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vswfan
Dec 23rd, 2006, 02:27 PM
everyone knoes that Venus has wonderful record on grass and hard court
she played 4 straight finals/5 finals of 6 years at Wimbledon
has won 3 Miami titles
has a wonderful record in US Open and summer hard court season.
her straight winning record in Miami is still the best (with Steffi Graf)
and only Hingis can reach 6 straight semis in USO like Venus.

but no one notice that actually Venus has a good clay record too.
she almost won every big tournaments on clay.
the only 2 big events on clay she hasnt won is Berlin and Roland Garros. her best result is runner-up in both.
she has the longest clay court winning streak0 since 2000, in 2004, 19-0 until RG QF.
her clay court record is 95-24 0.798, ranked 15 in WTA history.
and the 14 players in front of her, only 5 players (Graf.Evert.Henin.Seles.Hingis) played more then 50 matches on clay. so Venus is actually NO.6 on clay in WTA history.
ties 3-3 with Hingis, 1-1 with Henin, leads 1-0 against Seles.

so is Venus a good player on every surfaces?

her titles on clay:
Hamburg- 1999.2001
Rome- 1999
Amelia Island- 2002
Charleston- 2004
Warsaw- 2004
Istanbul- 2005

runner-ups:
Roland Garros- 2002 lt Serena 5-7 3-6
Berlin- 2004 withdraw to Mauresmo
Warsaw- 2003 lt Mauresmo 7-6 0-6 0-3 ret.
Hamburg- 2002 lt Clijsters 6-1 3-6 4-6
Rome- 1998 lt Hingis 3-6 6-2 3-6

Viktymise
Dec 23rd, 2006, 02:29 PM
Yes, she can adapt her game to any surface very quickly i think, she say's it herself that she finds it easy to make transitions from Clay to grass or hard to clay and be successful

lynch79
Dec 23rd, 2006, 02:47 PM
I answered YES because she's a GOOD player on every surface. Of course with "good" I don't mean "great" or "one of the best", etc... Grass and hardcourts are her best surfaces, on clay she had some good wins. I think carpet indoors is the only surface that can cause her more problems.

Shonami Slam
Dec 23rd, 2006, 03:03 PM
I think She's powerful enough to hit through the red stuff. her actual transition to the surface isn't much.
to be more accurate - she can, and does suit her game when on grass, but when it comes to clay she simply had enough power against competition that did not trouble her enough.
2004 was the last year in which she was still forcefull enough to out-swing her way, but as with all other speculations with the WS, not playing much in the past two years means we will never know how would she fair against Kuznetsova, Henin and Petrova on thier top clay form.
it's a darn shame too, because the WS career is one full of too many astreksis like these.

so i'm going to conclude - she's a fast court player that is good (as in, great) enough to do the damage on slow courts.

Nicolás89
Dec 23rd, 2006, 03:13 PM
she is good on clay, with the court so slow she can reach almost every shot because she is so athletic, but she is great (most of the times) on grass and hardcourts cause of her power, big first serve and volley game, :wavey:

thelittlestelf
Dec 23rd, 2006, 03:38 PM
Well, she definitely can play great tennis on every surface. The question of whether or not she does/will, however, is always up in the air ;).

Highlandman
Dec 23rd, 2006, 04:24 PM
Sure, she can. In 2006 she came back after a long break and only one match in the last 8 months and her results there on clay:

QF Warsaw
SF Rome
QF French Open

And also won against Hingis or Schnyder....

Paneru
Dec 23rd, 2006, 04:57 PM
Grass - 45-9 3 Titles 83%
Hard - 244-54 20 Titles 82%
Clay - 95-24 7 Titles 80%
Carpet - 34-14 3 Titles 71%


Answer: Yes!

LH2HBH
Dec 23rd, 2006, 05:05 PM
Her wost surface is clay.

Having said that you can count the trophies.

ROME 1998 - Runner-Up
HAMBURG 1999 - Champion
ROME 1999 - Champion
ROLAND GARROS 1999 - Doubles Champrion
HAMBURG 2001 - Champion
AMELIA ISLAND 2002 - Champion
HAMBURG 2002 - Runner-Up
ROLAND GARROS 2002 - Runner-Up
WARSAW 2003 - Runner-Up
CHARLESTON 2004 - Champion
WARSAW 2004 - Champion
BERLIN 2004 - Runner-Up
ISTANBUL 2005 - Champion

MrSerenaWilliams
Dec 23rd, 2006, 05:09 PM
so BASICALLY, she's made at least 1 clay final every full season she's played since 1998 :eek: WOW

Mina Vagante
Dec 23rd, 2006, 05:09 PM
yeh she is, ok so clay aint her BEST surface but she was a RG finalist, obviously she is better suited to the hard and grass courts but she is a GOOD player on all surfaces, not a GREAT player though

felipe2004
Dec 23rd, 2006, 08:06 PM
she has the longest clay court winning streak0 since 2000, in 2004, 19-0 until RG QF.
That would be Justine Henin-Hardenne in 2005, when she won Charleston, Warsaw, Berlin and Roland Garros in a row :eek: (she didn't lose a single clay match that year:))
Plus, she won another couple of matches in the following year to get to the 2006 Charleston SF, when she finally lost

Viktymise
Dec 23rd, 2006, 08:10 PM
She was very unfortunate in 04 to have turned her ankle against Sprem in Berlin, i think she would have won RG that yr without the ankle sprain, it was very evident against Myskina that her ankle was bothering her and her movement wasn't as it usually is and she still wasn't fully over it by Wimbledon either

tennismaster8820
Dec 23rd, 2006, 08:18 PM
She was very unfortunate in 04 to have turned her ankle against Sprem in Berlin, i think she would have won RG that yr without the ankle sprain, it was very evident against Myskina that her ankle was bothering her and her movement wasn't as it usually is and she still wasn't fully over it by Wimbledon either

That's true! I'm sure that she would be unstopable at RG, she played so good against everybody on clay prior to that injury!:sad:

V's a star
Dec 23rd, 2006, 08:19 PM
She was very unfortunate in 04 to have turned her ankle against Sprem in Berlin, i think she would have won RG that yr without the ankle sprain, it was very evident against Myskina that her ankle was bothering her and her movement wasn't as it usually is and she still wasn't fully over it by Wimbledon either

I think so 2. Venus played so well against Mary in the 3rd but collapsed against Myskina. The way she was playing @ that moment she cud have beat jcap and Dem. But the fact is she didn't. To bad lol.

Viktymise
Dec 23rd, 2006, 08:29 PM
Yes, the injury took away all of her confidence which was such a shame really and it ruined the rest of her year aswell :sad:

Viktymise
Dec 23rd, 2006, 08:33 PM
If she had of gone to RG playing with the same kind of confidence she had against Karolina in Berlin i dont think anyone that tornie would have beaten her