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Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:55 AM
Being an arts student and discovering the pointlessness of my degree i was just wondering if my fate is a McDonalds restaurant near you?

Discuss

Crazy Canuck
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:58 AM
If you're lucky, your town might have various call centres that really only require highschool education, but would be more than happy to have you!

ceiling_fan
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:59 AM
yep. that is what u get when u do an arts degree... sorry to say it :P

Prizeidiot
Aug 6th, 2006, 07:01 AM
No... you could combine it with education, then become an arts teacher! :)

Actually, if I'd done that they would have been throwing scholarships at me (male teaching, it's gold)

Crazy Canuck
Aug 6th, 2006, 07:12 AM
As prizeidiot has pointed out, you can do plenty with an arts degree - but you must go back to school and specialize in something first. General arts degrees are just that... general. If you want to mesh with zee real world, you generally need to find something else to compliment zee arts degree if you'd like to improve your financial situation any.

There are exceptions ot the rule, of course :)

Jeff
Aug 6th, 2006, 07:30 AM
As an art major, you should have a creative mind to think of something to use the degree for ;) Talk to your instructors for advice, talk to other professionals for advice.

lk89
Aug 6th, 2006, 07:44 AM
You may be able to get a well paying factory job. jk.
You could go into an art therapy program or you could become an arts teacher or get your degree in education.

Sam L
Aug 6th, 2006, 07:53 AM
If you just have a plain arts degree you will need to be lucky to find the right job you're after. I guess there are two important variables.

What major/s are you doing? What sort of job would you like to work in?

You can't really work out or try to work out your fate until you've answered those two questions.

Personally, I wish I had done an Arts degree with majors in languages (English and a foreign language). I would've combined this with an Education degree and use it to become a teacher.

But I have no regrets I'm happy with my current career direction and I'm learning foreign languages now anyway.

bionic71
Aug 6th, 2006, 08:33 AM
Arts degree have lots of scope...
As mentioned above...what are your majors???

I am am an Arts graduate (English Literature and History). I also sub-majored in Psychology. I added Education to my degree program during my study, and years later I complete a Grad Cert in Career Education.

You can pretty much tailor an Arts program to suit your interests and career direction...there is plently of flexibility in the programs. Therefore I disagree that it is a deadend option.
I was employed as an editor for a number of magazines when I first finished university...I later decided to do some teaching...which then morphed into Careers Counselling. I still do some editing part-time and also coach a little tennis when I have the time (it helps with the mortgage!).

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:29 AM
My Majors are history and languages (Arabic and Spanish) and let me just tell you -TEACHING IS NOT AN OPTION! i cannot think of a more futile existance

plus i haven't finished yet and i really don't know what to do.

bionic71
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:34 AM
My Majors are history and languages (Arabic and Spanish) and let me just tell you -TEACHING IS NOT AN OPTION! i cannot think of a more futile existance

plus i haven't finished yet and i really don't know what to do.

Far from futile I can assure you....in my case teaching has been a rather fertile and rewarding.

Have you considered interpreting....plently of Govt jobs on offer.

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:39 AM
yeah pretty boring ...i might just go on and do law...but i don't think i'm smart enough...meh i don't know

Prizeidiot
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:48 AM
yeah pretty boring ...i might just go on and do law...but i don't think i'm smart enough...meh i don't know
"I might just go on and do law" :lol:

I dno why, but that sounds funny. You say it like it would just be for laughs!

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:51 AM
lol i am so confused...why didn't i just become an accountant i could have been working right now!

bionic71
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:53 AM
Don't get into too much of a panic about what career area you might like to pursue...
My partner studied Architecture for 6 yrs...worked for a few years after graduating and then decided to take a break...he now works at Sydney Uni (moved from UTS a month ago) running the Study Abroad and Exchange Program, a great job that he loves....good money, great travel. He would never have thought that he might be working outside of the Architecture field at all...however it has been 6 years since he stopped working as an architect and at this stage he has no real intention to return to it full time.

Prizeidiot
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:53 AM
Oh my goodness, don't say that!

Accounting SUCKS HARD!!! (it's the second worst thing I've ever done, after Economics :o)

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:56 AM
lol see i'm scraping the barrel!

i don't know i should just try and pass this semester...it's gonna be hard! ahhh

Hows the comm/sci going at Sydney uni (fuck that place makes me angry!)

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:57 AM
Don't get into too much of a panic about what career area you might like to pursue...
My partner studied Architecture for 6 yrs...worked for a few years after graduating and then decided to take a break...he now works at Sydney Uni (moved from UTS a month ago) running the Study Abroad and Exchange Program, a great job that he loves....good money, great travel. He would never have thought that he might be working outside of the Architecture field at all.
OMG could he give me a scholarship :D???i really want to study abroad sydney uni is totally fucked!

Prizeidiot
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:58 AM
lol see i'm scraping the barrel!

i don't know i should just try and pass this semester...it's gonna be hard! ahhh

Hows the comm/sci going at Sydney uni (fuck that place makes me angry!)
Pretty weak.... Commerce will get me a job, but it just could not be more crap!

Science is pretty cool though.

I say to you, just keep passing and see where that takes you!

bionic71
Aug 6th, 2006, 09:59 AM
OMG could he give me a scholarship :D???i really want to study abroad sydney uni is totally fucked!

;)

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:00 AM
yeah i am doing pretty well tho i'm not sure about this semester...i can't express myself properly in public and there are so many history nerds in my course! :scared:so i'm fucked in that respect

fufuqifuqishahah
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:00 AM
As prizeidiot has pointed out, you can do plenty with an arts degree - but you must go back to school and specialize in something first. General arts degrees are just that... general. If you want to mesh with zee real world, you generally need to find something else to compliment zee arts degree if you'd like to improve your financial situation any.

There are exceptions ot the rule, of course :)

correct. :) you better start taking yourself in a direction now.
you can do design, product design, stage design, logo design, fashion design, blah design, toilet cover design, ___ design, etc. lol
you can work in advertisting, marketing, art teacher, work as a graphic designer, website designer... something. you can't just do ART anymore, you have to have something else that can go with your art background.

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:01 AM
;)
anyway i think any uni i want to goto doesn't have a partnership program with usyd (go figure!)

and my parents wouldn't let me go ...i don't know why i got kicked out today...

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:02 AM
correct. :) you better start taking yourself in a direction now.
you can do design, product design, stage design, logo design, fashion design, blah design, toilet cover design, ___ design, etc. lol
you can work in advertisting, marketing, art teacher, work as a graphic designer, website designer... something. you can't just do ART anymore, you have to have something else that can go with your art background.
art as in the liberal arts - languages, history, english all of those humanities subjects :)

Prizeidiot
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:03 AM
;)
Can I have a scholarship too? :p

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:08 AM
hey i started the thread! :p

Prizeidiot
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Hey, you're not the only one doing a crappy degree at USYD! You can't have all the scholarships! :lol:

Prizeidiot
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:11 AM
And yes, scholarships are now physical assets that people can just give away :p

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:19 AM
lol i hate usyd! but all the other unis are so ugly!

Pheobo
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:23 AM
I majored in music theory and minored in creative writing...but I ended up playing bass in a band that "made it" (I hate that term) in the underground scene and so touring and stuff gave me pretty good money that I was/am (I'd like to think) smart with...so with that I'm set for now and I do some instruction out of a local music store.

So I really haven't even had to use my music theory degree yet :p Although I would like to get a job sooner or later as a band teacher at a high school.

Prizeidiot
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:27 AM
lol i hate usyd! but all the other unis are so ugly!
Hahaha... yeah that put me off UTS

But I bet at UTS there are no hippies! :p

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:28 AM
oh cool

i don't know if teaching is what i want to do though....i remember how annoying i was as a student -and i was one of the good ones!

meh i think i'll just do law....

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Hahaha... yeah that put me off UTS

But I bet at UTS there are no hippies! :p
OMG those socialist alt ppl lol

i mean its cool they r so passionate about it but don't force it down other peoples throats puhleeese!

did u ever see the guy with the blonde afro and the red velvet skirt?

bionic71
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:34 AM
correct. :) you better start taking yourself in a direction now.
you can do design, product design, stage design, logo design, fashion design, blah design, toilet cover design, ___ design, etc. lol
you can work in advertisting, marketing, art teacher, work as a graphic designer, website designer... something. you can't just do ART anymore, you have to have something else that can go with your art background.

I think there is some confusion with terminolgy going on here folks.....we are talking liberal arts not fine arts.

An ARTS degree is the standard 3 year bachelor program....the program does not neccessary involve the study of Art.
You can for example study a Bachelor Of Arts degree in Philosophy, History, Commerce, English.....any subject domain area.

Princess Sarah.
Aug 6th, 2006, 10:35 AM
maybe i should put something in the threads title..?

Nicjac
Aug 6th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Being an arts student and discovering the pointlessness of my degree i was just wondering if my fate is a McDonalds restaurant near you?

Discuss

Oh ye of little faith.

The door is wide open.

For example:http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html

President Bush was born on July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut, and grew up in Midland and Houston, Texas. He received a bachelor’s degree in history from Yale University in 1968.

Nicjac
Aug 6th, 2006, 02:48 PM
Or look at him

http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/vpbio.html

Mr. Cheney was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, on January 30, 1941 and grew up in Casper, Wyoming. He earned his bachelor's and master's of arts degrees from the University of Wyoming.

Now I wonder about Condoleeza ...

Nicjac
Aug 6th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Condoleezza

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981.

Well, at least someone in that club studied politics even if it doesn't really show. :tape:

And I keep wondering how she managed to finish her master degree in one year, while it took her six years to complete the PhD.

Sam L
Aug 6th, 2006, 03:24 PM
Oh ye of little faith.

The door is wide open.

For example:http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html

President Bush was born on July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut, and grew up in Midland and Houston, Texas. He received a bachelor’s degree in history from Yale University in 1968.
He also did an MBA at Harvard though. :p

BTW, I'm also studying at USYD guys. Anyone from USYD? :D

I did a degree before at UNSW. I think USYD is the best Australian university.

hurricanejeanne
Aug 6th, 2006, 03:54 PM
Lol, I had to laugh when I saw this thread.
As an arts student myself, (major graphic/web design; minor illustration) I often find myself wondering the same question. But that's more because I'm a slacker and not because of my major.

The Daviator
Aug 6th, 2006, 03:57 PM
Don't diss Arts students :armed:

Having said that, you're probably right :lol:

esquímaux
Aug 6th, 2006, 04:20 PM
Interesting topic! I was a phenomenal arts (visual) student back in high school, but the "starving artist" notion kept me from pursuing a career in that field. It's blatantly obvious that it was a viable career choice for me :lol: Just couldn't chase it though. So I majored in meteorology and have been happy since :) Good luck combining meteorology and visual art though! :tape: :o :p

fufuqifuqishahah
Aug 6th, 2006, 04:53 PM
art as in the liberal arts - languages, history, english all of those humanities subjects :)

oh hahah >_< nevermind then. well if u combine any liberal arts degree with a professional degree those could help. =)

I majored in music theory and minored in creative writing...but I ended up playing bass in a band that "made it" (I hate that term) in the underground scene and so touring and stuff gave me pretty good money that I was/am (I'd like to think) smart with...so with that I'm set for now and I do some instruction out of a local music store.

So I really haven't even had to use my music theory degree yet :p Although I would like to get a job sooner or later as a band teacher at a high school.

ooo music theory degree ;) i wish they had that here :P

King Aaron
Aug 6th, 2006, 05:08 PM
Oh...this thread sounds a bit discouraging. I'm very much more into Liberal Arts than Science degrees. Reading this thread gives me the impression that I'm heading to the nearest convenience store to look for a job. :o

Though I'm actually doing foundation in Science. :tape: :o

kiwifan
Aug 6th, 2006, 05:37 PM
Condoleezza

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981.

Well, at least someone in that club studied politics even if it doesn't really show. :tape:

And I keep wondering how she managed to finish her master degree in one year, while it took her six years to complete the PhD.

she probably had to write her "doctoral thesis", a friend of mine has been working on his since 1995 :lol: :tape:

Its the problem of finishing it, while often already employed and doing whatever they're aspiring to; hard to get motivated. :lol:

MinnyGophers
Aug 6th, 2006, 05:55 PM
Lol or you could just continue on with your art major, take some sciences pre-reqs, and apply to med school, that is if your grades are high...
:lol:

myxomatosis
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:02 PM
I can't wait to use my Russian Arts degree to work at a McDonalds in Moscow!
If I'm lucky, I'll get to work at the one by Red Square :banana:

Fantastic
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:02 PM
What's wrong with working at McDonald's? Servicing the drive-thru is fun - "Would you like fries with that?". And inventing new alternatives for mayonnaise is even funner! McJizz, anyone? LOL. ;)

myxomatosis
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:16 PM
What's wrong with working at McDonald's? Servicing the drive-thru is fun - "Would you like fries with that?". And inventing new alternatives for mayonnaise is even funner! McJizz, anyone? LOL. ;)
Gross! :lol: :tape:

V-MAC
Aug 6th, 2006, 06:55 PM
I've just finished my Arts course after three years, graduating soon :bounce: Luckily I have a post-graduate course lined up for the next year but after that we could be fighting it out for that place in MacDonalds :sad:

Princess Sarah.
Aug 7th, 2006, 08:12 AM
lol see u at mcdonalds, hey at least i have some range i could work at a macdonalds in an Arab country or in a Spanish-speaking country or in an english speaking country, so i've basically got all the continents covered!

Yeah Sam L i goto Sydney...i don't like it much though, probably coz it takes me an hour and a half to get there everyday!

Prizeidiot
Aug 7th, 2006, 09:11 AM
Condoleezza

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981.

Well, at least someone in that club studied politics even if it doesn't really show. :tape:

And I keep wondering how she managed to finish her master degree in one year, while it took her six years to complete the PhD.
And despite this, you should've seen how much of a frenzy/rage the Arts students at USYD got themselves into when she visited the con

Prizeidiot
Aug 7th, 2006, 09:12 AM
lol see u at mcdonalds, hey at least i have some range i could work at a macdonalds in an Arab country or in a Spanish-speaking country or in an english speaking country, so i've basically got all the continents covered!

Yeah Sam L i goto Sydney...i don't like it much though, probably coz it takes me an hour and a half to get there everyday!
And hour and a half?! :eek:

I thought you were closer than me!

Kunal
Aug 7th, 2006, 09:25 AM
hey!!!

whats with this negative outlook towards art degrees??

Im an art student and am doing pretty well!! this thinking that an art degree is equivalent to nothing is totally wrong.

what one needs to do is build up on that degree while u are in university....work in ad agencies, communications or whatever ur field of interest is.

that certainly helped me and now im working in a good organization

Princess Sarah.
Aug 7th, 2006, 09:32 AM
hmmm you may have the time to do that because u don't have to juggle working part-time and going to uni, congratulations, its not as easy for some because who the hell wants a history major?

and yeah hour and a half 20 minutes on the bus then about an hour on the train it can be less if i get the express then walk from redfern
why how long does it take u?

Prizeidiot
Aug 7th, 2006, 09:37 AM
hmmm you may have the time to do that because u don't have to juggle working part-time and going to uni, congratulations, its not as easy for some because who the hell wants a history major?

and yeah hour and a half 20 minutes on the bus then about an hour on the train it can be less if i get the express then walk from redfern
why how long does it take u?
Oh you're counting walking and busing time.

Well, I drive to the station, so all up, say, 1 hour 20? 15 to get to the station, 50 minutes on the train, 15 minutes to walk from Redfern to uni

Princess Sarah.
Aug 7th, 2006, 09:41 AM
yeah i would drive to the station but i don't want my car to be stolen it happened to my brother

fuck i'm screwed!

Prizeidiot
Aug 7th, 2006, 10:02 AM
Did I ever tell you of the miracle?

Last semester I left my car unlocked at Mt Druitt in the morning, came back late afternoon, and it was still there! In one piece!

Princess Sarah.
Aug 7th, 2006, 10:52 PM
OMG that is a miracle! LOL!

mc8114
Aug 8th, 2006, 12:06 AM
Being an arts student and discovering the pointlessness of my degree i was just wondering if my fate is a McDonalds restaurant near you?

Discuss
Ok let me share some of my experience with you :cool::

1.Your degree is not pointless, i find it quite refreshing actually.

2 I think we all feel sort of lost when we just start going to the uni, at least i did, although now i'm remembering that most of my classmates look so smart and focused while i was more like this: :eek: :scratch:

3. Even though i majored on a science career i also thought and feared that i could end up working on McDonalds.

Bottomline: If you really like what you're studying somewhere in between the sophomore and junior year you're gonna feel so fine and adapted that you're gonna look back and smile about this.

Princess Sarah.
Aug 8th, 2006, 12:09 AM
hmmm but i do feel so :eek: