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GoGoMaggie
Jan 10th, 2005, 01:55 PM
Or which player had the least titles before winning her first major?
And which player had the "most" titles before her first GS title?

Chunchun
Jan 10th, 2005, 01:58 PM
:bolt:

Zhao
Jan 10th, 2005, 02:23 PM
i dunno for WTA but Gustavo Kuerten?? :scratch:

Lapin
Jan 10th, 2005, 02:26 PM
I think I can guess where this thread might be heading :p ;) , but it just got me thinking.... Does anyone know how many WTA tour titles Monica won before she won Roland Garros? I think she won Berlin (beating Steffi in the final a couple of weeks before); that was the first time I saw Monica play! Any Monica fans who know the answer?! Thanks! :)

And the most? Maybe Jana Novotna, or Jennifer, or Virginia Wade?! :confused: ;)

geewhiz
Jan 10th, 2005, 02:37 PM
Did Chris O'Neil ever win anything apart from the Aus Open? I don't think Barbara Jordan can have won more than 1 or 2 titles before her slam either.

Most, don't know, maybe Novotna?

Zl@tko
Jan 10th, 2005, 04:20 PM
I think I can guess where this thread might be heading :p ;) , but it just got me thinking.... Does anyone know how many WTA tour titles Monica won before she won Roland Garros? I think she won Berlin (beating Steffi in the final a couple of weeks before); that was the first time I saw Monica play! Any Monica fans who know the answer?! Thanks! :)

And the most? Maybe Jana Novotna, or Jennifer, or Virginia Wade?! :confused: ;)
Monica won 5 or 6 titles before her first Roland Garros.

Caz
Jan 10th, 2005, 06:26 PM
ASV's 3rd singles title was RG in 1989.

chapel
Jan 10th, 2005, 06:38 PM
for the most, i think it's novotna with wimbledon

GoGoMaggie
Jan 10th, 2005, 06:41 PM
for the most, i think it's novotna with wimbledon
Amelie sets her eyes on that record but the funny thing is she will have to win one herself either way!

mboyle
Jan 10th, 2005, 06:46 PM
Chris O'Neil's only singles title was the Australian Open in 1979 (check year, but I think that's it.)

Paneru
Jan 10th, 2005, 06:47 PM
Serena's 1st GS title was her 4th
singles title, 99' USO.

faboozadoo15
Jan 10th, 2005, 07:57 PM
didn't maria just have 2 titles before she won wimbledon?

faboozadoo15
Jan 10th, 2005, 08:05 PM
and how many titles did sveta and myskina have before theirs?

veryborednow
Jan 10th, 2005, 08:40 PM
Sveta had 3 I think ... Helsinki '02, Bali '02, and Eastbourne '04.

Andy T
Jan 10th, 2005, 08:44 PM
Can't be 100% sure of these because the tour didn't exist in the form it does now until after most of the players named began their careers.
Austin - 79US was her 8th
Barker - 76RG was her 9th
Capriati - 01Oz was her 13th
Davenport 98US was her 17th
Evert 74 RG was her 29th
Goolagong 71RG was her 24th at least.
Graf 87RG was her 15th
Henin 03RG was her 10th
Hingis 97Oz was her 4th
Jausovec 77RG was her 3rd - at least.
Barbara Jordan 79Oz was her 3rd at least (won a couple of small US events)
King 66 Wi was her 24th - at least
Kuznetsova 04US was her 4th
Majoli 97RG was her 7th
Mandlikova 80Oz was her 13th
Martinez 94Wi was her 19th
Melville-Reid 77 Oz was her 23rd at least.
Myskina 04RG was her 8th
Navratilova - 78Wi was her 23rd
Novotna - 98 Wi was her 23rd at least.
Chris O'Neil - 78Oz was her 8th title (she won several smaller events in Oz and GB)
Pierce 95OZ was her 6th
Richey 67Oz was her 32nd - at least.
Ruzici 78RG was her 4th - at least.
Sabatini US90 was her 16th
ASV - 89RG was her 3rd
Seles 90RG was her 7th
Sharapova Wi04 was her 4th
Smith-Court - don't know of any title she won before the 60Oz
Turner - 63RG was her 20th - at least.
Wade - 68US was her 18th at least
Serena - 99US was her 4th
Venus -00Wi was her 10th

MisterQ
Jan 10th, 2005, 09:11 PM
Mats Wilander :worship: and Guga Kuerten :bowdown: both won Roland Garros as their first title. But I don't know of any women who did this...

Jakeev
Jan 10th, 2005, 09:14 PM
Can't be 100% sure of these because the tour didn't exist in the form it does now until after most of the players named began their careers.
Austin - 79US was her 8th
Barker - 79RG was her 9th
Capriati - 01Oz was her 13th
Davenport 98US was her 17th
Evert 74 RG was her 29th
Goolagong 71RG was her 24th at least.
Graf 87RG was her 15th
Henin 03RG was her 10th
Hingis 97Oz was her 4th
Jausovec 77RG was her 3rd - at least.
Barbara Jordan 79Oz was her 3rd at least (won a couple of small US events)
King 66 Wi was her 24th - at least
Kuznetsova 04US was her 4th
Majoli 97RG was her 7th
Mandlikova 80Oz was her 13th
Martinez 94Wi was her 19th
Melville-Reid 77 Oz was her 23rd at least.
Myskina 04RG was her 8th
Navratilova - 78Wi was her 23rd
Novotna - 98 Wi was her 23rd at least.
Chris O'Neil - 78Oz was her 8th title (she won several smaller events in Oz and GB)
Pierce 95OZ was her 6th
Richey 67Oz was her 32nd - at least.
Ruzici 78RG was her 4th - at least.
Sabatini US90 was her 16th
ASV - 89RG was her 3rd
Seles 90RG was her 7th
Sharapova Wi04 was her 4th
Smith-Court - don't know of any title she won before the 60Oz
Turner - 63RG was her 20th - at least.
Wade - 68US was her 18th at least
Serena - 99US was her 4th
Venus -00Wi was her 10th
So the records go to Mima Jausovec and Aranxta Sanchez-Vicario who won Grand Slam titles in their third attempt.

However, I don't think Chris O'Neill's seven other titles actually count as official WTA tournament wins. If they don't then she would be the record holder.

MisterQ
Jan 10th, 2005, 09:17 PM
I would be willing to bet that some of the very early Wimbledon winners (1800s, early 1900s) won it as their first tournament... But in the very beginning the concept of a "grand slam" tournament didn't even exist, of course.

Kart
Jan 10th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Where is Rollo when you need him ? :mad:

I am sure there is someone whose only career title was a grand slam win - it may be this Chris O'Neill person.

Rollo
Jan 10th, 2005, 09:33 PM
Hi ya Kart:wavey: Abba tunes running through my head......:rocker:

Great job Andy!:worship: Quite a feat by Margaret Court there. I think one other woman can lay claim to it.

Lena Rice won Wimbledon in 1890 against the smallest field ever-there were only 4 in the draw! It was her first and only title.

As for most titles before a slam-my best guess would be Simone Mathieu. She was an Amelie Mauresmo-like player ranked #4-#6 in the world for most of the 1930's and racked up well over 100 wins before FINALLY winning the French in 1938.

Andy T
Jan 10th, 2005, 10:16 PM
The WTA guide quotes Chris O'Neil's Australian Open win as her only pro title but the problem is that she did win a few other tournaments that weren't on the Virginia Slims or Colgate tours. In those days there were quite a few tournaments that weren't part of the tours but still attracted quite a reasonable field, sometimes even top ten players.

O'Neil's most significant wins pre-Assue Open 1978 were at the Sydney Metropolitan Hardcourts (= claycourts) championships in November 1972 when she beat Dianne Fromholtz, the NSW Hardcourts (= claycourts) in January 1976, where she beat Jan Lehane-O'Neill (4-time finalist in the Aus Championships 1960-3) and the South Australian Championships at Adelaide in December 1976, where she beat Aussie Nerida Gregory. Chris also won tournaments in Norwich (74) and Liverpool (77) England. Most, if not all, of these events would be ITF level, I imagine. Whatever, it was far and away the biggest win of her career. She lost the Queensland final to Sue Barker the year she won the Aussie as well - what a Cinderella story!

Hey Rollo!:wavey: Even if we can't see a prior victory, I can't really believe that the Aussie in 1960 was Mag's first title win; surely she must have won something in or around Sydney before! Maybe we'll come across something in the BFTP results hunt one day.

Lemonskin.
Jan 10th, 2005, 10:21 PM
Masha and Kuzzie both had 3 smaller tournament wins each before their GS win.

Lapin
Jan 10th, 2005, 10:24 PM
Monica won 5 or 6 titles before her first Roland Garros.
Thanks Zl@tko! :D

samsam4087
Jul 6th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Can't be 100% sure of these because the tour didn't exist in the form it does now until after most of the players named began their careers.
Austin - 79US was her 8th
Barker - 76RG was her 9th
Capriati - 01Oz was her 13th
Davenport 98US was her 17th
Evert 74 RG was her 29th
Goolagong 71RG was her 24th at least.
Graf 87RG was her 15th
Henin 03RG was her 10th
Hingis 97Oz was her 4th
Jausovec 77RG was her 3rd - at least.
Barbara Jordan 79Oz was her 3rd at least (won a couple of small US events)
King 66 Wi was her 24th - at least
Kuznetsova 04US was her 4th
Majoli 97RG was her 7th
Mandlikova 80Oz was her 13th
Martinez 94Wi was her 19th
Melville-Reid 77 Oz was her 23rd at least.
Myskina 04RG was her 8th
Navratilova - 78Wi was her 23rd
Novotna - 98 Wi was her 23rd at least.
Chris O'Neil - 78Oz was her 8th title (she won several smaller events in Oz and GB)
Pierce 95OZ was her 6th
Richey 67Oz was her 32nd - at least.
Ruzici 78RG was her 4th - at least.
Sabatini US90 was her 16th
ASV - 89RG was her 3rd
Seles 90RG was her 7th
Sharapova Wi04 was her 4th
Smith-Court - don't know of any title she won before the 60Oz
Turner - 63RG was her 20th - at least.
Wade - 68US was her 18th at least
Serena - 99US was her 4th
Venus -00Wi was her 10th

Thanks for the information.

Caralenko
Jul 6th, 2010, 02:31 PM
Stop bumping ridiculously old and irrelevant threads :smash: Just goodrep the person if you can't hold it in.

tennisbum79
Jul 6th, 2010, 02:37 PM
Capriti can qualify for this.
She came for hell to win GS.

Vanity Bonfire
Jul 6th, 2010, 02:38 PM
*dead* at SamSam's ridiculous bumping. He's amaze:inlove: