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Elena Dementieva has welcomed the announced that US Open champion Maria Sharapova wants to join Russia’s Fed Cup campaign next season.


“If she plays it's going to be very helpful for the team,” Dementieva said.

“She's a very strong player and we have a lot of chances to win if she's playing.”

Anastasia Myskina has said in the past that she would refuse to play with if Sharapova's father Yuri was present, but Dementieva has dismissed the rumours of unrest in the Russian camp.

“I don't see any problems with her father,” she added.

“He's an emotional guy but it is nothing to do with his daughter. Maria is a nice girl and I don't see any problems.”

Russia – back to back winners in 2004 and 2005 – have been drawn at home against Spain in the first round to be played in April.

Talita Kumi
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:00 AM
:speakles:

P_Fer
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:01 AM
Already posted before but always nice to hear

lindsayno1
Oct 6th, 2006, 09:06 AM
well theres a surprise shes playing next year...

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 02:11 PM
Lena is aware that Sharapova spends 99% of her time in the US, and almost zero time in Russia.

Aware that Sharapova is only making herself Fed Cup eligible to play in the Olympics.
Lena knows that Sharapova celebrates her birthday with US flags, too

But Lena is not going to start trouble this week.

Corswandt
Oct 6th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Lena is aware that Sharapova spends 99% of her time in the US, and almost zero time in Russia.

Aware that Sharapova is only making herself Fed Cup eligible to play in the Olympics.
Lena knows that Sharapova celebrates her birthday with US flags, too

But Lena is not going to start trouble this week.

:nerner:

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 02:34 PM
I hope there is some hazing on the Russian Fed Cup team
If Sharapova actually shows up (and I wouldn't be surprised if she comes up with a mystery illness next April),
maybe Lena, Sveta, and Dinara will tie Sharapova up, and shave her head (like the other egghead Americans, Agassi and Murphy Jensen).

Just a thought :nerner:

Ryan
Oct 6th, 2006, 02:39 PM
Lena is aware that Sharapova spends 99% of her time in the US, and almost zero time in Russia.

Aware that Sharapova is only making herself Fed Cup eligible to play in the Olympics.
Lena knows that Sharapova celebrates her birthday with US flags, too

But Lena is not going to start trouble this week.


Unlike a certain twat on this board. :tape:

bellascarlett
Oct 6th, 2006, 02:58 PM
Lena is aware that Sharapova spends 99% of her time in the US, and almost zero time in Russia.

Aware that Sharapova is only making herself Fed Cup eligible to play in the Olympics.
Lena knows that Sharapova celebrates her birthday with US flags, too

But Lena is not going to start trouble this week.

*DEAD*

goldenlox, when will you shut up about this? this is getting :silly: :cuckoo: :lol:

tenn_ace
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:00 PM
Lena is aware that Sharapova spends 99% of her time in the US, and almost zero time in Russia.

Aware that Sharapova is only making herself Fed Cup eligible to play in the Olympics.
Lena knows that Sharapova celebrates her birthday with US flags, too

But Lena is not going to start trouble this week.


Dear Goldenlox,:kiss:

No matter how many time you repeat this, Masha is Russian and will be one.

Love, :kiss:
me.

:nerner:

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:12 PM
Dear Goldenlox,:kiss:

No matter how many time you repeat this, Masha is Russian and will be one.

Love, :kiss:
me.

:nerner:You know, some of these Mashabators:p are way too sensitive.
Sharapova was born in Russia, with 2 Russian parents.
So was Golovin.
So was Dementieva.

Sharapova, Golvin, Dementieva... Who is the Russian? :D :angel:

Stingray
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Lena is aware that Sharapova spends 99% of her time in the US, and almost zero time in Russia.

Aware that Sharapova is only making herself Fed Cup eligible to play in the Olympics.
Lena knows that Sharapova celebrates her birthday with US flags, too

But Lena is not going to start trouble this week.
So are you Elena's Psychic, mother, or her herself cos you seem to know a lot about what she thinks...............

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:19 PM
So are you Elena's Psychic, mother, or her herself cos you seem to know a lot about what she thinks...............I'm guessing she is aware of Sharapova's actions

Stingray
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:21 PM
I'm guessing she is aware of Sharapova's actions
What, that she wants to play for her country so she can represent that country in the Olympics?! How dare she!

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:21 PM
Lena already knows Maria's motives, so it's not really a controversy....honestly, everyone does.

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:24 PM
Lena already knows Maria's motives, so it's not really a controversy....honestly, everyone does.Exactly

the cat
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:42 PM
:yawn:

It's a lost cause GL. Masha is staying a Russian citizen and will play for the Russian national team starting in 2007. And her Russina teammates will welcome Masha to make her transisition as easy as possible. :)

Good one tenn_ace. :lol: You got GL good. ;) :haha:

roarke
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:50 PM
Of course Dimentieva is going to give the quintessential diplomatic answer. She is not going to say We on the Russian Fed cup team hate Sharapova's guts and we wish she didn't try to play as a convenience for her and just to qualify for the Olympics, none of us real Russians want her on our team? There are more deserving Russian tennis players.

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:52 PM
We don't know what Sharapova is going to do.
Who would have thought she would win Wimbledon, then travel all around the world -
Thailand, Korea, Japan...on and on.. :rolleyes:
and not go to Russia?

You never know with Sharapova

tenn_ace
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:52 PM
You know, some of these Mashabators:p are way too sensitive.
Sharapova was born in Russia, with 2 Russian parents.
So was Golovin.
So was Dementieva.

Sharapova, Golvin, Dementieva... Who is the Russian? :D :angel:


who declares herself one. Dem and Shar. Simple. :wavey:

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:54 PM
That wasn't a multple choice question :D

tenn_ace
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:55 PM
then all of them if it is yes or no

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:57 PM
then all of them if it is yes or no
Golovin is just as Russian as Sharapova. I agree on that

the cat
Oct 6th, 2006, 03:58 PM
tenn_ace, do you know what you've gotten yourself into with GL where Maria and the Russian Fed Cup team is concerned? :eek: GL goes round and round like a cat chasing its tail until you're dizzy and give up. :silly: ;) Good luck tenn_ace. :haha: ;)

xan
Oct 6th, 2006, 04:00 PM
Of course Dimentieva is going to give the quintessential diplomatic answer. She is not going to say We on the Russian Fed cup team hate Sharapova's guts and we wish she didn't try to play as a convenience for her and just to qualify for the Olympics, none of us real Russians want her on our team? There are more deserving Russian tennis players.
:smash: :cuckoo:

Why should anyone else on the Russian team hate Maria's guts?

What on earth is a "deserving" tennis player with respect to selection for the national team?

And who suddenly decided that it was a crime to want to play for your country in the Olympics?

And how is it that displaying the Jamaican icon is suddenly an expert on who is a "real" Russian?

xan
Oct 6th, 2006, 04:03 PM
Golovin is just as Russian as Sharapova. I agree on that

Golovin is a French citizen and plays for France.

Maria is a Russian citizen and plays for Russia.

It's not rocket science.

You show a Russian icon, claim to support Russian players and live in the USA. Your heroine Kournikova (who is on your list of "Russians") does the same.

tenn_ace
Oct 6th, 2006, 04:07 PM
tenn_ace, do you know what you've gotten yourself into with GL where Maria and the Russian Fed Cup team is concerned? :eek: GL goes round and round like a cat chasing its tail until you're dizzy and give up. :silly: ;) Good luck tenn_ace. :haha: ;)


I'm quitting this game. I have some work to do to earn my pay check ;)

morningglory
Oct 6th, 2006, 04:16 PM
:haha: GL the clown strikes again... (and I heard someone mentioning that GL isn't Russian and can't speak Russian, is this true?)
Anyway, you are who you choose to be... if Maria chooses to represent Russia, then she's Russian.

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Sharapova has the choice to represent Russia, as did Golovin.
So far, neither one has ever played for Russia. That's why Sharapova can still change her mind, and play for another country
They both are Russian

P_Fer
Oct 6th, 2006, 07:21 PM
Some more brilliant posts from GL:rolleyes:

Darlingest
Oct 6th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Darling,

They are good friends and I'm sure they will win Fed Cup.

No.1Hingis
Oct 6th, 2006, 07:31 PM
I will bet on that Russian team.. Maria as well is not one of my faves but that team certainly is a killer one.. Lena, Kuzzy, Maria and Dinara.. and if she wish Myskina.. 4 top ten player as a team and Myskina that surely is always a big contender like a top one.. better impossible.. I guess is pretty great Maria join into the Russian team, even she will be a huge aportation.. as team the main goal is to win.. and sure Maria wants that trophy for her carrer.. Then as she will be part of Russian team I'll say is good for everybody..

Oops! I forgot Nadia.. !!!!

goldenlox
Oct 7th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Whatever team that shows up will beat Spain.
And I hope it's a team that has supported Russian Fed Cup over the years,
and not a team with an American

TeaMMashA
Oct 7th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Whatever team that shows up will beat Spain.
And I hope it's a team that has supported Russian Fed Cup over the years,
and not a team with an American

Your actually quite pathetic

ys
Oct 7th, 2006, 03:54 PM
Whatever team that shows up will beat Spain.
And I hope it's a team that has supported Russian Fed Cup over the years,
and not a team with an American

:kiss:

goldenlox
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:00 PM
In 20 years Sharapova will be running for Govenor of California.
Just watch

morningglory
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:18 PM
Your actually quite pathetic
yeah esp for someone who actually can't speak Russian...
(I heard GL isn't really Russian AT ALL)
look who's talking, eh? ;)

goldenlox
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:21 PM
Do you wonder why Sharapova does dozens of US talk shows and none in Russia?

njnetswill
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:22 PM
You know, some of these Mashabators:p are way too sensitive.
Sharapova was born in Russia, with 2 Russian parents.
So was Golovin.
So was Dementieva.

Sharapova, Golvin, Dementieva... Who is the Russian? :D :angel:

I have a lot of friends who live here in America but were born outside the country. To automatically discount their nationality simply based on your reasoning is very unfair.

goldenlox
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:26 PM
I have a lot of friends who live here in America but were born outside the country. To automatically discount their nationality simply based on your reasoning is very unfair.I don't.
But when you are a top 5 tennis player with a Russian passport, you should show up in Russia more often than you do in Korea.

And if she spends all her time in the US, she doesn't have to take birthday photos with US flags all around her

njnetswill
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:36 PM
I don't.
But when you are a top 5 tennis player with a Russian passport, you should show up in Russia more often than you do in Korea.

And if she spends all her time in the US, she doesn't have to take birthday photos with US flags all around her

I think since she left Russia when she was only about 6 years old, true feelings of loyalty and identification with Russia don't run very deep. If she left when she was, say, 14, it would be a totally different Maria. The fact is that she now wants to contribute more to Russian tennis, plays Kremlin Cup and wants to help the Russian Fed Cup team. She may not feel as deep a connection to Russia as the other players but she is still making an effort, and for that you could at least be supportive.

goldenlox
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:44 PM
I think since she left Russia when she was only about 6 years old, true feelings of loyalty and identification with Russia don't run very deep.I totally agree with you.
I was supportive, but after 3 years, I'm also realistic.
Sharapova is totally Americanized.
She loves doing US tv shows, US awards shows, and almost never goes to Russia.

And when I say that, people act like I'm insulting her.
I'm not :cool:

denisgiann
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:48 PM
I don't.
But when you are a top 5 tennis player with a Russian passport, you should show up in Russia more often than you do in Korea.

And if she spends all her time in the US, she doesn't have to take birthday photos with US flags all around her
So if you show up more in Korea you are Korean, if you show up more in the Usa you are an american :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: .Your reasoning amazes me.
To cut a long story sort:Maria has russian parents(fact).Ηas russian passport(a fact also) and the most important thing she declares that she feels russian and makes herself available for the Fed cup.End of story.Dont try to put Golovin in the mix cause she has russian parents but when she had to choose she chose France.Maria didnt chose Usa and you know it.

Now go and cry a river smartass cause a player you obviously hate, shattered one more of your excuses of hating her in the first place.You already lost the one slam wonder theory.Now you lost the nationality issue, but at least you have still the shrieking and the bananas.It will be still enough for you to troll.Iam sure :rolleyes: .

goldenlox
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:52 PM
I think I'm very objective.
Russia has almost half the top 20
Only 4 get to play singles in the Olympics
Sharapova still hasn't played Fed Cup. She's turned it down every time.
Larry Scott had to threaten her with a $250,000 fine to get her to play a Tier I in Russia last year.

I'm not going to pretend that Sharapova showing up this year, just like Schiavone and Santangelo are, means she's suddenly changed her behavior.

Stingray
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:52 PM
I don't see what the big deal is- Sharapova wants to qualify for the Olympics, so she can represent.......
RUSSIA!
Get off her case

goldenlox
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:53 PM
I'm not on her case. I'll repeat

Russia has almost half the top 20
Only 4 get to play singles in the Olympics
Sharapova still hasn't played Fed Cup. She's turned it down every time.
Larry Scott had to threaten her with a $250,000 fine to get her to play a Tier I in Russia last year.

I'm not going to pretend that Sharapova showing up this year, just like Schiavone and Santangelo are, means she's suddenly changed her behavior.

Sharapova can do whatever she wants.
And I'm going to comment on it :cool:
And you can comment on :hearts: me:hearts:

No problem :D

RussiaTennis
Oct 7th, 2006, 04:58 PM
Maria is by far and away the greatest russian tennis player of all time, its not like there is any other russian player that is even close to her ability wise. Of course Russia wants her to represent them in Fed cup and Olympics.

goldenlox
Oct 7th, 2006, 05:00 PM
Maria is by far and away the greatest russian tennis player of all time, its not like there is any other russian player that is even close to her ability wise. Of course Russia wants her to represent them in Fed cup and Olympics.:wavey:

prowler
Oct 7th, 2006, 05:23 PM
Well...if she took American citizenship now...she'd be on the American team for sure...but what chance would they have of winning? Delay American citizenship, stay Russian by birth only for a bit longer, guarantee being on the team and a very possible win....shame for the other girls on the Russian team who have fought long and hard for Russia and the Fed Cup to get where they are. Outcome is that Sharapova will get all the glory and the rest of those great Russian players will have to take what's left! I say Nadia deserves the 4th spot.

parn2257
Oct 7th, 2006, 05:41 PM
well I think.....many of the russian are great player. they can have to full team if they want. they can have Sharapova (if she really going to play?) , Dementieva (this one will play for sure), Petrova, Safina, Myskina, Kuznetsova and a lot of other good player. just don't fight each other that all then they will fed cup again!

denisgiann
Oct 7th, 2006, 06:11 PM
Well...if she took American citizenship now...she'd be on the American team for sure...but what chance would they have of winning? Delay American citizenship, stay Russian by birth only for a bit longer, guarantee being on the team and a very possible win....shame for the other girls on the Russian team who have fought long and hard for Russia and the Fed Cup to get where they are. Outcome is that Sharapova will get all the glory and the rest of those great Russian players will have to take what's left! I say Nadia deserves the 4th spot.

You are forgeting one "small" detail:Sharapova is the most succesfull russian by far.Two slams ,no1 in the world for some weeks and currently the highest ranked russian player.She doesnt steal any spots she takes what she rightfully deserves when comparing the results.

Nickitos2006
Oct 8th, 2006, 10:07 AM
Just one question. Are you Russian? Do you speak Russian? If so, please could you answer this post but in our and Maria’s native language...
And OK. If Masha is American, what does KOURNIKOVA do in your sh**ting list titled as "Russian tennis". She's Russian???? :haha: C'mon, this bitch's already forgotten when she was in Russia and even when she was, she always emphasized by her behaviour that Russia is nothing for her. NOTHING! She can’t even speak Russian any more… :o So why are you laying into Masha who really loves her native country, speaks her native language and WILL be playing for our national Fed Cup team (no matter either you like this fact or not)? Why do you spout all that f**king shit about Masha's characteristic over and over again??? U say u’re not insulting Maria. But actually u REALLY are! And I would LOVE to know WHY??? :help:
Answer in Russian. The refusal will be meaning for me (and everyone) that u’re a FAKE Russian.

И заодно скажи мне, плз, чего ты добиваешься? Собственного признания здесь? Или может тебя гложет изнутри зависть к Маше и тот факт, что все твои теннисные любимицы, коих ты так бережно занес в свой долбанный список, на самом-то деле и яйца выеденного не стоят по сравнению с Шараповой? Мне интересны мотивы всего того дерьма, что ты льешь на Машу :scratch:

Ben.
Oct 8th, 2006, 11:32 AM
I'm not on her case. I'll repeat

Russia has almost half the top 20
Only 4 get to play singles in the Olympics
Sharapova still hasn't played Fed Cup. She's turned it down every time.
Larry Scott had to threaten her with a $250,000 fine to get her to play a Tier I in Russia last year.

I'm not going to pretend that Sharapova showing up this year, just like Schiavone and Santangelo are, means she's suddenly changed her behavior.

Sharapova can do whatever she wants.
And I'm going to comment on it :cool:
And you can comment on :hearts: me:hearts:

No problem :D

listen mate. if sharapova says she wants 2 play fed cup 4 russia & says that she has russian blood & a russian heart then she is russian. if u want 2 say anymore nasty comments bout her, u keep it 2 yourself.

just shut up & get over it.

BMP
Oct 8th, 2006, 11:52 AM
~if sharapova says she wants 2 play fed cup 4 russia & says that she has russian blood & a russian heart ~

Does she say she has Russian kidneys or liver? :p
I don't really care but it always seemed strange to me how a person who grew up in the other country, on other's culture, who speaks the Russian language as a foreign one, insists on being totally Russian and having nothing to do with the US. I respect Tursunov because at least he is honest at this point, he does admit he's half-American, thinks in English.... He doesn't say he has no connection to a country where he grew up, lives and which gave him all the conditions for proper training.
I think that it's adequate to play for the country that gave you all to grow up as a tennis player, it would be really fair. It doesn't always matter where you were born. Vaidisova was born in Germany but she doesn't care of it. She plays for a country where she lives.

ys
Oct 8th, 2006, 11:52 AM
listen mate. if sharapova says she wants 2 play fed cup 4 russia & says that she has russian blood & a russian heart then she is russian. if u want 2 say anymore nasty comments bout her, u keep it 2 yourself.

just shut up & get over it.

Listen, mate, this is public boards, GL does not say anything that is offensive to anyone, she does not breal any rules, she just speaks her mind and that's her right on these boards, so if you really want someone to shut up, do it yourself..

bellascarlett
Oct 8th, 2006, 12:21 PM
Just one question. Are you Russian? Do you speak Russian? If so, please could you answer this post but in our and Maria’s native language...
And OK. If Masha is American, what does KOURNIKOVA do in your sh**ting list titled as "Russian tennis". She's Russian???? :haha: C'mon, this bitch's already forgotten when she was in Russia and even when she was, she always emphasized by her behaviour that Russia is nothing for her. NOTHING! She can’t even speak Russian any more… :o So why are you laying into Masha who really loves her native country, speaks her native language and WILL be playing for our national Fed Cup team (no matter either you like this fact or not)? Why do you spout all that f**king shit about Masha's characteristic over and over again??? U say u’re not insulting Maria. But actually u REALLY are! And I would LOVE to know WHY??? :help:
Answer in Russian. The refusal will be meaning for me (and everyone) that u’re a FAKE Russian.

И заодно скажи мне, плз, чего ты добиваешься? Собственного признания здесь? Или может тебя гложет изнутри зависть к Маше и тот факт, что все твои теннисные любимицы, коих ты так бережно занес в свой долбанный список, на самом-то деле и яйца выеденного не стоят по сравнению с Шараповой? Мне интересны мотивы всего того дерьма, что ты льешь на Машу :scratch:

Goldenlox? Wish to reply? ;)

BMP
Oct 8th, 2006, 12:52 PM
I think it's patethic to switch to your native language on the international boards to write insults. Nobody really "poured shit" onto Sharapova. I didn't see any insults. Saying that she is thankless for not caring of the US where she grew up and got a cnace to develop a great carrier - it's not an insult.

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Goldenlox? Wish to reply? ;)

Goldenlox isn't Russian but pretends to be and deep down really hates Russians.

AnnaK_4ever
Oct 8th, 2006, 01:15 PM
И заодно скажи мне, плз, чего ты добиваешься?.. Мне интересны мотивы всего того дерьма, что ты льешь... :scratch:

?Алаверды, Никитосик?

Nickitos2006
Oct 8th, 2006, 01:35 PM
?Алаверды, Никитосик?

Извини, если задел твои чувства. Ничего против Курниковой не имею. Просто под руку попалась.

perseus2006
Oct 8th, 2006, 02:08 PM
This stuff about being Russian or not doesn't matter. The USA didn't give Pova anything: no training, no support, no coach, not even a racket! Pova and Yuri earned all those things. Nick and IMG are making lots of bucks on their private investments in Pova and Yuri worked to pay for the rest.

What does matter is that Pova will appear in the Fed Cup and the Olympics. It should bring some much needed life to these events. Pova is about the only player who really like playing tennis and her enthusiasm and excitement are evident in her shrieking, shouting, gesticulating and dancing at the baseline. How thoroughly enjoyable that is compared to the "silent movie" types, drably dressed, playing a lifeless match. Pova is live drama and thrill delivering the most entertaining game on the market. And she looks good doing it, too!

goldenlox
Oct 8th, 2006, 04:35 PM
Listen, mate, this is public boards, GL does not say anything that is offensive to anyone, she does not breal any rules, she just speaks her mind and that's her right on these boards, so if you really want someone to shut up, do it yourself..Thank you, ys.
I am Russian, and live in the US.
If my parents moved to Uruguay, I'd live there. They pay my bills.

I have no problem with Sharapova. I'm just commenting on what she's been doing.
I have opinions :cool:

zhangxian22
Oct 8th, 2006, 04:37 PM
Maria is the most consistent player in Russia. She'll definitely help a lot in the Fed cup.

the cat
Oct 8th, 2006, 04:54 PM
GL kept it a secret from me that she's Russian and a Russina when she plays tennis. :tennis: :(

And people please post in English so le chat :cat: can read it. :)

P.S. - Isn't it ironic that Maria Sharapova has alot in common with Goldenlox, ys, tenn_ace and millions of other Russians who have moved from Russia to America for a better life? ;)

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:15 PM
Lena is aware that Sharapova spends 99% of her time in the US, and almost zero time in Russia.

Aware that Sharapova is only making herself Fed Cup eligible to play in the Olympics.
Lena knows that Sharapova celebrates her birthday with US flags, too

But Lena is not going to start trouble this week.

Why are you always trying to stir shit?

Listen to what your Queen has said.

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:17 PM
Listen, mate, this is public boards, GL does not say anything that is offensive to anyone, she does not breal any rules, she just speaks her mind and that's her right on these boards, so if you really want someone to shut up, do it yourself..

Oh, so then I hope you respect others right to do the same thing as well :wavey:

Because some of her bullshit will be addressed. ;)

goldenlox
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Listen to what your Queen has said.My Queen:worship: has spoken :D

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:23 PM
P.S. - Isn't it ironic that Maria Sharapova has alot in common with Goldenlox, ys, tenn_ace and millions of other Russians who have moved from Russia to America for a better life? ;)


:eek: :eek: :eek:

Nowadays the Russians do not emigrate . It surprises to me

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:23 PM
My Queen:worship: has spoken :D

Elena Dementieva has welcomed the announced that US Open champion Maria Sharapova wants to join Russia’s Fed Cup campaign next season.


“If she plays it's going to be very helpful for the team,” Dementieva said.

“She's a very strong player and we have a lot of chances to win if she's playing.”

Anastasia Myskina has said in the past that she would refuse to play with if Sharapova's father Yuri was present, but Dementieva has dismissed the rumours of unrest in the Russian camp.

“I don't see any problems with her father,” she added.

“He's an emotional guy but it is nothing to do with his daughter. Maria is a nice girl and I don't see any problems.”

Russia – back to back winners in 2004 and 2005 – have been drawn at home against Spain in the first round to be played in April---------------------------------------------------]


But really. Its not as though Maria needed Demented's blessing or anything. Russia would quickly dump Elena to have the opportunity of Maria representing Russia.

There's so many good Russian players in the Top 20 that Elena is easily expendable.

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:24 PM
P.S. - Isn't it ironic that Maria Sharapova has alot in common with Goldenlox, ys, tenn_ace and millions of other Russians who have moved from Russia to America for a better life? ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

amateurismisokay
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:25 PM
i know nothing bout this whole russian nationality thing, but i think it's a poor thing that a huge event like fed cup doesnt have a player with ability like sharapova playing :o .. good players just make every tourney more interesting..

Mother_Marjorie
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:26 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Nowadays the Russians do not emigrate . It surprises to me

Once the Soviet Union and communism was brought to its knees and the "union" was split many different directions, athlete's stopped risking their lives to defect.

Zvereva would certainly have benefitted from it earlier in her career.

goldenlox
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:28 PM
But really. Its not as though Maria needed Demented's blessing or anything. Russia would quickly dump Elena to have the opportunity of Maria representing Russia.

There's so many good Russian players in the Top 20 that Elena is easily expendable.Sharapova still hasn't played Fed Cup
Elena is a Fed Cup heroine for Russia

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:31 PM
Sharapova still hasn't played Fed Cup
Elena is a Fed Cup heroine for Russia

Maria is a far better and more talented player, greatest Russian player in tennis history.

Edward.
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:33 PM
Has someone hacked GL's account?

If they have, please give it back, I want the sane, normal GL back! :hysteric:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:33 PM
But really. Its not as though Maria needed Demented's blessing or anything. Russia would quickly dump Elena to have the opportunity of Maria representing Russia.

There's so many good Russian players in the Top 20 that Elena is easily expendable.


Don't be idiot

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:38 PM
You have the likes of Petrova, Dementieva, Safina..etc.... I mean Maria is several leagues above any of them. Dementieva could easily be replaced by Petrova cos there is not much between them two. However Maria is in a league of her own and would be indispensible to the team as she is head and shoulders above any other Russian player in terms for her tennis ability.

goldenlox
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:44 PM
But she's never played. And even if Sharapova plays against Spain (who don't have a top 20 WTA player), she's not playing in the semis

I would rather stay with reliable players who want to be there


And this tie doesn't happen until April 2007. A long way off. Sharapova might change her mind

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:45 PM
But she's never played. And even if Sharapova plays against Spain (who don't have a top 20 WTA player), she's not playing in the semis

I would rather stay with reliable players who want to be there


And this tie doesn't happen until April 2007. A long way off. Sharapova might change her mind

Federer is not that reliable when it comes to Davis cup, he is often not available for the later rounds. i take it the swiss should kick him out by your logic :rolleyes:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:46 PM
You have the likes of Petrova, Dementieva, Safina..etc.... I mean Maria is several leagues above any of them. Dementieva could easily be replaced by Petrova cos there is not much between them two. However Maria is in a league of her own and would be indispensible to the team as she is head and shoulders above any other Russian player in terms for her tennis ability.


I don´t think so cuz Pova doesn't exist on clay .

goldenlox
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:48 PM
There are 5 Russians in the top 10.
Russia won 2 Fed Cup titles without Sharapova.
If she is only committing to playing Spain, then she isn't helping the team at all.
She's just making herself eligible for the Olympics.

So I think Tarpischev shouldn't pick her until Sharapova commits to a full year
That's what Dementieva does. She plays every tie that she can

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:50 PM
I don´t think so cuz Pova doesn't exist on clay .

Clay is her weakest surface, but she was injured this year in the clay season. btw, Maria beat Demen in their only meeting on clay.

Anyway Maria is better on clay than Dementieva is on grass

Wayn77
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:53 PM
You have the likes of Petrova, Dementieva, Safina..etc.... I mean Maria is several leagues above any of them. Dementieva could easily be replaced by Petrova cos there is not much between them two. However Maria is in a league of her own and would be indispensible to the team as she is head and shoulders above any other Russian player in terms for her tennis ability.

SEVERAL LEAGUES - are you serious? Natural ability I would rank Maria 3rd or 4th.

And Goldenlox is right. Sharapova should commit to a year before she is even considered for selection in this strong outfit.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:56 PM
Clay is her weakest surface, but she was injured this year in the clay season. btw, Maria beat Demen in their only meeting on clay.

Anyway Maria is better on clay than Dementieva is on grass

What country chooses grass to play Fed Cup ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

franny
Oct 8th, 2006, 05:58 PM
There are 5 Russians in the top 10.
Russia won 2 Fed Cup titles without Sharapova.
If she is only committing to playing Spain, then she isn't helping the team at all.
She's just making herself eligible for the Olympics.

So I think Tarpischev shouldn't pick her until Sharapova commits to a full year
That's what Dementieva does. She plays every tie that she can

Russia wants her to play the Olympics. In fact, Russia would probably rather her play the Olympics than Fed Cup. Russia cares less about Fed Cup than the Olympics. I'm sorry, but if Russia wants a gold medal in 08, they need Maria Sharapova to play. This talk about how she should play a year of Fed Cup is bullcrap, because the motives behind Maria and Russia for her playing Fed Cup is ONLY so that she can play the Olympisc. Everyone knows it, and while you are sitting there denouncing it, quite frankly, Russia and Maria are openly proud of it. Why? Because Russia wants a gold and Maria wants a gold.

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 06:02 PM
SEVERAL LEAGUES - are you serious? Natural ability I would rank Maria 3rd or 4th.

And Goldenlox is right. Sharapova should commit to a year before she is even considered for selection in this strong outfit.

Maria has won Wimbledon, US Open, YEC, a former world number 1, the highest ranked Russian.

Yes she is several leagues above any other Russian player.

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 06:03 PM
What country chooses grass to play Fed Cup ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maria is miles better and achieved far more than Dementieva on every surface other than clay. So grass, hardcourt, indoor.

goldenlox
Oct 8th, 2006, 06:03 PM
Maria is a good player, but so are Sveta and a few others.
Of course, she makes the Russian Olympic team stronger.


But she can play Olympics even if Tarpischev doesn't choose her to play Fed Cup.
And as long as she's not helping the Fed Cup team (playing against Spain doesn't help),
I think Tarpischev should stay with the best players who want to play all year

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 06:05 PM
Maria is a good player, but so are Sveta and a few others.
Of course, she makes the Russian Olympic team stronger.

But she can play Olympics even if Tarpischev doesn't choose her to play Fed Cup.
And as long as she's not helping the Fed Cup team (playing against Spain doesn't help),
I think Tarpischev should stay with the best players who want to play all year

The other Russians are not in the same league as Maria. Maria is a great player, the others are just good.

goldenlox
Oct 8th, 2006, 06:07 PM
The thing about this topic is that Fed Cup isn't until April, and the Olympics are 2 years away.
I'm going to enjoy:D Elena Bovina and the 2006 KC.

I'll get back to this topic after the KC :wavey:

saab95
Oct 8th, 2006, 06:47 PM
There are 5 Russians in the top 10.
Russia won 2 Fed Cup titles without Sharapova.
If she is only committing to playing Spain, then she isn't helping the team at all.
She's just making herself eligible for the Olympics.
that's right
but she is only committing to playing Spain without "if"


So I think Tarpischev shouldn't pick her until Sharapova commits to a full year
That's what Dementieva does. She plays every tie that she can

don't think so
Tarpischev needs tennis wins at the Olympics and some gold for RFT.
Maria's sponsors need Maria's name at the Olympics too.
It's all about money, not sport.

ys
Oct 8th, 2006, 06:57 PM
Isn't it ironic that Maria Sharapova has alot in common with Goldenlox, ys, tenn_ace and millions of other Russians who have moved from Russia to America for a better life? ;)

How can you say which life is better? There is no such concept as better life. People can be equally happy just about anywhere. Happiness is not a function of a geographical location but is just a function of particular mind. I moved entirely because of professional reasons, because my industry is located here and you have to be where the best of your type are. You have to strive to achieve. That's why many players move to here, because this location is optimal for improvement , climate-wise first of all. If I was in any industry related to energy or raw materials, or fundamental science, or space exploration, I'd probably stay. I was just as happy in Russia. I go there several times every year.

the cat
Oct 8th, 2006, 07:09 PM
Good point ys. But I think you're nitpicking a little. ;) I should have included Russians who have moved to America to better their lives and careers. They go hand in hand. And yes you could enjoy life as much or more in Russia than America. We know why many Russian tennis players move to America. It's for the perceived better lives and better training facilities for their careers. I can't blame them. But it does lead to some resentment from some full flegged Russians. Anna Kournikova and Maria Sharapova know all about that. And that's part of the reason Masha was scared to play Moscow and on the Russian Fed Cup team. But she's over that now.

bellascarlett
Oct 8th, 2006, 07:20 PM
How can you say which life is better? There is no such concept as better life. People can be equally happy just about anywhere. Happiness is not a function of a geographical location but is just a function of particular mind. I moved entirely because of professional reasons, because my industry is located here and you have to be where the best of your type are. You have to strive to achieve. That's why many players move to here, because this location is optimal for improvement , climate-wise first of all. If I was in any industry related to energy or raw materials, or fundamental science, or space exploration, I'd probably stay. I was just as happy in Russia. I go there several times every year.

Well you said it. Then I don't understand why some are obviously taking this fact against Maria. Much more, questioning her nationality because of it. The girl moved when she was very little. What do people expect? Of course the circumstances and the environment would have shaped her differently than they would someone who moved for college or for work reasons.

morningglory
Oct 8th, 2006, 07:26 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:
anyway GL isn't Shamil and Maria's joining the team because she's willing to, like it or not :nerner:
The others who don't want her there can either put up or shut up :nerner:

Dementinator
Oct 8th, 2006, 07:43 PM
while its obvious to anyone on this board that I detest MS ,she stands for everything I hate about this comercial world we inhabit ,shes self centered ,money obsessed ,irratating and totally unaware of anyone or anything thats not to do with her ,but ,she IS a great player and WOULD obviously be an asset to the team ,no doubt about that whatsoever,Dementieva is a balanced intelligent girl who knows when something can only help Russias chance to regain the Fed Cup ,therefore she will be more than happy to accept MS into the team ,this is where Lena and Nastya differ ,Nastya is ,as much as i like her ,irrational and will let personal differences effect her descisions ,hence the plumet in form lately. That said ,I cant see Lena and MS becomming great buddies anythime soon ,and MS will ALWAYS be an outsider,shes Russian on her passport ,thats it, but Lena will cheer her on of course ,anyone who thinks she wont is nuts ,she wants her team to win ,the captain should remain Elena ,shes done more for Russia and fed cup ,along with Nastya than anyone ,ability and form should not change that..

My main worry ,and I suspect GLs too ,is that when it really comes down to it ,MS will do a "petrova" and drop them in the deep and smelly stuff from a great height the second something comes along that could swell MS,s bank account or would cause her an inconvience by playing the tie.. she cannot be relied on ,shes as reliable as a babys ass! they say there is no "I" in the word team ,but theres also no Maria Sharapova either....

Either way ,if Maria plays ,it wont bother me ,if it means Russia can win again ,great ,but if she DOES drop them in the shit ,I will organise her death personally....

TeaMMashA
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:00 PM
while its obvious to anyone on this board that I detest MS ,she stands for everything I hate about this comercial world we inhabit ,shes self centered ,money obsessed ,irratating and totally unaware of anyone or anything thats not to do with her

The rest of your analysis to this situation is superb but this is a really bad character judge sorry.

Dementinator
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:02 PM
what you mean TM is you like the stuff where i praise MS but not the stuff where i dont ,expected and fair enough i guess...

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:04 PM
what you mean TM is you like the stuff where i praise MS but not the stuff where i dont ,expected and fair enough i guess...

Well if someone said "shes self centered ,money obsessed ,irratating and totally unaware of anyone or anything thats not to do with her" and directed it at Dementieva I guess you would be annoyed too.

TeaMMashA
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:10 PM
what you mean TM is you like the stuff where i praise MS but not the stuff where i dont ,expected and fair enough i guess...

No its just i dont think someone matching this description "shes self centered ,money obsessed ,irratating and totally unaware of anyone or anything thats not to do with her" would work their arse off for charities and open her own charity, take part in clinics and the rest of it. No matter how much i disliked a person for any reason i would never be able to call someone, something you did that has helped other people to the large extent that she has, what kind of a person would that make me, really? im sitting behind a computer screen giving next to nothing to others in comparison with her, dissing the arse off the girl, that would make me look like an awful person. Who really is the loser in that situation.

smarties
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:16 PM
I detest MS ,she stands for everything I hate about this comercial world we inhabit ,shes self centered ,money obsessed ,irratating and totally unaware of anyone or anything thats not to do with her ....

:rolleyes: Do you personnaly know her to make such a strong statement.

Dementinator
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:24 PM
dudes , i said I ,not anyone else ,i am entitled to MY opinon ,I aint saying its gospel , its what I feel ,and I am not gonna lie and say otherwise to appease MS fans ,sorry. That said no one has to agree and they can take it any way they like... you have to understand that not all people are MS fans ,no ,i dont really know what shes like and niether do any of you ,I only go by what I have seen and heard ,it could all be total bollocks ,I dunno..... anyways ,the point i was making is ,before all the MS squad started throwing their toys out of the stroller was that as far as I am concerend DESPITE my dislike if MS ,I have no probs with her being on fedcup team ,and infact would welcome the idea if it helps things.

teutonicplague
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:26 PM
I dont think there is anything wrong with not liking Maria, she has many likeable qualities but also some not so nice qualities which she has shown both on and off the court.

I am sure the Russian team will be happy enough if she plays for them :)

TeaMMashA
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:41 PM
Its nothing to do with being a fan or not my friend, its about being able to recognise when someone has done something great for others with her own money, time and heart and ends up being called "self centered ,money obsessed ,irratating and totally unaware of anyone or anything thats not to do with her" the fact of the matter is she's working her arse off doing this for others and theres always going to be people who think that it makes them a better person for dissing their supposed attributes. Who really is the loser in that situation, just think about that.

Im not saying she has a perfect personallity, it just angers me when people dont recognise good things about other people even if they do dislike them, and turn to diss them about stuff they supposedly lack, when she would clearly need all these attributes to do what shes done. And then they believe they are the better person.

Dementinator
Oct 8th, 2006, 08:49 PM
oh in no way do i believe i am a better person TM me old pal , :lol: far from it , I am probably a right shit i guess.... i have no delusions of grandeur whatsoever , i have many many faults.... being infatuated with Lena D is simply one of many.... so i aint standing here (well sitting really) and saying I am better than Ms cos a clearly aint ,dont have many millions in the bank for a start ,i aint no good at tennis ,not over 6ft tall ,and only average looking at best ,oh and I fart in the bath too ,but dont tell anyone else that ,plus i once used the front of my Land Rover to move somesones car out of the way when they blocked me in ..so.. although I dont think i am quite headed downstairs into the fires of hell just yet ,give me time , i certainly dont think i am beter than anyone....

Nickitos2006
Oct 8th, 2006, 09:22 PM
Wow! That's great news about GoldenLox :hehehe:. She doesn't live in Russia. She spend all her time in US. She doesn't even speak Russian (at least I couldn't see the opposite). And I guess she yet to play Fed Cup for Russia :haha: So following her stupid logic she can't call herself Russian AT ALL. So change your avatar, GL and stop judging things and ideas which you don't know inside and which u aren't connected with :wavey:

ys
Oct 8th, 2006, 09:24 PM
And for one, I happen to think that with all things that are told about Maria - she'll make an excellent teammate. I remember seeing her playing doubles I can not imagine her pulling out "petrova" ever, this girl is never-say-die. And Nadya had a long history of retirements, so that was not a big surprise , really.

ys
Oct 8th, 2006, 09:30 PM
Seriously, the team of Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Dementieva and Safina will bulldoze anyone on any surface, other than Belgium on clay ( and that tie is not going to happen any time soon, and when it happens, Belgium will be far from tennis superpower ). Even if USA with Williamses and Davenport arise from ashes ( which is not going to happen either ) we'd beat them even on grass or hardcourts.

Corswandt
Oct 8th, 2006, 09:49 PM
the captain should remain Elena ,shes done more for Russia and fed cup ,along with Nastya than anyone ,ability and form should not change that..

Why is it that the criteria for inclusion on the Russian Fed Cup squad are never current moment of form/surface/opponents like they should be, but rather highly subjective stuff like being a "true Russian" or not, or past services to the Motherland?

Dementinator
Oct 8th, 2006, 10:12 PM
i was talking about captain not the fucking team...... the team should be made up of the best players available ,i aint questioning that ..

RussiaTennis
Oct 8th, 2006, 10:14 PM
i was talking about captain not the fucking team...... the team should be made up of the best players available ,i aint questioning that ..

Well I think Sharapova should be the captain as she is the main player and the best by far.

Dementinator
Oct 8th, 2006, 10:22 PM
nah dont think so.

Lefty.
Oct 8th, 2006, 10:53 PM
Well I think Sharapova should be the captain as she is the main player and the best by far.

And that means she should be able to shove all the other players who have dedicated much of their career to Fed Cup aside?

Corswandt
Oct 8th, 2006, 11:02 PM
i was talking about captain not the fucking team...... the team should be made up of the best players available ,i aint questioning that ..

Fuck, I didn't even know the fucking team had a fucking captain. :o

TeaMMashA
Oct 8th, 2006, 11:09 PM
Dementinator i dont mean anything bad by all this i have nothing against you in fact i think your a cool guy i think you know that anyway, i dont let peoples hatred for my favourites get in the way of trying to get on with someone unless its straight up annoying and is continously stating it!,i just get a little annoyed when people forget some of the things Maria does for people.

WIMBLY2004
Oct 9th, 2006, 12:35 AM
Well, maybe tomorrow Dementieva will say how she feels uncomfortable with Maria in the team, who knows, she and Myskina keep playing these bad-mouth/good words tricks everyday, just not worth paying attention to.

Dementinator
Oct 9th, 2006, 10:19 AM
Well, maybe tomorrow Dementieva will say how she feels uncomfortable with Maria in the team, who knows, she and Myskina keep playing these bad-mouth/good words tricks everyday, just not worth paying attention to.


Cant speak for Nastya ,but to my knowledge Lena has NEVER bad mouthed Maria ,I aint saying they are buddies ,how could they be ,but Lena will want whats best for the team ,and if thats having MS there ,then she will be more than happy for that to happen ,lena is a team player and any personal differences, and I dont think there are any ,will be left away from the courtside.

The reason I feel Lena should be captain ,is simple ,sure MS is the highest current Russian player ,but Lena IS the most experienced at fed cup ,plus past services ,despite what Corswandt thinks SHOULD count for something ,and also Lena will be good at keeping them all together ,the others will listen to her and if any bitching takes place ,Lenas got the physique to start banging heads together!! :fiery: ,but seriously ,Lena makes a good captain ,a team consisting of the MS ,SVeta ,Lena and most likely Safina is gonna be damn hard to beat ,even for the beligians ,no one else even stands a chance...

I dont know where people get this "bad" feeling about Lena and MS ,I think they respect each other a lot , I think it goes back to when Masha won wimb 04 and Lena said she didnt see it ,well ,so what ,she prob doesnt watch tennis when she aint playing and she doesnt really KNOW MS , they are different characters totally and prob dont come into contact that much outside playing...

TeaMMashA
Oct 9th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Lena deserves to be captain, its the same in any sport usually the most experience will gain captaincy but everyone knows Maria deserve place in team, and Lena and Maria will make a great team.

Filippo-Nastya
Oct 9th, 2006, 10:34 AM
Well, maybe tomorrow Dementieva will say how she feels uncomfortable with Maria in the team, who knows, she and Myskina keep playing these bad-mouth/good words tricks everyday, just not worth paying attention to.

Nastya has no problem with Maria, she (Nastya) simply doesn't like Yuri's behaviour.

ys
Oct 11th, 2006, 01:11 AM
Lena on Fed Cup's participation

" I think that in this competition ( Fed Cup ) everyone has one's own objectives. Some want to earn Russia a great triumph, and others use it to get to Olympics"

the cat
Oct 11th, 2006, 03:28 PM
ys, I can't disagree with Elena's statement. It makes sense and it's true.

I think Elena and Maria will headline a great Russian Fed Cup team in 2007 as long as they are both healthy. And I think they get along better than people think. I know Masha respects Elena and I'm sure Elena respects Masha. They don't have to be friends to be a good team. It will be an akward situation for Masha to play on Russia's Fed Cup team after having never played for Russia in a team event before. But I expect her Russina teammates to make her feel comfortable. If they do Masha will play well. If they don't then she could struggle. And let's be glad Goldenlox isn't one of Maria's teammates. :eek: ;)

P.S. - What's all this talk about team captain? Shamil Tarpischev is the Russian Fed Cup team team captain and no one else. Elena will be the leader of the team but won't be the captain.

Aaron68
Oct 11th, 2006, 04:40 PM
This is good news for Russian tennis and for Maria herself. I can't see Russia losing to anyone with Elena and Masha both on the team.

It's funny that so many people seem to think Maria is a total bitch. I don't know the woman, but she has always struck me as a nice girl who would be easy to get along with.

And this could mean a gold medal for Russia in the '08 Olympics, too. Not that Elena couldn't win it herself, but with Maria ... wow.

Anyhow, good luck Maria, and good luck Russia.

Coffee&TV
Oct 11th, 2006, 04:42 PM
Lena and Masha :kiss: