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alwayshingis
Jun 25th, 2005, 12:54 AM
I'll upsdate this list every week. I think it's pretty interesting. The leader is the same as the leader at this time last year. Upset is defined as being beaten by anyone ranked lower than you.

Most Times Upset in Main Draw 2005: -through Wimbledon
1. Ai Sugiyama – 14
2. Shinobu Asagoe - 12
3. Anastasia Myskina - 11
3. Karolina Sprem - 11
3. Vera Zvonareva - 11
6. Maria Elena Camerin - 10
6. Nathalie Dechy – 10
6. Amy Frazier - 10
9. Elena Likhovtseva – 9
9. Tamarine Tanasugarn - 9
11. Gisela Dulko - 8
11. Silvia Farina Elia – 8
11. Elena Dementieva -8
11. Patty Schnyder - 8
15. Alina Jidkova - 7
15. Martina Sucha - 7
15. Jelena Jankovic - 7
15. Jelena Kostanic - 7
15. Amelie Mauresmo – 7
15. Dally Randriantefy – 7
15. Tatian Garbin - 7
15. Arantxa Parra Santonja – 7
15. Virginie Razzano - 7
24. Kristina Brandi - 6
24. Iveta Benesova - 6
24. Marlene Weingartner - 6
24. Svetlana Kuznetsova - 6
24. Daniela Hantuchova - 6
24. Nadia Petrova – 6
24. Akiko Morigami – 6
24. Marion Bartoli – 6
24. Anabel Medina Garrigues - 6
33. Maria Vento-Kabchi - 5
33. Meghann Shaughnessy - 5
33. Anna Smashnova - 5
33. Jill Craybas - 5
33. Dinara Safina - 5
33. Flavia Pennetta - 5
33. Fabiola Zuluaga - 5
33. Paola Suarez – 5
33. Emilie Loit - 5
33. Marta Domachowska - 5
33. Klara Koukalova – 5
33. Francesca Schiavone – 5
33. Maria Sharapova - 5
33. Lindsay Davenport – 5
33. Ludmila Cervanova - 5
48. Tatiana Garbin - 4
48. Magdalena Maleeva - 4
48. Maria Sanchez Lorenzo - 4
48. Nuria Llagostera Vives - 4
48. Mashona Washington - 4
48. Barbora Strycova - 4
48. Katarina Srebotnik - 4
48. Venus Williams - 4
48. Maria Irvin - 4
48. Marta Marrero - 4
48. Elena Bovina - 4
48. Alicia Molik - 4
48. Mariana Diaz-Oliva – 4
48. Denisa Chladkova – 4
48. Samantha Stosur - 4
48. Lisa Raymond - 4
64. Mara Santangelo - 3
64. Vera Douchevina - 3
64. Nicole Pratt - 3
64. Yuliana Fedak - 3
64. Li Na - 3
64. Antonella Serra-Zanetti - 3
64. Lubomira Kurhajcova - 3
64. Maria Kirilenko - 3
64. Alyona Bondarenko - 3
64. Evgenia Linetskaya – 3
64. Mary Pierce – 3
64. Abigail Spears – 3
64. Anna-Lena Groenefeld – 3
64. Conchita Martinez - 3
64. Serena Williams - 3
79. Eleni Daniilidou - 2
79. Anca Barna - 2
79. Stephanie Cohen-Aloro - 2
79. Lindsay Lee-Waters - 2
79. Stephanie Foretz - 2
79. Melinda Czink - 2
79. Peng Shuai - 2
79. Tatiana Panova - 2
79. Emmanuelle Gagliardi - 2
79. Ana Ivanovic - 2
79. Camille Pin - 2
79. Kveta Peschke - 2
79. Michaela Pastikova - 2
79. Claudine Schaul - 2
79. Anna Chakvetadze - 2
79. Virginia Ruano Pasqual - 2
79. Yoon Jeong Cho – 2
79. Elena Baltacha - 2
97. Yuka Yoshida - 1
97. Marie-Eve Pelletier - 1
97. Aniko Kapros - 1
97. Petra Mandula - 1
97. Anne Kremer - 1
97. Roberta Vinci - 1
97. Jelena Dokic - 1
97. Li Ting - 1
97. Zheng Jie - 1
97. Evie Dominikovic - 1
97. Tzipora Obziler - 1
97. Laura Pous Tio - 1
97. Paula Garcia - 1
97. Vilmarie Castellvi - 1
97. Bahia Mouhtassine - 1
97. Eva Birnerova - 1
97. Kelly McCain - 1
97. Angela Haynes - 1
97. Sesil Karatantcheva - 1
97. Galina Voskoboeva - 1
97. Sania Mirza - 1
97. Severine Beltrame - 1
97. Michaella Krajicek - 1
97. Shikha Uberoi - 1
97. Meilen Tu - 1
97. Shahar Peer - 1
97. Catalina Castano - 1
97. Nicole Vaidisova - 1
97. Lilia Osterloh – 1
97. Tatiana Perebiynis – 1
97. Justine Henin-Hardenne – 1
97. Zuzana Ondraskova – 1
97. Tatiana Golovin – 1
97. Laura Granville – 1

Chunchun
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:13 AM
wait.... how do u define "UPSET in the main draw"? :confused:

ezekiel
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:18 AM
Yeah, how do you do that? :confused:
I guess being beaten by a lower seed is an upset but that is somewhat flawed strategy.

alwayshingis
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:23 AM
Upset means being beaten by anyone with a rank lower than you.

Bitter Blue Bong
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:32 AM
41. Venus Williams - 4
41. Maria Sharapova - 4
41. Lindsay Davenport - 4

That's surprising.

Martian KC
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:38 AM
That's really not fair for Lindsay then.:p

jfk
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:41 AM
Sugiyama, Sprem, Myskina, and Zvonareva = Slumping in 2005

I'm surprised to see Asagoe up there though....probably because she's terrible on clay.

Albireo
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:47 AM
There should be some weight attached to upsets of lower-ranked players-- anytime the #1 player loses, it's technically an upset, whereas a player ranked on the outskirts of the Top 100 has a larger range of "acceptable" losses (as many as 99).

Knizzle
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:47 AM
That's surprising.

Not really when you consider that Venus was ranked alot lower than them.

alwayshingis
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:48 AM
There should be some weight attached to upsets of lower-ranked players-- anytime the #1 player loses, it's technically an upset, whereas a player ranked on the outskirts of the Top 100 has a larger range of "acceptable" losses (as many as 99).

Ideally yes, but I am not willing to put in the work to devise this system.

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 25th, 2005, 01:57 AM
That's surprising.

Not really. Lindsay is number one so obviously all her loses are to players ranked lower than her. The same for Sharapova excluding her one lost to Lindsay. Venus hasn't beaten anyone ranked higher than her excluding Serena and Myskina in 18 months. Her loses to people ranked outside of the top 10 is not typical for someone of her stature. Lindsay has lost to Serena, Sharapova, Clijsters twice. I'm guessing he hasn't counted Lindsay's default to Justine as a lost.

Albireo
Jun 25th, 2005, 02:16 AM
Ideally yes, but I am not willing to put in the work to devise this system.

Not suggesting you should. :) Perhaps a grain of salt, then, for the top players.

Leo_DFP
Jun 25th, 2005, 04:50 AM
Myskina and Zvonareva :tape:

Leo_DFP
Jun 25th, 2005, 04:51 AM
Not really. Lindsay is number one so obviously all her loses are to players ranked lower than her. The same for Sharapova excluding her one lost to Lindsay. Venus hasn't beaten anyone ranked higher than her excluding Serena and Myskina in 18 months. Her loses to people ranked outside of the top 10 is not typical for someone of her stature. Lindsay has lost to Serena, Sharapova, Clijsters twice. I'm guessing he hasn't counted Lindsay's default to Justine as a lost.

Actually she only lost to Clijsters once but also Pierce once. Technically, the Henin-Hardenne match should count, too. That'd be 5 "upsets" for Davenport, then.

AjdeNate!
Jun 25th, 2005, 04:55 AM
k=lina :help:

faboozadoo15
Jun 25th, 2005, 05:39 AM
people are so nit picky... someone went through the trouble to do all this, and really there's a lot to be taken from it. a lot of the players who are ranked somewhat highly and have almost no losses to players below them, you can clearly see that they are playing well or better than their rank. ie, ivanovic. and you can really see who's slumping-- like amy frazier.

ceiling_fan
Jun 25th, 2005, 05:47 AM
There should be some weight attached to upsets of lower-ranked players-- anytime the #1 player loses, it's technically an upset, whereas a player ranked on the outskirts of the Top 100 has a larger range of "acceptable" losses (as many as 99).

i guess that's the burden that comes with being no.1 ...

having 4 'upsets' labelled next to your name :lol:

alwayshingis
Jun 27th, 2005, 05:09 AM
Actually she only lost to Clijsters once but also Pierce once. Technically, the Henin-Hardenne match should count, too. That'd be 5 "upsets" for Davenport, then.

Lindsay pulled out of the Henin-Hardenne match. It was 1-0 Justine in the third. So no, 4 is correct.

deja_entendu
Jun 27th, 2005, 05:43 AM
OMG Gisela how terrible.

switz
Jun 27th, 2005, 06:00 AM
Patty lost to Henin on clay twice which means it's only really 5.

Lady
Jun 27th, 2005, 07:28 AM
Lindsay pulled out of the Henin-Hardenne match. It was 1-0 Justine in the third. So no, 4 is correct.

But she still played and lost, so usually it counts.

Anyway, every time Lindsay loses it's an upset, so for her it really makes no sense. ;)

Great job with statistics.

arn
Jun 27th, 2005, 08:03 AM
So Kim is still at 0 and Justine at 1 :D

Julia1968
Jun 27th, 2005, 08:27 AM
I'll upsdate this list every week. I think it's pretty interesting. The leader is the same as the leader at this time last year. Upset is defined as being beaten by anyone ranked lower than you.

Most Times Upset in Main Draw 2005: -through Eastbourne
1. Ai Sugiyama - 13
2. Anastasia Myskina - 11
2. Shinobu Asagoe - 11
4. Karolina Sprem - 10
4. Vera Zvonareva - 10
4. Maria Elena Camerin - 10
4. Nathalie Dechy - 10
8. Elena Likhovtseva - 9
8. Amy Frazier - 9
10. Gisela Dulko - 8
10. Tamarine Tanasugarn - 8
10. Silvia Farina Elia - 8
13. Alina Jidkova - 7
13. Martina Sucha - 7
13. Jelena Jankovic - 7
13. Jelena Kostanic - 7
13. Elena Dementieva - 7
13. Patty Schnyder - 7
13. Amelie Mauresmo - 7
20. Kristina Brandi - 6
20. Iveta Benesova - 6
20. Dally Randriantefy - 6
20. Marlene Weingartner - 6
20. Tatian Garbin - 6
20. Arantxa Parra Santonja - 6
20. Svetlana Kuznetsova - 6
20. Virginie Razzano - 6
20. Daniela Hantuchova - 6
20. Nadia Petrova - 6
30. Maria Vento-Kabchi - 5
30. Akiko Morigami - 5
30. Marion Bartoli - 5
30. Meghann Shaughnessy - 5
30. Anna Smashnova - 5
30. Jill Craybas - 5
30. Dinara Safina - 5
30. Anabel Medina Garrigues - 5
30. Flavia Pennetta - 5
30. Fabiola Zuluaga - 5
30. Paola Suarez - 5
41. Tatiana Garbin - 4
41. Magdalena Maleeva - 4
41. Maria Sanchez Lorenzo - 4
41. Nuria Llagostera Vives - 4
41. Emilie Loit - 4
41. Marta Domachowska - 4
41. Klara Koukalova - 4
41. Mashona Washington - 4
41. Barbora Strycova - 4
41. Katarina Srebotnik - 4
41. Francesca Schiavone - 4
41. Venus Williams - 4
41. Maria Sharapova - 4
41. Lindsay Davenport - 4
41. Maria Irvin - 4
41. Marta Marrero - 4
41. Elena Bovina - 4
41. Alicia Molik - 4
41. Mariana Diaz-Oliva - 4
41. Ludmila Cervanova - 4
61. Mara Santangelo - 3
61. Vera Douchevina - 3
61. Nicole Pratt - 3
61. Yuliana Fedak - 3
61. Li Na - 3
61. Antonella Serra-Zanetti - 3
61. Lubomira Kurhajcova - 3
61. Maria Kirilenko - 3
61. Alyona Bondarenko - 3
61. Denisa Chladkova - 3
61. Evgenia Linetskaya - 3
61. Samantha Stosur - 3
61. Lisa Raymond - 3
74. Eleni Daniilidou - 2
74. Anca Barna - 2
74. Stephanie Cohen-Aloro - 2
74. Lindsay Lee-Waters - 2
74. Stephanie Foretz - 2
74. Mary Pierce - 2
74. Melinda Czink - 2
74. Peng Shuai - 2
74. Tatiana Panova - 2
74. Emmanuelle Gagliardi - 2
74. Abigail Spears - 2
74. Ana Ivanovic - 2
74. Camille Pin - 2
74. Kveta Peschke - 2
74. Michaela Pastikova - 2
74. Claudine Schaul - 2
74. Anna-Lena Groenefeld - 2
74. Anna Chakvetadze - 2
74. Conchita Martinez - 2
74. Serena Williams - 2
74. Virginia Ruano Pasqual - 2
74. Yoon Jeong Cho - 2
96. Yuka Yoshida - 1
96. Marie-Eve Pelletier - 1
96. Aniko Kapros - 1
96. Petra Mandula - 1
96. Anne Kremer - 1
96. Roberta Vinci - 1
96. Jelena Dokic - 1
96. Li Ting - 1
96. Zheng Jie - 1
96. Evie Dominikovic - 1
96. Tzipora Obziler - 1
96. Laura Pous Tio - 1
96. Paula Garcia - 1
96. Vilmarie Castellvi - 1
96. Bahia Mouhtassine - 1
96. Eva Birnerova - 1
96. Kelly McCain - 1
96. Angela Haynes - 1
96. Sesil Karatantcheva - 1
96. Galina Voskoboeva - 1
96. Sania Mirza - 1
96. Severine Beltrame - 1
96. Michaella Krajicek - 1
96. Shikha Uberoi - 1
96. Meilen Tu - 1
96. Shahar Peer - 1
96. Catalina Castano - 1
96. Nicole Vaidisova - 1
96. Elena Baltacha - 1

Thanks for the hard work.

alwayshingis
Jun 27th, 2005, 10:34 PM
But she still played and lost, so usually it counts.

Anyway, every time Lindsay loses it's an upset, so for her it really makes no sense. ;)

Great job with statistics.

Yeah, but it is hard to make that call. Like does someone retiring at 1-0 really count as a match? So I just made all w/o and ret. not count.

Davenselesport
Jun 28th, 2005, 02:08 AM
Hm I thought Bovina was having a worse year than just being upset twice?

Hantuchova, Kirilenko, Golovin, Jankovic- not bad players to lose to either. She's definitely underrated.

alwayshingis
Jul 10th, 2005, 10:28 PM
Updated After Wimbledon.

kabuki
Jul 10th, 2005, 10:49 PM
God that is the slump-o-rama/inflated ranking list from hell.

alwayshingis
Jul 11th, 2005, 12:29 AM
Sad for Japan. Their top two players top the list.

But then Morigami and Nakamura showed us a lot this weekend in Fed Cup.