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henree
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:00 AM
What will this match be like? Serena has been serving bombs in an almost effortless way. I haven't seen her so loose during her service games in a long time. From the ground I give Serena the edge. It will come down to the serve. If Serena can hold serve without any problems she should win on saturday.

Maria Croft
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:01 AM
Serena will win in 2 sets !!

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:05 AM
Really it depends on how Serena plays. If she's serving and keeping errors low like she did today, Serena will win. Serena really looked great out there today, not just her game...but just that look she had in her eyes. That look like "don't f*ck with me little girl".

Serendy Willick
Jan 21st, 2005, 07:08 AM
Nadia gave my girl a good butt kicking at Amelia Island. Petrova can turn it on big time and shes got a big serve herself. I just hope Serenas serve is on and shes not killing herself with errors. Shes playing great, lets hope its with consistancy.

heartBREAKeRS
Jan 21st, 2005, 08:23 AM
Serena really looked great out there today, not just her game...but just that look she had in her eyes. That look like "don't f*ck with me little girl".
heheheheh... Really respect to you :worship: :worship: :worship: :lol: :lol: :kiss: :worship:

Jamesss
Jan 21st, 2005, 08:51 AM
Nadia is going to have to play better than she has so far.
But as long as she believes she can get over Serena, I have no doubt that she will get the win!

:angel: You can do it Nadia! :angel:

spike83
Jan 21st, 2005, 09:02 AM
Petrova in 2 sets

Almalyk
Jan 21st, 2005, 09:02 AM
I still believe Serena in 2 sets - her serve in particular has been superb. she hasn't really even been pushed, but i'm sure it will be much closer than her first 3 rounds.

VeeReeDavJCap81
Jan 21st, 2005, 09:10 AM
Petrova's only win over Rena was on clay, so we'll see. Plus the temp isn't supposed to be hot, making the court harder and less bouncy. It'll probably go 3 sets if both are out there just kicking.

Doraemon
Jan 21st, 2005, 09:19 AM
If Serena plays as usual, Oilva will stand no chance. that's for sure.

Grohl
Jan 21st, 2005, 09:34 AM
go petrova! hope you win!

crazillo
Jan 21st, 2005, 09:53 AM
Serena in 2.

Jackson.
Jan 21st, 2005, 09:56 AM
Serena seems to be playing great, so Nadia's going to have to play out of her mind to win ;) :sad:

Silliams 63 75

Daniel
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:19 AM
Nadia in 2 ;)

volta
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:26 AM
Rena is raising her lvl everytime she plays i want Rena to demolish Petrova in 2 sets lets say a 6-1 6-2 would be great fo me.

Volcana
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:21 AM
This is a Hall of Fame player vs a player who, at only six months younger than Serena, has never won a singles title.

Sam L
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:38 AM
Serena will win easily.

Kart
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:52 AM
Nadia :hearts: - good luck because you're going to need it :(.

SerenaSlam
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:25 PM
last time the played i believe serena got her revenge and beat her in 2 easy sets, but serena has been serving exremly well, and she has added pace to her stuff. she now leads the pace catergory at the tournie with bomb down at 123, and i believe she hit a couple of them yesturday. in due time venus should catch up with her, but im still trippin over the 128mph fault (which didn't miss by that much) she hit at the YEC last year.

InDemand
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:34 PM
Petrova has a big game, but she lacks that special something that takes a player to the next level. I think this will be a fairly comfortable victory for Serena. 6:4, 6:1 or something along those lines. Hope Nadia proves me wrong and gives Serena a real fight.

casino
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:36 PM
Petrova has a big game, but she lacks that special something that takes a player to the next level. I think this will be a fairly comfortable victory for Serena. 6:4, 6:1 or something along those lines. Hope Nadia proves me wrong and gives Serena a real fight.

I disagree that she lacks that certain something. Not a lot of player can claim to have crushed #1 players like Serena, Monica, Justine in 2 easy sets. She has a lot of potential. When she's on, she's extremely dangerous. Kind of like Mary Pierce.

pigam
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:43 PM
I think serena in 2

Greenout
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:57 PM
Petrova has a big game, but she lacks that special something that takes a player to the next level. I think this will be a fairly comfortable victory for Serena. 6:4, 6:1 or something along those lines. Hope Nadia proves me wrong and gives Serena a real fight.

Petrova does have a big game, what she lacks is confidence.
The serve is very good, she is also one of the few Russians
that can do the transition shots going forward and can finish
at net.


Serena has looked good so far, but her opponents were so
awful. She hasn't faced a player with an outstanding return
game, nor even decent enough to hold their own serve.



Serena should win, Nadia is sort of injured- and didn't
look that great the other night. She dug deep; but that
actually might help her against Serena.

Interesting match up.

barmaid
Jan 21st, 2005, 12:59 PM
Petrova has a big game, but she lacks that special something that takes a player to the next level. I think this will be a fairly comfortable victory for Serena. 6:4, 6:1 or something along those lines. Hope Nadia proves me wrong and gives Serena a real fight.

I think you've assessed the prediction very well, Nadia does have the potential but when it comes to the "big" game can't seem to deliver.:( .however there is always a "first" time...Go Nadia!:bounce:

barmaid:wavey:

Chunchun
Jan 21st, 2005, 01:01 PM
Serena ;)

np :yeah:

foreva lindsay
Jan 21st, 2005, 01:01 PM
Goooooo Nadia!!!

Serendy Willick
Jan 21st, 2005, 03:44 PM
Petrova does have a big game, what she lacks is confidence.
The serve is very good, she is also one of the few Russians
that can do the transition shots going forward and can finish
at net.


Serena has looked good so far, but her opponents were so
awful. She hasn't faced a player with an outstanding return
game, nor even decent enough to hold their own serve.



Serena should win, Nadia is sort of injured- and didn't
look that great the other night. She dug deep; but that
actually might help her against Serena.

Interesting match up.
Really?:confused: I thought Mirza's return was really good, not consistant, but good.

*Jean*
Jan 21st, 2005, 03:46 PM
Nadia has all the keys to win...but won't she be nervous ? humm, i hope no ! but its possible...she has shown great serves against Ferguson & Maleeva, and if she can hold the Serena's serve, she can win ! Let's hope a big match :)

alfajeffster
Jan 21st, 2005, 03:54 PM
One of the things that was interesting to hear (and long overdue) the other night during the Hewitt/Blake match was Patrick McEnroe explaining in detail the differences in bounce and speed between the Rebound Ace hardcourt surface and the DecoTurfII used at the U.S. Open. The Rebound Ace is markedly slower, and the ball bounces higher, giving Petrova the time she needs to get in position to hit those flat shots of hers. The court surface will definitely work in Nadia's favor, because she's not the fastest girl around the baseline. Serena will need to really concentrate on keeping those unforced errors in check, and keep her first service percentage high. If baby girl maintains, she should be able to win without too much trouble. If she starts spraying balls and gives Petrova too many looks at a second serve, it could be an ugly match. It all comes down to execution, especially on this slow surface.

tom2791
Jan 21st, 2005, 04:05 PM
I hope Nadia wins but I think Serena in 3 sets will

vogus
Jan 21st, 2005, 04:26 PM
Lets go Nadya, you cleaned her clock last time, now do it in front of a world audience!

vogus
Jan 21st, 2005, 04:26 PM
Lets go Nadya, you cleaned her clock last time, now do it in front of a world audience!

alexusjonesfan
Jan 21st, 2005, 04:46 PM
They've both been inconsistent as hell over the last year...who even knows which Serena and which Nadia will show up :o

Stamp Paid
Jan 21st, 2005, 05:25 PM
Serena in 2, of course. Serena was playing on 1 knee at Amelia Island when she lost to Petrova, and shoved Nadia aside before Nadia messed up her ankle in Beijing.

Serena in 2 comfortable sets, then on to Momo, who Serena has a lot of confidence against.

lizchris
Jan 21st, 2005, 05:33 PM
Serena should win in two comfortable sets, something like 6-3, 6-3. The last time they played, Serena's knee was hurt. She seems to be fine now, is performing the best in her part of the draw, so Nadia will have to play twice as good as Serena to beat her, which I don't think is going to happen.

améliemomo
Jan 21st, 2005, 05:56 PM
this will be the REAL FIRST TEST for serena, because she faced only inconscistent players. :angel:

KV
Jan 21st, 2005, 05:58 PM
I hope Nadia wins but I think Serena in 3 sets will
Same view.

LostInThe80s
Jan 21st, 2005, 05:59 PM
Nadia will mix it up and give Serena fits. That doesn't mean she'll win but Nadia could pull an upset here and we all know that. :D

LindsayRulez
Jan 21st, 2005, 06:00 PM
This is a Hall of Fame player vs a player who, at only six months younger than Serena, has never won a singles title.
by that logic, Serena (or any other hall of fame player) should never lose to anyone outside the top 4 or so, right? (besides the past champions who have fallen in the rankings: Serena, Venus, Jennifer, Monica, etc.)

LindsayRulez
Jan 21st, 2005, 06:02 PM
I was at the match where Nadia beat Serena, she was serving HUGE - consistently at 115, 118...but Serena was definitely hurt, she was serving like she was against Sharapova at the YEC after she got hurt. So it's hard to say; Nadia did beat a rusty Justine at the US Open, so maybe she can beat a rusty Serena here.

Venus+Serena#1fan
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:11 PM
Nadia's never beaten a HEALTHY Serena, and she most likley won't do it at this tournament either.

Serena has looked sharper, she has her game, foused face on. She is in high + differentials in all her matches, serving very big, attacking the net, moving extermley well.....its the best she's played in a loooong time.

I think Mirza hits alot harder than Petrova, and Serena faired well against her from the ground, so she certainly has the upperhand in this match up. She has bigger weapons off the ground and more shotmaking.

It's Rena's match to win or loose, most likley winning in 2, one easy set, one maybe close.

Volcana
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:28 PM
by that logic, Serena (or any other hall of fame player) should never lose to anyone outside the top 4 or so, right? (besides the past champions who have fallen in the rankings: Serena, Venus, Jennifer, Monica, etc.)If healthy, they shouldn't lose to players the same age who've NEVER won a tournament. LOTS of player outside the top 4 have won tournaments.

Teemu
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:29 PM
Serena has been impressive so far, I'd say she'll win in 2.

Volcana
Jan 21st, 2005, 10:33 PM
One of the things that was interesting to hear (and long overdue) the other night during the Hewitt/Blake match was Patrick McEnroe explaining in detail the differences in bounce and speed between the Rebound Ace hardcourt surface and the DecoTurfII used at the U.S. Open. The Rebound Ace is markedly slower, and the ball bounces higher, giving Petrova the time she needs to get in position to hit those flat shots of hers. The court surface will definitely work in Nadia's favor, because she's not the fastest girl around the baseline.Of course, Petrova's shots ALSO bounce higher, meaning SERENA has an easier time getting in position. And of course, Serena kinda won the tournament that last time she played here. And she's won the French. I have to assume the surface favors Serena. I'd give Petrova more of a chance on a fast surface, because her game depends on hitting winners.

What I WANT to see, is Serena slightly off her game. Off enough than maybe she'll resort to the tactic Jenn used on her at the US Open. Low slices down the middle, and force Petrova to prove she can pick them up.

Bitter Blue Bong
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:10 PM
Serena kinda won the tournament that last time she played here. And she's won the French.

:lol:

I agree -- the surface favors Serena.

vogus
Jan 21st, 2005, 11:49 PM
I was at the match where Nadia beat Serena, she was serving HUGE - consistently at 115, 118...but Serena was definitely hurt, she was serving like she was against Sharapova at the YEC after she got hurt. So it's hard to say; Nadia did beat a rusty Justine at the US Open, so maybe she can beat a rusty Serena here.

Serena was limping around a bit in the second set of that match, but in the first set, especially at the beginning, Serena was moving as well and hitting the ball as hard as i've ever seen her, and Nadya just plain upped the ante and cleaned Serena's clock. I think it was the first time in years that Serena had gotten pushed around on a tennis court like that. It was nothing like when Serena got crushed by Masha at Wimby, where Serena obviously didn't have a good day.

If that Nadya shows up again, she will beat Serena, Davenport, Henin, anybody.

Venus+Serena#1fan
Jan 22nd, 2005, 12:22 AM
I didn't notice anything wierd with SErena's movement at any point in the match, she wasn't limping.

nbaker53
Jan 22nd, 2005, 02:20 PM
Serena in 2.

bandabou
Jan 22nd, 2005, 07:46 PM
Go babygirl....let's make this happen. If you take care of that serve, you' re in a good chance to win this match.

LindsayRocks89
Jan 22nd, 2005, 07:53 PM
when Nadia last beat Serena, serena's knee had flared up and she could hardly move. . . Serena isn't showing many signs of rust in this tournament at all. She is playing the best i think, the best in a long time from her. Serena should win this in straight sets, it will be fun because this will be her first test if you want to consider it that.

Go Serena :bounce:

Bezz
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:05 PM
Serena 7-5 6-3 :cool:

Shonami Slam
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:11 PM
if there is one thing that i have to say against serena is that she does the injuring to herself.
sometimes - she goes for big points even though she doesn't need to - thus tiring herself to death.
if petrova can take one set - the next will be hers too.
game set and match, petrova prevails : 2-6 7-5 6-4

cheo23
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:14 PM
I'd Say SERENA will Definetly win this Match
Something like 6-4 6-3

RVD
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:42 PM
Petrova is strong as hell, and quick. I like her style. Still, Serena has a draw that favored her, in that she's seemed to have worked out many kinks in her service game. And for Serena, that's critical to her all-around game plan, IMO. I haven't seen her play in this tourney yet, but judging from her stats, (all 2-set matches) her serves have been improving each round, as witnessed by her ever increasing Server Points Won stats. Have you guys seen her % 1st Srv Pts Won stats for the last match?!!! It's at 93%!!!!!
If Serena maintains this pace, this match should only go two sets, 4 & 1 at best. I can only see Serena losing if she injures herself. And that ain't gonna happen, cuz she's conditioned herself quite well.
Serena seems to be on a mission again, and it's only a matter of time before she's returned to her best condition ever.
GOOD LUCK TO BOTH LADIES!

SerenaSlam
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:51 PM
One of the things that was interesting to hear (and long overdue) the other night during the Hewitt/Blake match was Patrick McEnroe explaining in detail the differences in bounce and speed between the Rebound Ace hardcourt surface and the DecoTurfII used at the U.S. Open. The Rebound Ace is markedly slower, and the ball bounces higher, giving Petrova the time she needs to get in position to hit those flat shots of hers. The court surface will definitely work in Nadia's favor, because she's not the fastest girl around the baseline. Serena will need to really concentrate on keeping those unforced errors in check, and keep her first service percentage high. If baby girl maintains, she should be able to win without too much trouble. If she starts spraying balls and gives Petrova too many looks at a second serve, it could be an ugly match. It all comes down to execution, especially on this slow surface.
well not sure if the court surface will work in her favor, b/c she didn't do too good here when serena beat her back in 2001 and she had the "time" she needed for her shots back then, although now she is a different player, serena is as well. last time they played, serena was killin her, and she had to retire from the match, about like what happend when serena had to retire from the previous match.

bandabou
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:52 PM
It's just great to see and read that Serena's getting the hunger face back. That's been kinda missing since her return.....but it was getting there....I think the incident at the U.S.open kinda made her kick in. Don't expect too much from her in this tourney, because she must still be recovering from that ab-injury...just play well and see what happens.

SerenaSlam
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:55 PM
Petrova is strong as hell, and quick. I like her style. Still, Serena has a draw that favored her, in that she's seemed to have worked out many kinks in her service game. And for Serena, that's critical to her all-around game plan, IMO. I haven't seen her play in this tourney yet, but judging from her stats, (all 2-set matches) her serves have been improving each round, as witnessed by her ever increasing Server Points Won stats. Have you guys seen her % 1st Srv Pts Won stats for the last match?!!! It's at 93%!!!!!
If Serena maintains this pace, this match should only go two sets, 4 & 1 at best. I can only see Serena losing if she injures herself. And that ain't gonna happen, cuz she's conditioned herself quite well.
Serena seems to be on a mission again, and it's only a matter of time before she's returned to her best condition ever.
GOOD LUCK TO BOTH LADIES!
yeah and all 3 matches together she is winning 88% of the points on her serve. she has only lost i believe 9 pts on her first serve in 3 matches. great stats from serena there. and its so true like they say, wants serena gets to serving like she was back in 2002 (not 2003 particulary) that is what will get her back to the top b/c her game becomes that more aggressive.

clijstersfan20
Jan 22nd, 2005, 08:58 PM
Serena has been impressive so far, I'd say she'll win in 2.

Serena hasnt really faced a tough opponent untill now- she hasnt been tested at all. I think if petrova can keep her emotions in check she can really push serena, but that is a big IF!!! As far as talent goes though Petrova has alot and though Serena does to, i still think she dosent have the confidence she once did

Martian KC
Jan 22nd, 2005, 09:17 PM
Nadia, fight baby!:cool:

bandabou
Jan 22nd, 2005, 09:34 PM
Serena hasnt really faced a tough opponent untill now- she hasnt been tested at all. I think if petrova can keep her emotions in check she can really push serena, but that is a big IF!!! As far as talent goes though Petrova has alot and though Serena does to, i still think she dosent have the confidence she once did

There....it's been said. Nadia is the more talented one of the two, so she's expected to win tomorrow.

Mana
Jan 22nd, 2005, 09:47 PM
If Nadia can win the first set, she will win the second and take the match. But if Serena takes it, the second could be all over very quickly.

Go Nadia, I'll still love you, win of lose!
You have the power!!! (Now use it!)

Volcana
Jan 22nd, 2005, 10:00 PM
Nadia is the more talented one of the twoOh I give in. What exactly is your basis for that statement. Serena serves better, has more variety in her game, runs faster, has a better backhand, and hits angles better.

She's also WAY stronger mentally.

What exactly are Petrova's 'talents' that outweigh all that?

Volcana
Jan 22nd, 2005, 10:01 PM
A form note. Through three matches

N. Petrova 55 winners, 55 UEs
S. Williams 91 winners, 58 UEs

Veegeta
Jan 22nd, 2005, 10:08 PM
You are kidding right Volcana?

bandabou
Jan 22nd, 2005, 10:51 PM
Oh I give in. What exactly is your basis for that statement. Serena serves better, has more variety in her game, runs faster, has a better backhand, and hits angles better.

She's also WAY stronger mentally.

What exactly are Petrova's 'talents' that outweigh all that?
Not my words....clijstersfans.

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Jan 23rd, 2005, 12:37 AM
Preach Volcana! :D

Volcana
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:03 AM
You are kidding right Volcana?There's an entire school of thought that I'm completely insane.

*Jean*
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:04 AM
Already 4*-1 Serena :sad:

RVD
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:13 AM
Wow! 6 - 1 Rena.
This is actually proceeding faster than even I predicted.
Rena is destroying Nadia! :eek:

Sadka
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:14 AM
Go Nadia !!

Mana
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:20 AM
C'mon Nadia!!! FIGHT!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!

Jamesss
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:23 AM
Nadia's fastest serve so far is 192km/h. :eek: Serena's is a piddly 186 km/h

lucashg
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:28 AM
Oh no, Petrova is up a break in the second. Meh, break it back, Serena! I want it in straights ;P

Jamesss
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:33 AM
woo bloody hoo! :woohoo:

Broke, held and now at deuce on Serena's serve :worship:

Becool
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:42 AM
5-3 Nadia second set...

FIGHT SERENA FIGHT

jbone_0307
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:50 AM
Wow, this is one of the worst matches ive seen from both player.

Becool
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:58 AM
Break Her Serena!

RVD
Jan 23rd, 2005, 06:58 AM
Whoa Nelly! I leave for just a little while and we're in a 3rd set?! :eek:
I thought this would be over by now. :confused:
What the heck's going on out there Rena?

Oh I get it. Rena didn't want the Aussie crowd turning on her, so she gave Nadia a set. :lol:

G1Player2
Jan 23rd, 2005, 07:03 AM
Wow, this is one of the worst matches ive seen from both player.
what match are you watching?

*Jean*
Jan 23rd, 2005, 07:14 AM
Poor Nadia...she doesnt move enough and looks so sad on the court ! Be happy my dear ^^ (and a bp missed :()

SerialKiller#69
Jan 23rd, 2005, 07:17 AM
Nadia breaks.:banana: I'm confused. Serena - Nadia. Aaarghh. Break back Serena. Hold Nadia..

Rachel
Jan 23rd, 2005, 07:18 AM
Can anyone confirm this ISN'T being shown by Fox Sports in Australia?! I could go look ... but ... well ;) lol
Ok, I'm going to look! :p ;)

jbone_0307
Jan 23rd, 2005, 07:25 AM
what match are you watching?


The Serena vs. Nadia match. They can barely keep the ball in play. Lets see 66 errors combined from both players, with less winners from each. Horrible horrible match. There are some good shots here and there, but everything is landing in the net or out.