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no.ordinary.love
Oct 2nd, 2006, 09:43 PM
Year after year this tournament gets neglected by the WTA. Uzbekistan is perhaps not the most attractive place on earth to play tennis but on the other side this developing country is showing a lot of enthusiasm for tennis sport finding the necessary money for this tournament as well as for a few ATP challengers.
The fact that this year´s draw is again very poor (no top 50 player by today`s ranking) might lead to the conclusion that the WTA is more interested in big money than in the developing of the tennis worldwide. It is the only WTA tournament in this part of the world (huge area of central Asia). Sending there a "big name" of tennis would be an important signal not only for tennis but also for womens rights in this and neighbour countries by one of the richest and the most powerfull organisations in womens sport.
Nobody should say it is impossible. Martina Hingis was last week in Seoul (also tier IV) and last year Nadia Petrova was "forced" to go all the way from Europe to Bangkok (tier III) and back between Filderstadt and Zurich missing her "domestic" tournament in Moscow.
Sport needs visions...

pierce0415
Oct 2nd, 2006, 09:46 PM
WTA sent Na Li this year but she is injured

Paul.
Oct 2nd, 2006, 09:47 PM
they have supermAnne - thats all they need :lol:

Shonami Slam
Oct 2nd, 2006, 09:54 PM
fran and iroda were big names there once upon a decade ago (it only seems so...)
but these are the sole three tourny weeks of the year - it's extremely diffoicult to get the big names from europe - we don't have enough asian top players.
don't forget that uzbekistan is the only country with a real tennis spirit o it within the neighboring countries - but at the moment only russians are going there by the mass. what about the georgians, turks, indians, thai, indonesian players - they could have created a very nice field together.
the timing is a problem - but asian tennis should award WCs for the national champs, the asian games champs, give out WCs to usually classical doubles specialtists - make it into a real asian tennis festival. it can be great, but it requires a shift of piorities - playing home and not far far away fighting for the last few points.

borisy
Oct 2nd, 2006, 10:09 PM
they have supermAnne - thats all they need :lol:

Someone is trying to make a good point in this thread and you come up with this great "joke" :rolleyes:

Paul.
Oct 2nd, 2006, 10:10 PM
Someone is trying to make a good point in this thread and you come up with this great "joke" :rolleyes:
says the king of 'good points' :lol:

Babolatpro880
Oct 2nd, 2006, 10:10 PM
It looks like it's played in a public park, which might have something to do with it.

Paul.
Oct 2nd, 2006, 10:20 PM
Year after year this tournament gets neglected by the WTA. Uzbekistan is perhaps not the most attractive place on earth to play tennis but on the other side this developing country is showing a lot of enthusiasm for tennis sport finding the necessary money for this tournament as well as for a few ATP challengers.
The fact that this year´s draw is again very poor (no top 50 player by today`s ranking) might lead to the conclusion that the WTA is more interested in big money than in the developing of the tennis worldwide. It is the only WTA tournament in this part of the world (huge area of central Asia). Sending there a "big name" of tennis would be an important signal not only for tennis but also for womens rights in this and neighbour countries by one of the richest and the most powerfull organisations in womens sport.
Nobody should say it is impossible. Martina Hingis was last week in Seoul (also tier IV) and last year Nadia Petrova was "forced" to go all the way from Europe to Bangkok (tier III) and back between Filderstadt and Zurich missing her "domestic" tournament in Moscow.
Sport needs visions...ironically, tashkent has had winners that in the present have become big names such as vaidisova, krajicek and i guess ruano pascual to a certain extent.

i think that the location of the event is such a huge factor. a lot would have to be done before a big name would agree to play there. i think a lot of players just see it as a big chance to win a WTA tour event because, in reality, it sports the same kind of field as a $75k

drake3781
Oct 2nd, 2006, 11:20 PM
Year after year this tournament gets neglected by the WTA. Uzbekistan is perhaps not the most attractive place on earth to play tennis but on the other side this developing country is showing a lot of enthusiasm for tennis sport finding the necessary money for this tournament as well as for a few ATP challengers.
The fact that this year´s draw is again very poor (no top 50 player by today`s ranking) might lead to the conclusion that the WTA is more interested in big money than in the developing of the tennis worldwide. It is the only WTA tournament in this part of the world (huge area of central Asia). Sending there a "big name" of tennis would be an important signal not only for tennis but also for womens rights in this and neighbour countries by one of the richest and the most powerfull organisations in womens sport.
Nobody should say it is impossible. Martina Hingis was last week in Seoul (also tier IV) and last year Nadia Petrova was "forced" to go all the way from Europe to Bangkok (tier III) and back between Filderstadt and Zurich missing her "domestic" tournament in Moscow.
Sport needs visions...

I agree with you. What to do about it?

clonesheep
Oct 2nd, 2006, 11:33 PM
Year after year this tournament gets neglected by the WTA. Uzbekistan is perhaps not the most attractive place on earth to play tennis but on the other side this developing country is showing a lot of enthusiasm for tennis sport finding the necessary money for this tournament as well as for a few ATP challengers.
The fact that this year´s draw is again very poor (no top 50 player by today`s ranking) might lead to the conclusion that the WTA is more interested in big money than in the developing of the tennis worldwide. It is the only WTA tournament in this part of the world (huge area of central Asia). Sending there a "big name" of tennis would be an important signal not only for tennis but also for womens rights in this and neighbour countries by one of the richest and the most powerfull organisations in womens sport.
Nobody should say it is impossible. Martina Hingis was last week in Seoul (also tier IV) and last year Nadia Petrova was "forced" to go all the way from Europe to Bangkok (tier III) and back between Filderstadt and Zurich missing her "domestic" tournament in Moscow.
Sport needs visions...
Seoul actually has big sponsor money. They were even able to get Sharapova the year she won Wimbledon. I remember Sharapova received much more in appearance fee than the prize money for winning it. Also, the organizer put her in the most expensive hotel suite that costs $5,000 a night. I suspect that Hingis was likewise paid some extra $$$ for her appearance this year.

All is not lost, though. At least Tashkent still gets Elena Vesnina and Vika Azarenka. I will watch these two over many top 50 players.

LH2HBH
Oct 2nd, 2006, 11:38 PM
says the king of 'good points' :lol:


:lol:

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 2nd, 2006, 11:40 PM
It snowed there two years ago and yet the WTA still is putting some effort in the tourni.
The tournament is not there to bring in big players.
The tournament is there to help up-and-comers in that area of Asia and those around the world who are willing to play these tournis.

Records in the last year have shown that the players who opt to play these weaker tournis are the future of tennis.
Nicole Vaidisova won in 2004. Kraijcek won in 2005.
Jankovic, Ivanovic, Peer, Vaidisova, Sharapova, Safina, Mirza
are the name of players who have won weak Tier IVs and Vs in the last couple of years.
Alona might be added to that list this week.
So please just shut up about Tashkent.

no.ordinary.love
Oct 2nd, 2006, 11:59 PM
It snowed there two years ago and yet the WTA still is putting some effort in the tourni.
The tournament is not there to bring in big players.
The tournament is there to help up-and-comers in that area of Asia and those around the world who are willing to play these tournis.

Records in the last year have shown that the players who opt to play these weaker tournis are the future of tennis.
Nicole Vaidisova won in 2004. Kraijcek won in 2005.
Jankovic, Ivanovic, Peer, Vaidisova, Sharapova, Safina, Mirza
are the name of players who have won weak Tier IVs and Vs in the last couple of years.
Alona might be added to that list this week.
So please just shut up about Tashkent.


It is hard the understand your harsh comment.
"The tournament is not there to bring in big players" you say. I still think it is a pity that exactly this tournament, the only one in an area which is as big as Europe, has the absolutely weekest field in the whole year.
It should be an obligation of the WTA to support regional development of tennis and with only Na Li (comitted but withdrew) I really do not see "the WTA putting some effort in this tournament" - as you said.

New
Oct 3rd, 2006, 12:08 AM
Hmmm... Maybe it just so happen that this year that this event is not part of the players schedule?

They do have Tammy and Iroda who are both making comebacks...

And Sania, who does draw a big crowd..

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 3rd, 2006, 12:18 AM
It is hard the understand your harsh comment.
"The tournament is not there to bring in big players" you say. I still think it is a pity that exactly this tournament, the only one in an area which is as big as Europe, has the absolutely weekest field in the whole year.
It should be an obligation of the WTA to support regional development of tennis and with only Na Li (comitted but withdrew) I really do not see "the WTA putting some effort in this tournament" - as you said.

Giving players from that area the opportunity to play an WTA sanctioned event and building fanbases for the future of tennis through up-and-comers on tour IS a way that the WTA is supporting regional tennis there.

The people that went to the event a couple of years ago got to see Nicole Vaidisova before she became a top ten player.
There's something special about that.

BTW, Alona is ranked number 33 this week, so your comment about there not being a top 50 player in the draw with today's ranking is wrong.

There are 92 players playing this week.
There has been 90 plus players playing on tour in WTA sanctioned tournis for the 3rd straight week.
It's as good as it's gonna get.

drake3781
Oct 3rd, 2006, 12:31 AM
It snowed there two years ago and yet the WTA still is putting some effort in the tourni.
The tournament is not there to bring in big players.
The tournament is there to help up-and-comers in that area of Asia and those around the world who are willing to play these tournis.

Records in the last year have shown that the players who opt to play these weaker tournis are the future of tennis.
Nicole Vaidisova won in 2004. Kraijcek won in 2005.
Jankovic, Ivanovic, Peer, Vaidisova, Sharapova, Safina, Mirza
are the name of players who have won weak Tier IVs and Vs in the last couple of years.
Alona might be added to that list this week.
So please just shut up about Tashkent.

It snowed? Now that you say that, I think I remember hearing that, but it's in the 90's F this week there!?!?!

I was actually curious enough about Tashkent and Uzbekistan over the last weekend to do a little internet research on it.... what is it like there? Tahskent is described as an education and technology center (although the tournament has no website). I found only three hotels in Taskhent. Interestingly (and sadly) there was a major earthquake in the '60's which left 300,000 (!!) people homeless. The city was subsequently rebuilt from the ground up. It is the only central Asian city with a modern Metro system.

I continue to be mystified about Agkul Ammanduranova, from Uzbekistan. Why is this potential talent being left without any development? Does nobody care? Is it money? Is it culture/religion? Maybe it's the weather ;) .

This is pretty much OT, but there are some points about that location to explore as a part of answering the OP question.

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 3rd, 2006, 12:41 AM
Martina Hingis was last week in Seoul (also tier IV) and last year Nadia Petrova was "forced" to go all the way from Europe to Bangkok (tier III) and back between Filderstadt and Zurich missing her "domestic" tournament in Moscow.
Sport needs visions...

If you mean Nadia Petrova forced herself to go to Bangkok so she could get that no tourni wins stigma off her chest then yes she was forced.
Martina I'm sure did get a nice appearance fee but if you've noticed Martina's schedule, she's trying to make sure not to bore herself with the same schedule she use to do for 6-7 years before she retired.

no.ordinary.love
Oct 3rd, 2006, 12:52 AM
If you mean Nadia Petrova forced herself to go to Bangkok so she could get that no tourni wins stigma off her chest then yes she was forced.
Martina I'm sure did get a nice appearance fee but if you've noticed Martina's schedule, she's trying to make sure not to bore herself with the same schedule she use to do for 6-7 years before she retired.


No, there were rumors that the WTA has "forced" her to go there because they have promised to the organizers a top 10 player. And if they have so much power over players, they should have done something similar for Tashkent and not allow a field which could be expected for a better challenger.

Wannabeknowitall
Oct 3rd, 2006, 01:00 AM
No, there were rumors that the WTA has "forced" her to go there because they have promised to the organizers a top 10 player. And if they have so much power over players, they should have done something similar for Tashkent and not allow a field which could be expected for a better challenger.

It was just that, a rumor.
Petrova has a 5-6 main draw record at Moscow.
It might be a "domestic" tourni but not one she does well with.
She was trying to make the YEC and win a tourni and Bangkok was one that could have helped her with both of those accomplishments unlike Moscow.
It never looks appealing making the YEC and not winning a tourni that same year.
Dementieva would know something about that. :tape: