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king416
Aug 17th, 2005, 10:52 PM
There seems to be such a split view on this! I keep on seeing the two used and i don't know which is which, so.... a poll will help decide :lol:

king416
Aug 17th, 2005, 10:54 PM
To the poll question, its just a bit of a laugh mate :D

njnetswill
Aug 17th, 2005, 10:57 PM
You would call her Li Na in person, never Na Li. However, Li IS the "family name", but comes first. Once again: It's Na Li for the draws and stuff, but you would call her Li Na.

Shonami Slam
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:00 PM
Zheng.

:p

roxi
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:20 PM
Do Chinese people have names with more than five letter in it????? Shaui is the longest name that I know!

No Name Face
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:23 PM
li na

Natasha250688
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:27 PM
Do Chinese people have names with more than five letter in it?????

:lol: :yeah:

njnetswill
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:40 PM
Do Chinese people have names with more than five letter in it????? Shaui is the longest name that I know!

I believe the longest word in Chinese is six letters. Most things, like apples and computers, use more than one word.

roxi
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:44 PM
I believe the longest word in Chinese is six letters. Most things, like apples and computers, use more than one word.
Really??? Six !!!!! I think it's cute Na Li , Ting Li , Tian Tian Sun( def. my fave), Shaui Peng ....

Jakeev
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:55 PM
As much as I respect the chinese culture of the surname first, it just sounds better when you anounce the birthname first like we all are used to.

I guess the Chinese girls are probably used to it by now.

beauty_is_pink
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:55 PM
it could be different, in Asian countries (well me being Vietnamese this is what we do) we say the last name first then the surname.. so I'd be: Nguyen Maria.
In North America and Europe they use the first name, then the last name: Maria Nguyen.

So I guess it could be right either way, depending on which country background you are using it in... that's my 2 cents :p

.ivy.
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:58 PM
Also, all Chinese names are either 2 words or 3 words (total)

Nowhere near all. More like most.

Generalizing statements are just stupid.

njnetswill
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:58 PM
As much as I respect the chinese culture of the surname first, it just sounds better when you anounce the birthname first like we all are used to.

I guess the Chinese girls are probably used to it by now.

But when you say it backwards it can really change what the name means. Na Li is like "Where?!" in Chinese.

roxi
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:59 PM
In Croatia you can say Šprem Karolina and Karolina Šprem !!!!!! But we usually say name first!!!!!!!!!

njnetswill
Aug 17th, 2005, 11:59 PM
Nowhere near all. More like most.

Generalizing statements are just stupid.

I've never met someone with just one or 4 words in their name... :shrug:

LeRoy.
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:04 AM
Are Yuping /Xiofeng chinese names ?

.ivy.
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:04 AM
Are you Chinese? :retard:

Yes. What has that got anything to do with it?

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:05 AM
What about surnames!!! I know some TT player and his surname is Guozheng that looks to me like two words in one???

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:07 AM
I remembered one TT player Jianfeng Niu she has 8 letters in her name or is it her surname????

njnetswill
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:08 AM
I remembered one TT player Jianfeng Niu she has 8 letters in her name or is it her surname????

Jian and Feng are two different words.

.ivy.
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:09 AM
I remembered one TT player Jianfeng Niu she has 8 letters in her name or is it her surname????

Jian Feng Niu, is more like it. The Jian is her surname, Feng her middle name, and Niu, her first.

Does that help?

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:13 AM
Niu is her surname I'm sure because she was in draw in final Niu - Liu like( Zheng - Sprem)
and they have written Jianfeng like one word!!!

hartnett
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:15 AM
in china we call she "li na "(李娜) "li "is family name ,same with her father ,her grandfather.
so the same with TTplayer jianfeng niu,her name 牛剑锋(niu'jian'feng )

.ivy.
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:15 AM
Niu is her surname I'm sure because she was in draw in final Niu - Liu like( Zheng - Sprem)
and they have written Jianfeng like one word!!!

Well, for the Chinese language, you put the last name first, so, unless the Americans (this was WTT, right?) decided to switch it around...

:shrug:

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:16 AM
When they are written as one word that is their First name.

Sun Tiantian

Sun = Surname Tian Tian = First name
Nice to know!!!!

*Karen*
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Confused here.

So it's Na = forename and Li = surname but the chinese like to say it surname first. I always wondered why their names were always written different ways round everytime you read something about the player.

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:18 AM
And how do you pronaunce Xian and how Xia?

vogus
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:19 AM
As much as I respect the chinese culture of the surname first, it just sounds better when you anounce the birthname first like we all are used to.
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I agree with you Jak. First name first, family name second. In the press, they have to adhere to a uniform standard for clarity's sake.

Plus, not that it matters, but "Na Li" just sounds better.

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:20 AM
Well, for the Chinese language, you put the last name first, so, unless the Americans (this was WTT, right?) decided to switch it around...

:shrug:
We are talking about Chinese!!!! It's TT table tennis!!!! :lol: :lol:

njnetswill
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:21 AM
This is pretty pointless. It's like arguing if Sanchez-Vicario or Vicario-Sanchez is better.

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:22 AM
This girl is playing TT for Lux and they call her Ni Xia(Shia)

Natasha250688
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:23 AM
In Croatia you can say Šprem Karolina and Karolina Šprem !!!!!! But we usually say name first!!!!!!!!!

What are you talking about, you always say first name first, nobody would call her Šprem Karolina...

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:24 AM
Tian Tian Sun( def. my fave)


Good taste :bigwave: :lick: :D

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:26 AM
Nowhere near all. More like most.

Generalizing statements are just stupid.


Pengwin is chinese, i think he'd/she'd know? :confused: :tape:

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:28 AM
in china we call she "li na "(李娜) "li "is family name ,same with her father ,her grandfather.
so the same with TTplayer jianfeng niu,her name 牛剑锋(niu'jian'feng )


"Niu" means cow, right? i only remember a tiny bit of written chinese :o plus i speak cantonese, not mandarin lol

njnetswill
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:31 AM
Lol that's what I was thinking when I saw that. Niu does mean cow though :p

"niu" can also mean sprain like an ankle sprain. :p

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:31 AM
What are you talking about, you always say first name first, nobody would call her Šprem Karolina...
Mi smo u razredu imali tri Ane , tri Jelene , tri Ivana i tri Ivana i uvik bi profesori govrili npr. Dokic Jelena , Jankovic Jelena... Jedan banalan primjer , ali ima ih još!!!!!

hartnett
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:32 AM
"Niu" means cow, right? i only remember a tiny bit of written chinese :o plus i speak cantonese, not mandarin lol
yes, you're right !in China "niu" means cow ,and "ma "means horse,and so on!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:33 AM
So most of Chi' are called Cow BlueFlower or Hen Birdpig!!!!!!! It's interesting!!!!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:36 AM
So while we talkin about China what's the biggest city!!!!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:38 AM
So what would mean Tian Tian has it any meaning???

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:38 AM
lol Beijing is a massive Urban Sprawl, when I was there about 3 years ago they were building a 4th ring road, like 20 km away from the city centre lol im sure i might have the figures wrong, but you get the idea its massive

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:39 AM
So what would mean Tian Tian has it any meaning???
Tian in this case means "sweet", which Sun surely is :D :lick: :D :) :angel: :hearts: :kiss:

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:40 AM
Shanghai :)

It's probably the tallest too :scared:
I tought so , but i read somewhere that the biggest city is ChonKing or something !!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:41 AM
Sweet Sweet Sun !!!! I like it!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Municipality???? And HongKong is actually Xianggang( Don't kill me if I spelled wrong)

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:45 AM
Municipality???? And HongKong is actually Xianggang( Don't kill me if I spelled wrong)


yep, thats the mandarin way of pronouncing it, and that means "Fragrant Port". in cantonese, its pronounced "heung gong"
Aww i miss Hong Kong :sad:

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:48 AM
yep, thats the mandarin way of pronouncing it, and that means "Fragrant Port". in cantonese, its pronounced "heung gong"
Aww i miss Hong Kong :sad:
How many other??? I know most of Chinese speak mandarian!!!! Don't tell me billion!!!

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:49 AM
They're soooooooo nice in Hong Kong, I went into a restaurant once and dropped my chopsticks like 5 times and each time they picked them up for me and gave me new ones :p

haha yeh, they are nice people. I'm quite scared of the people in ShenZhen just over the border, the people there seem very obnoxious and very shifty and dodgy, something i can't put my finger on... My sister got her purse stolen there :o i shouldn't generalise though, just bad luck i suppose. :shrug:

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:49 AM
Shanghai ("On The Sea") people have a mini-dialect, Shanghai-nese lol

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:54 AM
My favorite Chinese town is Lu Da because luda means crazy on croatian!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:56 AM
My favorite Chinese town is Lu Da because luda means crazy on croaTian!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

CrossCourt~Rally
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:58 AM
:confused: :lol:

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:58 AM
Shenzhen is the richest city in China but it does have crime problems :sad:

yeh, and lots of fake designer copies haha my sister loved it there apart from being mugged :tape:

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:59 AM
Hoangho means yellow river is it??? What means Yangze????

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:07 AM
I know things with Tibet and Taiwan but what's with NW China !!!! Near Tarim!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:14 AM
Is it Macao still Port. or is Chinese again!???

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:16 AM
That's a contravertial subject. The Tarim area is China-controlled and China-policed but they are only 40% Han people. CCP have built rail links and stuff but they don't really want the interference with their religion etc.

In an ideal world Hong Kong and Taiwan would be part of China and XinJiang independant (for cultural and religion resons).
Where is that????

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:20 AM
From the marches for democracy in Hong Kong the past 3 years (2003, '04, '05), I don't think for Hong Kong people it would be "ideal" to be included under the broad umbrella of China... Everything is still so different, Hong Kong so much more advanced in several areas, different laws, different heritage.

I visited Taipei this summer, and that seemed more like Hong Kong circa 1980's than the average city in China today, which still feels more modern and dare i say it "free".

Eventually I think both Hong Kong and Taiwan will be part of China, but I think because their interests are so different, these regions should still have their own Assemblies to rule in the interests of these regions. Just my opinion, not trying to stir up controversy!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:20 AM
This was good lession about China!!!!!! I can't wit OG 2008 and I'm know China would win most medals!!!!! They were close in Athens!!!!!

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:23 AM
By China I didn't mean Chinese Communist Party controlled, of course noone wants that. When the CCP are done reforming China (necessary becuase a democracy would be much harder to get things done) I really hope CHina will be a decent democracy with a good legal system which HK and Taiwan will want to be a part of.


well said :bigwave:

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:23 AM
Xinjiang would never be free not while red are in goverment!!!! It's too huge !!!!

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:24 AM
im off to bed now, wow we strayed off topic! haha g'night :D

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Xinjiang would never be free not while red are in goverment!!!! It's too huge !!!!


Xinjiang, worlds largest producer of tomato ketchup lol, also has loads of mineral reserves and oil, coal and gas, I'm sure China would not like to lose it... Right, i'm really going now, night :wavey:

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:26 AM
The best formula for China is semi-communist not democracy!!!! Something like Shanghai!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:27 AM
im off to bed now, wow we strayed off topic! haha g'night :D
We always do!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:30 AM
Goodnight!!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:33 AM
Do chinese have blue and green eyes????

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:37 AM
I'm not going :bigcry:
I have few more q!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:38 AM
And is it true that most of plastic operations are eye shape operations????

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:43 AM
They wanna look more western!!!!! But I like east more!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:47 AM
Yao Ming!!!!

TF Chipmunk
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:48 AM
:lol: So far, the incorrect usage (that is, if we're going with Pengwin's explanation) of her name is winning the poll :bolt:

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:49 AM
You can find more people above 1.90 in China than in US , but also you can find more people under 1,50 in China than in Us!!!!

RenaSlam.
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:50 AM
Na Li for sure.

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:51 AM
In Cro you are small for the woman if you under 1.60 and tall if you above 1.80 for man
1.75-1.90!!!!

TF Chipmunk
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:54 AM
Yeah, well Na Li is the correct way of asking directions :scared:

If you said Li Na zai Na Li? it means 'Where is Li Na? :p '
That's mandarin right? I can speak Cantonese :D

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:55 AM
I'm 178

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:00 AM
F!!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:04 AM
Lucky!!!! They said I'm too short too play volleyball!!!! And that I live in China I'll made it!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:07 AM
Awwww :p

I have a feeling Chinese people will get taller though because of better food (food makes you grow right? :scratch: )
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: !!!!!
Good one!!! What was your name before Pengwin????

kammgretel
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:08 AM
From the marches for democracy in Hong Kong the past 3 years (2003, '04, '05), I don't think for Hong Kong people it would be "ideal" to be included under the broad umbrella of China... Everything is still so different, Hong Kong so much more advanced in several areas, different laws, different heritage.

I visited Taipei this summer, and that seemed more like Hong Kong circa 1980's than the average city in China today, which still feels more modern and dare i say it "free".

Eventually I think both Hong Kong and Taiwan will be part of China, but I think because their interests are so different, these regions should still have their own Assemblies to rule in the interests of these regions. Just my opinion, not trying to stir up controversy!

We are discussing about the name, and we are going far out the theme, but if no exist the islands TAIWAN & HK, the world of China is all RED (Communism), and I think nobody of Taiwan & HK want it, they prefer live in a world FREE.

And the Li is the surname, Na is the name. :D

hanxu
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:08 AM
Lucky!!!! They said I'm too short too play volleyball!!!! And that I live in China I'll made it!!!!


I am 1.83m and when I was in China I was too short to play volleyball, but when I come to the UK, I was average one of the tallest in the team...

But I guess u r female then that's diff

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:11 AM
Yes!!!! In Cro M team 1.95 is too short!!!! Only if you jump high you can be a bit smaller!!! In Cro F team the samller player was 1.87!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:14 AM
1.87 is a digger !!!!!

vincent227
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:18 AM
"Li" is her family name, "Na" is her first name!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:18 AM
Yes that discussion ended 20 minutes ago :wavey:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I played for school and trained !!!!We(sch) almost made it to state level but we lost in regional final !!!!Two years ago!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:19 AM
"Li" is her family name, "Na" is her first name!
Tnx for enlighting us!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:21 AM
I knew it!!!!! I miss those game Guess!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:25 AM
What's so funny!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:27 AM
2.25???? Here i 3.25??? Where are you????

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:30 AM
I can't sleep !!!! I can but I won't!!!! I didn't go to the party it was on the beach ,well it's long story!!!! And I have nothing to do tmw!!!!!

kammgretel
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:33 AM
Oh, I'm watching the ESPN, the ATP, Roddick vs Ferrero. ;)

hanxu
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:33 AM
Yes!!!! In Cro M team 1.95 is too short!!!! Only if you jump high you can be a bit smaller!!! In Cro F team the samller player was 1.87!!!!

Cro f national team, i remember barbara(?), she's really good player....

I can reach middle of the basket ball board, it's about 3.45-3.50 m?

But I only play in london league (div I) nothing national or international, plus British volleyball team sux....

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:37 AM
I didn't see Barbara for a long time Cro girls are bad after russians are gone and other players! Men are playing something but not like Mladost use to played!!!! Cro volleyball now suxxx but english suuxxxx more!!!!!!

roxi
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:43 AM
Ciao !!!! I really need to go sleep!!!!!!!!!!!!

hanxu
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:44 AM
agree, english volleyball sux, anyways, nite nite

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:19 AM
That's mandarin right? I can speak Cantonese :D


you from hong kong? or did ya learn Cantonese as a foreign language? :wavey:

Ceecor
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:23 AM
na li is gnarly man!......



nay how mah...... ;)

silverwhite
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:34 AM
I've never met someone with just one or 4 words in their name... :shrug:

One, no. Four, yes.

silverwhite
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:37 AM
When they immigrated they changed their name around. (e.g. Michael Chang).

If they have western names, they are usually put in front of the surname and chinese name. If Li Na wanted to call herself Serena, her full name would be Serena Li Na.

Clittina
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:48 AM
When they immigrated they changed their name around. (e.g. Michael Chang).

His chinese name is Chang De Pei

Ceecor
Aug 18th, 2005, 10:52 AM
His chinese name is Chang De Pei

Impressive! :bounce:

additional:
Full Name: Michael Te Pei Chang
Mandarin Name: Zhang Te Pei
Cantonese Name: Cheung Tak Pui.

mayeb it loses something in translation lololol

pancake
Aug 18th, 2005, 12:37 PM
Actually,some Chinese names are 4 words.


P.S.I think the volleyball players in Chinese teams are quite tall...You hardly find one of them is under 1.8m

Ellery
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:23 PM
Nice thread :D

Anyways I prefer saying Li Na (instead of Na Li) ;)

alfonsojose
Aug 18th, 2005, 01:37 PM
Vagi Na

andrewC
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Vagi Na

:o :lol:

lovlenad
Aug 18th, 2005, 02:08 PM
李===Li

娜===Na

Experimentee
Aug 18th, 2005, 06:10 PM
My name was Hautbois. I got sick of having a French name which sounded like 'Hot boys' :(

Are you Chinese or French? I always thought u were French bc you had a French name and flag.