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Zippy
Aug 6th, 2006, 03:05 PM
Neither has won jack, but both are two of the biggest names and players most covered (by media) in their respective sports. I guess in sports, Sex Sales! All you need to be is a female with a young pretty looking face, and you're instantly a star. See A.Kornikova who NEVER even won a singles tournament in the WTA, as example 'A'.

égalité
Aug 6th, 2006, 04:53 PM
... :retard:

Anna Kournikova was ranked #8 in the world, reached several Tier I finals, an Australian Open Quarterfinal, a Wimbledon Semifinal, and has career wins over Kim Clijsters, Lindsay Davenport, Jennifer Capriati, Conchita Martinez, and Monica Seles. Oh, and she was #1 in the world in doubles and won two Grand Slams

Danica Patrick is a top ranked driver and finished fourth at the Indy 500 after leading for nineteen laps I think.

It's not that having a pretty face makes you a star- it's that having a pretty face makes everyone expect you to be a star. If Anna were ugly, she'd just be a very good tennis player who was forced to retire due to injuries.

njnetswill
Aug 6th, 2006, 07:22 PM
Wie has finished runner up at a major before. STFU.

*JR*
Aug 6th, 2006, 07:23 PM
If Anna were ugly, she'd just be a very good tennis player who was forced to retire due to injuries.
Without the hype machines of IMG and then Octagon, this onetime "another very pretty girl, like one can find on beaches all ova the world" would be that, and nothing more.

wta_zuperfann
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Danica is in the top 10 in IRL points and won Rookie of the Year honors. It is acknowledged in open wheel racing circles that her presence in the circuit has increased the size of the TV audience. As with AnnaK, she has also caused a huge increase in the sale of the sport's merchandise products. That generates a great deal of revenue.

As most of us know, a sport cannot thrive without merchandizing and both girls have done a great deal for their sports.

Black Mamba.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:06 PM
I can't lump danica and Michelle together because Danica is right on schedule in terms of winning races as her male counterparts were in their second seasons. She has more pressure on her than the male drivers that have yet to win a race at the conclusion of their second race mainly because of the exposure she gets. Danica is well respected by her peers and many believe that she belongs out there and she has the talent to win on that level. The difference between Golf and car racing is that car racing is based more heavily on the equipment than golf is. Sure golf clubs range from company to company, but a really talented golfer ie... Tiger Woods can still win using so called inferior equipment. Danica has used a car that didn't have what it takes to allow her to beat faster and better cars. This is why she switched racing teams and if she can't win with her new racing team next year then I'll say she's overhyped, but until then I won't.

Martian Willow
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:37 PM
Danica is a novelty act. Nothing more, nothing less.

égalité
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:39 PM
Danica is a novelty act. Nothing more, nothing less.

>_>

A top-ranked novelty act.

Martian Willow
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:42 PM
Shes not top ranked in anything. Shes midfield in a championship nobody gives a toss about. :)

Martian Willow
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Or, nobody gave a toss about before Danica was in it.

*JR*
Aug 6th, 2006, 11:10 PM
I personally don't watch auto racing. (I just hope it doesn't indirectly contribute to the deadly drag racing a lot of kids do). But anyhow, even if Danica is "on schedule" with the male drivers, she's done nothing 2B earning boatloads more $ than a guy @ the same level. Funny, we had a few threads about the Wimby pay differential, and here's someone making several times more than a guy @ her level because she's female. (OK, a pretty one, FWIW).

Re. merchandising, funny too. Any time I've pointed out the obvious here, that a celebrity endorsing a particular brand of (fill in the blank) doesn't mean that its magically better than the competing brands, ppl have agreed that they personally wouldn't be influenced by that kind of irrelevant thing, and nobody ever said they would.

Call me old-fashioned, but I think the pay structure in pro sports (and I realize a lot of it is funded by sponsors, not ticket sales) is generous enough that the competitors don't "need" to engage in this charade of "buy X because I'm in a commercial for it". Re. event sponsorship? Hell, even the scrollbar on the website of the Sony-Ericsson WTA Tour lists the cities, not the sponsor names, a tacit admission I guess that the fans think in terminology like "Stanford", not "Bank of the West Classic".

So even if commercialism is a "necessary nuisance" with a bunch of suits getting to do the trophy presentations as if anyone in the crowd gives a good GD what company they represent, lets not act like the (tennis players, for example) would be cutting hair instead if the winner of a Slam "only" got lets say $250,000 instead of a million plus. Sometime (if you haven't seen it already) watch the movie Hoop Dreams, and see the "other side of sports", that distracts kids from their schoolwork etc. B4 "spitting out" the vast majority of them.

A_S
Aug 7th, 2006, 12:23 AM
Danica has used a car that didn't have what it takes to allow her to beat faster and better cars

actually to an extent that is untrue. To my knowledge the weight rules in the IRL wiegh the car without driver, and danica is a lot lighter than all the male drivers therefore her combined car/driver weight is substantially less than that of her competitors, which in high speed oval racing is a major advantage. Danica patrick is a decent driver, no question, but she is no better than that, her PR machine is where the success lyes.

ZeroSOFInfinity
Aug 7th, 2006, 12:28 AM
What do they have in common?
They are both beautiful and sweet.

What they do not have in common?
Danica is a normal-sized woman, while Michelle Wie is a towering Amazon.

Black Mamba.
Aug 7th, 2006, 01:05 AM
actually to an extent that is untrue. To my knowledge the weight rules in the IRL wiegh the car without driver, and danica is a lot lighter than all the male drivers therefore her combined car/driver weight is substantially less than that of her competitors, which in high speed oval racing is a major advantage. Danica patrick is a decent driver, no question, but she is no better than that, her PR machine is where the success lyes.


All the cars from letterman racing have been crap all season long and everyone in the industry know it. If she doesn't win with the cars from Andretti Green then I'll change my tune, but all the drivers from letterman racing have struggled to compete this year.

Jeff
Aug 7th, 2006, 02:05 AM
I don't watch golf, but I do know the Michelle Wie was given the chance to try to qualify for the Men's U.S. Open, which I think is obserd. The women need to stick to their own sport. I sort of understood when Anika Sorenstam was given the opportunity, considering she's a legend to the tour, but Michelle is still an amateur. Unless she is absolutely dominating the women's tour, winning week-in-week-out with no clear competition, then I don't think she should be allowed to try and qualify for a men's event.

LegionArgentina
Aug 7th, 2006, 02:46 AM
I don't watch golf, but I do know the Michelle Wie was given the chance to try to qualify for the Men's U.S. Open, which I think is obserd. The women need to stick to their own sport. I sort of understood when Anika Sorenstam was given the opportunity, considering she's a legend to the tour, but Michelle is still an amateur. Unless she is absolutely dominating the women's tour, winning week-in-week-out with no clear competition, then I don't think she should be allowed to try and qualify for a men's event.

:worship: :worship:

Black Mamba.
Aug 7th, 2006, 02:50 AM
I don't watch golf, but I do know the Michelle Wie was given the chance to try to qualify for the Men's U.S. Open, which I think is obserd. The women need to stick to their own sport. I sort of understood when Anika Sorenstam was given the opportunity, considering she's a legend to the tour, but Michelle is still an amateur. Unless she is absolutely dominating the women's tour, winning week-in-week-out with no clear competition, then I don't think she should be allowed to try and qualify for a men's event.


All these tournaments care about is $$$$$. If I were on the board of a men's PGA event and Tiger, Phil, VJay, etc weren't avaliable you better believe i'd give Michelle a chance to compete because her pressence in the tournament equals more media coverage, greater attendance, and most importantly money in my pocket. This is how they PGA folks think and they'll try to milk Michelle as much as they can.

Epigone
Aug 7th, 2006, 02:53 AM
Shes not top ranked in anything. Shes midfield in a championship nobody gives a toss about. :):worship:

The Irrelevant Racing League is meaningless

It's the answer to a question that nobody asked

The Indianapolis 500 has become a joke because of one idiot's thirst for power

Danica Patrick led the Indy 500 last year because she was on a different pit sequence to the other drivers. During the race, she stalled in the pits and also caused a crash under a yellow flag that took out a number of cars (for which she wasn't penalised :rolleyes: ). Her actions also led to Sebastien Bourdais crashing at the end of the race :(

She hasn't won a race (excluding the Toyota Celebrity Race @ the Long Beach GP) since she was in karts (which would be something like 1999?), and she doesn't exactly look comfortable when running in traffic now.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happen.