I would rather be down 6-3 6-6 *6-0. What about you?
Jun 14th, 2006, 06:36 AM
6-0 in tiebreak :)
Jun 14th, 2006, 06:41 AM
in the 6-3, 6-6 (6-0) scenario, you'd be facing 6 match points. So you need to win 6 straight points to have a chance of coming back.
In the 6-0 5-0 scenario, you need to win 5 straight games, with let's assume 2 breaks.
So what odds are bigger: winning 6 straight points or 5 straight games? I'd say 5 straight games. For each game, you have to win at least 4 of 6 points, so in 5 games, you'd have to win at least 20 of 30 points (with a certain order ofcourse). That sounds better than winning 6 straight points. I'd probably chose 6-0 5-0.
So yeah, lol, you can involve all sort of mathematics and probability thinking. That's quite an interesting and complex situation.
Jun 14th, 2006, 06:42 AM
Definately 0-6 0-5. You can lose a point and still be in it.
Jun 14th, 2006, 06:43 AM
6-0 5-0 for sure... there is absolutely no margin for error at 6-0 down in a breaker.
Jun 14th, 2006, 06:43 AM
6-0 5-0 ... you have at least 4 chances to screw up vs. 1
Jun 14th, 2006, 06:53 AM
I've seen people in both scenarios come back to win, so it's really six of one, a half-dozen of the other.
Jun 14th, 2006, 06:58 AM
THe first one,, but obviously both really suck. The chances of comming back are pretty low, but u definately have more of a chance if u;re down 0-6 0-5.... IMO it's less pressure. Because if u;re down that much, u were never really in the match in the first place so u can just go for it regardledd of the outcome. If u happen to get that game, great, but it's not like u were close from the beginning. But if u are down a set and 6-0 in the Tiebreak, then u know u have a chance of getting back into it. By that time it;s even and u;ve probably had chances to win the set already but for me the pressure might be too emmence, but I;d fight to the very end. still think the first ones way better
Jun 14th, 2006, 06:59 AM
6-0 in Tiebreak
Jun 14th, 2006, 07:13 AM
depends on a lot of different factors. If you're down a set and 5-0 the majority of people are going to be pretty damned pissed off or just outplayed. If you're in a breaker you've obviously competed well for a long time but have allowed some points to slip.
I guess personally i'd have to say 5-0 in most cases because i have been able to come back from that before whereas i've never been down 6-0 in a breaker from memory but i think i'd fought hard to stay in a match and then gone down by that margin in a breaker i'd be mentally fried and would only get back if i was playing Likhovtseva perhaps.
Jun 14th, 2006, 07:15 AM
remember moniva vs. davenport at the 02 season ending championships and pierce vs likhotseva at the kremlin last year
Jun 14th, 2006, 07:17 AM
yeah the bagels.. :)
Jun 14th, 2006, 07:27 AM
0/6 0/5 easily.. facing 6 match points is a hell lot more pressure.
Jun 14th, 2006, 07:31 AM
6-0,5-0. Coz I have seen more people come back from 5-0 down in a set, than 6-0 in the tiebreaker( only remember 1 player coming back from that deficit)
Jun 14th, 2006, 07:52 AM
Is Mary the only player to ever do this? Come back from 0-6 in a FINAL set tiebreak?
Jun 14th, 2006, 09:01 AM
6-0 5-0 for sure..well in both cases i wud probably looz lol:p
Jun 14th, 2006, 09:05 AM
Good question :lol:
I had to think about it, but I'd go with being being down 0-6 0-5, I've still got a chance, and even if I do get a double bagel, at least I know I'm in esteemed company :devil:
Jun 14th, 2006, 09:11 AM
Jun 14th, 2006, 09:47 AM
Down 6-0 5-0 is without a doubt the better option IMO. Being down 0-6 in a breaker facing 6 matchpoints is just huge pressure no matter who you face. Being down 6-0 5-0 there is more of a chance your opponent might choke if you are starting to stage a comeback. Especially if you are on paper the better player and just have happened to play awfully, then suddely you are finding your game and manage one breakback + keeping your serve once. Then it´s already 5-2 and the opponent might very well start fearing you are on your way back.
Jun 14th, 2006, 09:59 AM
because a tennis match is NEVER over..
Farina Elia Fan
Jun 14th, 2006, 10:15 AM
Jun 14th, 2006, 10:22 AM
6-0 in the tiebreak.
I don't like losing 11-0 in games against anyone, I don't care who. It seems so humiliating. Besides, I don't see myself winning five straight games suddenly.
Jun 14th, 2006, 10:45 AM
I had to think about it :lol: But yeh I would say 6-0 5-0 down.
Jun 14th, 2006, 12:28 PM
Depends on the player. No player can *expect* to win 6 points in a row in any situation. Some players can turn themselves around after an 11-0 run and become a totally different player. Some cannot.
Also some players would be embarrassed to lose 6-0 6-0, and would prefer to go down 6-3 7-6. Others would say, a loss is a loss, and 6-0 5-0 gives me the better chance of winning.
Personally I'd take 6-0 5-0.
Jun 14th, 2006, 12:59 PM
If I was playing against Novotna I guess I'd take the 6-0, 5-0... :tape: More chances to win! :tape:
Jun 14th, 2006, 01:01 PM
It depends on who I'm playing and where.
If it's Momo at RG. I'll take 0-6 in the tiebreak, especially if it's deep in the draw. :haha:
Jun 14th, 2006, 01:11 PM
Ask Lisa Raymond !!
Jun 14th, 2006, 02:01 PM
*6-0 down for me. I'd probably lose in both situations. A score like 6-0 6-0 is really humiliating and could probably dampen my mood for a couple weeks while 6-3 7-6 definitely looks better. Plus, if u take *6-0 down, you expect your opponent to choke for about 3mins while in 6-0 5-0 case, your opponent has to choke for about 20mins.:lol:
Jun 14th, 2006, 02:12 PM
6-0 5-0. So when I win, I can say I came back from that. ;)
Jun 14th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Cool Question, I would say 0-6, 0-5, cos once you build up momentuem it really can turn around, but with the Tiebreak, you really kinda have to be a perfectionist and haha it's hard.
Jun 14th, 2006, 03:16 PM
Jun 14th, 2006, 03:51 PM
Roughly speaking, you have twice as big a chance of getting back on equal terms in the second set (not in the match, your opponent still is a set up) from 0-6 0-5 compared to 3-6 6-6 (0-6).
In practical play, it's also easier to get in the opponent's head if you slowly claw yourself back from 0-5 as opposed to winning a few points in the tiebreak where he won't have time to develop the same kind of nervousness or outright panic.
I would also choose option one because it's easier to control entire games than individual points where the opponent might get lucky.
However, if you gave me these scores and asked me which player was more likely to come back, I would go with the 3-6 6-6 (0-6) guy/girl. He has won 9 games and should be a much better player than the 0-11 dude/dudette.