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pigam
Jun 12th, 2006, 12:52 PM
I know, i know, it does't "mean" anything, but i so still enjoy these stats.
1 V.Williams USA 198 123

2 A.Ivanovic SCG 194 121

3 K.Sprem CRO 193 120

4 B.Mattek USA 192 120

4 J.Henin-Hardenne BEL 192 120

4 A.Groenefeld GER 192 120

7 S.Perry USA 191 119

8 J.Gajdosova SVK 188 117

8 F.Schiavone ITA 188 117

10 K.Clijsters BEL 187 116

10 I.Lisjak CRO 187 116

12 P.Parmentier FRA 186 116

13 S.Kuznetsova RUS 185 115

13 N.Vaidisova CZE 185 115

13 A.Molik AUS 185 115

16 Y.Fedossova FRA 184 115

16 T.Garbin ITA 184 115

16 A.Rezai FRA 184 115

16 T.Pironkova BUL 184 115

20 P.Schnyder SUI 183 114


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and now to compare, points won on first serve

1 S.Perry USA 3 56 of 77 = 73 %

2 J.Henin-Hardenne BEL 8 195 of 280 = 70 %

3 A.Rezai FRA 3 101 of 146 = 69 %

4 A.Perianu ROM 2 68 of 99 = 69 %

5 S.Arvidsson SWE 2 57 of 83 = 69 %

6 A.Ivanovic SCG 3 58 of 85 = 68 %

7 N.Vaidisova CZE 6 211 of 312 = 68 %

8 K.Clijsters BEL 6 134 of 200 = 67 %

9 J.Vakulenko UKR 3 89 of 133 = 67 %

10 M.Washington USA 1 46 of 69 = 67 %

11 A.Groenefeld GER 5 143 of 219 = 65 %

12 A.Morigami JPN 2 39 of 60 = 65 %

13 K.Srebotnik SLO 3 85 of 132 = 64 %

14 M.Sharapova RUS 4 127 of 198 = 64 %

15 P.Schnyder SUI 4 128 of 200 = 64 %

15 A.Brianti ITA 1 32 of 50 = 64 %

17 M.Hingis SUI 5 131 of 206 = 64 %

18 A.Sugiyama JPN 2 85 of 134 = 63 %

19 E.Bychkova RUS 1 26 of 41 = 63 %

20 V.Williams USA 5 158 of 250 = 63 %






let's say, the usual girls "on top". Venus: :yeah: Ivanovic :drool: K-Lina :wazzup: And a special :bowdown: to Justine who, with her height serves, serves at an amazing speed :angel:

Any names surprise you? i never saw Lisjak play :unsure: i always thought she was quite "fragile" but she seems to have quit a big serve

Vacant
Jun 12th, 2006, 12:54 PM
Mattek at four? LOL.

Keep those speeds up in Wimbly please Venus! ;)

Viktymise
Jun 12th, 2006, 12:54 PM
Vee lost that point when she hit that serve against Vaidisova :tape:

jas_aussie
Jun 12th, 2006, 12:55 PM
sam stosur is usely up there

pigam
Jun 12th, 2006, 12:57 PM
Vee lost that point when she hit that serve against Vaidisova :tape:
yeah, our commentators just noticced she had clocked the fastest serve and then she lsiot the point, but still, nice stat ;)

Justine must have hit hers in the finals i think, I didn't notice it, but she didn't go above 190 untill the semifinals

eck
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:01 PM
She hit 192 but lost the point :help:

rottweily
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Average serve speeds are much more interesting. They really should make the statistics gathering and presentation much more advanced.

This is very interesting :D:
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/extrastats/f_srv_pts_won_ws.html

rottweily
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:04 PM
yeah, our commentators just noticced she had clocked the fastest serve and then she lsiot the point, but still, nice stat ;)

Justine must have hit hers in the finals i think, I didn't notice it, but she didn't go above 190 untill the semifinals

Completely compliant with the "don't lose your energy too much in the first rounds strategy".

pigam
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:10 PM
Average serve speeds are much more interesting. They really should make the statistics gathering and presentation much more advanced.

This is very interesting :D:
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/extrastats/f_srv_pts_won_ws.html
you're right, I edited the first post

Brαm
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:13 PM
Although Venus hit the fastest serve at RG, she "only" won 63% on her first serve!
I guess placement is as important as speed...

rottweily
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:33 PM
Serve speeds of Justine:
Round Fastest Average1st Average2nd
1R 181 167 139
2R 178 164 141 (took simple averages)
3R 183 165 138
4R 183 168 138
QF 186 168 152
SF 185 172 143
FF 192 172 141 (took simple averages)

mila_mail
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:36 PM
venus, come on.

RR-87
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:36 PM
Pironkova seved 182 km/h :retard:

I always thought her serve sucked :tape:

Chunchun
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:39 PM
please post the DF stat as well - Lena, despite playing 3 matches only, is :eek::eek: :o

Chunchun
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:41 PM
btw why does Justine play 8 matches :eek:

Billabong
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:43 PM
Hingis is at #17:yeah:

eck
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:47 PM
btw why does Justine play 8 matches :eek:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Yea, good question, one of the web pages had her in 6 matches only. The webmasters.. :tape:

new-york
Jun 12th, 2006, 01:55 PM
Venus' serve. :rolleyes:

thrust
Jun 12th, 2006, 02:04 PM
Obviously a misprint as both Justine and Sveta played the same amount of matches.

Paneru
Jun 12th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Although Venus hit the fastest serve at RG, she "only" won 63% on her first serve!
I guess placement is as important as speed...

On clay anyway. :cool:

Paneru
Jun 12th, 2006, 02:40 PM
Venus' serve. :rolleyes:
:p

Can she catch a break?
Guess not! :angel:

Funny that when she wasn't popping these kind
of numbers all anyone could say is where is the power?

She pops it, now, where is the point?

If Roddick can throw bombs on clay and still lose
the points, it's no different for Venus.

Besides, throwing that on grass would and
most likely will pay more dividends for both.

At the very least, Venus shows she can still throw the power.
And more exciting, coming off the elbow injury, her power is
coming back around and her consistency will get there as well.

vwfan
Jun 12th, 2006, 03:14 PM
Vee lost that point when she hit that serve against Vaidisova :tape:she won't at Wimbledon. at best, she'll get a weak reply that will allow her to take flight with her Venus gave it to tennis "swing volley."

vwfan
Jun 12th, 2006, 03:20 PM
Although Venus hit the fastest serve at RG, she "only" won 63% on her first serve!
I guess placement is as important as speed...in general, this is true, but more so on clay!

On grass, speed is very important and that is why Roddick and other big servers have consistently gotten to the final at Wimbledon on the men's side and Venus gets there regularly as well on the women's side (5 out 6 times she's played ;) )

Justine won't have that percentage on grass; I can assure you! And Venus won't have that winning percentage on grass with serve speeds of 123 mph.

vwfan
Jun 12th, 2006, 03:33 PM
Although Venus hit the fastest serve at RG, she "only" won 63% on her first serve!
I guess placement is as important as speed...If you look at the list, it seems that both speed and placement are important.

6 out of 8 of the RG QF are in the top twenty for both serve speed and percentage won on serve, though the six are different.

five of the top 8 were in both categories: Venus, Henin, Kim, Groenfield, Nicole--indicating that both speed and placement are important, even for clay; three of the four semi-finalists were in top 20 of both categories.

Hingis is in the top 20 for percentage won, but not for speed and Kutznetsova is in for speed and not percentage won.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jun 12th, 2006, 04:35 PM
Good to see Venus can still hit those 120 bombs. She'll need them at Wimbledon ;)

rottweily
Jun 12th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Serve speeds of Justine:
Round Fastest Average1st Average2nd
1R 181 167 139
2R 178 164 141
3R 183 165 138
4R 183 168 138
QF 186 168 152
SF 185 172 143
FF 192 172 141

Serve speeds of Venus:
Round Fastest Average1st Average2nd
1R 186 167 151
2R 182 165 140
3R 189 164 141
4R 188 163 131
QF 198 171 146

Average of all matches:
Justine: 184 168 142
Venus: 189 166 142

So on average Justine has a faster serve than Venus (in this tourney)!

Viktymise
Jun 12th, 2006, 04:44 PM
she won't at Wimbledon. at best, she'll get a weak reply that will allow her to take flight with her Venus gave it to tennis "swing volley."
I was thinking the same, the chances vee losing to someone like Vaidisova on grass aswell i think are slim if she serves big

Mightymirza
Jun 12th, 2006, 06:31 PM
Well both justine and Venus lack variation on serve a lot I think..Justine and Venushas got really predictable 2nd serves..I was actually surprised to see Juju varied it a bit in final on ad side throwing in out wide kickers at times..On ad side her 1st serves are mostly body or down T so is true for venus major part of her 1st serves go to to forehand side...That was one of major reason of loss to pironkova..Really predictable serve..Lil variation..Justine can hit T at times from deuce side but she misses them quite a few times before making them..I think its hard to serve hard or place em well but must be harder to do both simultaneously...Roddick or Ljubo can serve any side of court hard consistently...Davenport should hav been able to beef up her serve actually..With her placement and added speed she would have become next to impossible to break...Anyways lets hope Justine and Vee both start having more variation in their serves...