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Mileen
Dec 17th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Tonight, the Sport Gala is taking place for the sixth time, at the Casino Kursaal in Oostende (Belgium) - my town of birth! Awards will be given to the (Belgian) Best Sports Female (and Male) of the year 2006; the Most Promising Player; the Greatest Sport's Personality; and the best Sports Team of this year.

The show will be a mixture of entertainment and sport and will be broadcasted live at Een, at 20.25 h.!

Kim came out of the limousine in a long, green dress, together with Juju, Kim Gevaert (double Europian Champian Athletics), Caroline Maes and Tia Hellebout (Europian Champian Athletics).

Justine is nominated for the award of Best Sports Woman of the Year!
I hope she wins it this time! I believe the Fed Cup team is nominated for the Best Team.

I am going to watch!

.Andrew.
Dec 17th, 2006, 07:18 PM
Wow you are very lucky! :eek: Good luck Justine and Kim!!! Hope you guys can win some awards! :rocker2:

Mileen
Dec 17th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Wow you are very lucky! :eek: Good luck Justine and Kim!!! Hope you guys can win some awards! :rocker2:

Maybe Zabou or someone else will tape this, so you can see it too!

pigmalion
Dec 17th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Is Justine really there? :eek:

Mileen
Dec 17th, 2006, 07:39 PM
Is Justine really there? :eek:


Yes! Are you watching?

pigmalion
Dec 17th, 2006, 07:42 PM
Yes! Are you watching?

No i have no tv in my student flat. But I thought she was in Monaco instead of :confused:

Slumpsova
Dec 17th, 2006, 07:50 PM
Kim & Juju :hearts:
i like to see the pics!

Elske
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:02 PM
I didn't see Justine? :shrug:

santhuruu
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:08 PM
The Fed Cup Team wins the award for best team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kim looks amazing in the green dress, long big silver earings. Beautiful make up to for Kim!
Once again the question is asked to Kim if she is really going to stop with tennis next year and she said yes.

santhuruu
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Carl Maes is receiving the award!

pigmalion
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:10 PM
Once again the question is asked to Kim if she is really going to stop with tennis next year and she said yes.


:sad:

honeyke
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:11 PM
The Fed Cup Team wins the award for best team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kim looks amazing in the green dress, long big silver earings. Beautiful make up to for Kim!
Once again the question is asked to Kim if she is really going to stop with tennis next year and she said yes.

amazing :hearts:
and no one else deserve the award like they do :worship:

pigmalion
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:13 PM
http://picture.belga.be/galleries/p5702452.jpg

Sara81
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:20 PM
The Fed Cup Team wins the award for best team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kim looks amazing in the green dress, long big silver earings. Beautiful make up to for Kim!
Once again the question is asked to Kim if she is really going to stop with tennis next year and she said yes.

And she also added she would stay in Bree afterwards :)

Sara81
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:21 PM
Kims dress brings back lots of great memories too :)

santhuruu
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:24 PM
Clijsters is presenting the award for the best male athlete!

Mileen
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:26 PM
No i have no tv in my student flat. But I thought she was in Monaco instead of :confused:

Shoot! Justine isn't there after all! Why the hell is she in Monaco? Do you know? Why doesn't she attend the Awards??????????????? Where is she???? I wanted to see her! The whole Fed Cup Team is there, except for Juju. :sad: :sad:

Kim is coming on podium know, as Sport's Female of the Years 2005!
She says she is proud of what the girls have done and is glad she may take part of it.

Mileen
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:30 PM
By the way, I saw Dominique Monami too!

pigmalion
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:37 PM
Shoot! Justine isn't there after all! Why the hell is she in Monaco? Do you know? Why doesn't she attend the Awards??????????????? Where is she???? I wanted to see her! The whole Fed Cup Team is there, except for Juju. :sad: :sad:
.

in fact there is (again) a little controversy ...
Last year she finished fourth of the overall placings, which she had considered as an injustice (and she was right) and thus this year as a sign of protest she did not come. And more she practising currently in Monaco

DragonFlame
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Justine isn't there!:lol: good decision girl, no distractions! You have an Australian Open to win in Januari:angel:

Mileen
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:43 PM
:lol: :lol: The other Kim (Gevaert) also wears a green dress.

The award of best female player is being presented now. They mentioned Justine had chosen not to take part at the Gala, but didn't explain why.

pigmalion
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:45 PM
Justine isn't there!:lol: good decision girl, no distractions! You have an Australian Open to win in Januari:angel:

agree with you :angel:

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:49 PM
in fact there is (again) a little controversy ...
Last year she finished fourth of the overall placings, which she had considered as an injustice (and she was right) and thus this year as a sign of protest she did not come. And more she practising currently in Monaco

According to her website, she will have gotten five weeks of training before Sydney.

santhuruu
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:50 PM
Justine wins best female athlete award!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately she is not there, but in Monaco.

Mileen
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:50 PM
agree with you :angel:

distraction?? It's only Dec. the 17th :rolleyes:


Justine just won the Award of Sport's Female of the Year!!!!

Elske
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:51 PM
LMFAO @ Kirsten and Kim's face :devil: :lol:

pigmalion
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:51 PM
yeahhhhhhhh

Allez Justine !!! Félicitations !!!! :bounce: :bounce:

So well deserved :worship:

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:51 PM
distraction?? It's only Dec. the 17th :rolleyes:


Justine just won the Award of Sport's Female of the Year!!!!

No surprise.

DragonFlame
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:52 PM
whahaha she won! Didn't think it would happen after all that talk about the athletes and she she isn't there. lol Justine:worship:

terjw
Dec 17th, 2006, 08:52 PM
http://picture.belga.be/galleries/p5702452.jpg

Kimmie. :) :) :) :)
Well earned award for the whole Fed Cup Team and Carl.
Justine :confused: :( - you should be there.

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:01 PM
http://picture.belga.be/galleries/p5702452.jpg
It must be hell for them to live in the shadow of the greatest Woman Athlete to ever grace the soil of Belgium.

I applaud Justine's decision to continue training in Monaco and skip the awards presentation.

Belgium and its tennis federation have not historically treated Justine with the respect she deserves as reigning Olympic Champion of women's tennis and the reigning #1 player in the world in the WTA.

I'm proud that JuJu is standing up for herself and no longer taking any of the BS by abandoning the awards ceremonies.

But that's just my opinion.

Sara81
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:06 PM
For me .. just congratulations Justine :yeah:
I don't see why people have to create a negative vibe around it ..

Sara81
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:08 PM
Oh en off course congratulations fed cup team! Well deserved!! :hug:

Mileen
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:08 PM
http://picture.belga.be/galleries/p5702452.jpg
It must be hell for them to live in the shadow of the greatest Woman Athlete to ever grace the soil of Belgium.

I applaud Justine's decision to continue training in Monaco and skip the awards presentation.

Belgium and its tennis federation have not historically treated Justine with the respect she deserves as reigning Olympic Champion of women's tennis and the reigning #1 player in the world in the WTA.

But that's just my opinion.

Obviously, you don't know how Belgium has treated her, no wonder if you live far away in the US, never see B. tv nor read the Belgian press. Not at all, have they treated her disrespectfully!

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Obviously, you don't know how Belgium has treated her, no wonder if you live far away in the US, never see B. tv nor read the Belgian press. Not at all, have they treated her disrespectfully!

Then why didn't Justine attend her home countries award ceremony?

I think that was asked and answered in this thread.

Oh, and I must have forgotten Justine flying all the way to Belgium to help support the Fed Cup team during their semi-finals and was turned away. Albeit, if it weren't for Justine, they wouldn't have made it to the finals.

Sara81
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:26 PM
Albeit, if it weren't for Justine, they wouldn't have made it to the finals.
And if it wasn't for Kim they wouldn't have been in world group 1 .. and if it wasn't for Kirsten they probably wouldn't have made it against the US ... That is why they won the best " team " award I think :angel:

tard~tard
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:29 PM
LMFAO @ Kirsten and Kim's face :devil: :lol:

First facial expressions never lie, one always needs that fraction of a second
to start pretending. Unfortunately Kim had the camera's zoomed in on her
face right at the moment they crowned Justine as Belgian sportswoman of
the year. It was the "oh no, that bitch just won the damn award" gaze. :lol:
Priceless.

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:38 PM
First facial expressions never lie, one always needs that fraction of a second
to start pretending. Unfortunately Kim had the camera's zoomed in on her
face right at the moment they crowned Justine as Belgian sportswoman of
the year. It was the "oh no, that bitch just won the damn award" gaze. :lol:
Priceless.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Justine Fan
Dec 17th, 2006, 09:56 PM
First facial expressions never lie, one always needs that fraction of a second
to start pretending. Unfortunately Kim had the camera's zoomed in on her
face right at the moment they crowned Justine as Belgian sportswoman of
the year. It was the "oh no, that bitch just won the damn award" gaze. :lol:
Priceless.

But of course, did you expect anything else? :lol: Did you tape it?

Lei Clijsters must be going mad :lol: :lol: :tape: :tape: What with ITF Tennis Player Award, UNESCO and now this .... he must be seething! :haha: I wonder what BS he can spread now? :tape:

Mightymirza
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:00 PM
Does anyone have the picture atleast??:lol: it must be priceless..:lol:

hu2891601
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:02 PM
I support justine for not going to that awards presentation!! she should just stay away from all those stuff and focus on training in Monaco!! who cares about those? Justine doesn't care, i'm sure.

<Sven>
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:08 PM
First of all, Kirsten and Justine are really close friends... So no way that Kirsten didn't want Justine to win...
Secondly, Kim didn't look happy, that's true... but the camera zoomed in on her several times during the show (before the award was given to Justine), and she didn't smile then either...
I just think you're searching for things that aren't there...
I think that Kim and Justine have respect for each other, and that they aren't jealous about things like that...
But, think what you want ;)

Geertvg
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:26 PM
Why this rivalry? Jeez. Kim and Justine do respect each other and have said so aswell. Justine did deserve the title, yes, btu I do regret the fact she didn't bother to show up. But ok, congrats to Justine, she deserved it. I don't see the point in bashing Flipkens and Clijsters though?

Justine reacts (in French):

Absente à la soirée, Justine a tenu à réagir immédiatement...
"Je viens d'apprendre que j'ai été élue Sportive belge de l'année. N'ayant pu me rendre à Ostende pour la cérémonie, je tiens à vous dire que ce choix m'honore au plus haut point. Je me rends compte qu'il n'a pas dû être facile car Kim et Tia ont réussi une fabuleuse saison 2006. Comme tout le monde, derrière mon téléviseur, j'ai vibré en les regardant à Göteborg. Je profite donc de l'occasion pour les féliciter. Merci les filles de m'avoir fait vivre de si grands moments, autant sportivement qu'émotionnellement. Vous avez réussi quelque chose de très grand !

Merci aussi aux journalistes qui se font le relais de nos performances aux quatre coins du monde, et j'adresse un remerciement particulier à tous les Belges. Tout au long de la saison, peu importe où je suis, je reçois vos messages d'encouragement et je sens votre soutien. Sachez que cela me touche énormément. Le fait de voir l'équipe de Fed Cup également distinguée me fait encore plus chaud au coeur, avec Kim, Kirsten, Caroline, Leslie et Carl, j'ai vécu en 2006 une aventure inoubliable.

Pour l'année qui vient, je souhaite déjà bonne chance à Tia, (aux deux) Kim, Kirsten et à tous les sportifs, connus ou inconnus, qui sont passionnés par leur sport.

De tout coeur,

Justine"

Ben.
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:32 PM
can we plz stop being negative here bout kim & justine :( some of you posters should just shut the hell up! and appreciate bout what the two have done this year, especially earning the best team award :yeah: :clap2: :clap2:

who cares bout bloody facial expressions & who has friction btw them etc :(

plus congrats to justine for winning her award :yeah: :clap2: :clap2:

Geertvg
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:35 PM
It's sad that once someone wins something, the other one HAS to get bashed and laughed at. I just don't get that. Like why?!? I am happy with any of the 2 winning... I'm Belgian though, but I'd NEVER laugh in someone's face once I win sth myself, it's really.. pointless.

Hagar
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:35 PM
in fact there is (again) a little controversy ...
Last year she finished fourth of the overall placings, which she had considered as an injustice (and she was right) and thus this year as a sign of protest she did not come. And more she practising currently in Monaco

This is SO TYPICAL for that woman! She ALWAYS feels wronged and not justly treated. And then she will again complain that she is not popular.

They should have said that she did not make it to the ceremony because the border between Flanders and Wallonia is closed! :devil:

ChandaRubinFan22
Dec 17th, 2006, 10:54 PM
some pics

http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/mediatheek/foto-061217_sportgala/IB_061217_SP_Clijsters_b-20061217-185359.jpg

http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/mediatheek/foto-061217_sportgala/IB_061217_SP_Henin-20061217-220324.jpg

http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/mediatheek/foto-061217_sportgala/IB_061217_SP_maes_ploeg-20061217-212136.jpg

http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/mediatheek/foto-061217_sportgala/IB_061217_SP_ClijstersMarc-20061217-194701.jpg

http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/mediatheek/foto-061217_sportgala/IB_061217_SP_Monami-20061217-185751.jpg

terjw
Dec 17th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Why this rivalry? Jeez. Kim and Justine do respect each other and have said so aswell. Justine did deserve the title, yes, btu I do regret the fact she didn't bother to show up. But ok, congrats to Justine, she deserved it. I don't see the point in bashing Flipkens and Clijsters though?

Yup - very well said.

I'll keep my thoughts to myself why she didn't bother to turn up. But she should be there. Anyway congratz to Justine for winning the award. She certainly deserved it on her play. But really if the reason for her not turning up is actually what has been suggested - whether she's childishly throwing the toys out the pram or she's too busy training when it's only 17 December :rolleyes: .

BTW - what did she actually say. Can you translate or paraphrase the French?

angele87
Dec 18th, 2006, 12:13 AM
Congrats to the winners tonight, all well deserved I'm sure. As a Kim fan, I can 100% say that Justine deserved the award this year, she had a better year.

Also :hug: for everybody in here who's so bitter. You must be carrying around a lot of that in your real lives and that's sad, especially around the holidays. Hopefully you can all find happiness in the new year :hug:

tard~tard
Dec 18th, 2006, 12:31 AM
can we plz stop being negative here bout kim & justine :( some of you posters should just shut the hell up! and appreciate bout what the two have done this year, especially earning the best team award :yeah: :clap2: :clap2:

who cares bout bloody facial expressions & who has friction btw them etc :(


I agree with you bg017, and really, there's no need for negativity.
But as for facial expressions, I do care, because they're so telling.

I was watching the whole show with my partner tonight.
After the Belgian Fed-Cup team won their price, Kim was interviewed.

Question from the interviewer : So you, this whole team, are all friends
with eachother?

Answer Kim : Yeah, we're all friends.

Question : Have you ever been invited at Justine's place in Monaco for
coffee?

Answer Kim : *smiles* no, I have never been in Monaco.

My partner, who couldn't care less about tennis, stood up and said,
ok, I don't want to watch this anymore, this is a disgrace, no wonder
JHH doesn't feel like showing up for these kind of Flemish parties.

Could I blame her? No, I couldn't, and this was the reaction from
someone who doesn't even follows tennis, let alone that whole stupid
Belgian Clijsters/Henin saga.
She just instinctively felt how wrong this was.

Of course, Kim isn't the one to blame here, it's just the media playing
their tricks over and over again and I'm just so tired with it.
Why can't we respect both these ladies for what they have achieved
in their sport? Why always these cheap ditches at Justine?
It's not like our country will always be in the luxurious position to have
two world class athletes like Kim and Justine, isn' it?
And definitaly not one of the callibre of a JHH.

This is all so exceptional for a tiny country like Belgium. But no,
the media still feels like making a joke about it. While we Belgians
should feel so proud, so incredibly proud.
This can really make me sad at moments. It sometimes feels like we
Belgians deliberatly chose to miss our appointment with sports history.

Allez and cheers to all Belgians! :smooch:

ZeroSOFInfinity
Dec 18th, 2006, 01:51 AM
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/mediatheek/foto-061217_sportgala/IB_061217_SP_Henin-20061217-220324.jpg

"And the Best Award for a billboard advertisment about a Belgian player is..."

(Honestly, this looks more like an advertisment show rather than awards show :lol: )

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 18th, 2006, 03:45 AM
I think that Kim and Justine have respect for each other, and that they aren't jealous about things like that...
But, think what you want ;)
Justine has absolutely nothing to be jealous of....absolutely nothing. Kim on the other hand.........

angele87
Dec 18th, 2006, 04:14 AM
Justine has absolutely nothing to be jealous of....absolutely nothing. Kim on the other hand.........

Actually, if you look at both women, you'll probably see that neither woman has a reason to be jealous of the other. Sure, Justine has had greater success in tennis than Kim but the way I see it, that's not really what's important to Kim. I'm a big Kim fan and it's always seemed to be that what Kim really wanted was a family, not tennis sucess. I have no doubt that she has enjoyed winning all the tournaments that she has but imo, she'll be much happier running around the house with her kids. So Kim's retiring in a year to hopefully move towards having a family. For Justine, on the other hand, tennis success is more important atm, and she's doing great at that. For most woman, it's hard to balance family and work... some woman prefer to have a family young and put their career aside, while others get the most out of their careers in their prime and then have a family. No choice is right or wrong, it's all personal preference. But if you look at Justine and Kim, and what's most important to them right now, I don't think either of them envy the other.

panda7
Dec 18th, 2006, 04:46 AM
Actually, if you look at both women, you'll probably see that neither woman has a reason to be jealous of the other. Sure, Justine has had greater success in tennis than Kim but the way I see it, that's not really what's important to Kim. I'm a big Kim fan and it's always seemed to be that what Kim really wanted was a family, not tennis sucess. I have no doubt that she has enjoyed winning all the tournaments that she has but imo, she'll be much happier running around the house with her kids. So Kim's retiring in a year to hopefully move towards having a family. For Justine, on the other hand, tennis success is more important atm, and she's doing great at that. For most woman, it's hard to balance family and work... some woman prefer to have a family young and put their career aside, while others get the most out of their careers in their prime and then have a family. No choice is right or wrong, it's all personal preference. But if you look at Justine and Kim, and what's most important to them right now, I don't think either of them envy the other.
Very nicely said and very close to what I believe too:worship:
I have a feeling that Justine and Kim are actually a lot less jealous of each other than certain fans of theirs who are projecting their own frustrations and issues on to them:rolleyes:

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 18th, 2006, 05:07 AM
Very nicely said and very close to what I believe too:worship:
I have a feeling that Justine and Kim are actually a lot less jealous of each other than certain fans of theirs who are projecting their own frustrations and issues on to them:rolleyes:

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/s943322.htm

http://www.eurosport.com/tennis/fed-cup/2006/sport_sto928576.shtml

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 18th, 2006, 05:09 AM
Yup - very well said.

I'll keep my thoughts to myself why she didn't bother to turn up. But she should be there. Anyway congratz to Justine for winning the award. She certainly deserved it on her play. But really if the reason for her not turning up is actually what has been suggested - whether she's childishly throwing the toys out the pram or she's too busy training when it's only 17 December :rolleyes: .

BTW - what did she actually say. Can you translate or paraphrase the French?

http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=16272&bannerregion=

Henin-Hardenne To Begin Training Camp In Monaco


Photo By Art Seitz By Tennis Week
12/01/2006

Justine Henin-Hardenne will spend some of the upcoming holiday season participating in her own personal tennis camp. The World No. 1 plans to spend much of the next five weeks training in Monaco before opening the 2007 season in Sydney where she will aim to defend her Medibank International title. Henin-Hardenne has won the Sydney title in two of the past three years.

The exhibition event in Belgium she scheduled to play on December 17 with Olivier Rochus, Nathalie Dechy and Fabrice Santoro was "cancelled due to logistical and infrastructure problems," according to Henin-Hardenne's official web site.

Henin-Hardenne and Rochus learned to play tennis together, grew up practicing together and shared a common dream of playing professional tennis. Last December, Rochus overcame a four-man field that included former French Open champion Juan Carlos Ferrero, fellow Belgian Xavier Malisse and France's Fabrice Santoro to collect the inaugural Vitenza Tennis Challenge in Marche-en-Famenne, Belgium. Henin-Hardenne surprised Rochus by presenting him with the champion's trophy.

"I am an unconditional fan of Olivier's, and I think everyone in this room is aware of his enormous talents," Henin-Hardenne said. "But, I am undoubtedly more of a fan of the person, because I cannot forget that we learned how to play tennis together, and we did so many things together. The two years at the Mons tennis center remains magical souvenirs. I may have moved away, and not live closer, but I appreciate you, as much as always. You can be proud to have remained true to yourself, and that's fantastic."

hu2891601
Dec 18th, 2006, 05:21 AM
well, Kim does want a family really badly, so that's also something that make her kinda jealous of Justine also. because Justine has had a family since very young. sure Kim will be married next year but it's still unknown, she turned down Hewitt the last minute, so who knows.. even if she does get married, she'll have to end her tennis career to get that family... very sad.. so it's not that Justine puts her tennis career in front of her family, it's just that Kim doesn't have the luck that Justine has.. if Kim can find a husband who totally supports her tennis career, and lets her get in the spotlight, and he himself takes care of all the household chores, and also be a semi-agent of hers, i'll bet she won't quit tennis next year... that's what i think at least.

Hagar
Dec 18th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Actually, if you look at both women, you'll probably see that neither woman has a reason to be jealous of the other. Sure, Justine has had greater success in tennis than Kim but the way I see it, that's not really what's important to Kim.

Euh... I don't think Justine had greater succes in tennis! If you take Kim's fantastic doubles' career into account, their careers have equal value. Justine won more individual slams but Kim won slams in doubles.

Justine Fan
Dec 18th, 2006, 10:54 AM
Euh... I don't think Justine had greater succes in tennis! If you take Kim's fantastic doubles' career into account, their careers have equal value. Justine won more individual slams but Kim won slams in doubles.

:spit: :haha: :cuckoo: Doubles .... Shame Kim couldn't do it on her own isn't it?

What about the Gold Medal at the Olympics? Does Kim have one?

What about the many weeks at no1 more than Kim?

Once again Hagar .... you are deluded :cuckoo: but what else is new?

terjw
Dec 18th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Justine Henin-Hardenne will spend some of the upcoming holiday season participating in her own personal tennis camp. The World No. 1 plans to spend much of the next five weeks training in Monaco before opening the 2007 season in Sydney where she will aim to defend her Medibank International title.

Hmm - that says she intends to spend much of the next 5 weeks training. So when did "much" mean every bloody day training so she can't be bothered to turn up for an award - particularly when the Medibank is more than 3 weeks away and after Xmas.

But perhaps the real reason is those same "logistic and infrastructure problems" she cancelled that exhibition match for whatever that means :lol: .

tfannis
Dec 18th, 2006, 11:29 AM
Why this negativity again? :rolleyes:

Kim didn't look happy no, but her facial expression was the same after Justine won as it was when Marc Herremans told how great Kim Gevaert and Kim Clijsters are. She doesn't have a constant smile cramp you know :rolleyes:

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 18th, 2006, 11:33 AM
Hmm - that says she intends to spend much of the next 5 weeks training. So when did "much" mean every bloody day training so she can't be bothered to turn up for an award - particularly when the Medibank is more than 3 weeks away and after Xmas.

But perhaps the real reason is those same "logistic and infrastructure problems" she cancelled that exhibition match for whatever that means :lol: .

Well, she took enough time out a couple of days ago to accept her UNESCO award, which is an international designation and much more prestigious award than anything Belgium has to offer.

Given the options, I'm sure her training took priority and rightfully so. ;)

angele87
Dec 18th, 2006, 11:51 AM
well, Kim does want a family really badly, so that's also something that make her kinda jealous of Justine also. because Justine has had a family since very young.

Sorry, I don't think I explained myself totally clearly in my other post. By having a family I meant having kids.

even if she does get married, she'll have to end her tennis career to get that family... very sad.. so it's not that Justine puts her tennis career in front of her family, it's just that Kim doesn't have the luck that Justine has.. if Kim can find a husband who totally supports her tennis career, and lets her get in the spotlight, and he himself takes care of all the household chores, and also be a semi-agent of hers, i'll bet she won't quit tennis next year... that's what i think at least.

Again, this doesn't really apply now that I specified that I meant she wanted to have kids. And I don't think Kim is being forced into anything, this decision is 100% hers imo. For years now she's talked about wanting to have kids and being a young mom. She could always play tennis and have kids but I can more see Kim staying at home and taking care of her kids. In this respect ( having kids) Justine is definetly choosing her career atm. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's just a personal choice. I know women who've done both and neither is an easy decision but, unforetunately, when you're a woman, you often have to put something on the back burner. Thankfully though, neither Justine nor Kim seem too broken up about the path they've chosen :)

Come-on-kim
Dec 18th, 2006, 12:51 PM
The french speaking press is bitter about Justine today. They compared her to Tia. Tia came just for the award in Oostend from South Africa where's preparing her new season. They say that they are really different and that Justine is a fantastic champion but that she sould pay attention because when she'll begin to perform less good, people will let her down because she "snobs" people.

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 18th, 2006, 01:01 PM
The french speaking press is bitter about Justine today. They compared her to Tia. Tia came just for the award in Oostend from South Africa where's preparing her new season. They say that they are really different and that Justine is a fantastic champion but that she sould pay attention because when she'll begin to perform less good, people will let her down because she "snobs" people.
Oh, but the Belgian public has already let down Justine on many occasions, so it won't really matter what they say or do in the future.

Justine, in my opinion, sent them notice by not showing at the awards ceremony, that they can no longer treat her with disrespect and expect her to allow the continued cycle to exist.

What I don't understand is why some people think Justine should continue to take and take and take Belgium's regional ethnic arguing bullshit and treat her differently (predjudice) just because she is french-speaking.

Kudos to Justine, for standing up for herself and demanding the respect she deserves as a native of Belgium (French-speaking or not).

hu2891601
Dec 18th, 2006, 01:16 PM
OMG, i really don't understand Belgium! but you can say that's because i'm american, LOL.

What's the big deal about not showing up at an award ceremony??? people absent from the award ceremonies all the time! even the annual Oscar award ceremony, some pople will be absent for some reason.... and some of them are the winner! and it's Oscar! god.... everything Justine does will make a big deal, and now next year, if she shows up, people will say stuff like "oh, she's afraid", if she still doesn't show up, people will say something else...... Belgium press...

pigmalion
Dec 18th, 2006, 01:30 PM
OMG, i really don't understand Belgium! but you can say that's because i'm american, LOL.

What's the big deal about not showing up at an award ceremony??? people absent from the award ceremonies all the time! even the annual Oscar award ceremony, some pople will be absent for some reason.... and some of them are the winner! and it's Oscar! god.... everything Justine does will make a big deal, and now next year, if she shows up, people will say stuff like "oh, she's afraid", if she still doesn't show up, people will say something else...... Belgium press...

reason : Belgium is a one of the most complicated country of the world :tape:

pigam
Dec 18th, 2006, 02:05 PM
Oh, but the Belgian public has already let down Justine on many occasions, so it won't really matter what they say or do in the future.

Justine, in my opinion, sent them notice by not showing at the awards ceremony, that they can no longer treat her with disrespect and expect her to allow the continued cycle to exist.

What I don't understand is why some people think Justine should continue to take and take and take Belgium's regional ethnic arguing bullshit and treat her differently (predjudice) just because she is french-speaking.

Kudos to Justine, for standing up for herself and demanding the respect she deserves as a native of Belgium (French-speaking or not).

I don't know if you believe what I will say, but doesn't matter, I am right on this.

Jstine gets a lot more crap from the francophone press in fact. reason? She gives only exclusive interviews to one francophone newspaper and that makes other journalists jealous.

Really, there is no reason to search for "federal reasons" behind all this, becasue there simply arn't.
Check the Belgian newspapers of the last few eeks and you will notice how Justine got ALL the credit from the Flemish press, and how MANY journalists voted for her as the winner of this competition.
A lot of Flemish athletes defended Ju for not coming to the gala.

I'm sorry, you are often right, but on this occasion you really arn't.

pigmalion
Dec 18th, 2006, 02:21 PM
I don't know if you believe what I will say, but doesn't matter, I am right on this.

Jstine gets a lot more crap from the francophone press in fact. reason? She gives only exclusive interviews to one francophone newspaper and that makes other journalists jealous.

Really, there is no reason to search for "federal reasons" behind all this, becasue there simply arn't.
Check the Belgian newspapers of the last few eeks and you will notice how Justine got ALL the credit from the Flemish press, and how MANY journalists voted for her as the winner of this competition.
A lot of Flemish athletes defended Ju for not coming to the gala.

I'm sorry, you are often right, but on this occasion you really arn't.

I completely agree with you. It should be noted that worst criticism that had Justine this morning in Belgian newspapers comes from a French-speaking newspaper :help:

http://www.dhnet.be/dhsports/article.phtml?id=162447
(framed in bottom of the page)

shibster
Dec 18th, 2006, 04:06 PM
what pigmalion was talking about after google translate:

Small-minded person An exceptional champion with the so pure talent and mental of iron. A champion that the whole ground envies us and who, more than no matter whom, obviously deserved to take down the title of Sporting of the Year.

To evoke the exploits of Justine Henin and especially the way in which it them forging mill would thus have, in theory, to constitute a real pleasure. Alas! because of this tough resentment which live it in all circumstances and which prevents it from gumming bad memories that it judges like as many injustices in its connection, it condemns us, often, with as speaking about it in terms less eulogistic as those which coat its exploits.

Its will to be sulky yesterday the evening of official reception which everyone of the Belgian sport answered with smiling and pleasure is a completely moved attitude. It testifies to lamentable a small-minded person which sticks badly with the usual image that one is made of a champion. And that Justine Henin does not come to claim that it did not move because it was to be involved. Nobody is indeed easily deceived true reasons which pushed it to want to humiliate those with which it does not forgive its 4th place, year DER nière, with the same vote.

While reacting as it did yesterday, it was shown even more stupid than those which, wrongly, had not voted for it. If Justine Henin believes to have, of the kind, regulated its accounts with a large fringe of a corporation for which it with hatred, it is mistaken. But this choice is it really it his? Isn't it negatively influenced by close relations who, they, and more than it, think of having to regulate accounts? Only certainty: its absence holds of the lamentable one, and it is a pity well…

tfannis
Dec 18th, 2006, 04:07 PM
I don't know if you believe what I will say, but doesn't matter, I am right on this.

Jstine gets a lot more crap from the francophone press in fact. reason? She gives only exclusive interviews to one francophone newspaper and that makes other journalists jealous.

Really, there is no reason to search for "federal reasons" behind all this, becasue there simply arn't.
Check the Belgian newspapers of the last few eeks and you will notice how Justine got ALL the credit from the Flemish press, and how MANY journalists voted for her as the winner of this competition.
A lot of Flemish athletes defended Ju for not coming to the gala.

I'm sorry, you are often right, but on this occasion you really arn't.

That's true. I've worked for a Flemish newspaper (sports section) and the journalists there said they voted for Justine to be sportswoman of the year, but it would be hard for her to get it because the Walloon press can't stand her :shrug:

They (and some posters overhere) are real babies :p

shibster
Dec 18th, 2006, 04:08 PM
all the more we need you belgian fans/tennis watchers/media watchers to enlighten us :)

Hagar
Dec 18th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Well, she took enough time out a couple of days ago to accept her UNESCO award, which is an international designation and much more prestigious award than anything Belgium has to offer.

Given the options, I'm sure her training took priority and rightfully so. ;)

JHH got absolutely blasted today in "La Dernière Heure" (and rightly so) for not showing up at the awards' ceremony.
A link to the article: http://www.dhnet.be/dhsports/article.phtml?id=162447

I personally think that JHH has closed more than a few doors by not showing up yesterday. Her choice, but I think a lot of people will definitively never have any respect for her again. Her absence basically said loud and clear that she does not want to belong to the Belgian sports' world.

Sara81
Dec 18th, 2006, 05:15 PM
Oh, but the Belgian public has already let down Justine on many occasions, so it won't really matter what they say or do in the future.



Oh please ... there's haters everywhere but people support Justine here just as much as they do Kim. If it weren't for the fact they are not playing it next year, I would invite you to watch both girls playing fed cup ... watch and learn :wavey:

panda7
Dec 18th, 2006, 11:56 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/s943322.htm

http://www.eurosport.com/tennis/fed-cup/2006/sport_sto928576.shtml
I truly do not get your point:o

saki
Dec 19th, 2006, 12:17 AM
:oI truly do not get your point

I don't either! (And I'm a Justine fan..)

Justine Fan
Dec 19th, 2006, 12:56 AM
I think what Swami Marji is trying to show is how Leo Clijsters made slanderous comments after Justine won the two GS final against Kim ... I think :scratch: It was in reply to a poster's statement regarding Kim and Justine.

Hingiswinsthis
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:54 AM
Curious...what language do they use in these Belgian award ceremonies....and what if the winner only speaks either French or Flemish only?

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 19th, 2006, 06:02 AM
Oh please ... there's haters everywhere but people support Justine here just as much as they do Kim. If it weren't for the fact they are not playing it next year, I would invite you to watch both girls playing fed cup ... watch and learn :wavey:

I already have....

http://www.eurosport.com/tennis/fed-cup/2006/sport_sto928576.shtml

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 19th, 2006, 06:03 AM
reason : Belgium is a one of the most complicated country of the world :tape:

Yeah, with very high taxes.

Mother_Marjorie
Dec 19th, 2006, 06:21 AM
I don't know if you believe what I will say, but doesn't matter, I am right on this.

Jstine gets a lot more crap from the francophone press in fact. reason? She gives only exclusive interviews to one francophone newspaper and that makes other journalists jealous.

Really, there is no reason to search for "federal reasons" behind all this, becasue there simply arn't.
Check the Belgian newspapers of the last few eeks and you will notice how Justine got ALL the credit from the Flemish press, and how MANY journalists voted for her as the winner of this competition.
A lot of Flemish athletes defended Ju for not coming to the gala.

I'm sorry, you are often right, but on this occasion you really arn't.


http://www.eurosport.com/tennis/fed-cup/2006/sport_sto928576.shtml

Even you are highlighting the differences between the francophone and flemishes in your own country.

To say that her regional ethnic make-up in Belgium holds no bearing on how she is treated nationally, is simply rubbish.

http://www.europeanvoice.com/archive/article.asp?id=24693

Greenout
Dec 19th, 2006, 06:45 AM
I'm curious.

Why weren't people upset when Kim didn't appear in person to pick up her Sportswoman of the Year award in Belgium in 2000, 2001 and 2002?

Carl Maes accepted for her in 2000, and 2001. Elke went up stage to pick up the award in 2002 for her. Kim only picked up her award in person in 2005.

For the record Justine won in 2003, and was training in Florida and couldn't be there. She showed up in 2004 to picked up her award, and not even on the ballot in 2005 for a single catergory.

?????????????

*Belgium doesn't have the population numbers to expect successful international sports persons like a Justine or Kim every year. Alot of us out of non- Belgians can seriously only name Eddy Mercx, Justine and Kim as great Belgian sportspersons - period.This little miff is really quite useless in the end. Celebrate the greater sports person, but encourage the newers ones or the ones that don't always win, but do not break up from within what great reputation the country has built so far all these year from tennis.

Justine Fan
Dec 19th, 2006, 07:45 AM
I'm curious.

Why weren't people upset when Kim didn't appear in person to pick up her Sportswoman of the Year award in Belgium in 2000, 2001 and 2002?
Carl Maes accepted for her in 2000, and 2001. Elke went up stage to pick up the award in 2002 for her. Kim only picked up her award in person in 2005.

For the record Justine won in 2003, and was training in Florida and couldn't be there. She showed up in 2004 to picked up her award, and not even on the ballot in 2005 for a single catergory.

?????????????

*Belgium doesn't have the population numbers to expect successful international sports persons like a Justine or Kim every year. Alot of us out of non- Belgians can seriously only name Eddy Mercx, Justine and Kim as great Belgian sportspersons - period.This little miff is really quite useless in the end. Celebrate the greater sports person, but encourage the newers ones or the ones that don't always win, but do not break up from within what great reputation the country has built so far all these year from tennis.

Ahhhhhhhh Greeny, good question! People have short memories don't they? I'm sure the Clijsters fans will come up with an excuse, oops, I meant reason :rolleyes:

If you ACT nice and pretend to the world that you are an angel, then people will think that you are, won't they?

Justine is the more successful, they're gonna start on her arn't they? Especially with Leo Clijsters around ........ evil bastard he is!

nicky
Dec 19th, 2006, 09:44 AM
I'm curious.

Why weren't people upset when Kim didn't appear in person to pick up her Sportswoman of the Year award in Belgium in 2000, 2001 and 2002?

Carl Maes accepted for her in 2000, and 2001. Elke went up stage to pick up the award in 2002 for her. Kim only picked up her award in person in 2005.

For the record Justine won in 2003, and was training in Florida and couldn't be there. She showed up in 2004 to picked up her award, and not even on the ballot in 2005 for a single catergory.

Because Kim was in Australia at the time, preparing the new season with her then boyfriend - and I think you may even agree with me it's a very long way to fly just to pick up an award (not to mention the jetlag). I remember that at least on one of these occasions there was a direct sateliteconnection for her interview.
And Greenout, nobody blamed Justine for not being there in 2004 when she was in Florida; nobody expects that kind of effort for an awards ceremony. Monaco OTOH is only a 2 hour flight (if it's that much, they even wanted to charter a plane for her), and sportsman/woman of the year is the most important sportsprize, given by the sportspress. That's why the journalists are so angry, they see it as a direct snub to them.

Personally I think it's a pity she did not show, but it's her decision :shrug:

Josh
Dec 19th, 2006, 10:27 AM
http://www.eurosport.com/tennis/fed-cup/2006/sport_sto928576.shtml

Even you are highlighting the differences between the francophone and flemishes in your own country.

To say that her regional ethnic make-up in Belgium holds no bearing on how she is treated nationally, is simply rubbish.

http://www.europeanvoice.com/archive/article.asp?id=24693

That last link you gave is about French student from FRANCE going to universities in Wallonia because education is cheaper here and they don't need to pass entry exams first. So basically it has nothing to do with tensions between Flemings and Walloons. It's rather about the French students from France and Walloon universities and colleges in Belgium.

angele87
Dec 19th, 2006, 12:11 PM
I'm curious.

Why weren't people upset when Kim didn't appear in person to pick up her Sportswoman of the Year award in Belgium in 2000, 2001 and 2002?

I can't speak for the Belgians, as I don't live there and only know what's going on through journal articles, but in North America, it's not uncommon at all for athletes, actors, musicians, etc... to be absent from awards ceremonies where they are nominated and end up winning. It's never really an issue if somebody isn't able to attend but if somebody sort of boycotts the event, or refuses to go because they're mad about something, then that will probably get mentioned in the media. That seems to be the difference between Kim and Justine not attending... Kim was training/visiting on the other side of the world and Justine was not going to proove a point about the awards last year.

That's just my point of view. I'm sure the real reason is having to do with Kim being the devil though, or perhaps even Kim fans being the devil(s)? It's rather complicated this whole situation, nothing follows a logical path... :confused:

The Crow
Dec 19th, 2006, 12:16 PM
That's just my point of view. I'm sure the real reason is having to do with Kim being the devil though, or perhaps even Kim fans being the devil(s)?

Now you get it :p

<Sven>
Dec 19th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Ahhhhhhhh Greeny, good question! People have short memories don't they? I'm sure the Clijsters fans will come up with an excuse, oops, I meant reason :rolleyes:
lol, well maybe some Clijsters fans will
I'm not going to do that though :p
Kim was in Australia so it's normal that she didn't come and pick up her award
Justine was in Monaco, preparing for the new season, so I also don't blame her for not flying over to Belgium just for an award...
I don't see the reason for all this debating on the subject
(The only reason I posted in this thread before was to react to a poster who said Kirsten and Kim were obviously not happy with Justine winning...)

That said: it's true that Belgians need to honor their champions more.
This time next year, we'll only have one of the two left... So enjoy it while it still lasts...

saki
Dec 19th, 2006, 12:56 PM
I can't speak for the Belgians, as I don't live there and only know what's going on through journal articles, but in North America, it's not uncommon at all for athletes, actors, musicians, etc... to be absent from awards ceremonies where they are nominated and end up winning. It's never really an issue if somebody isn't able to attend but if somebody sort of boycotts the event, or refuses to go because they're mad about something, then that will probably get mentioned in the media. That seems to be the difference between Kim and Justine not attending... Kim was training/visiting on the other side of the world and Justine was not going to proove a point about the awards last year.

:confused: That's just my point of view. I'm sure the real reason is having to do with Kim being the devil though, or perhaps even Kim fans being the devil(s)? It's rather complicated this whole situation, nothing follows a logical path...

That's just speculation. Unless I've missed something, Justine hasn't said anything about 'boycotting' the ceremony, she just didn't go. Which makes it exactly the same thing as anyone else not attending.

Tom13
Dec 19th, 2006, 01:25 PM
According to "La libre Belgique" (a good newspaper), she spends his holliday in Belgium. http://www.lalibre.be/article.phtml?id=2&subid=115&art_id=321350
So she's lying. She's not training in Monaco.

'Le Soir' (a very good newspaper) says she wasn't there because she doesn't accept to have finish only fourth last year. According to them, this is the prove that she has respect for this award and this is important for her.



So, she's not happy because she finishes behind the two Kim and Ann Wauters. She has no respect for the european titles of Kim Gevaert and Ann Wauters. She feels insulted because journalists place her behind Gevaert and Wauters. What an arrogance! If I was either Kim Gevaert or Ann Wauters, I would feel insulted by Hénin. She's a fantastic player but she's not the only belgian sportswoman and she's so mean.

The reaction of Kim Gevaert:
http://www.lalibre.be/article.phtml?id=2&subid=115&art_id=321347

http://www.eurosport.com/tennis/fed-...to928576.shtml

Even you are highlighting the differences between the francophone and flemishes in your own country.

To say that her regional ethnic make-up in Belgium holds no bearing on how she is treated nationally, is simply rubbish.

http://www.europeanvoice.com/archive...e.asp?id=24693

Your article speaks about french students in Belgium. French means people from France and not Belgians who speak french. You don't understand this article. This doesn't concern flemishes.

Tom13
Dec 19th, 2006, 01:34 PM
I can't speak for the Belgians, as I don't live there and only know what's going on through journal articles, but in North America, it's not uncommon at all for athletes, actors, musicians, etc... to be absent from awards ceremonies where they are nominated and end up winning. It's never really an issue if somebody isn't able to attend but if somebody sort of boycotts the event, or refuses to go because they're mad about something, then that will probably get mentioned in the media. That seems to be the difference between Kim and Justine not attending... Kim was training/visiting on the other side of the world and Justine was not going to proove a point about the awards last year.

That's just my point of view. I'm sure the real reason is having to do with Kim being the devil though, or perhaps even Kim fans being the devil(s)? It's rather complicated this whole situation, nothing follows a logical path... :confused:

That's exactly that. If she had a good excuse there would be no discussions but her excuse wasn't true. People have seen her in Belgium during the day and then she says she trains in Monaco. :rolleyes:

pigmalion
Dec 19th, 2006, 01:35 PM
According to "La libre Belgique" (a good newspaper), she spends his holliday in Belgium. http://www.lalibre.be/article.phtml?id=2&subid=115&art_id=321350
So she's lying. She's not training in Monaco.
.

It's true, a friend of mine has seen her Sunday in Durbuy in the skating rink :eek:

explorer
Dec 19th, 2006, 01:38 PM
That's exactly that. If she had a good excuse there would be no discussions but her excuse wasn't true. People have seen her in Belgium during the day and then she says she trains in Monaco. :rolleyes:

When did she say she trained in Monaco?

angele87
Dec 19th, 2006, 01:59 PM
That's just speculation. Unless I've missed something, Justine hasn't said anything about 'boycotting' the ceremony, she just didn't go. Which makes it exactly the same thing as anyone else not attending.

Then she should get the same treatment imo. I thought she was mad about the awards from last year and that's why she didn't go though you're right, perhaps journalists just speculated that as her reason for not going since she was so close to the ceremony. If she just couldn't make it though, no need for this uproar.

saki
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:04 PM
Then she should get the same treatment imo. I thought she was mad about the awards from last year and that's why she didn't go though you're right, perhaps journalists just speculated that as her reason for not going since she was so close to the ceremony. If she just couldn't make it though, no need for this uproar.

I have yet to see a quote from Justine saying that she boycotted it, just lots of comment from Belgian newspapers assuming that that was the reason. I certainly don't think that we should assume that she wasn't just busy.

Tom13
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:08 PM
When did she say she trained in Monaco?

It's the official reason she gave. I don't know when. ;)

"Officiellement, on le sait, pour justifier son refus de répondre positivement à la demande des organisateurs, Justine Henin s'est retranchée derrière le fait qu'elle devait poursuivre son entraînement à Monaco en vue du prochain Open d'Australie. Mais on croit savoir, à l'écoute de témoignages que nous ont fournis certains de nos lecteurs, que, dimanche, Justine Henin a été vue le temps de midi à Han-sur-Lesse et l'après-midi du côté de Durbuy. Loin, donc, de ses bases monégasques."

fifiricci
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Oh God, how these wrangles go on and on and on!

One of the few benefits of Kim retiring will be that these stupid spats between the fans of both players will thankfully come to an end (although I'm not 100% sure of even that) ;)

I say this as a former partaker in (if not starter of :devil: ) these stupid arguments who finally saw the light :angel:

Merry Christmas everybody!!

pigam
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Oh God, how these wrangles go on and on and on!

One of the few benefits of Kim retiring will be that these stupid spats between the fans of both players will thankfully come to an end (although I'm not 100% sure of even that) ;)

I say this as a former partaker in (if not starter of :devil: ) these stupid arguments who finally saw the light :angel:

Merry Christmas everybody!!

:hearts: :hug:

*I feel dirty now ;) *

explorer
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:25 PM
Oh God, how these wrangles go on and on and on!

One of the few benefits of Kim retiring will be that these stupid spats between the fans of both players will thankfully come to an end (although I'm not 100% sure of even that) ;)

I say this as a former partaker in (if not starter of :devil: ) these stupid arguments who finally saw the light :angel:

Merry Christmas everybody!!

and the even more stupid comments from the Belgium journalist.

Another solution, Justine changes the nationality.

I don't understand Blegium, such a big uproar for someone didn't attend an award ceremony.

Merry Christmas.

angele87
Dec 19th, 2006, 02:54 PM
I have yet to see a quote from Justine saying that she boycotted it, just lots of comment from Belgian newspapers assuming that that was the reason. I certainly don't think that we should assume that she wasn't just busy.

You're right. I guess the journalists are going to try and find some other reason than just she was busy where as for Kim she was in Australia so that was an expectable reason not to attend in their eyes. Also I don't know what's true or not about this Monaco thing, but something like that too will certainly interest journalists. Ah well, I don't really care why she didn't go anyway, I just think it's funny such a small thing can cause such trouble. Even if she was boycotting, who cares, her choice :shrug:

saki
Dec 19th, 2006, 03:06 PM
So, she's not happy because she finishes behind the two Kim and Ann Wauters. She has no respect for the european titles of Kim Gevaert and Ann Wauters. She feels insulted because journalists place her behind Gevaert and Wauters. What an arrogance! If I was either Kim Gevaert or Ann Wauters, I would feel insulted by Hénin. She's a fantastic player but she's not the only belgian sportswoman and she's so mean.


Justine says on her official site, " I realize that it was a close race with Kim(Geavaert) and Tia having a fabulous 2006 season, and like everyone else in Belgium I was excited watching them on television winning in Gothenburg. I want to use this opportunity to congratulate them, thank you girls for giving such great sporting and emotional moments. It was fantastic to see both of you win medals at such an important event."

Also.. "I wish good luck to Tia, (to both) Kims, Kirsten and with all the sportsmen, known or unknown, who are impassioned by their sport for the coming year in 2007."

I'm failing to see the disrespect here.

Tom13
Dec 19th, 2006, 03:13 PM
and the even more stupid comments from the Belgium journalist.

Another solution, Justine changes the nationality.

I don't understand Blegium, such a big uproar for someone didn't attend an award ceremony.

Merry Christmas.

There isn't a big uproar. Two newspapers criticize her among all other newspapers and televisions. That's why there is a discussion, because everybody do not agree. That certainly doesn't make the headlines.

And anyway, she says she can't come because she trains in Monaco and then she appears the same day in one of the most touristic place of this country. :lol:

Tom13
Dec 19th, 2006, 03:16 PM
Justine says on her official site, " I realize that it was a close race with Kim(Geavaert) and Tia having a fabulous 2006 season, and like everyone else in Belgium I was excited watching them on television winning in Gothenburg. I want to use this opportunity to congratulate them, thank you girls for giving such great sporting and emotional moments. It was fantastic to see both of you win medals at such an important event."

Also.. "I wish good luck to Tia, (to both) Kims, Kirsten and with all the sportsmen, known or unknown, who are impassioned by their sport for the coming year in 2007."

I'm failing to see the disrespect here.

Yes I have read this also.

Allez-H
Dec 19th, 2006, 07:59 PM
Yes I have read this also.

Yet you failed to mention it in an earlier post where you say she has no respect whatsoever for her fellow country-mates? Talk about being two-faced ..


Anywayz, Justine actually also was critisized heavily when she didn't show up in 2003 (when she was training in Florida). So yeah, she'll get shit any time ... No biggie

Justine Fan
Dec 19th, 2006, 10:29 PM
:hearts: :hug:

*I feel dirty now ;) *

I bet you do ....... you must need a long hot shower to get rid of all that :tape:

Justine Fan
Dec 19th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Who cares what they think! I'm sure if JuJu did, she would have changed her schedule wouldn't she? She would have gone instead of having other arrangements!

Strange isn't it that a poster states that Justine didn't have any respect about the other two Belgian sports stars, but hasn't mentioned anything since reading Justine's statement? Typical :ras:

hu2891601
Dec 19th, 2006, 10:41 PM
well, after all the endless controversies year after year, i think... my conclusion is that Justine was born in the wrong country, lol, no offense to any of you Belgium posters. I'm just thinking that with Justine's achievements, if she's in US, people will treat her as godness!!

Mileen
Dec 21st, 2006, 01:52 AM
Apparently, you don't know how she is treated in Belgium. I hear a lot of stuff written here by posters, that is made up and fantasized. Unfortunately, people speak without being well informed. But that's life. For instance, there is no a-priori schism between Justine versus Kim fans, and Kim fans who would be jealous about Justine winning the award, not at all. In Belgium there is no schism at all between them. That's a fantasy from the outside world. They're both treated with the same proud. And they're both fully experienced as Belgians. Every flanders or wallonian concept here is totally out of context and nothing more than a reflection of having completely misunderstood the superficial language distinction. There are no two fan camps in Belgium.
It really goes too far to say Justine should have been born in another country - ridiculous the longer I think about it, and I think it's really offensive towards Belgium. It almost seems like you're drawn into a tendency to judge negatively about Belgium, just because one person started that. Like it would be alowed. Please, keep real. And don't offend Belgium. Belgium is a terrific country! Of course Belgium can handle Justine. Of course she's born in her own country. By the way, Davenport hasn't been treated like a queen by the US, despite she won slams and had a terrific career.

You don't hear the Belgian commentators speak when they comment on Justine's matches. You don't hear the Belgian news when either of the Belgian girls have won a tournament. You don't read the Belgian newspapers.
If you would here that, you would hear the love, the pride, the excitement (I can't wait till the tennis season starts again, now that I remember the excitement!), .... the everything, when it's about Justine or Kim.

Mileen
Dec 21st, 2006, 01:58 AM
It's true, a friend of mine has seen her Sunday in Durbuy in the skating rink :eek:

wow, I wish I had friends who had seen her! haha :lol: Just to say tussen neus en lippen door: well, I have a friend who has seen her, like it's the most normal thing in the world. :) :)

Mileen
Dec 21st, 2006, 01:59 AM
Curious...what language do they use in these Belgian award ceremonies....and what if the winner only speaks either French or Flemish only?

They use both languages. Both languages understand the other language.

Mileen
Dec 21st, 2006, 02:09 AM
http://www.europeanvoice.com/archive/article.asp?id=24693

What does this have to do with anything? I am really beginning to doubt your motives. What kind of hatred poster are you? What's your mission in life? You're crazy.

Mileen
Dec 21st, 2006, 02:22 AM
Well, she took enough time out a couple of days ago to accept her UNESCO award, which is an international designation and much more prestigious award than anything Belgium has to offer.

Given the options, I'm sure her training took priority and rightfully so. ;)

You don't deserve to be a Justine fan. Justine is a very well thought through person. You're obviously not. You're saying things lately, that are completely invalid and make no sense at all. Justine doesn't even like the US. She sure doesn't like a fan who talks and thinks with such a negative attitude, about her own country! I don't understand why you are doing that. This is just a nice forum, where we can share our passion for tennis, where we can share our excitement about matches. Where we can feel we are watching matches together with many other people from all over the world.

explorer
Dec 21st, 2006, 10:33 AM
Apparently, you don't know how she is treated in Belgium. I hear a lot of stuff written here by posters, that is made up and fantasized. Unfortunately, people speak without being well informed. But that's life. For instance, there is no a-priori schism between Justine versus Kim fans, and Kim fans who would be jealous about Justine winning the award, not at all. In Belgium there is no schism at all between them. That's a fantasy from the outside world. They're both treated with the same proud. And they're both fully experienced as Belgians. Every flanders or wallonian concept here is totally out of context and nothing more than a reflection of having completely misunderstood the superficial language distinction. There are no two fan camps in Belgium.
It really goes too far to say Justine should have been born in another country - ridiculous the longer I think about it, and I think it's really offensive towards Belgium. It almost seems like you're drawn into a tendency to judge negatively about Belgium, just because one person started that. Like it would be alowed. Please, keep real. And don't offend Belgium. Belgium is a terrific country! Of course Belgium can handle Justine. Of course she's born in her own country. By the way, Davenport hasn't been treated like a queen by the US, despite she won slams and had a terrific career.

You don't hear the Belgian commentators speak when they comment on Justine's matches. You don't hear the Belgian news when either of the Belgian girls have won a tournament. You don't read the Belgian newspapers.
If you would here that, you would hear the love, the pride, the excitement (I can't wait till the tennis season starts again, now that I remember the excitement!), .... the everything, when it's about Justine or Kim.
I know it's the Belgium media accused her of doping after 2003 USO, as it made the headlines of all major international media/press, so even I don't live in Belgium, I know this one and how can you say Kim and Justine are treated exactly the same?

Kim went to Fed Cup final to support the team and was allowed and welcomed, Justine went to Fed Cup semi to support the team but was turned off, do you think this is the same treatment? And I don think this is made up by posters here as Carlos put an offical statement on Justine website and told people what happend, and then later the Fed Cup captain admitted it.

You are right that people outside Belgium don't live in Belgium so not in a good position to comment on whatever happens in Belgium.

By the same token, you are not live outside Belgium so you don't know what's the people's perception of Belgium in other countries, some posters may offend Belgium but that's what their perception.

Mileen
Dec 21st, 2006, 11:45 AM
I think it was a bad decision the captain (fed cup) made. I was sitting in the audiance then, and was very disappointed Justine wasn't there, so were the people around me. It was a total "mis-estimate" the public wouldn't understand she didn't play. That was his reason. Plus he didn't want anything to happen what could distract the team. Did you know that? She wasn't turned off. If different things happen with & to different persons, it doesn't mean they are treated differently apriori. You also "treat" different people differently. That has nothing to do with Justine (systematically) being maltreated or with lesser respect or pride, or whatever you want, than Kim. She isn't even lesser loved. I, for instance, don't think she is introvert or not nice. So doesn't Belgium. Justine is very sweet, also intelligent. She is known for being intelligent, and a well thought through person; we judge better informed, and with more understanding most of all. She reads philosophy, for instance. I mean, that kind of detail is what I mean. There are not many posters, except for her fans, who know this I think. Nor do they hear trainer's commentary how she works and is etc. There is no difference in feeling and treatment between them. I love Justine and Kim both. And am thrilled when any of them wins. If one of them loses, I'm lucky I still can passionately support the other player from my own country. If one of them doesn't play a tournament, I am lucky the other player attends. If they're in different halfs of the draw, I am lucky I can watch tennis (with even passion and excitement) during a slam, each day (instead of having to wait a day).
And about the captain's mistake, I see it in the same line as we humans in our era are too controlling, instead of going along with nature ('s laws). We're constantly trying to influence, manipulate and prevent things. I sincerely regretted his decision for this reason, and of course for the unfortunate outcome Justine was eventually turned down, but not intrinsically. That's what most people don't get. That's the big nuance I mean. Finally, the US for instance is also treating different players differently (Davenport and the Sisters), so are Switserland (Hingis and Patty) and Russia (Kuznetsova against the others). It's all a "difference in treatment" in the normal and automatic sense of the word. If you overgenerate this to a fundamental or intrinsic or systematic level, you're wrong. And perception of Belgium? Sure! Every country has an image. And different countries have a different perception of a country. You're making a too big of a fuss.

Mileen
Dec 21st, 2006, 11:53 AM
O, and I forgot to tell: the Belgium media didn't accuse her of doping. It was the stupid behavior of Kim's father. He was out of order. Should have known (and cared) better (more) to shut his mouth, should have realized he is a public person and you're not allowed to say anything you think or fantisize in this case. Because the accusation was completely unfounded, invalid. She had trained a lot.