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cynicole
Sep 20th, 2001, 05:12 PM
With little argument I think we could mostly agree that Jennifer Capriati and Venus Williams were the two most impressive players of 2001. The question - Who is this year's 3rd Most Impressive player? (Thus far, anyway.)

Things to consider...

Kim Clijsters
- Started as no.18; now is no.5
- RG runner-up after having lost in the 1R the year before and after coming into the tourney on a 3 match losing streak.
- Oz R4 (Davenport)
- Wimbledon QF (Davenport)
- US QF (Venus)
- 1 Title - Stanford (d. Davenport)
- Made the finals of Indian Wells (lost to Serena) and Heineken Trophy (lost to Henin).

Lindsay Davenport
- Has never been ranked lower than no.4 this year.
- 4 Titles.
- Oz SF (Capriati)
- Wimbledon SF (Venus)
- US QF (Serena)

Justine Henin
- Started year as no.45; now no.8.
- Went from no.100 to no.5 in about one year.
- Wimbledon runner-up.
- Oz R4 (Seles)
- RG SF (Clijsters)
- US R4 (Serena)
- 3 Titles.
- Has wins over both Venus (Berlin) and Capriati (Wimbledon SF).

Martina Hingis
- Still manages to cling to no.1 (but for how much longer)
- 3 Titles.
- Oz runner-up.
- RG SF (Capriati)
- US SF (Serena)
- Plays more than almost everyone else and has the most consistent results.

Amelie Mauresmo
- no.6
- 4 Titles (clay and carpet).
- Had the longest win streak this year (17).
- Oz R4 (Venus)
- Wimbledon R3 (Tanasugarn)
- US QF (Capriati)

Serena Williams
- U.S. Open runner-up.
- Oz QF (Hingis)
- RG QF (Capriati)
- Wimbledon QF (Capriati)
- 2 Titles (Indian Wells and Toronto).
- Played so few tourneys but has been ranked the top 10 throughout.

[ September 20, 2001: Message edited by: cynicole ]

Sonja
Sep 20th, 2001, 05:17 PM
Guess who I chose <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

brickhousesupporter
Sep 20th, 2001, 05:20 PM
Serena,
She made it to at least the quaterfinals in all the slams and has won 2 tier 1 events. That is consistency also.

paul_masterton
Sep 20th, 2001, 06:59 PM
None of the above. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Is Karen paterson in my view. how many of them ahve improved there ranking in both singles and doubles by 400 places in 8 months?

Paul

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 20th, 2001, 07:32 PM
3rd most impressive ...... on that list is Justine Henin , a brilliant start to the year , followed by Semis in Paris , Wimbledon final.

Dahveed
Sep 20th, 2001, 09:21 PM
I'd vote Amélie but my vote has to go to Serena! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

carot
Sep 20th, 2001, 10:51 PM
juju of course

Susie
Sep 21st, 2001, 01:53 AM
Hmmmm wonder who i voted for <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

cynicole
Sep 21st, 2001, 03:50 PM
I put all those fancy-smancy stats up in my first post but I generally disregarded most of it when I made my vote.

I used the word IMPRESSIVE and not BEST because Best would've meant a vote for Lindsay Davenport.

For me, the match that will stand out is the Henin-Capriati match from Wimbledon. I don't think I could ever forget Justine Henin, choking away that RG semifinal and then returning to another semifinal, wincing in pain with those blisters and blowing Jennifer Capriati off the court after having been one set down. And it's always refreshing to see a small finesse featherweight do so well.

Using the same defininitions regarding Capriati and Venus Williams I would say that Capriati was the better player this year but Venus Williams impressed me a whole lot more, despite the comeback story.

The point that decided it for me?

When Capriati got mad she'd start going into near-tantrums and seriously lose her concentration. Whenever Venus appeared to get mad (yeah, she almost always looked cool) she'd crank her game up to an amazing level.

And there was no doubt how good a champion Venus was when she won Wimbledon and the U.S. Open. She truly dominated her opponents and played at a very high level. I personally think that Capriati was lucky to pick up that Roland Garros title. Clijsters gave it away on two unforced errors and, after seeing what happened at Wimbledon, I'm sure Henin would've walloped Capriati in the final had she not choked in the SF. (A bit WHAT IF if there ever was one.)

Another thing to be said for both Venus and Justine...

After that loss to Meghann Shaughnessy, Venus Williams defeated all comers, including Davenport (twice), Capriati (twice), Seles, Tauziat, Clijsters and little sis Serena in straight sets. The only one who wrestled a set away from her: Justine Henin (at New Haven).

[ September 21, 2001: Message edited by: cynicole ]

Justinator
Sep 21st, 2001, 05:51 PM
Definitely Justine! She has been the biggest surprise this year. If you take Serena or Mauresmo, they had really great results, but it wasn't such a big surpise.
I hadn't even expected Justine to make it to the finals of Wimbledon.

padfoot
Sep 23rd, 2001, 05:16 PM
Muresmo who else??? <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/hearts.gif" border="0">

Randy H
Sep 23rd, 2001, 05:24 PM
I'd probably go with Justine, as far as the most impressive. She started out the year really hot, had a good Australian Open, continued to stay steady to Roland Garros, imroved even more, amking the semis. After a tough loss, played amazing in the grass tuneup, then came to Wimbledon with a fantastic showing, ousting Capriati. Hardcourt season was also quite steady, and had a good US Open, but fell to Serena who was just too good that day really. Justine has climbed up the rankings, and not just with a few patchy inconsistent results. She proved her start to the year was no fluke, and that she is here to stay. Full credit has to go to her for maintaining such brilliant play all year long, and proving that even when she did come up with the short end of the stick, she's learned from the experiences, and clearly showed continued improvement.

Justine gets my vote <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

griffin
Sep 24th, 2001, 03:50 PM
Give me a minute - I'm having a hard time with the idea of voting Momo 3RD PLACE anything...

CB
Sep 24th, 2001, 04:54 PM
Justine!
She climbed more than 40 positions in the ranking! No one ever expected that! <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

auntie janie
Sep 26th, 2001, 01:51 AM
Absolutely Justine! <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">

RMC
Sep 26th, 2001, 04:54 AM
I am a biased Serena fan, but..

She won IW under tremendous pressure (boos).

She overcame tendency to choke and ended up beating Monica and Capriati to win her most recent title.

She beat Henin, Lindsay and Martina in the USOpen to win what may have been the toughest half draw we've seen in a long time!

No, she embarrassed the number one seed at the USOpen.

[ September 25, 2001: Message edited by: rmc ]

RMC
Sep 26th, 2001, 04:55 AM
I am surprised that Monica Seles isn't a candidate!

cynicole
Sep 26th, 2001, 04:32 PM
Yeah, I left Monica Seles off....but on purpose. She missed Roland Garros and Wimbledon this year and she got bounced by Daja Bedanova in the 4th round of the U.S. Open. None of those looked too good for her.

She has racked up some impressive wins though...but all on hard court it seems.

All but one of those I listed made at least the semifinals of a GS event. The exception, Mauresmo, has 4 titles, the long win streak of the year, and bounced back from injury to get back to her career high of no.6 in the world. Seles had started out the year as 4, I think....and now she's just fighting to stay in the top 10.

And if I listed Seles, what's to keep me from adding Jelena Dokic (2 titles now) and Meghann Shaughnessy (high climber in the rankings; beat Venus at Stanford). I had to draw a line somewhere.

As for Serena vs Justine...
The argument here is VERY CLOSE. They both had some physical and mental problems this year...and both overcame them somewhat. Too bad they both had to meet up with Venus in their respective finals.

I don't think we could read much into their U.S. Open encounter. Neither looked like they played all that well (to me anyway) and only Serena picked it up in the 2nd (obviously). It's Serena's favorite surface and Deco Turf doesn't seem to agree with Henin. Not yet anyway.

You could say that Henin was very lucky in some of her GS appearances this year. Venus and Hingis were taken out in her Round of 16s...but if you consider her form at that time and the fact that she had walloped Venus in Berlin and that Hingis had been losing to too many people, you had to like her chances.

If you ask me, I think Capriati was by far the luckiest this year.

thefreedesigner
Sep 26th, 2001, 04:44 PM
For me Justine would nab that spot, though Kim has consistency (which I'm not sure Justine quite has yet).

Lapin
Sep 26th, 2001, 11:14 PM
I just have to vote for Amelie! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

incognita
Sep 27th, 2001, 10:27 AM
Amelie !!! <IMG SRC="smilies/hearts.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/kiss.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/hearts.gif" border="0">

garbogirl14
Oct 6th, 2001, 04:49 PM
Amelie <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

saki
Oct 6th, 2001, 05:25 PM
Why are so many people voting for Mauresmo? *just asking, please don't kill me!*

Lindsay has the same number of titles, but much better Slam results. And every other player here has much better Slam results than she does, so I really don't understand the logic behind saying that she's the 3rd best player at the moment.

I'd go for either Lindsay or Martina. Lindsay has one more title (and I think hers were higher tiers - not sure though?) but Martina has done very well in the Grand Slams. Two semis and a final against Lindsay's two QFs and a semi.

Rollo
Oct 6th, 2001, 06:37 PM
Davenport, Serena, Hingis, and the two Belgians are all close-I'd give it to the one who does best or wins in Munich.

I'm with you on Mauresmo Sk. Only a fan would put her at higher than 8 after her gag and choke in Paris. Momo's got the talent, but
she's kept it hidden after early this year <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

Crazy Canuck
Oct 6th, 2001, 10:16 PM
I'll say Justine. I pick Justine over Kim in part because of her Wimbledon upset of Jennifer. Justine showed she can take out a top player when it mattered (not that Kim can't!).

i also pick her over Lindsay, because lindsay didn't make a grand slam final this year.

Wimble_Don
Oct 7th, 2001, 06:41 AM
If Monica Seles hadn't missed the clay court season due to that darn injury, I think she possibly could have been the 3rd most impressive player of the year.

Being the biased Seles fan that I am, I still would pick her <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> After missing five months and then coming back with impressive results... But I do admit her Grand Slam results this year have been lacking so that counts against her.

Seldom
Oct 7th, 2001, 07:00 AM
when i read that all on the players from cynicole, i'd say it has to be JUSTINE

JCAPfan
Oct 7th, 2001, 07:48 AM
No doubt that Jennifer Capriati is the most impressive player of the year!! The 2nd one should be Justine Henin, the most surprised player of the year, with her ranking just inside the Top 50 at the beginning of the year, and jumped up into Top 10 in just six months!!! She nearly made 2 Grand Slams finals in this year too!!!

irma
Oct 7th, 2001, 08:06 AM
Kimmy because every time people said she would never achieve something she did it right after <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smileyshot.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">

ys
Oct 7th, 2001, 08:09 AM
Seles. She impressed me plenty with her comeback. If she keeps on going, she'll be in Top 3 by next Wimbledon.

thefreedesigner
Oct 7th, 2001, 08:29 AM
Forgot about this topic!!

talking about 3rd most impressive player it has nothing to do with ranking, so I can't understand how a fan of Lindsay could describe her year as anything other than 'frustrating'. 'Impressive'? Hell no.

Monica's comeback (ugh that's not the right word, but what is?) from injury was impressive, but I'm thinking that over the whole year, she's not had a 'WOW' kind of year.

I think the way that Kim has gone about her business this year certainly was a 'WOW'. Defending Leipzig so comprehensively, RU at IW and RG. A contender in most tournaments that she contests....GS slam performance (RG aside) has been a little ragged though.

Mauresmo certainly has impressed at points throughout the year, and is still a threat to anybody. However, she seemed spend a lot of her time avoiding confrontations with the big players (maybe a little harsh?).

Jennifer Capriati, of course is 'WOW' #1. When she won Oz it was 'WOW'. RG was, like 'Double WOW', and absolutely all credit to her for that.

Venus is very close behind for 'WOW' #2. 'All' she did was to 'V-peat', but to do it so serenely, and to make it look easier than the first time was, for me, a very big 'WOW'.

'WOW' #3 would be either Silvia Farina or Justine Henin. And because Justine did it where it counts (ie business-end of GS') she gets it.

btw 'WOW', but for the wrong reasons goes to Mary Pierce. <IMG SRC="smilies/sad.gif" border="0">

[ October 07, 2001: Message edited by: thefreedesigner ]

Alek
Oct 7th, 2001, 08:30 AM
Nancy Loeffler-Caro <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> No one expected her to win a match in her career ... But suddenly she beta Becky Brown 6-1, 6-2 <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> and after again bad results she went to Quebec City Qualifying and DANG DANG! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> she beat Karen Fodera <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Nancy has won 2 matches this year and becoming better <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> all her effort is giving nice things :´-D

Now if I have to choose one of the listed <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> Maybe Justine Henin or Kim Clijsters even though I am not fan of them <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

But Serena I think should be #3

ANYWAYS GO MONICA <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

NejedlyKanepi
Oct 14th, 2001, 05:22 AM
amelie also <IMG SRC="smilies/hearts.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/drool.gif" border="0">

RJWCapriati
Apr 18th, 2007, 02:29 AM
Henin - great breakout year!

!!!--Duiz™--!!!
Apr 19th, 2007, 06:52 AM
:haha:

Callystarr
Apr 19th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Talking about bringing a topic back from the past..*smh