted, you have Madrid and Beijing as taking up just one week. For example, you have Madrid sandwiched in between Rome and Germany. How is Madrid going to run into a second week without overlapping either of the other events?

piercerocks
Apr 4th, 2007, 04:25 AM
i dont like it. at all.

Martie
Apr 4th, 2007, 04:31 AM
Where the %*&@! is AUCKLAND??? :extremelymad: :!@@#$%:

Tenisci
Apr 4th, 2007, 09:29 AM
Istanbul is confirmed as Category B :wavey:

lecciones
Apr 4th, 2007, 09:31 AM
Looks weird

I was about to say that!

Highlandman
Apr 4th, 2007, 09:31 AM
Stuttgart in May on clay? I doubt it after doing the new stadium for the Porsche-Cup last year....

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 4th, 2007, 10:43 AM
Istanbul is confirmed as Category B :wavey:

B but not B plus. Basically it'll be the same Tier III. With no top-10 players.

Uranus
Apr 4th, 2007, 12:13 PM
What is B plus if B equals to Tier III?

A'DAM
Apr 4th, 2007, 01:14 PM
what about the small tournies for players rank below 75???

muniu
Apr 4th, 2007, 01:45 PM
and Warsaw where it is :bolt:

Meteor Shower
Apr 4th, 2007, 01:45 PM
Suck for grass courts tennis.
There were only 4(+Wimbledon) turnaments to begin with, now only two(+Wimbledon). Lower ranked players will be able to play only one event, because surely they won't get in to the second turnament.

-sugi-
Apr 4th, 2007, 04:05 PM
Is it definetely it is the Pan Pacific Open Tier I in Tokyo, or the AIG Open which is normally in September anyway?

The Daviator
Apr 4th, 2007, 04:12 PM
I really don't like it, what's with putting two events in Germany on red clay within a few weeks of each other :o

lecciones
Apr 4th, 2007, 04:16 PM
This is so confusing. :( They have DOHA stuck in the middle of nowhere with the tournaments next to it so far away :(

AnnaK_4ever
Apr 4th, 2007, 05:21 PM
What is B plus if B equals to Tier III?
A = Tier I
B plus = Tier II
all others = Tier III/IV

and Warsaw where it is :bolt:
I posted only 'premium' events. Warsaw won't get such brand.

Suck for grass courts tennis.
There were only 4(+Wimbledon) turnaments to begin with, now only two(+Wimbledon). Lower ranked players will be able to play only one event, because surely they won't get in to the second turnament.
Birmingham and Rosmalen remains where they are, I'm pretty sure.

Is it definetely it is the Pan Pacific Open Tier I in Tokyo, or the AIG Open which is normally in September anyway?
Cronin said Tokyo event would be moved from February to September. Must be PPO in that case...

This is so confusing. :( They have DOHA stuck in the middle of nowhere with the tournaments next to it so far away :(
Women's tournament will follow ATP event that traditionally opens tennis season.

maxomax
Apr 4th, 2007, 06:12 PM
Do you think the challenge Bell could be played during the YEC?

Direwolf
Apr 4th, 2007, 06:37 PM
why cant the player just have 2 breaks..??

i mean.. one summer break and one winter break...
the players are gonna play lots of exhibitions during the
8 weeks(atleast) off during the winter....

can't theyre separate it like...
4 weeks free of tennis after Roland Garros
and 4 weeks free of tennis after YEC ?

May 11-Madrid - Mandatory
May 18- Berlin/Stuttgart - B Plus
Roland Garros- Grand Slam
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It would be kinda unfair for that top ten player
if she would be force to play 4 weeks in a row....
I think that she would be burned out by the time
the 2nd week of RG comes...
especialy since its clay...!!!

i dont think
1 of top 6 is exciting enought for B-Plus....
make it 2 of top 5....
much better...

can't they do anything about the grasscourt schedule??
the green court looks really good on TV...
and green is good for the eyes.. :)


I think that Larry Scott
should have the tv fans/players input in these decision making..
there should be a poll in their site....