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Polikarpov
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:37 AM
All info are taken from Wikipedia.

Martina Hingisova

Amelie Simone Mauresmo

Jennifer Marie Capriati

Lindsay Ann Davenport

Elena Vyacheslavovna Dementieva

Stefanie Maria Graf

Maria Yuryevna Kirilenko

Anna Sergeyevna Kournikova

Svetlana Aleksandrovna Kuznetsova

Anastasia Andreyevna Myskina

Martina Šubertová (Navratilova is the surname of her stepfather)

Aranzazu (Arantxa) Isabel Maria Sánchez Vicario

Maria Yuryevna Sharapova (Wikipedia says that the stress is on "ra" not on the "po. I guess it goes the same for other Russian names.)

Serena Jameka Williams

Venus Ebone Starr Williams

To the Russians out there: I have noticed that Russian players' second name is derived from their fathers'. Can you please explain the reason behind it?:)

frenchie
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:39 AM
Amélie SIMONE Mauresmo

:lol: :lol: :lol:

FrenchY52
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:42 AM
Mary Caroline Pierce

Nicolas
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:45 AM
Martina, the pioneer of the -ova invasion.....

Yuri Sharapov
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:46 AM
Martina Hingisova, is she russian too?

Princeza
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:47 AM
Martina Hingisova, is she russian too?

Czechoslovak

FrenchY52
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Monica Selesova :rolleyes:

honeyke
Nov 12th, 2006, 11:57 AM
Kim Antonie Lode Clijsters (info from geocities.com and tennisrulz.com)

roxi
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:02 PM
All info are taken from Wikipedia.

Aranzazu (Arantxa) Isabel Maria Sánchez Vicario

Serena Jameka Williams

Venus Ebone Starr Williams



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Irina123
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:10 PM
To the Russians out there: I have noticed that Russian players' second name is derived from their fathers'. Can you please explain the reason behind it?:)
it's not second names, it's patronymic

SloKid
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:12 PM
Monica Selesova :rolleyes:
Selesova?!
That is not her name.

honeyke
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:18 PM
Wera Igorjewna Swonarjowa (source wikipedia) :confused:

BARBIE
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Monica Selesova :rolleyes:

Since she was a yugoslav, then i think it will be like this, Selesic.

vma
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Wera Igorjewna Swonarjowa (source wikipedia) :confused:
This is how her surname is pronounced by Polish Eurosport commentators
A few years ago when Vera was in Warsaw, she explained that her surname was misspelled at one of her first tournaments and it was never corrected - this is where Zvonareva comes from:)

Wintermute
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:32 PM
To the Russians out there: I have noticed that Russian players' second name is derived from their fathers'. Can you please explain the reason behind it?:)

You are talking about the patronymic:

Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_names#Patronymic)
Wera Igorjewna Swonarjowa (source wikipedia) :confused:

Vera Igorevna Zvonareva (Вера Игоревна Звонарёва)

And another:
Anna Djamalovna Chakvetadze (Анна Джамаловна Чакветадзе)

SloKid
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:33 PM
Since she was a yugoslav, then i think it will be like this, Selesic.
Um no, her actual name is Monika Seleš.
And since she is of Hungarian ethnicity she would not have an -ić ending.

Irina123
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:34 PM
This is how her surname is pronounced by Polish Eurosport commentators
A few years ago when Vera was in Warsaw, she explained that her surname was misspelled at one of her first tournaments and it was never corrected - this is where Zvonareva comes from:)
Zvonareva (Звонaрева) is corret spelling

Jakeev
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:38 PM
Um no, her actual name is Monika Seleš.
And since she is of Hungarian ethnicity she would not have an -ić ending.

Szeles.

BARBIE
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Um no, her actual name is Monika Seleš.
And since she is of Hungarian ethnicity she would not have an -ić ending.

She has a hungarian background ???
I didn't knew it. Sorry, but i heard it was yugoslavia. Sorry.

SloKid
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:41 PM
Szeles.
Maybe Selesz? :p

SloKid
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:42 PM
She has a hungarian background ???
I didn't knew it. Sorry, but i heard it was yugoslavia. Sorry.
Well yeah, she was born and raised in Yugoslavia and played for Yugoslavia, but her dad is of Hungarian ethnicity, there is a Hungarian minority in the part of Serbia she's from.

santhuruu
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:45 PM
Isn't it Serena Jamica Williams insteed of Serena Jameka Williams?

BARBIE
Nov 12th, 2006, 12:52 PM
Well yeah, she was born and raised in Yugoslavia and played for Yugoslavia, but her dad is of Hungarian ethnicity, there is a Hungarian minority in the part of Serbia she's from.

Hmmmm, i see. Thanks for the info.

ZeroSOFInfinity
Nov 12th, 2006, 01:20 PM
Serena Jameka Williams

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Sorry Williams fans, but this is too funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

MistyGrey
Nov 12th, 2006, 01:33 PM
Nice thread
:lol:

Oriental_Rain
Nov 12th, 2006, 01:39 PM
hmmm I wonder if Hantuchova has a middle name? :scratch:

I guess not
otherwise I would have known it right away [considering Im her HUGE fan]

samn
Nov 12th, 2006, 02:56 PM
All info are taken from Wikipedia.

Stefanie Maria Graf
Martina Šubertová (Navratilova is the surname of her stepfather)
Aranzazu (Arantxa) Isabel Maria Sánchez Vicario



Some more former players:

Christine (Chris) Marie Evert
Pamela Howard Shriver (Howard - What an appropriate middle name for someone who walked like a duck)
Zina Lena Garrison
Gabriela Beatriz Sabatini
Beatriz Cristina (Gigi) Fernandez
Evonne Fay Goolagong Cawley
Maria Esther Andion Bueno
Inmaculada Concepcion (Conchita) Martinez Bernat
Tracy Anne Austin

Oh, and even though she was born Subertova, Navratilova is Martina's correct name as she was legally adopted by her stepfather, Mirek Navratil.

Fantastic
Nov 12th, 2006, 03:55 PM
Didn't someone say that Jennifer Capriati's real name was Virginia? Or was that a joke and I somehow missed the punchline?

Danči Dementia
Nov 12th, 2006, 04:55 PM
Some more former players:

Maria Esther Andion Bueno
Inmaculada Concepcion (Conchita) Martinez BernatTracy Anne Austin

Oh, and even though she was born Subertova, Navratilova is Martina's correct name as she was legally adopted by her stepfather, Mirek Navratil.

This is a very very religious name I have a friend her name is María de la Concepcion of course we all call her concha but Inmaculada concepcion:eek: :lol: :lol: :lol: that has something to do with a Virgin:angel: when Jesus was born he was born from a Inmaculada Concepción..............that is the hell of a name

Danči Dementia
Nov 12th, 2006, 04:56 PM
hmmm I wonder if Hantuchova has a middle name? :scratch:

I guess not
otherwise I would have known it right away [considering Im her HUGE fan]


I think she doesn't have a middle name....................well I haven't heard of one middle name of her.:)

Danči Dementia
Nov 12th, 2006, 04:58 PM
Venus Ebone Starr Williams:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Kim Antonie Lode Clijsters.....cute:hearts: :) :angel:

PointBlank
Nov 12th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Isnt Chakvetadze really Tchakvetadze? It sounds like a Georgian surname, so she must have removed the T.

Danči Dementia
Nov 12th, 2006, 05:26 PM
Isnt Chakvetadze really Tchakvetadze? It sounds like a Georgian surname, so she must have removed the T.

Chakvetadze is a Georgian surname and the thing with the spelling I guess it has to do something with the cyrilic alphabet for example I will name a gimnast her name is Irina Tchachina but in some competitions her name is Irina Chaschina or Tchacshina:confused: :confused: its very very weird.
I think is beacuse the TCH or CH doesn't have a real traduccion from Russian to english.

I guess..............correct me if I'm wrong.

Wintermute
Nov 12th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Isnt Chakvetadze really Tchakvetadze? It sounds like a Georgian surname, so she must have removed the T.

Yes Dani Dementieva is right, it's Georgian but she spells it Чакветадзе (Cyrillic alphabet). When she first came on the tour she spelt the westernised version with a T but dropped it after a while. I guess this is because the T is not really necessary for Western speakers and looks slightly unusual to a Westerner reading it.

I'm sure several other Russian girls have changed the westernised spelling of their name to look more pleasing or easier to read. e.g. Douchevina/Dushevina.

Slumpsova
Nov 12th, 2006, 06:33 PM
Sesil Miscarriageva Karatantcheva.

Ksenia.
Nov 12th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Nadezhda (Надежда), not Nadia Petrova.. I dunno why they use a shorten form of her name..

And russian girls dont have second name, u can call it father's name maybe

Brian Stewart
Nov 14th, 2006, 08:10 AM
Chanda Renee Rubin
Jamea Sable Jackson
Alicia Helena Molik
Zina Lynna Garrison
Lori Michelle McNeil
Mashona Lakuta Washington
Amanda Jaculi Coetzer
Maria Florencia Labat
Ana Maria Cecchini
Rennae Patricia Stubbs
Lisa Mary Raymond
Maria Antonia Sanchez Lorenzo
Maria Luisa Serna

And some past players:
Billie Jean King :)
Sarah Virginia Wade
Althea Louise Brough
Maureen Catherine(?) Connolly (full name at HOF site)

DutchieGirl
Nov 14th, 2006, 08:14 AM
To the Russians out there: I have noticed that Russian players' second name is derived from their fathers'. Can you please explain the reason behind it?:)

It can happen in other Eastern European countries too. :D

DutchieGirl
Nov 14th, 2006, 08:16 AM
Chakvetadze is a Georgian surname and the thing with the spelling I guess it has to do something with the cyrilic alphabet for example I will name a gimnast her name is Irina Tchachina but in some competitions her name is Irina Chaschina or Tchacshina:confused: :confused: its very very weird.
I think is beacuse the TCH or CH doesn't have a real traduccion from Russian to english.

I guess..............correct me if I'm wrong.

yes, what you said is correct - TBE said the same thing before when people asked about Anna's last name. :D

DutchieGirl
Nov 14th, 2006, 08:18 AM
Yes Dani Dementieva is right, it's Georgian but she spells it Чакветадзе (Cyrillic alphabet). When she first came on the tour she spelt the westernised version with a T but dropped it after a while. I guess this is because the T is not really necessary for Western speakers and looks slightly unusual to a Westerner reading it.

I'm sure several other Russian girls have changed the westernised spelling of their name to look more pleasing or easier to read. e.g. Douchevina/Dushevina.

Petrova used to have "Nadia" written as Nadeja or so too, so you are right. :D

spiceboy
Nov 14th, 2006, 08:18 AM
Maria Luisa Serna


María Luisa is her name. Her full name is María Luisa Serna Barrera.

DutchieGirl
Nov 14th, 2006, 08:19 AM
Sesil Miscarriageva Karatantcheva.

:haha:

Oh and a true one:

Michaella Petra(!) Krajicek :)

The Last Unicorn
Nov 14th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Isn't Mary Joe Fernandez actually María José Fernández?

spiceboy
Nov 14th, 2006, 08:59 AM
Isn't Mary Joe Fernandez actually María José Fernández?

Yes. Her father is Spanish and her mother is Cuban :)

Uranus
Nov 14th, 2006, 09:10 AM
I like Jennifer Marie Capriati!

Amélie Simone Mauresmo :lol:

Ben.
Nov 14th, 2006, 09:12 AM
Kim Antonie Lode Clijsters :hearts: such a beautiful name.

Martina Hingisova ;) mmmm rather prefer if it was just hingis. that's me personally though.

Andy.
Nov 14th, 2006, 11:12 AM
Venus has such an awesome full name it sounds so important and regal.

ezekiel
Nov 14th, 2006, 01:05 PM
I thought it was a joke to call Venus like that but it's real

*JR*
Nov 14th, 2006, 01:39 PM
Patty Carole Schnyder :cuckoo:

(Not Patricia, BTW).

ChampLindsay
Nov 14th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Lindsay Ann Davenport



wonderful name :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :angel:

pla
Nov 14th, 2006, 02:15 PM
Chakvetadze is a Georgian surname and the thing with the spelling I guess it has to do something with the cyrilic alphabet for example I will name a gimnast her name is Irina Tchachina but in some competitions her name is Irina Chaschina or Tchacshina:confused: :confused: its very very weird.
I think is beacuse the TCH or CH doesn't have a real traduccion from Russian to english.

I guess..............correct me if I'm wrong.

Many countries with official cyrillic alphabets don't have official transliteration to latin letter, so people either choose the English translation, or French. The "tch" combination is the French way to write it, as "ch" in French is "sh". And Chaschina is more complicated,a s she have a "tch" and another letter wich doesn't have the exact equivalent. It's щ and in Russian it's pronounced slose to "chtch" (French way) or "shch" (English).

vogus
Nov 14th, 2006, 02:21 PM
Patricia Carole Schnyder.

The Last Unicorn
Nov 14th, 2006, 03:35 PM
Yes. Her father is Spanish and her mother is Cuban :)
Thanks :wavey: