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twight6
Nov 10th, 2006, 04:58 PM
I think we're all aware of the yellow group scenarios, thanks to GoDominique and Ryan :p ;)

But, here are all the red group and what will happen:


IF SHARAPOVA BEATS KUZNETSOVA, THE FOLLOWING WUOLD BE POSSIBLE:


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova
Clijsters def. Dementieva (neither set score matters)
Name Match W Match L
Sharapova 3 0
Clijsters 2 1
Kuznetsova 1 2
Dementieva 0 3
Sharapova advances as Red #1, Clijsters as Red #2


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-0
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-0
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 3 0 6 0 100
Clijsters 1 2 2 4 33
Kuznetsova 1 2 2 4 33
Dementieva 1 2 2 4 33

Sharapova advances as Red #1
Clijsters, Kuznetsova, and Dementieva are tied in Match w/l, and set %, so it must go to games next. In that case, Clijsters is in the lead, however, we won't know for certain who advances until after the matches today


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-1
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-0
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 3 0 6 1 86
Kuznetsova 1 2 3 4 43
Clijsters 1 2 2 4 33
Dementieva 1 2 2 4 33

Sharapova advances as Red #1
clijsters, kuznetsova, and dementieva all tied in Match w/l, so set % is used.
In this case, Kuznetsova would advance as Red #2.


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-0
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-1
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 3 0 6 0 100
Clijsters 1 2 3 4 43
Kuznetsova 1 2 2 4 33
Dementieva 1 2 2 5 29

Sharapova advances as Red #1
Once again, Kim, Sveta, and Elena all tied in Match w/l, so set % is used.
Clijsters advances as Red #2


Sharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-1
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-1
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 3 0 6 1 100
Clijsters 1 2 3 4 43
Kuznetsova 1 2 3 4 43
Dementieva 1 2 2 5 29

Sharapova advances as Red #1
Clijsters, Kuznetsova, and Dementieva all tied at 1-2.
Clijsters and Kuznetsova are tied in set %, so Dementieva is definately out. However, i'm not sure whether they use game % or H2H to break a tie...
If they use H2H: Clijsters advances
Game %: Clijsters is in the lead, but it could go either way i do believe.





IN THE EVENT THAT KUZNETSOVA DEF. SHARAPOVA, THE FOLLOWING WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITIES:


Kuznetsova def. Sharapova 2-0
Clijsters def. Dementieva 2-0
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 2 1 4 2 67
Kuznetsova 2 1 4 2 67
Clijsters 2 1 4 2 67
Dementieva 0 3 1 6 14

Sharapova, Kuznetsova and Clijsters all tied for 1st place
Set % is used, they're still tied
Game % is used. Won't be able to tell until after the matches


Kuznetsova def. Sharapova 2-1
Clijsters def. Dementieva 2-0
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 2 1 5 2 71
Clijsters 2 1 4 2 67
Kuznetsova 2 1 4 3 57
Dementieva 0 3 1 6 14

Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Clijsters all tied for 1st place
Set % is used
Sharapova advances as Red #1, Clijsters as Red #2


Kuznetsova def. Sharapova 2-0
Clijsters def. Dementieva 2-1
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 2 1 4 2 67
Kuznetsova 2 1 4 2 67
Clijsters 2 1 4 3 57
Dementieva 0 3 1 6 14

Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Clijsters all tied for 1st place
Set % is used
Sharapova and Kuznetsova advance
Sharapova is red #1, Kuznetsova red #2 because of the H2H


Kuznetsova def. Sharapova 2-1
Clijsters def. Dementieva 2-1
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 2 1 5 2 67
Clijsters 2 1 4 3 57
Kuznetsova 2 1 4 3 57
Dementieva 0 3 1 6 14

Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Clijsters all tied for 1st place
Set % is used
Sharapova advances as Red #1, Kuznetsova and Clijsters are still tied
Clijsters advances as Red #2 because she won the H2H



AND I THINK THAT'S ALL. IF IT'S NOT, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT I'M MISSING :)


If anyone knows what happens in this situation:
3 way tie for 1st, so set % is used. 1 player gets 1st place, but the other 2 are stilll tied for 2nd. I think H2H would be used, but i'm not positive.

If you know for certain, tell me and i'll update this :)


If you see any mistakes, tell me and i'll fix it right away. But, i think it's all right

GoDominique
Nov 10th, 2006, 05:10 PM
ISharapova def. Kuznetsova 2-1
Dementieva def. Clijsters 2-1
Name Match W Match L Set W Set L %
Sharapova 3 0 6 1 100
Clijsters 1 2 3 4 43
Kuznetsova 1 2 3 4 43
Dementieva 1 2 2 5 29

Sharapova advances as Red #1
Clijsters, Kuznetsova, and Dementieva all tied at 1-2.
Clijsters and Kuznetsova are tied in set %, so Dementieva is definately out. However, i'm not sure whether they use game % or H2H to break a tie...
If they use H2H: Clijsters advances
Game %: Clijsters is in the lead, but it could go either way i do believe.
Sorry, was just about about to answer your PM but I guess I can do it here too.

WTA hasn't stated what they would use in this case.
Since I'm pretty sure they use the same system as the ATP, H2H would be next so Kim would advance.
Even if it's games then Kim would most likely be ahead as long as she doesn't lose 0-6 7-6 0-6 and Sveta doesn't lose 6-7 6-0 6-7. :o

twight6
Nov 10th, 2006, 05:10 PM
Sorry, was just about about to answer your PM but I guess I can do it here too.

WTA hasn't stated what they would use in this case.
Since I'm pretty sure they use the same system as the ATP, H2H would be next so Kim would advance.
Even if it's games then Kim would most likely be ahead as long as she doesn't lose 0-6 7-6 0-6 and Sveta doesn't lose 6-7 6-0 6-7. :o

okay, thanks

Elleke
Nov 10th, 2006, 05:42 PM
Thank you!! :wavey: