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twight6
Jan 13th, 2006, 01:36 PM
Here are some possible 1st round upsets. Any more?

Linetskaya d. [25] Kirilenko (not necessisarily an upset, but a losing seed!)
Raymond d. [18] Likhovtseva (Lisa is always a threat ;) )
Li d. [13] S.Williams (Serena hasn’t played in a while, Na Li is always tough… (I may be dreaming, lol))
Schruff d. [9] Dementieva (Julia can be really tough…)
Craybas d. [23] Jankovic (Jill has always proven to be a good player, Jelena is kinda struggling lately…)
Bychkova d. [29] Koukalova (Klara is only the 29 seed, Bychkova beat Svetlana…)
Hingis d. [30] Zvonareva (it’s Martina Hingis!)
Perry d. [21] Ivanovic (although Ana is tough, she has been struggling a little… Shenay has the potential to pull of this upset if she plays well!)
Frazier d. [27] Bartoli (Amy can always pull of a shocker ;))

Meesh
Jan 13th, 2006, 01:40 PM
I can see these two happening...
Frazier d. [27] Bartoli
Craybas d. [23] Jankovic

I think serena will get past N.Li

AjdeNate!
Jan 13th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Bye d. Sprem

.....errrr, Bondarenko d. Sprem. Only an upset in terms of ranking, of course.

twight6
Jan 13th, 2006, 01:41 PM
I can see these two happening...
Frazier d. [27] Bartoli
Craybas d. [23] Jankovic

I think serena will get past N.Li

me too, but i think Na will give her a little struggle. However, serena will find away to get past even if she isn't playing her best, she always does ;)

jonny84
Jan 13th, 2006, 01:43 PM
I don't think Perry will get past Ivanovic. Ivanovic has some great form making the Sydney SF and beat Mauresmo (last years YEC champion).

I would add Dechy to the list, she faces Zi Yan. Dechy is apparently injured and the Chinese have been hard at it practicing and have pressure on them.

Wojtek
Jan 13th, 2006, 01:49 PM
NA Li will beat Serena

*Jool*
Jan 13th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Li :o
Hingis :woohoo:
Raymond definitely
Hopefully Eleni

also possible:
Schruff
Ferguson
Yan
Frazier

Taz Warrior
Jan 13th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Schruff def Dementieva
Craybas def Jankovic
Yan def Dechy

Greattennis
Jan 13th, 2006, 02:50 PM
i think ivanovic kicks perrys ass

CooCooCachoo
Jan 13th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Yan over Dechy
Raymon over Likhovtseva

Dexter
Jan 13th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Raymond def. Lichowcewa
Li def. Williams
Schruff def. Dementiewa (very little chance though)
Craybas def. Janković (but I hope it won't happen :unsure: )
Byczkowa def. Koukalova (if Vania can :shrug: )
Daniilidou def. Schnyder :hehehe:
Fedak def. Myskina (you can't be sure of Nastya, but I hope she won't lose :unsure: )
Hingis def. Zwonariewa
Yan def. Dechy
Pous Tio def. Groenefeld (ALG plays like crap this year, but Laura is a "only" clay-specialist :shrug: )
Frazier def. Bartoli

Sweep
Jan 13th, 2006, 03:38 PM
Taxis for Jankovic, Bartoli, and Hantuchova.

Ellery
Jan 13th, 2006, 03:52 PM
Li d. Williams
Hingis d. Zvonareva
Craybas d. Jankovic
Yan d. Dechy
Raymond d. Likhovtseva

SloKid
Jan 13th, 2006, 04:03 PM
Here are some possible 1st round upsets. Any more?
Perry d. [21] Ivanovic (although Ana is tough, she has been struggling a little… Shenay has the potential to pull of this upset if she plays well!)
You're kidding right? Ana lost only twice this year to Sveta and she beat Momo in Sydney...I don't really see the struggling part you're talking about...:shrug:

alfajeffster
Jan 13th, 2006, 04:41 PM
If Hingis doesn't win her first round, I'll be upset...

drake3781
Jan 13th, 2006, 04:53 PM
We need to also consider Peng because even though she drew a Qualifier in the 1st Round, it's not gonna be a cakewalk.

- she is inconsistent,
- she is under a lot of pressure on her results,
- she had tough three-set win over Krajicek at Hopman Cup
- she had a 2-6, 4-6 1st Round loss to Ivanovic in Sydney
- she hasn't played much yet in 2006
- these Qualifers are getting a lot of playing time in as preparation. I think the Qualifiers that get through are gonna be tough.

All that being said, of course I wish her all the best :wavey: :kiss:

WhatTheDeuce
Jan 13th, 2006, 04:57 PM
I think Dokic has a decent shot against Razzano :o

Simplicity
Jan 13th, 2006, 04:58 PM
Go Peng!!

M&M
Jan 13th, 2006, 05:23 PM
1st round upsets are always possible, no matter who plays ;)

so i am the only one and say marta will upset justine :p ;) :tape:

©@®eLess
Jan 13th, 2006, 05:25 PM
Here are some possible 1st round upsets. Any more?

Linetskaya d. [25] Kirilenko (not necessisarily an upset, but a losing seed!)
Raymond d. [18] Likhovtseva (Lisa is always a threat ;) )
Li d. [13] S.Williams (Serena hasn’t played in a while, Na Li is always tough… (I may be dreaming, lol))
Schruff d. [9] Dementieva (Julia can be really tough…)
Craybas d. [23] Jankovic (Jill has always proven to be a good player, Jelena is kinda struggling lately…)
Bychkova d. [29] Koukalova (Klara is only the 29 seed, Bychkova beat Svetlana…)
Hingis d. [30] Zvonareva (it’s Martina Hingis!)
Perry d. [21] Ivanovic (although Ana is tough, she has been struggling a little… Shenay has the potential to pull of this upset if she plays well!)
Frazier d. [27] Bartoli (Amy can always pull of a shocker ;))


i might add Davenport to that list then...

Drake1980
Jan 13th, 2006, 05:29 PM
I like Frazier to beat Bartoli but either way I'll be happy

Sir_Lance
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Davenport to lose - are you sure?!?!?!

Is she injured???

Tennace
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Bychkova d. [29] Koukalova (Klara is only the 29 seed, Bychkova beat Svetlana…)

More like Koukalova def Koukalova. She beats herslef :o

diekedelver
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:41 PM
Vania King of course :o

if she makes it through the qualies :devil:

Tennace
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:42 PM
You're kidding right? Ana lost only twice this year to Sveta and she beat Momo in Sydney...I don't really see the struggling part you're talking about...:shrug:
I agree Milan. Ana snapped Amelies 9 match win streak and made a tier 2 quarterfinal.

SloKid
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:44 PM
More like Koukalova def Koukalova. She beats herslef :o
I'm afraid your right Matt :unsure:

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:47 PM
To all of you who picked Serena to go down to Na Li in the first round, can you please explain your reasons? Other than the usual, Serena is out of shape and not in form. Can you list some of Na Li's attributes that would propel her to a first round slam win against the defending champion of the tournament. Who has she beaten in the last year? What tournaments has she won? What experience does she have in major tournaments? I'm really curious, because I'd like to know who she is and what to look out for when Serena plays her. What are her strengths? What weapons does she possess to hurt Serena with?

timray
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:49 PM
Venus Williams vs. Tszvetana Pironkova
Elena Likhovtseva vs. Lisa Raymond
Serena Williams vs. Na Li
Jelena Jankovic vs. Jill Craybas
Klara Koukalova vs. Ekaterina Bychkova
Patty Schnyder vs. Eleni Daniilidou
Gisela Dulko vs.Maret Ani
Sania Mirza vs. Qualifier
Vera Zvonareva vs. Martina Hingis
Nathalie Dechy vs. Zi Yan

WhatTheDeuce
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:51 PM
To all of you who picked Serena to go down to Na Li in the first round, can you please explain your reasons? Other than the usual, Serena is out of shape and not in form. Can you list some of Na Li's attributes that would propel her to a first round slam win against the defending champion of the tournament. Who has she beaten in the last year? What tournaments has she won? What experience does she have in major tournaments? I'm really curious, because I'd like to know who she is and what to look out for when Serena plays her. What are her strengths? What weapons does she possess to hurt Serena with?
Simple: If Craybas can do it on grass, Li can do it on hard.

Stamp Paid
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:56 PM
Simple: If Craybas can do it on grass, Li can do it on hard.

Serena's ankle is no longer fractured. ;)

RJWCapriati
Jan 13th, 2006, 07:56 PM
I see Li over Williams, and Raymond winning over Likhovtseva, she plays really great at the Aus!

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Simple: If Craybas can do it on grass, Li can do it on hard.
No, you're simple. You don't know the answer, leave it to people who do.

Martian Willow
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Why is it always WS fans who take these threads personally?

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Please, my question does not reflect that I take anyone's predictions personal. I would just like to hear people's opinions on why they made the choice they did. Maybe these people know something I don't know about Na Li, which could be a whole lot since I've really never heard of her until now.

Don't try to turn this into everybody vs. the WS fans. :rolleyes: Try to keep your WS hatred under control at least sometime.

Pengwin
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:35 PM
Please, my question does not reflect that I take anyone's predictions personal. I would just like to hear people's opinions on why they made the choice they did. Maybe these people know something I don't know about Na Li, which could be a whole lot since I've really never heard of her until now.

Don't try to turn this into everybody vs. the WS fans. :rolleyes: Try to keep your WS hatred under control at least sometime.

Well Li Na did take a healthy Davenport to 6-4 6-4, and had chances in the second. She is the kind of player a slightly-off Serena would be punished by, she has big weapons. She's not exactly Cohen-Aloro, or someone Serena could brush aside.

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:37 PM
']Well Li Na did take a healthy Davenport to 6-4 6-4, and had chances in the second. She is the kind of player a slightly-off Serena would be punished by, she has big weapons. She's not exactly Cohen-Aloro, or someone Serena could brush aside.
What are her weapons?

Pengwin
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:38 PM
What are her weapons?

She has a big backhand and a big forehand. She hits very hard on acute angles on her backhand and makes a lot of winners, although is rather erratic and is mentally unstable.

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:40 PM
']She has a big backhand and a big forehand. She hits very hard on acute angles on her backhand and makes a lot of winners, although is rather erratic and is mentally unstable.
When you say big, does she hit with a lot of pace, and are they pretty flat strokes or what? What about her serve?

shap_half
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:41 PM
I really don't think Na Li is going to defeat Serena.

Pengwin
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:43 PM
When you say big, does she hit with a lot of pace, and are they pretty flat strokes or what? What about her serve?

She is very muscular if you see pics of her and has pacey shots, with a bit of topspin. She hits like Davenport, just not as regularly or reliably; but when she's on form she is dangerous.

Her serve is not good. It's slow and unreliable and she hits the worst serves at the most important moments. It's all part of her mental instability, and because of this she does have problems holding serve. She relies a lot on her groundstokes I feel.

jochem
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:55 PM
I can only see Serena lose injured, about Ana Ivanovic is just bullshit, she'll crush Perry....

HAOCHEN-GOAT
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:58 PM
Well, I think Na has the best RETURN of the WTA. It's really amazing. Also, for me has the best double handed backhand (with Medina). But yeah, her serve is not too good, an has instabikky mental. Totally agree with that: "Her serve is not good. It's slow and unreliable and she hits the worst serves at the most important moments. It's all part of her mental instability, and because of this she does have problems holding serve". And the same with UE.

But I only can say she is really more than amazing. And we will see it... i'm sure of that :yeah:

Na :worship:

adam_ads_n
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:58 PM
1st round upsets are always possible, no matter who plays ;)

so i am the only one and say marta will upset justine :p ;) :tape:
you're not the only 1 :D

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2006, 08:59 PM
']She is very muscular if you see pics of her and has pacey shots, with a bit of topspin. She hits like Davenport, just not as regularly or reliably; but when she's on form she is dangerous.

Her serve is not good. It's slow and unreliable and she hits the worst serves at the most important moments. It's all part of her mental instability, and because of this she does have problems holding serve. She relies a lot on her groundstokes I feel.
Well, thanks for this rundown on Na Li. Unless Serena is suffering with that knee, I don't see her losing. She likes heavy balls with pace with a little topspin and if she serves into Serena's wheelhouse, she will eat her serves up. So, I think whether Serena is upset in the first round all depends on her own health.

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2006, 09:04 PM
Well, I think Na has the best RETURN of the WTA. It's really amazing. Also, for me has the best double handed backhand (with Medina). But yeah, her serve is not too good, an has instabikky mental. Totally agree with that: "Her serve is not good. It's slow and unreliable and she hits the worst serves at the most important moments. It's all part of her mental instability, and because of this she does have problems holding serve". And the same with UE.

But I only can say she is really more than amazing. And we will see it... i'm sure of that :yeah:

Na :worship:
A better return than Linds, Serena and JenCap?

Denise4925
Jan 13th, 2006, 09:47 PM
clijsters could easily lose or withdraw, depending on the hip.

p.s. you serena fans are severely delusional :cuckoo:
Based on what?

HAOCHEN-GOAT
Jan 13th, 2006, 10:13 PM
A better return than Linds, Serena and JenCap?

i think so ;) but it's just an opinion

Louis Cyphre
Jan 13th, 2006, 11:05 PM
what about Dechy? Is she injured?Why so many people think that she will lose?Any ideas

Louis Cyphre
Jan 13th, 2006, 11:08 PM
Based on what?
Based on you my darling

~CANUCK~
Jan 13th, 2006, 11:14 PM
Well, thanks for this rundown on Na Li. Unless Serena is suffering with that knee, I don't see her losing. She likes heavy balls with pace with a little topspin and if she serves into Serena's wheelhouse, she will eat her serves up. So, I think whether Serena is upset in the first round all depends on her own health.

Ya you don't have much to worry about in round one. Na is a great player but i think even if serena was at 50-75% her normal self she will win. Not to take anything away from Na who is a great player in her own right, but serena just does everything better then Na. Na has good groundies and will need to be on to at the very most take a set from an unfit serena.

Louis Cyphre
Jan 13th, 2006, 11:19 PM
Ya you don't have much to worry about in round one. Na is a great player but i think even if serena was at 50-75% her normal self she will win. Not to take anything away from Na who is a great player in her own right, but serena just does everything better then Na. Na has good groundies and will need to be on to at the very most take a set from an unfit serena.
honestly i cant imagine how Na Li can take a set from Serena

pcrtennis
Jan 13th, 2006, 11:46 PM
honestly i cant imagine how Na Li can take a set from Serena


Have you ever seen her play? She hits biggggg off the ground.

dinhd82
Jan 13th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Please Martina, win your first round, I don't care how you win it, just do it! do it, DO IT, DO IT!!

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 13th, 2006, 11:52 PM
Based on you my darling

:haha:

Brett.
Jan 14th, 2006, 12:32 AM
I would love to see Sophie (ranked 224) to beat Petrova (ranked 6) would be nice and other thing that Soph have taken a set of Petrova last year. But Petrova is injured!

lee station
Jan 14th, 2006, 02:01 AM
Bye d. Sprem

.....errrr, Bondarenko d. Sprem. Only an upset in terms of ranking, of course.Karolina is going to lose!

Denise4925
Jan 14th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Ya you don't have much to worry about in round one. Na is a great player but i think even if serena was at 50-75% her normal self she will win. Not to take anything away from Na who is a great player in her own right, but serena just does everything better then Na. Na has good groundies and will need to be on to at the very most take a set from an unfit serena.
That's good news. I know you're not a fan of Serena Canuck, and I appreciate your objectivity. :wavey:

Denise4925
Jan 14th, 2006, 07:42 PM
Have you ever seen her play? She hits biggggg off the ground.
Yeah, but they say she's not consistent. I don't know, I've never seen her play. I guess we'll see soon enough though.

Hachiko
Jan 14th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Well I think Li has the potential to beat Serena. She's had much more match experience for starters...

I also think Yan can beat Dechy.

Denise4925
Jan 14th, 2006, 08:21 PM
Well I think Li has the potential to beat Serena. She's had much more match experience for starters...
I also think Yan can beat Dechy.
I don't think that's what you mean, is it?

Derek.
Jan 14th, 2006, 08:21 PM
Taxis for Jankovic, Bartoli, and Hantuchova.

I still find it amazing in how little time you can change from adoring a player to becoming an absolute hater of the same player.

dav abu
Jan 14th, 2006, 08:23 PM
Dani looks very thin at the moment, however I don't think she will go as early as the 1st round.

Darop.
Jan 14th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Who thinks Shennay will upset Ana? :retard:

Shenay has been really playing like cripe, and I think Ana is in a higher league atm.

Derek.
Jan 14th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Dani looks very thin at the moment, however I don't think she will go as early as the 1st round.

Those practice pictures are weird because if you look at her Sydney pictures from less than a week ago, she looks fine. Anyways, she is playing good tennis. She just beat a top ten player.

Darop.
Jan 14th, 2006, 08:26 PM
Have you ever seen her play? She hits biggggg off the ground.

So does Dokic, yet sadly she's losing match after match after match.

I can't see Serena being upset at all :confused:

blumaroo
Jan 14th, 2006, 08:29 PM
Li is afraid to win even if she plays well. And she will be nervous. I remember last year people were saying that Li would give Sharapova problems and Maria crushed her.
Serena will win FOR CERTAIN. And after the interviews Ive read she isn't that out of shape after all.

new-york
Jan 14th, 2006, 09:06 PM
I hope Lisa will upset Elena. :devil:

i'm mad Shennay have to face Ana. just hope Shen will be cometitive and all.

LeRoy.
Jan 14th, 2006, 10:13 PM
Na Li is a very talented player and she gave Lindsay a tough match but i still hope Serena can pull through. I think Serena has a point to prove and a determined Serena can beat anyone even if she isn't in the best of shape.:)

Ellery
Jan 14th, 2006, 10:40 PM
what about Dechy? Is she injured?Why so many people think that she will lose?Any ideas

Nathalie was injured :sad: Don't know what her current form is, but Zi is in great shape ;)

hingis-seles
Jan 14th, 2006, 10:41 PM
I don't know why the Li-Swilliams matches is being hyped to death. It may get close, but I just don't see Serena losing. :shrug:

pcrtennis
Jan 14th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Li is afraid to win even if she plays well. And she will be nervous. I remember last year people were saying that Li would give Sharapova problems and Maria crushed her.
Serena will win FOR CERTAIN. And after the interviews Ive read she isn't that out of shape after all.


Li isn't afraid to win...where'd you come up with that one... :confused: :rolleyes:

If you rely on Serena for your information on her fitness and play you might believe she is ranked number one in the world and won every match she played last year. Of course she isn't going to say she's out of shape...

Na's gonna take it!

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 14th, 2006, 10:47 PM
:haha:

croat123
Jan 14th, 2006, 10:48 PM
sprem def. bondarenko :p

Darop.
Jan 14th, 2006, 10:49 PM
Li isn't afraid to win...where'd you come up with that one... :confused: :rolleyes:

If you rely on Serena for your information on her fitness and play you might believe she is ranked number one in the world and won every match she played last year. Of course she isn't going to say she's out of shape...

Na's gonna take it!

:haha: :haha:

Grachka
Jan 14th, 2006, 11:51 PM
Saori has a chance to unseat an unwell Daniela :angel:

pcrtennis
Jan 14th, 2006, 11:55 PM
So does Dokic, yet sadly she's losing match after match after match.

I can't see Serena being upset at all :confused:


You're really going to compare Li and Dokic at the moment... :confused:

Darop.
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:04 AM
Saori has a chance to unseat an unwell Daniela :angel:

I sense the pissing avatar getting closer and closer... :drool:

Dawn Marie
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:07 AM
What can Na Li do that Serena can't? I am curious about her game. I mean is she quick around the court? Is she good at net? Is she a good defender? How is she going to break Serena if she is not a good server herself? I want to know what will make Na Li beat Serena the first round in this grandslam?

Derek.
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:15 AM
Saori has a chance to unseat an unwell Daniela :angel:

Daniela is fine. All she had was diarrhea. ;)

vwfan
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:27 AM
I don't see Serena losing to Na Li. Only the wishful, hopeful type believe that this is possible. Serena in straight sets. Period.

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:35 AM
Daniela is fine. All she had was diarrhea. ;)

:haha: :rolls:

cartmancop
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:49 AM
Li has the potential to give Serena a great match or crash out in flames. She's kind of inconsistent so you never know which Na is going to show up. She has some good matches against good players but then several losses that make u wonder.... Serena will love the hard flat shots from Li, since she practices often against Venus. Serena will definitely look to take advantage of Li's serve also. Although it may go 3, depending on Serena's form, I think she'll survive the 1R.

Harkleroad over Peng- Very possible. Peng hasn't played a whole lot this year & Ashley had three very impressive scorelines in the QF tourny, so she's obviously playing well. Peng's serve will be a deciding point in this match also I think.

Raymond can beat Likhovtseva. She plays well in Australia & had some OK matches with good players @ the HC.

Daniilidou over Schnyder- Patty hasn't done that great early this year, but neither has Eleni;) No H2H though, so I think it's possible...

I think Azarenka will beat Mirza.
Black over Penneta.
Hingis over Zvonareva- only an upset in terms of ranking...
Yan over Dechy- Dechy's health is in question & I thought she wasn't even coming to the AO?
Frazier over Bartoli

I don't see Ana I. or Hantuchova really having much trouble in the 1R.

IceHock
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:51 AM
it depends how fat serena actually is and her ankles but shell prolly win and as for hantuchova she has no chance of getting beat even if she was ill.

cartmancop
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:52 AM
I forgot to mention Petrova & Clijsters.

If Nadia is injured, I can see her losing...
I could still see Kim winning @ less than 100%, but hopefully it won't come to that...

K-Dog
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:52 AM
What I don't get on this board is when people don't really give legit reasons for not liking a certain player, or even respecting that player. I mean it is okay not to care for a player because you don't like their game, their personality, or for some reason something about them just doesn't agree with you. To not respect a player who has won 7 majors, was no.1 for over a year, and is the defending AO champ is something else. It is either hatred, jealously, or insecurity for your own fav. Us Serena (and Venu fans too) give the benefit of the doubt to the top players and respect what they have what they have done in the sport. We may not want them to win, but we know that they'll get past an opening round and beat the people they're suppose to, and that is reflected in our predictions and thoughts (for the most part with Serena fans). Most of the people I have met that don't like the Williams sisters have no legitimate reason and refuse to really accept what they have done in the sport even though they know it. They claim their game is so hit and miss when they like Maria instead. I mean my own club pro today said he didn't like the sisters because they make so many unforced errors and just hit the ball hard. Then i'm like "How many majors have they won?" Who is your fav? "How many times have they beat your fav and how many majors have they won?" I hate it when the other top players all make a ton of errors yet they aren't persecuted for it. I even asked him "Why don't you like them? He really didn't have an answer for that. (I was going to say "Because they'd still hit the ball better than you and would woop your ass even though you are a teaching pro?" People know that their is nothing wrong with them that they really object to and they refuse to respect them like they respect other players with less achievements than them. I have reasons for not liking Maria, Kim, Justine, and Jennifer. I don't hide them, but I also know they are great players that can be world-beaters when they are playing well. Show some class and respect to Serena Williams, one of the best players to have pick up a racquet in the history of tennis. Thanks.

Corswandt
Jan 15th, 2006, 12:58 AM
In the match against Lena D at HK, Serena Williams' game was almost unspeakably shite. If she played like that at the AO, she would lose in straight sets, no matter how crap the opponent. But I just don't believe Serena Williams will play that bad ever again. So I don't really think an upset is likely to happen on this match.

Possible upsets:

Maybe I'm underestimating Schiavone's fighting spirit, but I fear she may be so down she may crash out on the first round. That loss in the Sydney final would finish most mortals.

Mara Santangelo beating Golovin. Unlikely to happen, but it would do wonders for my rather low TennisPool WTA score (the ATP one is somewhat better).

Masha retiring injured.

Lena D losing to Schruff. You just can never know with the Golden One.

Kirilenko losing to Linetskaya.

ALG losing to Pous Tio.

Dawn Marie
Jan 15th, 2006, 01:01 AM
it depends how fat serena actually is and her ankles but shell prolly win and as for hantuchova she has no chance of getting beat even if she was ill.

This is where you need to chill. As much as I like Daniela's game I have a feeling she is going to get beat in the first round. Just a feeling. I hope I am wrong.

IceHock
Jan 15th, 2006, 01:05 AM
im sry that i told the truth its not like im gunna say serena is super skinny now and in the best shape ever!!

careyscott
Jan 15th, 2006, 01:43 AM
What I don't get on this board is when people don't really give legit reasons for not liking a certain player, or even respecting that player. I mean it is okay not to care for a player because you don't like their game, their personality, or for some reason something about them just doesn't agree with you. To not respect a player who has won 7 majors, was no.1 for over a year, and is the defending AO champ is something else. It is either hatred, jealously, or insecurity for your own fav. Us Serena (and Venu fans too) give the benefit of the doubt to the top players and respect what they have what they have done in the sport. We may not want them to win, but we know that they'll get past an opening round and beat the people they're suppose to, and that is reflected in our predictions and thoughts (for the most part with Serena fans). Most of the people I have met that don't like the Williams sisters have no legitimate reason and refuse to really accept what they have done in the sport even though they know it. They claim their game is so hit and miss when they like Maria instead. I mean my own club pro today said he didn't like the sisters because they make so many unforced errors and just hit the ball hard. Then i'm like "How many majors have they won?" Who is your fav? "How many times have they beat your fav and how many majors have they won?" I hate it when the other top players all make a ton of errors yet they aren't persecuted for it. I even asked him "Why don't you like them? He really didn't have an answer for that. (I was going to say "Because they'd still hit the ball better than you and would woop your ass even though you are a teaching pro?" People know that their is nothing wrong with them that they really object to and they refuse to respect them like they respect other players with less achievements than them. I have reasons for not liking Maria, Kim, Justine, and Jennifer. I don't hide them, but I also know they are great players that can be world-beaters when they are playing well. Show some class and respect to Serena Williams, one of the best players to have pick up a racquet in the history of tennis. Thanks.

I can't speak for anyone else but I don't pick my favourite players based on how successful they are - in fact sometimes just the opposite. I didn't like Navratilova, Graf(until she quit) and I don't have any use for the Williams sisters but like the others I mentioned they are great players and have achieved amazing things. I generally like underdogs or players who march to a little differnt beat than everbody else. Pedigree'd athletes who have been touted since childhood bore me. That the sisters would be succesful is old news but that Lindsay "dumptruck" Davenport would, despite an impressive junior career, turn out to be a pretty decent athelete is a surprise. The Williams sisters with their multi million dollar contracts as victims just doesn't fly. I also find the garish outfits and pandering to the crowd distasteful (everytime I see that hyper extended elbow on Serena's wave I just want to break her arm) - I'm old school if Chris Evert wouldn't do it then it shouldn't be done. I'm not sure this really happens accept in the minds of rabid William's fans but anyone who would undermine their achievments is disrespecting not only them but the game and doing it to other players is equally misguided.

careyscott
Jan 15th, 2006, 01:55 AM
Serena is not headed for a 1st round upset. I am definitely rooting for Frazier over Bartoli. While Likhotseva has not looked impressive Raymond has been off her game for more than a year.

Hantuchova looks thin because she had stomach virus (ie. the Hershey squirts) but her form looks pretty good. I also think Jancovic will handle Craybas. Clijsters is more complicated but if she isn't practicing she could be vulnerable. Koukolova has looked rough. I think Hingis will win over headcase Zvonereva if she can keep it close.

I'm most interested to see what is going on with Myskina and Pierce as we have not had the opportunity to see them. Pierce could beat Pratt even when she was fat.

louisa2k2
Jan 15th, 2006, 02:08 AM
I could see Hantuchova losing - she wasnt looking good when i saw her play in sydney, her shots were pretty eratic. But if she can play consistently then she'll def get past first round.
Cant see serena losing in the first round as much as i dont like her she is a better player than that.
Ana losing in the first round no way! she has the shot making ability and great natural talent, she played some amazing tennis at sydney to beat amelie, it was my 2nd fave match of the tournament. The best was martinas cos i actually got to see her play live :)

shnit.
Jan 15th, 2006, 02:16 AM
it depends how fat serena actually is and her ankles but shell prolly win and as for hantuchova she has no chance of getting beat even if she was ill.

Uhmm, seriously, can we tone down on the rudeness. :rolleyes: And as for Hantuchova, I'm a big fat ass fan of hers, but you should know by now that with her, you never know what kind of Daniela shows up every match. K, thanks.

beauty_is_pink
Jan 15th, 2006, 02:17 AM
it depends how fat serena actually is and her ankles but shell prolly win and as for hantuchova she has no chance of getting beat even if she was ill.
it's "fans" like you that gives Daniela's real fans a bad name

Brooks.
Jan 15th, 2006, 03:12 AM
this is tennis....anything can happen...let's just wait and see

MisterMan
Jan 15th, 2006, 03:24 AM
hantuchova she has no chance of getting beat even if she was ill.

Tell that to Melanie Gloria :)

shnit.
Jan 15th, 2006, 03:29 AM
Yea, K. We will thanks. K.

madame_maria
Jan 15th, 2006, 03:46 AM
What I don't get on this board is when people don't really give legit reasons for not liking a certain player, or even respecting that player. I mean it is okay not to care for a player because you don't like their game, their personality, or for some reason something about them just doesn't agree with you. To not respect a player who has won 7 majors, was no.1 for over a year, and is the defending AO champ is something else. It is either hatred, jealously, or insecurity for your own fav. Us Serena (and Venu fans too) give the benefit of the doubt to the top players and respect what they have what they have done in the sport. We may not want them to win, but we know that they'll get past an opening round and beat the people they're suppose to, and that is reflected in our predictions and thoughts (for the most part with Serena fans). Most of the people I have met that don't like the Williams sisters have no legitimate reason and refuse to really accept what they have done in the sport even though they know it. They claim their game is so hit and miss when they like Maria instead. I mean my own club pro today said he didn't like the sisters because they make so many unforced errors and just hit the ball hard. Then i'm like "How many majors have they won?" Who is your fav? "How many times have they beat your fav and how many majors have they won?" I hate it when the other top players all make a ton of errors yet they aren't persecuted for it. I even asked him "Why don't you like them? He really didn't have an answer for that. (I was going to say "Because they'd still hit the ball better than you and would woop your ass even though you are a teaching pro?" People know that their is nothing wrong with them that they really object to and they refuse to respect them like they respect other players with less achievements than them. I have reasons for not liking Maria, Kim, Justine, and Jennifer. I don't hide them, but I also know they are great players that can be world-beaters when they are playing well. Show some class and respect to Serena Williams, one of the best players to have pick up a racquet in the history of tennis. Thanks.

am i the only one who believes this guy establishes hypocrisy at the highest level yet?

he goes around slamming the other players and not having respect for any of them, yet he wishes to command respect for the players he idolizes. it could be blind fanatism at its peak. look at all other previous threads that he posted in, with atrocious remarks that degrades other top players. how ironic considering the effort he has gone through to post such a comment asking for respect, peace and the basic unity of all tennis fans.

another thing, he clearly disrespects a "tennis senior" from his supposed club just because that person disagrees with what he chooses to believe in.

rude, and absolutely bonkers. i salute you man!

(and i know he can't see my msg)

K-Dog
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:02 AM
am i the only one who believes this guy establishes hypocrisy at the highest level yet?

he goes around slamming the other players and not having respect for any of them, yet he wishes to command respect for the players he idolizes. it could be blind fanatism at its peak. look at all other previous threads that he posted in, with atrocious remarks that degrades other top players. how ironic considering the effort he has gone through to post such a comment asking for respect, peace and the basic unity of all tennis fans.

another thing, he clearly disrespects a "tennis senior" from his supposed club just because that person disagrees with what he chooses to believe in.

rude, and absolutely bonkers. i salute you man!

(and i know he can't see my msg)

nah, having you on my ignore really isn't fun anymore. i like to read the shit you write about me. since you have like 120 posts and prob most are directed at me and all. Why is it that whenever I post something, you're here to stalk me? Did you read the PM I sent you. LEAVE ME ALONE!! I don't talk to you, you don't talk to me. Get over it!! What I said about Maria happened like a month ago and I didn't even remember it until now. Geez, get off my back and move on. This tennis senior is not even 10 years older than me, so whatever you want to say go ahead. I said quite clearly that I don't like other players, but I respect their abilities to win. Oh well, some ppl.

azmad_88
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:16 AM
i think Serena can beat Na Li sumthing like 6-3 6-3

Hingis will most probably upset Zvonareva

madame_maria
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:31 AM
nah, having you on my ignore really isn't fun anymore. i like to read the shit you write about me. since you have like 120 posts and prob most are directed at me and all. Why is it that whenever I post something, you're here to stalk me? Did you read the PM I sent you. LEAVE ME ALONE!! I don't talk to you, you don't talk to me. Get over it!! What I said about Maria happened like a month ago and I didn't even remember it until now. Geez, get off my back and move on. This tennis senior is not even 10 years older than me, so whatever you want to say go ahead. I said quite clearly that I don't like other players, but I respect their abilities to win. Oh well, some ppl.

now now, you forgot whatever dismeandour you had "a month ago" so quickly? wow, that's fast, considering now you've already developed a sense of tranquility in encourage global unity. oh and the highlighted bit. you didn't say that. i guess your "a month ago" memory ain't that good huh.

and i don't write shit boy, i address concrete issues and give substantiated points.

K-Dog
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:49 AM
now now, you forgot whatever dismeandour you had "a month ago" so quickly? wow, that's fast, considering now you've already developed a sense of tranquility in encourage global unity. oh and the highlighted bit. you didn't say that. i guess your "a month ago" memory ain't that good huh.

and i don't write shit boy, i address concrete issues and give substantiated points.

i'm sorry, my head doesn't often go to the subject of maria too often or evey post I type. I have other things to do. All you do is stalk me. STOP IT!!

Derek.
Jan 15th, 2006, 04:59 AM
hantuchova she has no chance of getting beat even if she was ill.

Tell that to Melanie Gloria :)

:yawn: That was more than a year ago.

madame_maria
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:32 AM
i'm sorry, my head doesn't often go to the subject of maria too often or evey post I type. I have other things to do. All you do is stalk me. STOP IT!!

dear mr. misunderstood,

i guess you have misunderstood my intentions. to reliterate, i did not mention "Maria", or "Sharapova", or for the sake "Maria Sharapova" in my previous reply.

i was basically directing my opinion towards your hypocrisy to which you see the personal right to criticise and insult tennis players that you do not which to respect, while at the same time requesting for respect from people who do the same to tennis players you have eternal fanship for.

i'm saying, you can't go around bashing Maria, or Justine, or Kim, or Lindsay or any other player for that matter of fact, and be upset whenever someone does the same to say Serena or Venus.

please do note that i have NEVER insulted any players on this board since my registration to be officially a member after months of reading the forums.

love,
Me =)

K-Dog
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:34 AM
dear mr. misunderstood,

i guess you have misunderstood my intentions. to reliterate, i did not mention "Maria", or "Sharapova", or for the sake "Maria Sharapova" in my previous reply.

i was basically directing my opinion towards your hypocrisy to which you see the personal right to criticise and insult tennis players that you do not which to respect, while at the same time requesting for respect from people who do the same to tennis players you have eternal fanship for.

i'm saying, you can't go around bashing Maria, or Justine, or Kim, or Lindsay or any other player for that matter of fact, and be upset whenever someone does the same to say Serena or Venus.

please do note that i have NEVER insulted any players on this board since my registration to be officially a member after months of reading the forums.

love,
Me =)

the thing is, I respect all these girl's talents, but I don't care for them. certain players bug me, OH WELL!! again, this is done. let it be done, please. i don't want to hear anything terrible from you again.

madame_maria
Jan 15th, 2006, 05:38 AM
the thing is, I respect all these girl's talents, but I don't care for them. certain players bug me, OH WELL!! again, this is done. let it be done, please. i don't want to hear anything terrible from you again.

sure thing. hooray to our newfound stalemate.

hopefully i won't have the misfortune of witnessing another relapse of you-know-what.

tatas mate.

Grachka
Jan 15th, 2006, 09:53 AM
as for hantuchova she has no chance of getting beat even if she was ill.
Uh-huh.

*sighs*

Some people should have respect.

*sighs*

Saori may not be a world-beater, but she is quite handy at taking advantage of a player's bad form, so if Daniela isn't setting the heather alight, she's in trouble :)

Kunal
Jan 15th, 2006, 10:24 AM
rena...hopefully not

sania (she is seeded)

LefandePatty
Jan 15th, 2006, 03:58 PM
Daniilidou def. Schnyder :hehehe:

:rolleyes:

Denise4925
Jan 15th, 2006, 08:01 PM
What I don't get on this board is when people don't really give legit reasons for not liking a certain player, or even respecting that player. I mean it is okay not to care for a player because you don't like their game, their personality, or for some reason something about them just doesn't agree with you. To not respect a player who has won 7 majors, was no.1 for over a year, and is the defending AO champ is something else. It is either hatred, jealously, or insecurity for your own fav. Us Serena (and Venu fans too) give the benefit of the doubt to the top players and respect what they have what they have done in the sport. We may not want them to win, but we know that they'll get past an opening round and beat the people they're suppose to, and that is reflected in our predictions and thoughts (for the most part with Serena fans). Most of the people I have met that don't like the Williams sisters have no legitimate reason and refuse to really accept what they have done in the sport even though they know it. They claim their game is so hit and miss when they like Maria instead. I mean my own club pro today said he didn't like the sisters because they make so many unforced errors and just hit the ball hard. Then i'm like "How many majors have they won?" Who is your fav? "How many times have they beat your fav and how many majors have they won?" I hate it when the other top players all make a ton of errors yet they aren't persecuted for it. I even asked him "Why don't you like them? He really didn't have an answer for that. (I was going to say "Because they'd still hit the ball better than you and would woop your ass even though you are a teaching pro?" People know that their is nothing wrong with them that they really object to and they refuse to respect them like they respect other players with less achievements than them. I have reasons for not liking Maria, Kim, Justine, and Jennifer. I don't hide them, but I also know they are great players that can be world-beaters when they are playing well. Show some class and respect to Serena Williams, one of the best players to have pick up a racquet in the history of tennis. Thanks.
:worship: :worship: :worship:
My tennis pro is the same. His reason for not liking the sisters is their father. I asked him, what does that have to do with them and their game and he couldn't really answer and changed the subject. I didn't want to push it with him, because I want to get the best instruction I can without animosity from my pro, but it made me lose respect for him.

Denise4925
Jan 15th, 2006, 08:05 PM
it's "fans" like you that gives Daniela's real fans a bad name
To the real Daniela fans :worship: :worship: :worship:

améliemomo
Jan 15th, 2006, 08:50 PM
I don't think Perry will get past Ivanovic. Ivanovic has some great form making the Sydney SF and beat Mauresmo (last years YEC champion).



it was sydney quarter lol and was the first amélie match in australia,I dont think ana would beat her with some matchs behind the french player.

Corswandt
Jan 16th, 2006, 05:51 PM
In the match against Lena D at HK, Serena Williams' game was almost unspeakably shite. If she played like that at the AO, she would lose in straight sets, no matter how crap the opponent. But I just don't believe Serena Williams will play that bad ever again. So I don't really think an upset is likely to happen on this match.

Possible upsets:

Maybe I'm underestimating Schiavone's fighting spirit, but I fear she may be so down she may crash out on the first round. That loss in the Sydney final would finish most mortals.

Mara Santangelo beating Golovin. Unlikely to happen, but it would do wonders for my rather low TennisPool WTA score (the ATP one is somewhat better).

Masha retiring injured.

Lena D losing to Schruff. You just can never know with the Golden One.

Kirilenko losing to Linetskaya.

ALG losing to Pous Tio.

Got Santangelo and Lena D right, Kirilenko and Masha (Wow! Was she awesome!) wrong. Let's wait for ALG and Schiavone.

timray
Jan 17th, 2006, 08:50 AM
Venus Williams vs. Tszvetana Pironkova
Elena Likhovtseva vs. Lisa Raymond
Serena Williams vs. Na Li
Jelena Jankovic vs. Jill Craybas
Klara Koukalova vs. Ekaterina Bychkova
Patty Schnyder vs. Eleni Daniilidou
Gisela Dulko vs.Maret Ani
Sania Mirza vs. Qualifier
Vera Zvonareva vs. Martina Hingis
Nathalie Dechy vs. Zi Yan

I only got 4 out of 10 right :devil:

Corswandt
Jan 17th, 2006, 06:03 PM
Got Schiavone wrong (fortunately), though it seems she struggled, and ALG wrong too.

2 out of 5. I predicted Masha to retire due to injury, not to lose, but since she won and seems in fine shape, it must count as "wrong".

leviathane
Jan 17th, 2006, 11:28 PM
Here are some possible 1st round upsets. Any more?

Linetskaya d. [25] Kirilenko (not necessisarily an upset, but a losing seed!)
Raymond d. [18] Likhovtseva (Lisa is always a threat ;) )
Li d. [13] S.Williams (Serena hasn’t played in a while, Na Li is always tough… (I may be dreaming, lol))
Schruff d. [9] Dementieva (Julia can be really tough…)
Craybas d. [23] Jankovic (Jill has always proven to be a good player, Jelena is kinda struggling lately…)
Bychkova d. [29] Koukalova (Klara is only the 29 seed, Bychkova beat Svetlana…)
Hingis d. [30] Zvonareva (it’s Martina Hingis!)
Perry d. [21] Ivanovic (although Ana is tough, she has been struggling a little… Shenay has the potential to pull of this upset if she plays well!)
Frazier d. [27] Bartoli (Amy can always pull of a shocker ;))

i love lindsay , your prediction were :rolleyes:
only for Schruff, Hingis ,Bychkova

twight6
Jan 18th, 2006, 12:01 PM
i love lindsay , your prediction were :rolleyes:
only for Schruff, Hingis ,Bychkova

hey, i was not predicting anything. i was just stating what upsets would be possible if the unseeded played well.

Linetskaya d. [25] Kirilenko (Linetskaya was hurt, retired)
Raymond d. [18] Likhovtseva (two tie-break sets)
Li d. [13] S.Williams (Li took a set from her)
Schruff d. [9] Dementieva (right)
Craybas d. [23] Jankovic (3 sets, 2 and 3 were 6-4 close ones)
Bychkova d. [29] Koukalova (right)
Hingis d. [30] Zvonareva (right)
Perry d. [21] Ivanovic (6-4, 6-4, not exactly a blow-out)
Frazier d. [27] Bartoli (6-3, 6-2, basically a solid win)

So, aside from the frazier upset i would say my "predictions" were backed up, since they all could have easily went in the other direction with just a few games. so how bout if you calm down cause this was not meant to be a hate thread in any way, nor was it to put down any players in the least! it was just to start a discussion about possible upsets. So don't :rolleyes: at me!