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Rocketta
Apr 15th, 2006, 02:26 PM
sorry if this has been posted before


Cruise says Holmes is a Scientologist

Fri Apr 14, 8:11 AM ET


Actor Tom Cruise says his Catholic-born fiancee, actress Katie Holmes, has joined him as a follower of the Church of Scientology but insists that doesn't mean she can't make noise when she gives birth to their child.

Cruise, 43, addressed questions about the religious faith of his pregnant bride-to-be, the child they are expecting and Scientology's practice of "silent birth" in an ABC News television interview set for broadcast on Friday.

Excerpts from the interview, conducted by Diane Sawyer, were released by the Walt Disney Co.-owned network as part of a publicity blitz linking the impending birth of Cruise's first biological child with his upcoming film, "Mission: Impossible: III."

Cruise suggested Scientology's doctrine of "silent birth," emphasizing a calm, quiet atmosphere in the delivery room, free from screaming and shouts of "push!," was misunderstood and exaggerated by the media.

"It's basically just respecting the mother, you know, and helping to be quiet. (But) not the mother. The mother makes as much noise ... you know, she's going through it. She does what she's gotta do, OK?"

Contrary to perceptions that Scientology frowns on giving painkillers to women in labor, Cruise added: "We're there, you know, with doctors. ... Whatever the woman wants. ... If she needs an epidural, she's gonna get her epidural."

He denied a tabloid report that he had bought an adult pacifier to muffle the moans of his 27-year-old fiancee.

Asked whether their baby would be given a Catholic baptism, Cruise said, "No," then added: "I mean you can be Catholic and be a Scientologist. You can be Jewish and be a Scientologist. But we're just Scientologists."

"Katie, too?" Sawyer asked.

"Katie, too," he replied.

It was the first public acknowledgment from the couple that Holmes has joined Cruise, one of Scientology's most prominent adherents, in embracing a faith founded by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

Cruise denied media accounts of tension with Holmes' parents, who are devout Catholics, over her association with Scientology. "They're OK with her being a Scientologist since they're Catholic?" Sawyer asked, to which Cruise answered, "Absolutely, yes."

The couple have yet to set a wedding date, but Cruise said in a separate interview with CQ magazine that they were looking to tie the knot sometime in late summer and early fall.

The baby will be the first for Holmes, who starred in the TV show "Dawson's Creek." Cruise has two older children, 13-year-old daughter Isabella and 11-year-old son Connor, whom he adopted with actress Nicole Kidman before their marriage ended in divorce in 2001.

Kunal
Apr 15th, 2006, 02:31 PM
and drugged & sedated

jenny161185
Apr 15th, 2006, 02:36 PM
id actually never seen the clip of him on Oprah until last night and OMGod was I shocked he really did come across as mentally unstable! And as my friend pointed out what about Nicole Kidman whom he was married to for 10 years and their two children - i mean talk about lack of respect :mad:

Veritas
Apr 15th, 2006, 02:38 PM
How can anyone believe the crap that Scientologists put onto the table? :confused:

Their religion is one of the most bizarre. And along with Mormons, they freak me out :unsure:

I'm just amazed people are willing to put up with 'teachings' such as having mothers remain completely silent during birth to having had some sort of relationship with aliens from way outta space :tape:

Though I admit I don't have evidence to discredit Scientology, it's still way too insane to take seriously.

Btw, I don't feel much sympathy for Katie. She's an adult and has made her choice. What she decides to do with it is up to her.

controlfreak
Apr 15th, 2006, 03:14 PM
I can't wait for all those scientologists in their laboratoratories to inventorate something betterer than the saxomophone.

Hulet
Apr 15th, 2006, 03:21 PM
What I don't understand is why people are so obsessed with what other people worship. As long as they don't hurt you, why the f should it matter that their religion is weird or psychopath or anything? Another thing that totally confounds me is why everyone is so willing to believe every single gossip that is bandid(?) around about Cruise and his girlfriend. The other morning, I was listening to this DJ on the radio and he said he wanted to announce this "news" that I don't remember now about the couple. His colleague immediately interjected saying that he checked the story and it isn't true. The first DJ replied that he doesn't care about the authenticity of the story and went on telling the "news". I turned off my radio.

Kart
Apr 15th, 2006, 03:27 PM
I find Katie being a scientologist far more easy to stomach than any second of her character on Dawson's Creek.

^bibi^
Apr 15th, 2006, 03:47 PM
can't they just have their stupid baby and leave us alone ?

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 15th, 2006, 03:50 PM
What is it with Scientologist going after the Catholics and trying to convert them?
Nicole at least had the mental capacity to understand that Scientology wasn't for her or her children.
They can have Katie. She doesn't bring the best light to Catholicism as it is.
It's a fair trade.

Beat
Apr 15th, 2006, 04:05 PM
I find Katie being a scientologist far more easy to stomach than any second of her character on Dawson's Creek.
:lol:

Infiniti2001
Apr 15th, 2006, 05:24 PM
can't they just have their stupid baby and leave us alone ?

You know!! :rolleyes: I don't understand why the media is obsessed with this psycho and his ditzy girlfriend :fiery:

Veritas
Apr 15th, 2006, 05:30 PM
You know!! :rolleyes: I don't understand why the media is obsessed with this psycho and his ditzy girlfriend :fiery:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Come on, it's the media! They're the next most opportunistic liars, right after politicians and celebrities.

RunDown
Apr 15th, 2006, 09:21 PM
Did anyone see Tom Cruise on Dateline last night, and how he avoided/laughed off nearly all the questions regarding Scientology? I'd be suspicious of any religion that keeps their beliefs secret.

Rtael
Apr 15th, 2006, 09:36 PM
I feel bad for the baby...

TF Chipmunk
Apr 15th, 2006, 09:57 PM
I thought they were broken up :help:

drake3781
Apr 15th, 2006, 10:35 PM
can't they just have their stupid baby and leave us alone ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Rachel_
Apr 15th, 2006, 11:29 PM
I thought they were broken up :help:

Me 2

No1 tells us anything :p

Kirt12255
Apr 16th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Tom who?? Katie Who?? :scratch:

drake3781
Apr 16th, 2006, 01:32 AM
Did anyone see Tom Cruise on Dateline last night, and how he avoided/laughed off nearly all the questions regarding Scientology? I'd be suspicious of any religion that keeps their beliefs secret.

Yes. I'm suspicious of people who avoid/laugh off questions about anything.

Perfection
Apr 16th, 2006, 01:38 AM
According to Scientology, if the baby is born disfigured or with an obvious disorder to the eye, they must eat the baby within an hour of birth. :o

Kirt12255
Apr 16th, 2006, 01:44 AM
According to Scientology, if the baby is born disfigured or with an obvious disorder to the eye, they must eat the baby within an hour of birth. :o


:lol: :lol: :lol: nothing like good old Holme cooking huh Perfection ;)

Rtael
Apr 16th, 2006, 02:18 AM
Oh my that deserves a good rep...

wipeout
Apr 16th, 2006, 03:03 AM
http://www.tomcruiseisnuts.com/

wipeout
Apr 16th, 2006, 03:04 AM
More seriously...

http://www.xenu.net/index.html

Martian KC
Apr 16th, 2006, 03:05 AM
Only under contract.:wavey:

drake3781
Apr 16th, 2006, 03:31 AM
More seriously...

http://www.xenu.net/index.html

I'm particularly fascinated with the methods used to get people into the religion/organization. Here is a page describing how Scientology gets reasonable people to believe its doctrines, and basically what those doctrines are (75 million years ago, the evil Space Ruler Xenu wiped out this sector of the galaxy and all of us with it, and then implanted us all with the spirits of dead space aliens. Now Scientologists have to exorcise those spirits through various therapies.)

http://www.xenu.net/archive/personal_story/funkydonny.html

Perfection
Apr 16th, 2006, 03:43 AM
It's strange to think that people like Kirstie Alley, John Travolta, Juliette Lewis, Anne Heche believe this stuff.. oh wait, Anne Heche just has an alter ego alien known as Celestia, nevermind! :lol: But really, how strange!!

drake3781
Apr 16th, 2006, 03:47 AM
It's strange to think that people like Kirstie Alley, John Travolta, Juliette Lewis, Anne Heche believe this stuff.. oh wait, Anne Heche just has an alter ego alien known as Celestia, nevermind! :lol: But really, how strange!!


So who are the well-known Scientologists?

Tom Cruise
Katie Holmes
Kristie Alley
John Travolta
(his wife, forget her name)
Juliette Lewis
Anne Heche
who else?

Perfection
Apr 16th, 2006, 03:56 AM
Anne Heche isn't, she just has an alter ego that is God's sibling and can communicate with the aliens. :)

More include:
Nancy Cartwright (voice of Bart Simpson)
Jenna Elfman
Isaac Hayes
Chaka Khan
Lisa Marie Presley
Priscilla Presley
Kelly Preston
Leah Remini
Patrick Swayze

Past members, now renounced:
Gloria Gaynor
Charles Manson
Ricky Martin
Van Morrison
Oliver Stone
Sharon Stone (figures? :rolleyes: )

Brooklyn90
Apr 16th, 2006, 03:57 AM
there goes another hollywood star that has been brain washed by that cult

Perfection
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:00 AM
there goes another hollywood star that has been brain washed by that cult

What, you don't believe in Xenu the Evil Space Warrior?! :hysteric:

:lol:

drake3781
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:03 AM
Tom Cruise speaking at Scientology event http://www.clambake.org/archive/celebrities/200409-Tom_Cruise.jpg

starr
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:08 AM
I'm particularly fascinated with the methods used to get people into the religion/organization. Here is a page describing how Scientology gets reasonable people to believe its doctrines, and basically what those doctrines are (75 million years ago, the evil Space Ruler Xenu wiped out this sector of the galaxy and all of us with it, and then implanted us all with the spirits of dead space aliens. Now Scientologists have to exorcise those spirits through various therapies.)

http://www.xenu.net/archive/personal_story/funkydonny.html

You know, while I think that's pretty ridiculous, it's no more ridiculous than the beliefs of a lot of religon including christianity, hinduism, etc.

Perfection
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:11 AM
You know, while I think that's pretty ridiculous, it's no more ridiculous than the beliefs of a lot of religon including christianity, hinduism, etc.

It's just a bit more modern with the space ships and all..

Brooklyn90
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:22 AM
What, you don't believe in Xenu the Evil Space Warrior?! :hysteric:

:lol:
:lol: can't say i do :)

shnit.
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:33 AM
Ok, I think I'm the only one who isn't jumping on the Cruise is a psycho bandwagon. :o


I just, don't care about it that much. And I don't really mind the whole deal with his religion. Might be weird, but there's a whole lot more weirder things than this. :tennis:

Kirt12255
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:45 AM
According to Scientology, if the baby is born disfigured or with an obvious disorder to the eye, they must eat the baby within an hour of birth. :o

When they said they were eating baby spinach it was really one of Gwynny Paltrow's kids? :eek: If it happens you can bet Kirsty Alley will be there to help season the lil hair-ball. I hear babies are low-carbs :confused:

Solitaire
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:52 AM
How can anyone believe the crap that Scientologists put onto the table? :confused:

Their religion is one of the most bizarre. And along with Mormons, they freak me out :unsure:

I'm just amazed people are willing to put up with 'teachings' such as having mothers remain completely silent during birth to having had some sort of relationship with aliens from way outta space :tape:

Though I admit I don't have evidence to discredit Scientology, it's still way too insane to take seriously.

Btw, I don't feel much sympathy for Katie. She's an adult and has made her choice. What she decides to do with it is up to her.


It's just as odd as Jesus coming back from the dead. :eek: Or talking to beings who have wings. Scientology is no different from any other religion in it's craziness.

I don't think u can date/marry Tom unless u give into Scientology.

Perfection
Apr 16th, 2006, 04:58 AM
:haha: Kirt..

I actually believe with the part of not taking modern medicine because it really is very unhealthy to have any types of chemicals in your body.

But then on the other hand, Scientologists believe in smoking because the creator, L Ron Hubbard did. Smoking is nearly as bad or worse than chemical drugs, dipshits. :rolleyes:

Rocketta
Apr 16th, 2006, 05:12 AM
It's just as odd as Jesus coming back from the dead. :eek: Or talking to beings who have wings. Scientology is no different from any other religion in it's craziness.

I don't think u can date/marry Tom unless u give into Scientology.

don't forget parting the red sea....Noah being able to build an ark that can hold two of every animal plus survive a flood that kills everyone. :D

drake3781
Apr 16th, 2006, 05:20 AM
Leah Rimini
http://www.leahremini.com/portrait.jpg

Jenna Elfman
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_sm_elfman1.gif

John Travolta
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_sm_travolta1.gif

Catherine Bell
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_sm_bell3.gif

Kirstie Alley
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_sm_alley3.gif

Kelly Preston
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_sm_preston3.gif

Juliette Lewis
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_lg_lewis_j1.gif

Isaac Hayes
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_sm_hayes2.gif

Danny Masterson
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_sm_masterson_d1.gif

Priscilla Presley
http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/18/55/12m.jpg

Sofia Milos (from CSI)
http://sofiamilos.com/photos/headshot_final2.jpg

Laura Prepon
http://allstarz.hollywood.com/~lauraprepon/cemm1.jpg

Paul Haggis, who wrote "Million Dollar Baby" and wrote and directed this year's Oscar winner "Crash".

Chaka Khan

Bernadette Peters

Christopher Masterson, who played Francis in Malcolm in the Middle.

possibly......... Jerry Seinfeld (has taken classes and spoke about Scientology publiclly), Jeffrey Tambor who was on Arrested Development, Al DiMeola, Soleil Moon Frye

Celebrity Centre located on 5930 Franklin in Hollywood
http://www.celebritycentre.org/resources/img/std/about/about_cc.jpg

The Lobby
http://www.celebritycentre.org/resources/img/std/about/about_cc02.jpg

The Celebrity Centre publishes a magazine called "Celebrity" in which appear the Scientology celebrites with articles about them.

=========
Oh No! They got Danny Masterson!!

And, shockingly for me, the site lists Beck Hansen :eek: :eek: . He is listed as a "second generation Scientologist" so at least he got it from his family, not joined on his own out of the blue. And he is married, which I didn't know, and his wife is "in" too, actress Marrissa Ribisi.

shnit.
Apr 16th, 2006, 06:20 AM
It's just as odd as Jesus coming back from the dead. :eek: Or talking to beings who have wings. Scientology is no different from any other religion in it's craziness.
Exactly.

bw2082
Apr 16th, 2006, 06:59 AM
well good for her. who really gives a shit? :shrug: :lol:

RunDown
Apr 16th, 2006, 09:04 PM
Juliette Lewis
http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_lg_lewis_j1.gif



:spit:

Perfection
Apr 16th, 2006, 09:21 PM
:haha:

drake3781
Apr 17th, 2006, 06:41 AM
The 43-year old Cruise says that Katie loves cupcakes.
============

As for what attracted him to Holmes in the first place, Cruise says: "Her smile drives me crazy in a good way. She has this thing that she does with her tongue when she smiles. When she's really laughing when her tongue sticks out and it's the cutest thing."

But "when we're riding motorcycles," he says, "I tell her look, please don't stick your tongue out. If we hit a bump or anything I get a little bit nervous."

He's also charmed by the fact that "she loves cupcakes ... she loves to laugh," he says.

So, why the delay in walking down the aisle? "We were just talking about it last night," says Cruise. "She has this beautiful belly, this glowing woman. We were walking up to bed, and I just, I can't wait till we get married. I can't wait till I can call and say, 'Hey, you know, put my wife on the phone.' "

(People magazine online)

decemberlove
Apr 17th, 2006, 06:58 AM
Will & Jada's son goes to the Scientology Ability School in Englewood, NJ. I remember an interview with Will in Premiere or Entertainment Weekly where he was praising Scientology's teaching philosophy.

Ryan
Apr 17th, 2006, 02:06 PM
:yawn: Scientology is fuckin WACK! I saw an itnerview with a Sci. lady explaining silent birth, etc. Then she proceeded to blame the media for - of all things - making Tom Cruise LOOK BAD!. :lol: They are fucking weird.

pla
Apr 17th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Bozhe, slez si priberi veresiite :help:

Mateo Mathieu
Apr 17th, 2006, 03:32 PM
:spit:
I know! :haha:

Wannabeknowitall
Apr 17th, 2006, 04:40 PM
Damn. They got Chaka Khan.
She'll come back to the light like Gloria Gaynor.
It just will take a while.

lizchris
Apr 17th, 2006, 06:10 PM
He says she is pregnant too but that doesn't mean I believe him on either front.