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harloo
May 5th, 2005, 04:27 PM
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743264606/104-4710665-2940721

Book review:

Every night there is a white girl crying herself to sleep somewhere in America, listening to Ludacris and wishing she could be part of that gold-rimmed, Cristal-soaked hip-hop dream. Hope has arrived in the wise counsel given in Hold My Gold: A White Girl's Guide to the Hip-Hop World. From "Da Basix: Vocab, Grammar, and Translation" to "How to Be a Video Ho or "Just look Like One," authors McCall and Rizzo deliver a comprehensive education in hip-hop history, language, accessories, social etiquette, and more. Loaded with spot-on satire and hilarious tongue-in-cheek advice, Hold My Gold is required reading for bling-deficient white girls looking to conquer their hip-hop illiteracy.


:smash: :haha:Someone needs to shoot Simon and Schuster for publishing this ignorant book.

Dava
May 5th, 2005, 04:41 PM
Urm dont you see the irony behind it all...I think its intentionally ironic...if it isnt then theres soemthing seriously wrong with the world :lol:

Wigglytuff
May 5th, 2005, 04:48 PM
oh my fucking god!!!

lol, i need to buy this book for the white girl i'm datin'

SelesFan70
May 5th, 2005, 04:59 PM
From the book...

Seed: Child (often conceived out

of wedlock). Example: "Hold my seed, Kasey. I'm going to the organic market."

:tape:

Bankhead Bounce
May 5th, 2005, 05:09 PM
Amber will wigger out until the police come and she lak totally lak remembers lak who she lak is. :tape:

lizchris
May 5th, 2005, 05:29 PM
These two bitches were on Hot 97 in NYC last Friday morning and sounded as dumb as their book. Any person who would spend money (hard earned or not) on this peice of garbage should be chcked to see their IQ is 72.

Cariaoke
May 5th, 2005, 05:30 PM
OMG, this shit is stupid as hell! :haha: :haha:

Wigglytuff
May 5th, 2005, 06:24 PM
These two bitches were on Hot 97 in NYC last Friday morning and sounded as dumb as their book. Any person who would spend money (hard earned or not) on this peice of garbage should be chcked to see their IQ is 72.

1-it's satire
2-my IQ is 148, i am going to be working on my Mensa paperwork this summer :p
3-who cares if the authors are stupid, the books is truly good satire:

5-0: Law enforcement officials. Example: "Yo, Jenny! 5-0! Let's go say hi! :haha: :haha:"

Front: The act of pretending to be someone or something you are not; disingenuousness. Example: "Muffy, don't even front like you don't like Aaron Carter. I saw his fourth CD, Another Earthquake, in your Volvo."

G-Unit: Popular rap artist 50 Cent's close-knit group of friends, consisting of Tony Yayo (formerly incarcerated), Lloyd Banks, Young Buck, Game and others. Known for their large muscles and interest in semiautomatic weapons. Example: "G-Unit is the most innovative musical trio since Peter, Paul, and Mary."

Iced-out: Diamond-encrusted and/or adorned. Example: "Look at the iced-out tennis bracelet Dad got Grandma!"

3 When a rapper is angry, he says: "I'll pop a _ in his ass!"

A. Bubble.

B. Poop.

C. Cat.

D. Cap.

4-the b-day girl i am getting it for graduated from Harvard...in African American studies top of her class, thank you much!

5-its clear some of you have no idea what satire is so here is some basic help:
"Satire
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Satire is a literary technique of writing or art which principally ridicules its subject (individuals, organizations, states) often as an intended means of provoking or preventing change. In Celtic societies, it was thought a bard's satire could have physical effects, similar to a curse. A satirist is one who satirizes.

Satire is not exclusive to any viewpoint. Parody is a form of humor that imitates another work of art in an exaggerated fashion for comic effect, usually deriding the subject of the parody in the process. Although the techniques of satire and parody often overlap, they are not synonymous. Satires need not be humorous - indeed, they are often tragic - while parodies are almost inevitably humorous. Parodies are imitative by definition, while satires need not be. Humorous satires often base the humor on the juxtaposition between the satire and reality. The main intent of satire is political, social, or moral and not comic. The humor of such a satire tends to be subtle, using irony and deadpan humor liberally."

one of the best works of satire and my personal fav:


A MODEST PROPOSAL
FOR PREVENTING THE CHILDREN OF POOR PEOPLE IN IRELAND FROM BEING A BURDEN TO THEIR PARENTS OR COUNTRY, AND FOR MAKING THEM BENEFICIAL TO THE PUBLIC
By Jonathan Swift, 1729
It is a melancholy object to those who walk through this great town or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads, and cabin doors, crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers, instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants: who as they grow up either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native country to fight for the Pretender in Spain, or sell themselves to the Barbadoes.

I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of children in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the kingdom a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these children sound, useful members of the commonwealth, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation.

But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed beggars; it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them as those who demand our charity in the streets.

As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of other projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in the computation. It is true, a child just dropped from its dam may be supported by her milk for a solar year, with little other nourishment; at most not above the value of 2s., which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner as instead of being a charge upon their parents or the parish, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall on the contrary contribute to the feeding, and partly to the clothing, of many thousands.

There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions, and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us! sacrificing the poor innocent babes I doubt more to avoid the expense than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast.

The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couples who are able to maintain their own children, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom; but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders. I again subtract fifty thousand for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remains one hundred and twenty thousand children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, how this number shall be reared and provided for, which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture; we neither build houses (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing, till they arrive at six years old, except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier, during which time, they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers, as I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Cavan, who protested to me that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the kingdom so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art.

I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old is no salable commodity; and even when they come to this age they will not yield above three pounds, or three pounds and half-a-crown at most on the exchange; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or kingdom, the charge of nutriment and rags having been at least four times that value.

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.

I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.

I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.

I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, increaseth to 28 pounds.

I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children.

Infant's flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent French physician, that fish being a prolific diet, there are more children born in Roman Catholic countries about nine months after Lent than at any other season; therefore, reckoning a year after Lent, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of popish infants is at least three to one in this kingdom: and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of papists among us.

I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have eight shillings net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child.

Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flay the carcass; the skin of which artificially dressed will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen.

As to our city of Dublin, shambles may be appointed for this purpose in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs.

A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service; and these to be disposed of by their parents, if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our schoolboys by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable; and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission be a loss to the public, because they soon would become breeders themselves; and besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice (although indeed very unjustly), as a little bordering upon cruelty; which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, however so well intended.

But in order to justify my friend, he confessed that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Psalmanazar, a native of the island Formosa, who came from thence to London above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality as a prime dainty; and that in his time the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the emperor, was sold to his imperial majesty's prime minister of state, and other great mandarins of the court, in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at playhouse and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for, the kingdom would not be the worse.

Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed, and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken to ease the nation of so grievous an encumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known that they are every day dying and rotting by cold and famine, and filth and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young laborers, they are now in as hopeful a condition; they cannot get work, and consequently pine away for want of nourishment, to a degree that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labor, they have not strength to perform it; and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come.

I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance.

For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of papists, with whom we are yearly overrun, being the principal breeders of the nation as well as our most dangerous enemies; and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the kingdom to the Pretender, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good protestants, who have chosen rather to leave their country than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an episcopal curate.

Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to distress and help to pay their landlord's rent, their corn and cattle being already seized, and money a thing unknown.

Thirdly, Whereas the maintenance of an hundred thousand children, from two years old and upward, cannot be computed at less than ten shillings a-piece per annum, the nation's stock will be thereby increased fifty thousand pounds per annum, beside the profit of a new dish introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the kingdom who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among ourselves, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture.

Fourthly, The constant breeders, beside the gain of eight shillings sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year.

Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to taverns; where the vintners will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection, and consequently have their houses frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating: and a skilful cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please.

Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards or enforced by laws and penalties. It would increase the care and tenderness of mothers toward their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the public, to their annual profit instead of expense. We should see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives during the time of their pregnancy as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, their sows when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage.

Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barreled beef, the propagation of swine's flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well-grown, fat, yearling child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a lord mayor's feast or any other public entertainment. But this and many others I omit, being studious of brevity.
After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find food and raiment for an hundred thousand useless mouths and backs. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in human figure throughout this kingdom, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions of pounds sterling, adding those who are beggars by profession to the bulk of farmers, cottagers, and laborers, with their wives and children who are beggars in effect: I desire those politicians who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the parents of these mortals, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, at a year old in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of landlords, the impossibility of paying rent without money or trade, the want of common sustenance, with neither house nor clothes to cover them from the inclemencies of the weather, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever.

I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing.

lizchris i am disappointed in you, i always thought you had more sense then to judge people based on what they read or watch.

you dont think its good satire, thats great, and there is nothing wrong with that. but that doesnt mean you can insult people because they do know what satire is.

now if you will excuse me i have to run to my local b&n to get this girl her copy of this book. i'm annoyed that her b-day is tomorrow so i have no choice but to pay retail. and if there is one thing i hate it's paying retail.

decemberlove
May 5th, 2005, 06:52 PM
funny, but it makes me sad cos i don't think i even know what hip hop is anymore.

Bankhead Bounce
May 5th, 2005, 06:55 PM
@Jigg Obviously you didnít see the 2 cornballs who wrote the book on MTV News. Satire my ass. They aint got no street cred! Come correct like Eminem or donít come at all.

Cariaoke
May 5th, 2005, 06:57 PM
funny, but it makes me sad cos i don't think i even know what hip hop is anymore.
:sad:

PaulieM
May 5th, 2005, 07:34 PM
omg this shit is too funny, it reminds me of that site blackpeopleloveus.com or something, made by these white people about them and their black friends, it was so ridiculous. :haha:

SelesFan70
May 5th, 2005, 08:15 PM
omg this shit is too funny, it reminds me of that site blackpeopleloveus.com or something, made by these white people about them and their black friends, it was so ridiculous. :haha:


www.blackpeopleloveus.com :haha:

(A priceless website. You will either love it or hate it)

lizchris
May 5th, 2005, 08:21 PM
it ain't that dumb of an idea, seeing as how there is a market for it:tape:


Where is this book on the NYT best seller's list. That is the best indicator of if they have a market or not for this so-called book.

lizchris
May 5th, 2005, 08:23 PM
1-it's satire
2-my IQ is 148, i am going to be working on my Mensa paperwork this summer :p
3-who cares if the authors are stupid, the books is truly good satire:


4-the b-day girl i am getting it for graduated from Harvard...in African American studies top of her class, thank you much!

5-its clear some of you have no idea what satire is so here is some basic help:
"Satire
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Satire is a literary technique of writing or art which principally ridicules its subject (individuals, organizations, states) often as an intended means of provoking or preventing change. In Celtic societies, it was thought a bard's satire could have physical effects, similar to a curse. A satirist is one who satirizes.

Satire is not exclusive to any viewpoint. Parody is a form of humor that imitates another work of art in an exaggerated fashion for comic effect, usually deriding the subject of the parody in the process. Although the techniques of satire and parody often overlap, they are not synonymous. Satires need not be humorous - indeed, they are often tragic - while parodies are almost inevitably humorous. Parodies are imitative by definition, while satires need not be. Humorous satires often base the humor on the juxtaposition between the satire and reality. The main intent of satire is political, social, or moral and not comic. The humor of such a satire tends to be subtle, using irony and deadpan humor liberally."

one of the best works of satire and my personal fav:



lizchris i am disappointed in you, i always thought you had more sense then to judge people based on what they read or watch.

you dont think its good satire, thats great, and there is nothing wrong with that. but that doesnt mean you can insult people because they do know what satire is.

now if you will excuse me i have to run to my local b&n to get this girl her copy of this book. i'm annoyed that her b-day is tomorrow so i have no choice but to pay retail. and if there is one thing i hate it's paying retail.


IMO, this so-called book isn't entertaining.

SJW
May 5th, 2005, 08:49 PM
how to be a video ho?

do people honestly forget that black girls never used to have to get down to their underwear to sell records. :confused: i doubt thats anything new to white girls.

harloo
May 5th, 2005, 08:57 PM
www.blackpeopleloveus.com (http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/) :haha:

(A priceless website. You will either love it or hate it)

This is so wrong on many levels. I just hate it!!:mad: :o :fiery:












































BUT ITS FUNNY AS HELL!!:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

lizchris
May 5th, 2005, 09:05 PM
also, there was a day, when they hardly were any black girls in videos, unless they were 2 shades lighter than Halle Berry...

Liz- do you have a sense of humour or irony:confused: - I was being facetious- in that there are a whole lot of white, surburban kids/girls, looking at videos/hip-hop and acting like it...BUT, let me say that I understand why you don't find humour in the fact that 2 white girls could come up with material for this book:sad:


I do have a sense of humor. That is why I am still a fan of the NY Yankees.

griffin
May 5th, 2005, 09:18 PM
I do have a sense of humor. That is why I am still a fan of the NY Yankees.

:haha:

decemberlove
May 5th, 2005, 09:19 PM
:sad:

it's true, thou. hip hop right now is so far from its roots. the culture is absolutely disgusting, and i see no signs of improvement.

Cariaoke
May 5th, 2005, 09:28 PM
it's true, thou. hip hop right now is so far from its roots. the culture is absolutely disgusting, and i see no signs of improvement.
I feel you and I'm still sad.

Dana Marcy
May 5th, 2005, 09:42 PM
it's true, thou. hip hop right now is so far from its roots. the culture is absolutely disgusting, and i see no signs of improvement.

:bigclap:

It wouldn't be so bad if there was an alternative popular black culture but there isn't. Just bling bling, thugs, ho's, deadbeat dads and baby mamas. :sad:

CC
May 5th, 2005, 10:45 PM
Babies :drool:

harloo
May 5th, 2005, 10:50 PM
it's true, thou. hip hop right now is so far from its roots. the culture is absolutely disgusting, and i see no signs of improvement.

This is because you are bombarded with daily images of how commericalism has tarnished the art form. Pop culture has embraced gangsta music and now it's a mainstream that unstoppable. As long as 50 cent sells 2 mill his first week out, you won't hear about those artists with lyrical skill who speak positivity. Their are so many hip hop artists who are never heard because they refuse to compromise their integrity which I feel radio and certain record companies are responsible for.

The culture is NOT disgusting, it's those who exploit the originators true intention of the art form that's disgusting. I remember songs such as Self Destruction, Fight The Power, and when beef was only about who was the best lyricist. No violence just friendly competition, and I'm afraid those days are gone. However, to simply say the whole culture is disgusting is an exaggeration.

Wigglytuff
May 6th, 2005, 02:58 AM
IMO, this so-called book isn't entertaining.

thats completely fair. i went to B&N and looked at it, for some reason its now as good in print... some things are just ment to be web-only i guess :confused: :confused: :o

decemberlove
May 6th, 2005, 03:24 AM
This is because you are bombarded with daily images of how commericalism has tarnished the art form. Pop culture has embraced gangsta music and now it's a mainstream that unstoppable. As long as 50 cent sells 2 mill his first week out, you won't hear about those artists with lyrical skill who speak positivity. Their are so many hip hop artists who are never heard because they refuse to compromise their integrity which I feel radio and certain record companies are responsible for.

The culture is NOT disgusting, it's those who exploit the originators true intention of the art form that's disgusting. I remember songs such as Self Destruction, Fight The Power, and when beef was only about who was the best lyricist. No violence just friendly competition, and I'm afraid those days are gone. However, to simply say the whole culture is disgusting is an exaggeration.


actually, i DO know cos all i listen to is indie hip hop. i don't ever watch mtv or bet or vh1, and i don't listen to hot 97 or power 99 or any type of music radio at all. please don't make assumptions about me when you don't know me. thanks.

the songs you remember are GONE from the mainstream, but there was a time when that's all hip hop stood for. it was a movement... a revolution for people without voices.

is it that anymore? no. it has all moved underground. and underground culture has always been about the minority. it's hard to change things when no one is listening.

so thats why i said hip hop is so far from its roots. it's so far that the people who actually have something to say that provokes others to think, can't get record deals. they have to scrape at the bottom cos studio execs don't care about their opinions simply cos white surburbia doesn't, which means there is no market for it. apparently blacks don't give a shit, either. they are eating it up just like the rest of america is. and THAT is what i find disgusting. this is not what hip hop was originally about.

harloo
May 6th, 2005, 04:24 AM
apparently blacks don't give a shit, either. they are eating it up just like the rest of america is. and THAT is what i find disgusting. this is not what hip hop was originally about.

Interesting that you know what BLACKS don't give a shit about. Assuming you have inside knowledge on what the black population cares about I guess I will take your word for it.:tape: :lol:

Dawn Marie
May 6th, 2005, 04:35 AM
I like the oldschool hip hop and I barely watch rap videos anymore.

Give me Eric B and Rakim anyday. Public Enemy .. real hip hop. Grandmaster flash. Their are some good quality artist out here though, you just have to weed out the crap to see them.:)

decemberlove
May 6th, 2005, 04:35 AM
Interesting that you know what BLACKS don't give a shit about. Assuming you have inside knowledge on what the black population cares about I guess I will take your word for it.:tape: :lol:

it's an observation. just like i don't have "inside knowledge" on what the white population cares about, or the blacks, or the latinos, or the asians cos i'm my own person. it's all observations.

don't try to make this into some racial crap, cos you have nothing better to say to my post. it's fucking tired.

Infiniti2001
May 6th, 2005, 05:10 AM
I'm the last person to chime in since all I listen to is music from the 70's, 80's and Hindi music . Anyway, as bad as this book may sound I think the writers had the right idea , considering white kids buy the majority of these CDS. They are the ones making people like 50cents rich :tape:

SJW
May 6th, 2005, 06:18 AM
my teacher said something stupid to me the other day. he said rap music has always been about violence and money. look at NWA. im like dude, rap music wasn't always like that look at Sugarhill Gang. look at Run DMC...they were fun, had lyrical skills AND weren't negative. and he shutup after that.

you have to take hip hop music nowadays for what it is. some artists rap worse than my gran. but its undeniable that some hip hop music is great to dance to, great to drive to, and great to act a fool to. :)

McAuley
May 6th, 2005, 06:37 AM
What if...

Two black girls wrote a similar book "Jump Into The Mosh Pit: A Black Girl's Guide To The Rock & World World"?

SJW
May 6th, 2005, 06:40 AM
What if...

Two black girls wrote a similar book "Jump Into The Mosh Pit: A Black Girl's Guide To The Rock & World World"?

i thought black people invented rock'n'roll :scratch:

McAuley
May 6th, 2005, 06:49 AM
i thought black people invented rock'n'roll :scratch:

Didd they? I'm not a music expert so I don't know. I'll rephrase the question then.

What if...

Two blacks girls wrote a similar satirical book on a form of pop culture largely associated with whites with the intent of giving other teen black girls an "inside look"?

Hot 92 Jamz
May 6th, 2005, 11:21 AM
These two bitches were on Hot 97 in NYC last Friday morning and sounded as dumb as their book. Any person who would spend money (hard earned or not) on this peice of garbage should be chcked to see their IQ is 72.

I heard Amanda and Albertina (the girls who wrote the book) on Ryan Seacrest's show and they're harmless. Lizchris, it's not that serious and besides the laugh is really on them because they have no idea how uncool they are (they kept using the word "crunk" like it was a prerequisite to be knowledgable about hip hop :lol: ). :tape: They're just young girls who are entitled to make a few bucks if they want. As a fan of both old school and today's R&B who happens to be white, I wish I was a good writer because I'd love to write The White Person's Guide To R&B. One of the biggest problems among white people when it comes to R&B is that they think Beyonce and Usher represent all of R&B. :tape:

This book cover is too funny. ;)

http://a1204.g.akamai.net/7/1204/1401/05022814011/images.barnesandnoble.com/images/9110000/9115368.jpg

Wigglytuff
May 6th, 2005, 01:43 PM
i thought black people invented rock'n'roll :scratch:
they did

CC
May 6th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Music evolves just like everything else.

SJW
May 6th, 2005, 10:59 PM
Didd they? I'm not a music expert so I don't know. I'll rephrase the question then.

What if...

Two blacks girls wrote a similar satirical book on a form of pop culture largely associated with whites with the intent of giving other teen black girls an "inside look"?

that will be hard. black people are responsible for every type of mainstream music i can think of :)

SJW
May 6th, 2005, 11:00 PM
they did

i know. being awkward :)

Stamp Paid
May 6th, 2005, 11:11 PM
I like Kanye West. :cool:

harloo
May 6th, 2005, 11:17 PM
it's an observation. just like i don't have "inside knowledge" on what the white population cares about, or the blacks, or the latinos, or the asians cos i'm my own person. it's all observations.

don't try to make this into some racial crap, cos you have nothing better to say to my post. it's fucking tired.

Like I said before, your inside knowledge of what the black community cares about is amazing. Thanks for the tips.

BTW, I think you are the tired one.:lol:

harloo
May 6th, 2005, 11:20 PM
my teacher said something stupid to me the other day. he said rap music has always been about violence and money. look at NWA. im like dude, rap music wasn't always like that look at Sugarhill Gang. look at Run DMC...they were fun, had lyrical skills AND weren't negative. and he shutup after that.

you have to take hip hop music nowadays for what it is. some artists rap worse than my gran. but its undeniable that some hip hop music is great to dance to, great to drive to, and great to act a fool to. :)

:wavey: :worship:

harloo
May 6th, 2005, 11:25 PM
I like the oldschool hip hop and I barely watch rap videos anymore.

Give me Eric B and Rakim anyday. Public Enemy .. real hip hop. Grandmaster flash. Their are some good quality artist out here though, you just have to weed out the crap to see them.:)

:clap2: :bigclap: :clap2: :bigclap:

decemberlove
May 6th, 2005, 11:45 PM
Like I said before, your inside knowledge of what the black community cares about is amazing. Thanks for the tips.

BTW, I think you are the tired one.:lol:

the fact that you had nothing else to say to me except some bullshit about race, shows you know you were wrong. thanks. :)

harloo
May 7th, 2005, 12:00 AM
the fact that you had nothing else to say to me except some bullshit about race, shows you know you were wrong. thanks. :)

Believe what you wan't to believe if that makes you feel better.;) :D

McAuley
May 7th, 2005, 06:45 AM
OK, black people created every type of music. Now that we've established that PLEASE answer my queston...

What if...

Two blacks girls wrote a similar satirical book called "Dawson's Tree Hill: The Black Girl's Guide To Enjoying Shows On The WB Network"??

SJW
May 7th, 2005, 07:11 AM
OK, black people created every type of music. Now that we've established that PLEASE answer my queston...

What if...

Two blacks girls wrote a similar satirical book called "Dawson's Tree Hill: The Black Girl's Guide To Enjoying Shows On The WB Network"??

then they should be ashamed cuz those shows are a pile of poo. :)

SJW
May 7th, 2005, 07:12 AM
:wavey: :worship:

:kiss:

kiwifan
May 7th, 2005, 07:40 AM
OK, black people created every type of music. Now that we've established that PLEASE answer my queston...

What if...

Two blacks girls wrote a similar satirical book called "Dawson's Tree Hill: The Black Girl's Guide To Enjoying Shows On The WB Network"??

Actually more spot on would be, "how would you feel if two black girls wrote a similar satirical book called, "Drunken Aussie's: The Black Girl's Guide To Enjoying Slumming with the Spawn of Whores and Convicts"??

You see first you must begin from a point where you have someone in a position to be incredibly condescending towards a whole nationality of people, reducing all Aussies to drunken layabouts who can only get motivated to leave their couch by the promise of a VB at the pub or a little Aussie Rules Footie action...

...now this book could be done with love in these black girls' hearts for Aussie Culture, but I'm sure most Aussies would initially think, who the fuck are these black girls to even comment on Australian culture, funny or not. :p

Now if it happens to be funny and well done (and hopefully more a commentary on black girls going to Australia than a total diss of Australia and Australians), only the most pig headed Australians would continue to be offended.

But at the moment the book is introduced, what are the odds that the Australian community will all rally together and proclaim, "Hey let's give those two black girls the benefit of the doubt and read the book first"? :devil:

I don't have a problem with the book being made, but I also don't have a problem with these girls catching shit if the tone of the book isn't "just right".

After all, its a free country.

Cheers - :cool:

harloo
May 7th, 2005, 02:29 PM
OK, black people created every type of music. Now that we've established that PLEASE answer my queston...

What if...

Two blacks girls wrote a similar satirical book called "Dawson's Tree Hill: The Black Girl's Guide To Enjoying Shows On The WB Network"??

:haha: :haha: Funny!

I'm pretty sure Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be all over it.:tape:

McAuley
May 8th, 2005, 08:31 AM
:haha: :haha: Funny!

I'm pretty sure Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be all over it.:tape:

The book would identify the "Dawson's" characters as:

Jen the ho straight out of the trailer park

Pacey the pimp who's getting his sex on with his teacher

Dawson the corny ass white dude that the show is named after

Joey the skinny white girl with no ass who the corny ass white dude who the show is named after is feeling

;)