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Club_Fed
Mar 4th, 2006, 04:57 PM
and he just wiped the floor with Federer's ass. So put a sock in it. Top players are top players, it doesnt have anything to do with the "depth of the game" You could be like a Hingis and miss a few years or like Nadal who has missed months. Top players perform.

tennisrox
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:00 PM
:yeah:

Mightymirza
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:25 PM
yeah did u post it at MTF too??I think you should..

Mightymirza
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:25 PM
WTA rocks,....

selesbooz
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:31 PM
I don't consider that score line moping the floor with anyone, maybe if he got beat 6-2 6-2 then maybe.

Also Nadal was not out for 3 years only a few months..

Club_Fed
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:34 PM
I don't consider that score line moping the floor with anyone, maybe if he got beat 6-2 6-2 then maybe.

Also Nadal was not out for 3 years only a few months..


He hasnt played competitvely since before last October for crissakes!!!!! Thats more than a few months!

selesbooz
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:36 PM
He hasnt played competitvely since before last October for crissakes!!!!! Thats more than a few months!


So 5 months compared to 3 years, My Bad it has been forever :lol:

harloo
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:38 PM
So 5 months compared to 3 years, My Bad it has been forever :lol:

:tape: :lol:

hablo
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:40 PM
So 5 months compared to 3 years, My Bad it has been forever :lol:
:haha:

Carmen Mairena
Mar 4th, 2006, 05:42 PM
Roger :retard: :tape:

But Rafael's situation isn't the same as Martina's in any way... :retard:

Jenny.C.Fan
Mar 4th, 2006, 07:41 PM
Rafa :)

Reuchlin
Mar 4th, 2006, 07:58 PM
If Roger went away for 3 years and continued to remain in the game in a sim. capacity to what Hingis did-- I would not be surprised if her came out beating players in the 10+ rankings range. Talent never goes away-- and talents helps these two players win 90% of their matches.

njnetswill
Mar 4th, 2006, 08:00 PM
Erm....Nadal was still the number 2 player in the world? Not unranked. ;)

Corswandt
Mar 4th, 2006, 08:39 PM
and he [Nadal] just wiped the floor with Federer's ass.

Yeah, he played very well. Only when playing near his almost impossible best did Fed have a clear edge over him. Actually, I wasn't that surprised. I don't think the workaday Fed performance, mixing 60% brilliance with 40% inconsistency (like he did with Youzhny the day before) is enough to deal with an in-form Nadal.

Hingis is a different matter. She's been away for much longer, and even though her immense talent and court sense are still there, the game meanwhile has changed; there already was power in her day, but in 2006 power is much more widespread. Players ranked 10-50 for the most have big guns; players ranked in the top 10 all have big guns and a measure of consistency. Right now, it isn't the artillery that makes the difference (in general and vs Hingis), since most players have it; it's consistency. Hingis has the consistency, but not the artillery needed to force a decision, so all she can do when playing top opponents is to dig in and wait for the best (i.e. for her opponent to self-destruct). If her opponent is having a good day in terms of consistency, she's pretty much done for.

Crazy Canuck
Mar 4th, 2006, 08:40 PM
He hasnt played competitvely since before last October for crissakes!!!!! Thats more than a few months!
Um, last played two weeks ago. WTF?

Ryan
Mar 4th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Um, last played two weeks ago. WTF?


Yeah, really. Anyway, since when is 4 months in ATP-time equivalent to 4 years WTA-time?

PLP
Mar 4th, 2006, 08:58 PM
It seems though that the WTA has more depth than ever, esp. near the top 30ish players. Martina is Martina. She belongs in that group. She is just not a good example to use...I think it is another excuse for male players to try and prove that there tour is better/more competitive so they deserve more money which I would assume/hope that the vast majority of people on this board would disagree with.

That being said Martina is nowhere near 100% yet...when she is she will be in the top 10 again no doubt and congrats to Nadal for a great win! P

James
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:02 PM
This thread is MTF material. Nadal does not play on the WTA tour as I remember.

Corswandt
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:02 PM
That being said Martina is nowhere near 100% yet...when she is she will be in the top 10 again no doubt

I don't think Hingis will ever play much better than she is doing now. Top 10, who knows, considering how injuries and slumps can change the game in a couple of months. I doubt it, though.

Corswandt
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:03 PM
This thread is MTF material. Nadal does not play on the WTA tour as I remember.

We're talking mostly Hingis now. I don't think there's any need to lock the thread.

skanky~skanketta
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:03 PM
rafa won?wooooooooooot!

James
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:04 PM
We're talking mostly Hingis now. I don't think there's any need to lock the thread.

I think otherwise and I'm still not clear what the purpose of this thread is. Federer bashing, Nadal worshipping, a debate on what makes a top player? It's an odd mix in my opinion.

PLP
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:12 PM
I don't think Hingis will ever play much better than she is doing now. Top 10, who knows, considering how injuries and slumps can change the game in a couple of months. I doubt it, though.

Just wondering how you could actually believe this? Martina is already playing much better than 6 weeks ago. She has things to work on in her game and she is in the midst of making those changes. I wouldn't be surprised if she regained #1 at some point within the next few years...I think that top ten is a given, P

RJWCapriati
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:25 PM
WTA rocks,....


:yeah:

Corswandt
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:27 PM
I think otherwise and I'm still not clear what the purpose of this thread is. Federer bashing, Nadal worshipping, a debate on what makes a top player? It's an odd mix in my opinion.

Who cares, apart from you? 99% of the threads on GM have no clear "purpose", and wander off in every direction conceivable.

K-Dog
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:31 PM
and he just wiped the floor with Federer's ass. So put a sock in it. Top players are top players, it doesnt have anything to do with the "depth of the game" You could be like a Hingis and miss a few years or like Nadal who has missed months. Top players perform.

How did Rafael wipe the floor with Federer's ass? Nadal played two cluch games at 4-4 in the second and third set to win it. Did you actually watch the match. Roger was wiping Rafa's ass for a set and 4-3. Then Rog got sloppy and lost to an overjuiced pusher at the cluch moments. OH WELL! Roger will still win more majors than Rafael and will actually win one outside of Roland Garros.

James
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:32 PM
Who cares, apart from you? 99% of the threads on GM have no clear "purpose", and wander off in every direction conceivable.

So what if I would be the only one to care (probably not, but for the sake of the argument I will use that as a hypothesis)? I have a right to defend my point of view. And of course threads do not always have a clear purpose on here with all the hidden agendas here in GM. But the fact it is something common, does not make it a good thing necessarily.

Corswandt
Mar 4th, 2006, 09:40 PM
And of course threads do not always have a clear purpose on here with all the hidden agendas here in GM. But the fact it is something common, does not make it a good thing necessarily.

I'm with you on that one. The threads with a more straightforward purpose (say, discussing a particular match) are for the most filled with useless posts consisting merely of the name of one of the players+the appropriate smilie. The more interesting threads tend to be hijacked and become a shit-slinging festival between fans and haters of a particular player.

BTW, I'll admit that this thread began as MTF material, and will eventually relapse into it again.

Sam L
Mar 4th, 2006, 11:31 PM
Nadal's probably hasn't been injured but hiding away to build on his claycourt game and coming out in time for it. He's a specialist. And when the claycourt season is not on or near, he's "injured".

VivalaSeles
Mar 4th, 2006, 11:48 PM
Nadal's probably hasn't been injured but hiding away to build on his claycourt game and coming out in time for it. He's a specialist. And when the claycourt season is not on or near, he's "injured".

I bet other players would love to be specialists as good as Nadal, so that they could beat Federer - something no one had done in 2006.