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lizchris
Nov 24th, 2006, 12:55 AM
'Kramer' Apologizes, Hires Crisis Expert


By SOLVEJ SCHOU
AP

LOS ANGELES (Nov. 23) -- First he went on national television to apologize for his racial tirade against two black hecklers. Now Michael Richards is taking his contriteness to the next level: he's hired a public relations expert with deep contacts in the black community.

New York publicist Howard Rubenstein took on Richards as a client Wednesday after being contacted by the actor-comedian. He then arranged for Richards to call the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

"I've known those gentlemen for many years," Rubenstein told The Associated Press.

"Michael apologized profusely. He wants to heal the tremendous wound that he's inflicted on the American public, and on the African-American community," he said.

Jackson, reached by phone, said Richards called "expressing his remorse and his confusion."

"He's embarrassed. He got caught on tape. That's a big part of his anxiety now," said Jackson.

"Clearly he needs some race sensibility training, and some psychiatric help. His anger is volatile and dangerous to himself and others," Jackson said. "I hope he gets the help he needs. But the culture that's producing this kind of animosity toward blacks must be addressed. ... We're increasingly facing cultural isolation in Hollywood, in the movies and in TV."

Jackson added, "We have to evaluate the use of the n-word and categorize it as hate speech, no matter who uses it."

Calls to Sharpton's home and to his National Action Network on Wednesday were not returned.

Richards, who played the kooky neighbor Kramer on the TV show "Seinfeld," lashed out at the hecklers last week during a performance at West Hollywood's Laugh Factory. A video of his rant then appeared on TMZ.com.

In a subsequent satellite appearance on David Letterman's "Late Show," Richards said his remarks were fueled by anger, not bigotry.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People said in a statement Wednesday that the tirade and anti-Semitic comments by Mel Gibson (http://javascript<b></b>:;) earlier this year point to a pervasive trend in American culture, and that Richards' declaration "is indicative of the type of denial that too often accompanies racist rhetoric."

Rubenstein, whose media relations firm specializes in "crisis management" according to the firm's Web site, said he had never met or spoken to Richards before the actor called him.

Clients of Rubenstein's firm include Amazon.com, the New York Yankees, ABC Inc., Walt Disney Co., Time Inc., News Corp., Columbia University, the NAACP Image Awards and Bloomberg L.P., according to the Web site.

"I've been very involved in the African-American community for 25 to 30 years," Rubenstein said. "It would be a tragedy if this exacerbated our race relations. I hope I can help. ... It's always been an effort on my part to improve African-American and Jewish ethnic relations."

As for reports that Richards shouted out anti-Semitic remarks during another standup comedy routine in April, Rubenstein confirmed his client did, but that he was only role-playing.

"He's Jewish. He's not anti-Semitic at all. He was role-playing, he was playing a part. He did use inappropriate language, but he doesn't have any anti-Semitic feelings whatsoever," Rubenstein said.


Copyright 2006 The Associated Press

CoolDude7
Nov 24th, 2006, 01:08 AM
The only way for him to recover from this is to seek help for his "racial illness" issue that he has. Make it known worldwide that he is seeking help. Come be the frontrunner for other people who may have the same problem. Tell the world that it is a sick illness, and is not tolerable or justifiable

harloo
Nov 24th, 2006, 01:11 AM
:rolleyes: :o Ewww...Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton please go away. Your services aren't needed.:lol:

Rocketta
Nov 24th, 2006, 02:11 AM
:rolleyes: :o Ewww...Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton please go away. Your services aren't needed.:lol:

um, maybe this PR guy isn't as high Powered as they say because he should know their influence is down to the bare minimum these days. :lol:

hingisGOAT
Nov 24th, 2006, 02:27 AM
seriously, WHO FUCKING CARES?

it's kramer.

sadly his career is bigger NOW than it has been in a decade because of, not in spite of, this incident.

disposablehero
Nov 24th, 2006, 03:09 AM
cooldude and heylook are dancing around the solution, but they haven't quite missed it.

This is Kramer's big opportunity. His career was done before this happened, maybe the bitterness contributed to it. Now his career is just extra-done. It's the opportunity to find something different.

If he wants to do something useful with his life, he should say "Yes, I am a racist. But I'm going to fix it." Then he should quit show business and become a full-time advocate for one of the major groups that promote racial tolerance. Maybe donate a few of his millions to make better schools in Compton.

If he's going to spend his millions on consultants to help him get back a career he lost 7 years ago, he might just as well set the bills on fire.

Wigglytuff
Nov 24th, 2006, 03:43 AM
:rolleyes: :o Ewww...Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton please go away. Your services aren't needed.:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

spokenword73
Nov 24th, 2006, 03:54 AM
:rolleyes: :o Ewww...Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton please go away. Your services aren't needed.:lol:

Kramer called them. :o
What could either one of them do for him anyway? Gloria Allred is on Kramer's tail. God help him.:bounce:

harloo
Nov 24th, 2006, 04:03 AM
um, maybe this PR guy isn't as high Powered as they say because he should know their influence is down to the bare minimum these days. :lol:

I bet this guy told Richards ,"You have to call Jesse and Al to help salvage your career, they can save you from the angy blacks". :lol:

dementieva's fan
Nov 24th, 2006, 04:12 AM
People should atleast give him a chance rather than immediately associating him with KKK :rolleyes:

LoveFifteen
Nov 24th, 2006, 04:31 AM
Good Lord, through the syndication of Seinfeld alone, Richards should be raking in millions of dollars per year! He's 60 years old. It's time to retire. It's not like he has a career worth salvaging anyway.

He should just vanish and go live in a place where there are no people who've ever heard of Seinfeld.

Rocketta
Nov 24th, 2006, 04:32 AM
People should atleast give him a chance rather than immediately associating him with KKK :rolleyes:

people should give him a chance to do 'what' exactly? People should give him a chance to actually lynch somebody before you associate him with the KKK??? People should give him a chance to at least call the black people in his audience coons and remind them that 50 years ago a white man could rape a black woman if he felt like it before we associate him with the KKK???

Exactly what are we suppose to give him a 2nd chance at? :rolleyes:

LoveFifteen
Nov 24th, 2006, 04:51 AM
people should give him a chance to do 'what' exactly? People should give him a chance to actually lynch somebody before you associate him with the KKK??? People should give him a chance to at least call the black people in his audience coons and remind them that 50 years ago a white man could rape a black woman if he felt like it before we associate him with the KKK???

Exactly what are we suppose to give him a 2nd chance at? :rolleyes:

I agree with you 100%. I am so tired of all this "reaching out for forgiveness and reconciliation" bullshit. It's the same thing with Mel Gibson. I am not about to even think about forgiving someone who is such a liar in his "apology".

"I am not a racist," "I am not an anti-Semite," "That wasn't me speaking, it was the rage/alcohol," etc.

I am tired of those BS apologies. They got exposed for who they really are, and I have no sympathy.

Rocketta
Nov 24th, 2006, 05:02 AM
I agree with you 100%. I am so tired of all this "reaching out for forgiveness and reconciliation" bullshit. It's the same thing with Mel Gibson. I am not about to even think about forgiving someone who is such a liar in his "apology".

"I am not a racist," "I am not an anti-Semite," "That wasn't me speaking, it was the rage/alcohol," etc.

I am tired of those BS apologies. They got exposed for who they really are, and I have no sympathy.

Yeah maybe we should give Mel a second chance at the whole drunk driving thing.....maybe the next time he'll hit and kill a jew and then he can be called a racist. :help:

Lord Nelson
Nov 24th, 2006, 12:27 PM
Yeah maybe we should give Mel a second chance at the whole drunk driving thing.....maybe the next time he'll hit and kill a jew and then he can be called a racist. :help:

He may be antisemite but he is not racist. A lot of Jews are white like Mel. Anyway in France there are actors who are far more anti semite than Mel. There is this black actor called Dieudonné and he absolutely hates Jews. He even attended the rally of Front National, the extreme right party where its leader at times made anti Jewish comments.

Dieudonné M'bala M'bala, generally known simply as Dieudonné (born 1966 in Fontenay-aux-Roses near Paris to a woman from Brittany and an African father from Cameroon) is a controversial French comedian who claims to be politically anti-racist, but who has been often accused of being anti-semitic.

Dieudonné started his career performing with French Jewish comedian Elie Semoun before going solo in 1997. His first shows (such as Patrick's Divorce) gained him a considerable success, but his controversial quotes and sketches in which he blamed all monotheistic religions started to make him a growing number of enemies. In the introduction to a March 2006 interview, The Independent called him a "French Louis Farrakhan... obsessed with Jews".[1]

He has been the subject of legal proceedings for "apologie d'actes de terrorisme" (justifying terrorist acts) after 9/11. Thus, in the French monthly L'Écho des savanes, he referred to Osama bin Laden as the "most important personality in contemporary history [, because he] stands alone against the biggest power in the world[. O]bviously, it calls for respect. I prefer bin Laden's charisma to that of George Bush".

He has also been the object of attention for alleged anti-Jewish hate speech. Among other things, he called the observance of the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz "memorial pornography", and referred to the French Jewish organization CRIF as "an anti-constitutional cult" and "a mafia that controls everything in France".

In December 2003, he made an appearance on live television dressed as a Haredi Jew and urged Muslims to convert to the "American-Israeli axis of good" if they wanted a place in this society. Dieudonné finished the show by giving the traditional Nazi salute and exclaiming "Isra-Heil!". He was accused of violating French laws against incitation to racial or religious hatred, but in 2004, a Paris court ruled that he did not violate the law.

Dieudonné's defenders point out that the result of the various legal proceedings is that there has been no final conviction on any criminal charges, after appeals. His penchant for attracting controversy has made many TV channels and venues reluctant to book him.

In December 2005, he was in the news for losing a lawsuit to prevent an unflattering biography from being reprinted,[2] and for announcing his candidacy for the 2007 presidential elections. The subsequently created webpage for his official presidential candidacy regularly features articles by the notorious Holocaust-denier Serge Thion (under the transparent pseudonym "Serge Noith")

On February 11, 2006, he participated in the Parisian "march of angry Muslims" against the Muhammad cartoons.

On March 10, 2006, a Paris court sentenced him to a €5,000 fine for having alleged in an interview (published in February 2004) that "those Jews that criticise me are all former slave-merchants who now control the media and the banks".[3]

In May 2006, he gave a lengthy interview to the far-right monthly Le Choc du mois [4].

On June 14, 2006, he was sentenced to a total of 4,500 € fine (3,000 + 1,500) for libel, having accused a prominent Jewish TV-show host of "actively financing the Israeli army".[5]

timafi
Nov 24th, 2006, 12:52 PM
you got something against the French don't you?:rolleyes:

as for Kramer,I don't care if he hires the mother fucking POPE,fact to the matter his,he's a fucking biggot and he'll remain just that in my eyes and in the eyes of many many people:mad:

Lord Nelson
Nov 24th, 2006, 01:05 PM
you got something against the French don't you?:rolleyes:

as for Kramer,I don't care if he hires the mother fucking POPE,fact to the matter his,he's a fucking biggot and he'll remain just that in my eyes and in the eyes of many many people:mad:

I live 2 min. away from France am fluent in French and love French culture so no I am not. But thank you for those words of wisdom. :rolleyes:

Sam L
Nov 24th, 2006, 01:10 PM
There is this black actor called Dieudonné and he absolutely hates Jews. He even attended the rally of Front National, the extreme right party where its leader at times made anti Jewish comments.

Dieudonné M'bala M'bala, generally known simply as Dieudonné (born 1966 in Fontenay-aux-Roses near Paris to a woman from Brittany and an African father from Cameroon) is a controversial French comedian who claims to be politically anti-racist, but who has been often accused of being anti-semitic.

Wow. :rolleyes:

Meteor Shower
Nov 24th, 2006, 01:38 PM
There is not excuse to what he said.
If he can't control himself then he shouldn't be allowed to be out on the street, simple as that.

mykarma
Nov 24th, 2006, 01:40 PM
[QUOTE]He may be antisemite but he is not racist.
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

A lot of Jews are white like Mel. Anyway in France there are actors who are far more anti semite than Mel.
And you point is?
There is this black actor called Dieudonné and he absolutely hates Jews.
What does the above racist have to do with Richards or Gibson?

Kunal
Nov 24th, 2006, 01:46 PM
desperate times call for desperate measures

Lord Nelson
Nov 24th, 2006, 02:03 PM
[quote=Lord Nelson;9538768]
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:


And you point is?

What does the above racist have to do with Richards or Gibson?

There are not only Americans on this site you know. I talked about Dieudonné to show that here in Europe actors can also be openly racist or anti semitic. Oh I can throw back the question at you. What does Mel Gibson have to do with this topic which it is about Richards? If one can mention Mel than I can talk about Dieudonné who has repeatingly made anti semitic comments.

Ryan
Nov 24th, 2006, 02:35 PM
Speaking of the KKK...the cartoon guy for my newspaper drew an amazing sketch of Kramer, with his pointy hair, holding a KKK hat and saying something like "finally, a hat that fits...". I died.

Knizzle
Nov 24th, 2006, 02:45 PM
death @ KKKramer. :haha:

mykarma
Nov 24th, 2006, 03:04 PM
[quote=mykarma;9539137]

There are not only Americans on this site you know. I talked about Dieudonné to show that here in Europe actors can also be openly racist or anti semitic. Oh I can throw back the question at you. What does Mel Gibson have to do with this topic which it is about Richards? If one can mention Mel than I can talk about Dieudonné who has repeatingly made anti semitic comments.
Of course that's the reason you posted that particular post. :lol::tape: I know you don't think that people on this board, believe that racism and bigotry only exist in America. You posted Dieudonne entire life for us to read including who his mama and daddy is.

The fact remains that no matter what color he is, he's a biggoted, racist fool, just like Kramer and Gibson. Oh, but, you probably don't think he's a bigot or racist just because he's anti semantic.

Lord Nelson
Nov 24th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Of course that's the reason you posted that particular post. :lol::tape: I know you don't think that people on this board, believe that racism and bigotry only exist in America. You posted Dieudonne entire life for us to read including who his mama and daddy is.

The fact remains that no matter what color he is, he's a biggoted, racist fool, just like Kramer and Gibson. Oh, but, you probably don't think he's a bigot or racist just because he's anti semantic.

The only one who is complaining on what I posted is you. Judaism is a religion not a race. Same goes with Christianity and Islam. If one insults the people of these faiths they cannot be deemed racist. Anti sematism to me is not the samething as racism but we all have our own opinions. To me what Gibson, Dieudonné and Richard did were all bad.

My feeling is that the only reason you are complaining about me posting that post is because my it shows a black actor making racist comments. So to you it is ok to talk about Gibson and Richards but all of a sudden you get defensive when I talk about this actor. Relax, he is also half white. Happy? :rolleyes:

Dieudonné has a lot in common with Richards. They are both comedians and stand up comics and videos were shown of both of them making these unacceptable comments. That is why I posted about him. He is pretty well known in Francophone countries.

Apoleb
Nov 24th, 2006, 06:19 PM
Anti sematism to me is not the samething as racism but we all have our own opinions.

A nice display of ignorance. Hatred of Jews i.e anti-Semitism ofcourse can be a racial level, among other things. That's why the word "anti-Semitism" was coined in the first place.

Lord Nelson
Nov 24th, 2006, 06:22 PM
A nice display of ignorance. Hatred of Jews i.e anti-Semitism ofcourse can be a racial level, among other things. That's why the word "anti-Semitism" was coined in the first place.
What about hatred of Christians and Muslims then? Could it also be considered racial?

Apoleb
Nov 24th, 2006, 06:25 PM
What about hatred of Christians and Muslims then? Could it also be considered racial?

A lot of times racism touches with hostility against Christianity and Islam. In Judasim however, the confusion is a lot stronger, and most of the time anti-Semitism happens to be racism too. That's why it's called anti-Semitism.

Stamp Paid
Nov 24th, 2006, 06:39 PM
What about hatred of Christians and Muslims then? Could it also be considered racial?

Isn't Jewish an ethnic group AND a religion?

Lord Nelson
Nov 24th, 2006, 07:01 PM
Isn't Jewish an ethnic group AND a religion?

Yessssssssssssss, Eureka!!!!!!!!! King finally answered me. I was going crazy with all those pms. I won!!!!! :lol:

lizchris
Nov 24th, 2006, 07:52 PM
People should atleast give him a chance rather than immediately associating him with KKK :rolleyes:


Um, it has been rumored that he has given money to white supremecy groups via the Internet.

lizchris
Nov 24th, 2006, 07:57 PM
Good Lord, through the syndication of Seinfeld alone, Richards should be raking in millions of dollars per year! He's 60 years old. It's time to retire. It's not like he has a career worth salvaging anyway.

He should just vanish and go live in a place where there are no people who've ever heard of Seinfeld.

He should, but he, nor Julia Louis-Dreyfus or Jason Alexander, are raking in anything from the syndication money the show "Seinfeld" is making because when they signed their final deal before the show went off the air, they waived their rights to syndication and videio (now DVD) sales money in exchange for getting $600,000/episode.

lizchris
Nov 24th, 2006, 08:13 PM
people should give him a chance to do 'what' exactly? People should give him a chance to actually lynch somebody before you associate him with the KKK??? People should give him a chance to at least call the black people in his audience coons and remind them that 50 years ago a white man could rape a black woman if he felt like it before we associate him with the KKK???

Exactly what are we suppose to give him a 2nd chance at? :rolleyes:


I'm surprised that he didn't say that.

BWT, than you Rocketta for reminding people that this is what happeend to black women years ago. Many people (mostly whites) refuse to admit that this sort of thing happened, until you ask them to explain all of those racially mixed children who were conceivvd as a result of those rapes.

Lord Nelson
Nov 24th, 2006, 08:22 PM
He should, but he, nor Julia Louis-Dreyfus or Jason Alexander, are raking in anything from the syndication money the show "Seinfeld" is making because when they signed their final deal before the show went off the air, they waived their rights to syndication and videio (now DVD) sales money in exchange for getting $600,000/episode.

Julia does not need the money, she is a billionaire.

lizchris
Nov 24th, 2006, 09:09 PM
Julia does not need the money, she is a billionaire.


I don't know if she is a billionaire, but I know she is very rich because of her stepfather.

Kart
Nov 24th, 2006, 09:17 PM
From what little I've read about this topic, it seems to me this guy ought to save his money.

The only good PR this agent is going to be able to provide him is with white separatist extremist groups.

Stamp Paid
Nov 24th, 2006, 09:30 PM
Yessssssssssssss, Eureka!!!!!!!!! King finally answered me. I was going crazy with all those pms. I won!!!!! :lol:

LOL wha??? :confused:

Lord Nelson
Nov 24th, 2006, 09:50 PM
I don't know if she is a billionaire, but I know she is very rich because of her stepfather.
Gérard Louis-Dreyfus & family 170
72 , inherited
Source: commodities

Net Worth: $3.2 bil up

Country of citizenship: France
Residence: New York, NY, United States
Industry: Oil/Gas
Marital Status: married , 3 children
Duke University
Duke University, Doctor of Jurisprudence

From offices in New York and Paris, runs the family's Louis-Dreyfus Group, a diversified commodities, energy, shipping, real estate, manufacturing and communications conglomerate. Energy division acquired a natural gas pipeline in West Texas from Exxon Mobil subsidiaries last April. Property group sold its 100,000 square foot office building Sutton Park in upstate New York to Diamond Properties in June. Also reorganized French telecom LDCom to unite its various activities under the Neuf Telecom brand. Educated in the U.S., with undergraduate and law degrees from Duke University, Louis-Dreyfus has spent a good portion of his life outside France. A very private man with a passion for poetry, Louis-Dreyfus is perhaps best known in the U.S. as father of actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus, who portrayed Elaine on Seinfeld.

www.forbes.com/static/bill2005/LIRDDGH.html?p...

darrinbaker00
Nov 25th, 2006, 02:09 AM
He should, but he, nor Julia Louis-Dreyfus or Jason Alexander, are raking in anything from the syndication money the show "Seinfeld" is making because when they signed their final deal before the show went off the air, they waived their rights to syndication and videio (now DVD) sales money in exchange for getting $600,000/episode.
STOO-PID!!

Wigglytuff
Nov 25th, 2006, 02:19 AM
STOO-PID!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: you read my mind!!! :worship: :worship: :worship:

darrinbaker00
Nov 25th, 2006, 02:35 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: you read my mind!!! :worship: :worship: :worship:
They sold their futures for a quick buck, and look at them now. Louis-Dreyfus is on her second bad sitcom, Alexander has already bombed out twice, and Richards just committed career suicide. By contrast, Kelsey Grammer gets TWO fat residual checks in the mail every week, and works whenever he darn well pleases.

lizchris
Nov 25th, 2006, 03:25 AM
They sold their futures for a quick buck, and look at them now. Louis-Dreyfus is on her second bad sitcom, Alexander has already bombed out twice, and Richards just committed career suicide. By contrast, Kelsey Grammer gets TWO fat residual checks in the mail every week, and works whenever he darn well pleases.

It has been established by Lord Nelson that Julia doens't really need the Seinfeld money.

Kelsey is not olny getting residuals, but he is also getting rich from producing "Girlfriends".

darrinbaker00
Nov 25th, 2006, 05:29 AM
It has been established by Lord Nelson that Julia doens't really need the Seinfeld money.

Kelsey is not olny getting residuals, but he is also getting rich from producing "Girlfriends".
If Lord Nelson said that two plus two equals four, I'd go get a calculator. ;)

Wigglytuff
Nov 25th, 2006, 08:39 AM
If Lord Nelson said that two plus two equals four, I'd go get a calculator. ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

actually if he said 2+2=4 i would go get a moderator because clearly someone must have stolen his account :lol: :lol: :lol: :devil: :devil: :devil:

Lord Nelson
Nov 25th, 2006, 01:00 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

actually if he said 2+2=4 i would go get a moderator because clearly someone must have stolen his account :lol: :lol: :lol: :devil: :devil: :devil:

:lol: I love how you pretend that I am on your ignore list when previously no one had quoted my messages and so there was no way you could have read my posts. You even took the effort to make me believe that I was on your ignore list when clearly one can easily edit messages to proof your point. You make me laugh Puff and you will never be on my ignore list. I have too much fun with you and things won't be the same if I could not read your posts. :wavey:

Stamp Paid
Nov 25th, 2006, 06:59 PM
Paul Mooney's take on it. LOL!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9cuX2uYOi4g

mykarma
Nov 25th, 2006, 07:25 PM
If Lord Nelson said that two plus two equals four, I'd go get a calculator. ;)
:haha::haha::haha:

mykarma
Nov 25th, 2006, 07:30 PM
:lol: I love how you pretend that I am on your ignore list when previously no one had quoted my messages and so there was no way you could have read my posts. You even took the effort to make me believe that I was on your ignore list when clearly one can easily edit messages to proof your point. You make me laugh Puff and you will never be on my ignore list. I have too much fun with you and things won't be the same if I could not read your posts. :wavey:
In case you ever want to say anything about you being on my ignore list. You were on my ignore list, but I took you off when there was a debate about Buddhism. Now I only have one person on my list and that is dear old Erika.

mykarma
Nov 25th, 2006, 07:34 PM
Paul Mooney's take on it. LOL!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9cuX2uYOi4g
I liked his joke.

darrinbaker00
Nov 25th, 2006, 07:39 PM
Paul Mooney's take on it. LOL!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9cuX2uYOi4g
"Racial Humor 101" by Paul Mooney. Guaranteed #1 best-seller. ;)

Wigglytuff
Nov 25th, 2006, 07:53 PM
"Racial Humor 101" by Paul Mooney. Guaranteed #1 best-seller. ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :worship: :worship:

mykarma
Nov 25th, 2006, 08:07 PM
T[quote]he only one who is complaining on what I posted is you. Judaism is a religion not a race. Same goes with Christianity and Islam. If one insults the people of these faiths they cannot be deemed racist. Anti sematism to me is not the samething as racism but we all have our own opinions. To me what Gibson, Dieudonné and Richard did were all bad. :bs::rolleyes:

My feeling is that the only reason you are complaining about me posting that post is because my it shows a black actor making racist comments. So to you it is ok to talk about Gibson and Richards but all of a sudden you get defensive when I talk about this actor. Relax, he is also half white. Happy?I've already answer that in my first reply to you. For some reason you seemed to think that posting something about a black racist would make Richards or Gibson look better. Well guess what, it doesn't.

Lord Nelson
Nov 25th, 2006, 09:15 PM
[quote=Mykarma;9540441]I've already answer that in my first reply to you. For some reason you seemed to think that posting something about a black racist would make Richards or Gibson look better. Well guess what, it doesn't.
You are doing it on purpose admit it? I posted about Dieudonné because he could be compared with Richards. But a simpleton like you does not realize that and thinks I just posted it just to belittle the black race. To me Dieudonné is as bad as Richards and Gibson not worse, not better. How many times do you want me to say that? In case you don't know I am neither black nor white. I am from India and if there was an Indian racist comedian that I know I would posted about him too. Jeez try and think next time. If Dieudonné was white (well he is half white) I would have posted about him too. One would think that to you only white people can be viewed as racists. :rolleyes:

Rocketta
Nov 25th, 2006, 09:41 PM
[quote=mykarma;9545250]
You are doing it on purpose admit it? I posted about Dieudonné because he could be compared with Richards. But a simpleton like you does not realize that and thinks I just posted it just to belittle the black race. To me Dieudonné is as bad as Richards and Gibson not worse, not better. How many times do you want me to say that? In case you don't know I am neither black nor white. I am from India and if there was an Indian racist comedian that I know I would posted about him too. Jeez try and think next time. If Dieudonné was white (well he is half white) I would have posted about him too. One would think that to you only white people can be viewed as racists. :rolleyes:

or you might think she expects a thread about Kramer would stay about Kramer. :shrug:

Lord Nelson
Nov 25th, 2006, 09:55 PM
[quote=Lord Nelson;9545590]

or you might think she expects a thread about Kramer would stay about Kramer. :shrug:

True, but I was comparing him with Kramer. Others were comparing Kramer with Gibson. I picked him to show how racist or anti semetic stand up comics like Dieudonné ended up like in other nations. His career was perpetually tarnished but he does not seem to care. Funny thing was that he worked or was friends with many Jewish comedians such as Alain Chabat, Ellie Semoun etc.. Him and Richards should meet up.They will have a lot of interesting things to talk about. :lol:

Rocketta
Nov 25th, 2006, 09:57 PM
True, but I was comparing him with Kramer. Others were comparing Kramer with Gibson. I picked him to show how racist or anti semetic stand up comics like Dieudonné ended up like in other nations. His career was perpetually tarnished but he does not seem to care. Funny thing was that he worked or was friends with many Jewish comedians such as Alain Chabat, Ellie Semoun etc.. Him and Richards should meet up.They will have a lot of interesting things to talk about. :lol:

possible she was thinking no one cares in the context of this thread?

mykarma
Nov 26th, 2006, 03:55 AM
possible she was thinking no one cares in the context of this thread?
Rocketta, thanks for responding to Lord Nelson. I was responding to him but it was mean so I decided to just leave it alone. No matter what I say,he'll try and turn it around,even if it means he has to change the subject.
:worship::worship::worship:

darrinbaker00
Nov 26th, 2006, 05:56 AM
Rocketta, thanks for responding to Lord Nelson. I was responding to him but it was mean so I decided to just leave it alone. No matter what I say,he'll try and turn it around,even if it means he has to change the subject.
:worship::worship::worship:
Why do you take what he says so seriously? Just do what I do: laugh at him and move on. ;)

DemWilliamsGulls
Nov 26th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Paul Mooney's take on it. LOL!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9cuX2uYOi4g

Paul Mooney so gotdamn ignorant lol...that fool does not have a bit of sense....they coulnd't have interviewed a better person...:worship:

Wigglytuff
Nov 26th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Why do you take what he says so seriously? Just do what I do: laugh at him and move on. ;)

seriously, lord nelson has the iq of a drunken fruit fly. the right thing to do is to laugh at him stumbling about and move on. :lol: :lol: :bounce: :bounce:

Lord Nelson
Nov 26th, 2006, 01:59 PM
seriously, lord nelson has the iq of a drunken fruit fly. the right thing to do is to laugh at him stumbling about and move on. :lol: :lol: :bounce: :bounce:

You just copied almost word for word what Darrin said. Can't you be original? :lol:

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 26th, 2006, 02:18 PM
You just copied almost word for word what Darrin said. Can't you be original? :lol:

Coattail riders are never original.

So Kramer feels guilty in a court of public opinion.
Did anyone have an issue with certain celebrities using a big name lawyer in Johnny Cockran to salvage their careers?
I don't remember anyone finding an issue with it. I think many people actually recommended it.

He has the right to salvage his career. I doubt it will work but it's his livelihood so he should try.

Wigglytuff
Nov 26th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Coattail riders are never original.


seriously, most of your posts appear to be jacked word for word from this guy's book.

http://www.eiu.edu/%7Etraining/sh/student/common_files/Legal%20Page1-Clarence%20Thomas.gif

:help: :help:

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 26th, 2006, 02:31 PM
seriously, most of your posts appear to be jacked word for word from this guy's book.

http://www.eiu.edu/%7Etraining/sh/student/common_files/Legal%20Page1-Clarence%20Thomas.gif

:help: :help:

You've done this trick before.
How about thinking of something else.
Sure the typical douchebags will laugh at it.
I would hope they had better standards but whatever.

Clearance Thomas is a Republican Uncle Tom who listens to everything white men says.
I'm a black man that doesn't attach myself fully to any community, whether it be black, gay, or hispanic because again none of them always have the right answer.
Continue to agree without no thought process, I'm sure it's easier. :wavey:

Wigglytuff
Nov 26th, 2006, 03:23 PM
You've done this trick before.
How about thinking of something else.
Sure the typical douchebags will laugh at it.


douchebags? what are you in 8 years old?? :eek:

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 26th, 2006, 03:33 PM
douchebags? what are you an 8 year old?? :eek:

It's annoying correcting you when you're trying to insult someone.

You calling me immature with that avatar of yours is a no-no, sweetie.

Wigglytuff
Nov 26th, 2006, 03:40 PM
It's annoying correcting you when you're trying to insult someone.

You calling me immature with that avatar of yours is a no-no, sweetie.

oh oh i hope you are not masturbating over there. you sure sound like you are having too much fun making assumptions about anime.

well at least you finally have some joy in your life. not enough to love your blackness but you got walk before you can run, right?

Cam'ron Giles
Nov 26th, 2006, 03:42 PM
Woohooo...bitch fight...:bolt:

Wigglytuff
Nov 26th, 2006, 03:46 PM
Woohooo...bitch fight...:bolt:

no fight, its me kicking around young mister thomas before brunch. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 26th, 2006, 03:57 PM
oh oh i hope you are not masturbating over there. you sure sound like you are having too much fun making assumptions about anime.

well at least you finally have some joy in your life. not enough to love your blackness but you got walk before you can run, right?

Yes. It must be a horrible assumption, that a pink creature that sings people to sleep is targeted for children.

I love my blackness.
At least I'm not a lesbian who hides behind a black community stereotype of lesbians being ok because "they're women and women are weak so of course they give in to their nature" just so I can talk about others without being threatened.
Whatever gets you up in the morning though.

timafi
Nov 26th, 2006, 06:16 PM
C. Thomas is one sorry sob:mad: :mad:

harloo
Nov 26th, 2006, 06:40 PM
I love my blackness.


POST OF THE YEAR!!!:haha: :haha: :rolls: :rolls:

Please stop while you're ahead!!:help: :tape:

Stamp Paid
Nov 26th, 2006, 07:35 PM
You've done this trick before.
How about thinking of something else.
Sure the typical douchebags will laugh at it.
I would hope they had better standards but whatever.

Clearance Thomas is a Republican Uncle Tom who listens to everything white men says.
I'm a black man that doesn't attach myself fully to any community, whether it be black, gay, or hispanic because again none of them always have the right answer.

I'm sure CT would describe himself in this way too.
I abhor black people that have the constant need to prove or show that "I'm not like the average Black person."
Like theres something wrong with being the average black person or promoting your own interests.
White people do it all the time. Why shouldn't I? For the sake of assimilation or colorblindness? To relieve racial tension?
Fuck that.

mykarma
Nov 26th, 2006, 07:52 PM
POST OF THE YEAR!!!:haha: :haha: :rolls: :rolls:

Please stop while you're ahead!!:help: :tape:
Ouch:tape:

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 26th, 2006, 08:07 PM
I'm sure CT would describe himself in this way too.
I abhor black people that have the constant need to prove or show that "I'm not like the average Black person."
Like theres something wrong with being the average black person or promoting your own interests.
White people do it all the time. Why shouldn't we? For the sake of assimilation or colorblindness? To relieve racial tension?
Fuck that.

I agree he might. He's a Catholic and his conservative ways likely come from that upbringing. Others come from a pure denial that race issues are still in America.
I think they exist but I just don't agree that calling every incident that exist is a racial one.
I have a Catholic upbringing but unlike CT, I don't agree with many of the things that traditional Catholicism teaches and these days most Catholics are like that.
I don't agree with many of the things that the black community feels is right because it clashes with the gay community and the hispanic community and vice versa.

I would hope I was the average black person and where I'm located I am.
So I'm happy for that. On here it's totally different.

If you really feel that way about ahboring black people who have a constant need to prove that they're not the average black person then how about taking the heat off of me and putting it on the person in your avatar or on Serena or Venus. :wavey:

Wigglytuff
Nov 26th, 2006, 10:56 PM
POST OF THE YEAR!!!:haha: :haha: :rolls: :rolls:

Please stop while you're ahead!!:help: :tape:

:lol: :lol: :lol: you see how i aint say nothing after wannabe's little gem. :tape: :tape: