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CJ07
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:00 AM
According to Hingis, Kournikova asked her to play doubles. I'm not sure what shes thinking about singles, but I'm guessing she'd try doubles first, and if that went well, she'd give it a try.

Can she be ready in 6 months?

As Hingis said, she has a lot of training to do. Mainly, she needs to gain weight, and figure out how to serve with her back problem. Looking at Kournikova's serve from summer 2002, to Spring 2003, it was clear her back was giving her serve problems. Granted it was no cannon in 2002, but it was a very very effective kick serve, when hit well put her in good position in points. I'm not sure why she didn't flatten it out as a first serve, but who knows.

If Kournikova can get a good fitness coach and a tennis coach, and maybe someone to help her mentally, I think she could really do well with Hingis in the Australian Summer.

As for Singles, its harder to tell. Kournikova finally looked liked, game-wise, she had gotten it together in the Summer of 2002. Mentally though, she still collapsed at the big stages, but she was *this* close to winning her first title, she took the #4 player in the world to 2 match points, she took more games off then #2 Venus Williams than anyone else in a tournament, and she was starting to win matches that she should. Then she got injured, played through it only winning one match, and the rest is history.

I think she legitamately stopped playing because of injury, she really was trying. She ended 2002 strongly (well injured) and was playing reasonably well even though very obviously injured in 2003 until it caught up with her. She and Seles pretty much went out the same way, on a wimper when they shouldn't have been playing.

Now it seems Kournikova has matured, and Sharapova is the focus of attention. I think if she took some time to train, got her serve together, and played doubles only for 6 months, then gave a crack at the European Tier III scene for the summer, who knows what would happen. Maybe by the US Open she could play Top 70 tennis.

Is that far off? Obviously, shes only been doing "okay" as Hingis put it in WTT. But thats without training, and with an average girl's weight and strength. I think the key for Kournikova is she needs to learn how to be efficient with her training. She was one of the HARDEST workers on tour, but it didn't show because she really was overdoing it. If she could get a coach who could get her to train efficiently, and she had her heart into it, I'm not sure why she couldn't do well in doubles. Singles again is harder to predict, as people would want to kill her. She, even now with a good partner, is arguably Top 100 Doubles material. I really think she could walk into a Tier 4 and win a couple of matches with a good partner. With training she and Hingis could do well.

Thoughts?

fufuqifuqishahah
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:02 AM
. Singles again is harder to predict, as people would want to kill her.

Thoughts?

:worship: :lol: hahahahah such great insight i love it!

I think she could totally rock in doubles. SIngles on the other hand, I'm not so sure. If she really put in the work and dedication and the fight in matches, i feel top 15, easy.

CJ07
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:05 AM
:worship: :lol: hahahahah such great insight i love it!

I think she could totally rock in doubles. SIngles on the other hand, I'm not so sure. If she really put in the work and dedication and the fight in matches, i feel top 15, easy.
Singles or doubles? Even with her 2003 serve, she was winning doubles matches against good players as the lead player (no offense to Chanda or Elena D.)

Hell now, she has done respectably in doubles. If she tried, and she played a reasonable schedule, she could be Top 10, Top 5 even in doubles if she dedicated herself to it.

As for singles, she still moves better, volleys better and has more variety than most of the top 10, and she (seems) that shes matured to the point where she'd think about what the heck she was doing.

The problem is she'd have to have a decent serve. With her back, I'm not sure if she can do that.

Thats really the question. Its a shame because she has/had a good motion, its just the follow through. I'm not sure if its painful or what, but if she followed through properly she'd have a good serve.

Marcus Jordan
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:08 AM
But if Martina plays doubles it makes it impossible for her to play her best in Singles. Its very physically draining to do both if you intend to reach the quarters/semis of Singles everytime. I can't see Martina wanting to sacrafice her Singles.

mboyle
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:15 AM
Martina won't play doubles. She has to work far too hard in singles. Venus, for example, can play singles and doubles because she finishes points in three or four strokes. Even against lesser players, Martina still needs 8 to 10 shots to finish points.

As for Anna, she can't come back to singles unless she can serve 100MPH first and 85MPH with kick second.

Cat's Pajamas
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:15 AM
if Kournikova spent the rest of the year than I see no reason why she couldn't make at least a successful comeback in doubles. Her netplay is still some of the best in modern tennis. I even think if she got strong and revamped her serve and groundies she could definetely make a miniature singles comeback and possibly win a tier 4 or maybe even a 3. But she would have to work her ass off and with the back injury idk if their is enough motivation. But I hope she tries, and I'll be supporting her 110% !!

Andy.
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:21 AM
I would like to see her come back it would add even more spice to the womens game

CJ07
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:35 AM
Martina won't play doubles. She has to work far too hard in singles. Venus, for example, can play singles and doubles because she finishes points in three or four strokes. Even against lesser players, Martina still needs 8 to 10 shots to finish points.

As for Anna, she can't come back to singles unless she can serve 100MPH first and 85MPH with kick second.
Thats a very good point. I honestly think it all just depends on whether Kournikova can get her 98 serve back.

Marcus Jordan
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:47 AM
Did Anna play some tier 4 tournaments ever? Its hard to believe she never won a singles title.

switz
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:01 AM
it would not be that hard. Kournikova is still probably reasonably fit, she just needs to spend less time on the treadmill, get back to doing weights and drink a lot of protein shakes.

I have no expectations that she will comeback but i'm sure she could get back in shape if she was really motivated to comeback.

hingisGOAT
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:07 AM
her and martina were such a killer doubles team - im confident that kournikova still has the talent, and can achieve whatever she wants IF she works hard enough! her game was so damn flashy :hearts:

if she gets in good shape and partners with hingis, the can win doubles Slams. period. only then should she worry about singles tennis... baby steps :angel:

WhatTheDeuce
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:46 AM
If she came back... :eek: :D I'm not even gonna say anything.

Kunal
Aug 2nd, 2006, 07:08 AM
this is good news

PLP
Aug 2nd, 2006, 07:18 AM
:)

I am not sure if Anna said anything about playing singles, the only news that I know of is that she wants to play doubles with Martina next year, either way though, it would be great!

ALPHA
Aug 2nd, 2006, 07:21 AM
According to Hingis, Kournikova asked her to play doubles.

[...]

I don't want to spoil the hopes here. But WHERE and WHEN exactly did Hingis make such a statement ? I did not read anything about this anywhere ? Do you have a link or something ? Which source ?




[...]

Can she be ready in 6 months?

As Hingis said, she has a lot of training to do. Mainly, she needs to gain weight, and figure out how to serve with her back problem.

[...]

If Kournikova can get a good fitness coach and a tennis coach, and maybe someone to help her mentally, I think she could really do well with Hingis in the Australian Summer.

[...]

Now it seems Kournikova has matured, and Sharapova is the focus of attention. I think if she took some time to train, got her serve together, and played doubles only for 6 months, then gave a crack at the European Tier III scene for the summer, who knows what would happen. Maybe by the US Open she could play Top 70 tennis.

Is that far off?

[...] If she could get a coach who could get her to train efficiently, and she had her heart into it, I'm not sure why she couldn't do well in doubles. Singles again is harder to predict, as people would want to kill her. She, even now with a good partner, is arguably Top 100 Doubles material. I really think she could walk into a Tier 4 and win a couple of matches with a good partner. With training she and Hingis could do well.

Thoughts?

*Sigh* No regular tennis played by AnnaK for almost 3 1/2 years now, AnnaK slim as a stick instead of sport-fit, no muscle definition, no endurance, no regular technical tennis practice, no tactical nor menthal training, and - to make things even worse - a chronic back injury, which limits the hours on-court for training and matches drastically.

From what I heard and read about the back injury, it needs complex and risky surgery to "outheal" completely. Without surgery, the problem is chronic and comes back to painful reality, as soon as she practices on-court for more than an hour every two days.

So first things she needs to do is to think about surgery and make a decision. Then she needs to be lucky that everything goes the right way and the surgery is successful. Then a phase for rehabilitation, which will take a couple of months. THEN the fitness needs to come first along with muscular build-up programm and THEN ... if she stays injury free this long ... AnnaK will start with a regular tennis coaching schedule watched and guided by not only a tennis coach but medical experts, which watch the progress AND the state of her back and the rest of her body permanently.

Apart from all that, she needs to build up a trustworthy and respected couple of peaople, who are willing to travel with her, if she really wants to come back on tour.


Soooo many steps to do before WE can speculate on her chances to make a sucessful comeback or not ...

... but it was nice to dream for a minute or two. :worship: Thanks for that. *sigh*

....

santhuruu
Aug 2nd, 2006, 07:26 AM
Ehmm it will be tough I think for Kournikova to be fit in 2007 at the Australian Open. I think it should be good to make a comeback in 2007 during the grass season.

*JR*
Aug 2nd, 2006, 11:40 AM
"If this, if that". :rolleyes:

And when Anna was coached by Harold Solomon in late '02, it didn't mean a fucking thing if she spent 8 hours on the court practicing or not. She was usually wasted from parties the night B4 (often "owed" to the sponsors the Winless Wonder had been pimped out to) and paid as much attention to interacting with the crowds watching her practice sessions as to what Harold was trying to teach her. (Of course he was a whore not to quit as a result).

Goldy, come up with some more propaganda, OK? :ras:

AK-DH Fan
Aug 2nd, 2006, 01:43 PM
This is really good news but obviously she is not the type of shape yet. As other have said, if she really wants it, she'll work her ass off and get much stronger for next year, but if she stays the way she is. I can't see her competing, even in doubles.

Good luck Anna K!!!!!!!

vogus
Aug 2nd, 2006, 02:12 PM
basically the last WTA tournament where Anya won any matches was the China Open in September 2002. So we're talking 4 and a half years away from the game if she were to try and play again starting in '07. In singles she is probably finished.

goldenlox
Aug 2nd, 2006, 02:34 PM
If Anna comes back, it's for doubles.
She and Martina can make a huge payday

Fantastic
Aug 2nd, 2006, 02:56 PM
If Anna Kournikova came back solely to play doubles, the game of doubles would end up being in the spotlight more than ever. How jealous would the ATP Tour be? Anna doesn't have to play with Martina Hingis to make an impact. Someone like Gisela Dulko, who is a good doubles player, could be the perfect partner for her.

*JR*
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:03 PM
...Anna doesn't have to play with Martina Hingis to make an impact. Someone like Gisela Dulko, who is a good doubles player, could be the perfect partner for her.
Preferrably Patty. :devil:

WhatTheDeuce
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:28 PM
She was usually wasted from parties the night B4 (often "owed" to the sponsors the Winless Wonder had been pimped out to) and paid as much attention to interacting with the crowds watching her practice sessions as to what Harold was trying to teach her.
:spit:

JR, you're priceless.

vogus
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:43 PM
what Anna needs to do is cut her hair short, dye it black, and start over from scratch with a new image.

WhatTheDeuce
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:44 PM
what Anna needs to do is cut her hair short, dye it black, and start over from scratch with a new image.
LMFAOOOOOOO :haha:

goldenlox
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:47 PM
:spit:

JR, you're priceless.You mean worthless :D

DemWilliamsGulls
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:54 PM
Ummmm and how long has this girl been preaching about coming back? She must be running out of money because people are paying attention to other pretty blonde haired girls WHO CAN ACTUALLY PLAY WELL on the wtatour. If you ask me "The Game" has left Kournikova...she really didnt play well when she was fit and on the tour....she would be the absolute doormat of the WTA and probably loose in str8 sets -4 6/ -2 6

goldenlox
Aug 2nd, 2006, 03:58 PM
She must be running out of money?

I doubt it, but keep dreaming

dizoo
Aug 2nd, 2006, 04:02 PM
it would be amazing!!! =]
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Dawn Marie
Aug 2nd, 2006, 04:23 PM
Can I get quote from Hingis? I don't see Hingis playing much doubles to make an impact on the WTA tour in 2007. Maybe 5 tournaments at best. Anna is another story. She has been away for 4 years. This is a long time in tennis. If she wants to come back she needs to do it in 2007. I'm talking about her singles here not the doubles.

Anna has to get her back in shape enough to handle the physical demands of the game. She didn't get surgery so she is still at the same place she was before. Nothing has changed.

Steffica Greles
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:35 PM
It's such a shame but I really feel Kournikova has been out for simply too long now. She didn't have Hingis' type of anticipation or innate positioning. Kournikova relied on her athleticism.

I think if Anna starts pushing herself to the level needed to reach the top fifty again, she'll get injured. And also, the girl has barely played at full throttle for four years now. Will she still have the skills? She had a great repertoire before, and some talent, but she wasn't as gifted as Seles or Hingis, who could dust off a racket after years and rediscover their timing. Anna was more mechanical and played from memory. It's doubtful she'd ever recapture her old skills because it's been a long time now.

And if she can't play in the top 50 once again, would she be bothered enough to attempt a comeback in singles?

Now, doubles is different. She was a world class doubles player and possessed the skills necessary to do well. She seemed to prefer sharing the burden with another player than when she was on her own and sturggling to close out matches.

I would love to see her play doubles again, and I think she can do it.

:)

*JR*
Aug 2nd, 2006, 05:45 PM
what Anna needs to do is cut her hair short, dye it black, and start over from scratch with a new image.
As she already looks like she's been on an "only water & orange juice B4 2PM" diet for awhile, Anna needs 2B "rescued" by her very own Hoffy, cut off all contact with her family & friends, and yeah go with dark hair (but frizzy instead of short). ;)

vogus
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:23 PM
As she already looks like she's been on an "only water & orange juice B4 2PM" diet for awhile, Anna needs 2B "rescued" by her very own Hoffy, cut off all contact with her family & friends, and yeah go with dark hair (but frizzy instead of short). ;)


ah yes, the bizarre, overlapping fates of Anna K and Patty S... :lol:

sfselesfan
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:25 PM
I would put her in the category of Dokic and Stevenson at this point. Her "comeback" would not be impressive. Hingis has more talent in her pinky toe than Anna ever will muster.

It would not be pretty.

SF

henmanhill
Aug 2nd, 2006, 06:27 PM
Martina won't play doubles. She has to work far too hard in singles. Venus, for example, can play singles and doubles because she finishes points in three or four strokes. Even against lesser players, Martina still needs 8 to 10 shots to finish points.

As for Anna, she can't come back to singles unless she can serve 100MPH first and 85MPH with kick second.

Exactly. Anna must be either very bored or in need of some more cash.

vogus
Aug 2nd, 2006, 07:19 PM
Venus, for example, can play singles and doubles because she finishes points in three or four strokes.




yep. Trouble is, Venus isn't WINNING nearly as many of those 3-or-4 stroke points as she did back in the day. At least she is still keeping the points short :lol:

Dann
Aug 2nd, 2006, 07:34 PM
Kournikova come back ?? why not :lick:

DemWilliamsGulls
Aug 2nd, 2006, 11:45 PM
yep. Trouble is, Venus isn't WINNING nearly as many of those 3-or-4 stroke points as she did back in the day. At least she is still keeping the points short :lol:

Anna would keep the points short too..with unforced errors and seeing balls fly past her face.........TENNIS BALLS....;) Can we talk about some REAL players coming back like Seles, Capriati, or Graff....instead of Anna Whonikova

goldenlox
Aug 3rd, 2006, 02:28 PM
If Anna comes back, even for doubles, she has to train hard.
It's much easier sitting court side at Heat games
Tennis is for masochists

Carmen Mairena
Aug 3rd, 2006, 02:38 PM
It's hilarious!!! :rolls:

Williams-forever
Aug 3rd, 2006, 02:43 PM
Until she got that back injury, she actually had a pretty good serve. So if she were completely healthy, and got back her curves, she would be able to work back her shots :cool: She's always had the touch and the 6th sense of ball-feeling, so if only she could get her body into it aswell...She would have an advantage against all these regular, mainstream players :)
But is she really ready to give up Hollywood and Iglesias?? :confused:

thalle
Aug 3rd, 2006, 03:01 PM
I would love to have Anna back. The tour would be much greater!

I wonder how much attention she would take away from Sharapova...

*JR*
Aug 3rd, 2006, 03:06 PM
I would love to have Anna back. The tour would be much greater!

I'd prefer the future Doctor Dyrberg anyday! ;)

goldenlox
Aug 3rd, 2006, 03:47 PM
Tennis is dead in the US. A return by Anna would get insane publicity.
Because there is nothing else about tennis anyone wants to talk about.
Around the Horn and PTI both discussed this, and nothing else about tennis

That's why she would have to be ready to hold up her half of the court

crazillo
Aug 3rd, 2006, 03:49 PM
It would be too much of a risk to come back I think. Anna knows that...

frenchie
Aug 3rd, 2006, 03:50 PM
Seriously, is it for real????

*JR*
Aug 3rd, 2006, 03:56 PM
Tennis is dead in the US. A return by Anna would get insane publicity.
Because there is nothing else about tennis anyone wants to talk about.
Around the Horn and PTI both discussed this, and nothing else about tennis

That's why she would have to be ready to hold up her half of the court
Then the game in the US deserves to go the way of soccer: heavy participation, but not a big spectator sport. Its funny, just about everyone involved with professional tennis would reject socialism for the economy in general. Yet when the great wisdom of capitalism gives it a lukewarm response, they'd rather turn to gimmicks (which is all the once very talented Anna would now be) than accept the verdict of the all-knowing free market.
:shrug:

vogus
Aug 3rd, 2006, 04:03 PM
professional tennis has the popularity and market value it does because of random individuals who come along and make the game interesting. Kournikova had her time as one such individual, but a symbolic return by her won't do anything substantial for the sport other than getting it a few extra ESPN video-bites. Her time is over. Tennis is waiting for new personalities to keep it going. That's the way it has always been. You can't predict when they are coming. That's why efforts to market the sport always fail - because the marketers don't have any way to increase the value of the product. That value ebbs and flows to its own rhythm.