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Cam'ron Giles
Jan 7th, 2005, 05:39 PM
GREATEST OF ALL TIMES!!!!

My list:

Biggie

Tupac

Nas

Jay-Z

Rakim

KRS1

LL

Big Daddie Kane

Tribe Called Quest

De La Soul

MC Lite

Mobb Deep

Too $hort

Foxy Brown

Talib Kweli
Em

Wu Tang

Mos Def

SilK
Jan 7th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Talib Kweli & Mos'Def are my favs from that list :D

Dava
Jan 7th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Foxy's first album is a classic but I wouldnt say everything shes done is amazing...Jay-Z and Nas of course.

kiwifan
Jan 7th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Straight Up Rapping Skill (doesn't matter what they're saying they stay on beat and just sound cool):

Big Daddy Kane (if I had to pick one he'd be the true G.O.A.T. :worship::worship::worship: )

Rakim

Milk D of Audio Two

Grand Master Caz

Melle Mel

Dot A Rock & Prince Whipper Whip

Kool G Rapp

Queen Latiffa (sp)

The original Master Gee of the Sugar Hill Gang :yeah:

Best Rhyme Style/Lyics:

Ice T

Ice Cube

Moe Dee

MC Lyte (as a rock)

Snoop Dogg

Big Daddy Kane

Outkast (great hooks, lyrics vary in quality, rap style is weak)

Nas

And Finally Blast Master KRS-1 of Boogie Down Productions. :bowdown:

Sonja
Jan 7th, 2005, 07:25 PM
No Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, UTFO, Fat Boys, or Whodini?

*showing my age* ;)

harloo
Jan 7th, 2005, 07:29 PM
1. Tupac
2. Slick Rick
3. Run DMC
4. Biggie
5. Jay Z
6. Nas
7. Mc Lyte
8. NWA
9. Eminem
10. Snoop
11. Outkast
12. Wu Tang
13.Tribe Called Quest
14.Mos Def
15. KRS 1

harloo
Jan 7th, 2005, 07:30 PM
No Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, UTFO, Fat Boys, or Whodini?

*showing my age* ;)
Damn, I forgot all those except one. add those to the top of my list also.:D

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:06 PM
No Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, UTFO, Fat Boys, or Whodini?

*showing my age* ;)
:worship: :worship: forgot about those...:o

OMG...UTFO :eek:

Yo EMD
[EMD]
Yeah, what's up man?
[Kangol]
There goes that girl they call Roxanne. She's all stuck up
[EMD]
Why you say that?
[Kangol]
Cause she wouldn't give a guy like me no rap
She was walking down the street so I said "Hello
I'm Kangol from UTFO." And she said "So?"
And I said "So?!? Baby don't you know?
I can sing, rap, and dance in just one show
Cause I'm Kangol, Mr. Sophisticata
As far as I'm concerned ain't nobody greater
From beginning to end and, to beginning
I never lose because I'm all about winning
But if I were to lose, I wouldn't be upset
Cause I'm not a gambler, I don't bet
I don't be in no casino, and baby while you knizzow
The izzi is the grizzeat Kizzangizzo."
I thought she'd be impress by my devious rap
I thought I had her caught cause I'm a sinister trap
I thought it'd be a piece of cake but it was nothing like that
I guess that's what I get for thinking, ain't that right, black?
Then crizzi to gizzone and seen number izzone
Crizzin ricking tizza of mizzac mic dizza
With the bang bang, brother I feel bad
But I ain't comitting suicide for no crab
But calling her a crab is just a figure of speech
Cause she's an apple, a pear, a plum, and a peach
I thought I had it in the palm of my hand
But man oh man, if I was grand I'd bang Roxanne
Chorus:
Roxanne, Roxanne, can't you understand?
Roxanne, Roxanne, I wanna be your man
[EMD]
You Kango, I don't think that you're dense
Buy you went about the matter with no experience
You should know, she doesn't need a guy like you
She needs a guy like me, with a high IQ
And she'll take to my rap, cause my rap's the best
The educated rapper MD will never fess
So when I met her, I wasted no time
But stuck up Roxanne paid me no mind
She thought my name was Barry, I told her it was Gary
She said she didn't like it so she chose to call me Barry
She said she'd love to marry, my baby she would carry
And if she had a baby, she'd name the baby Harry
Her mother's name is Baby, which is really quite contrary
Her face is really hairy, and you can say it's scary
So isn't not every, her father's a fairy
His job is secondary, in some military
He throws them to an ?electric camp? that wasn't voluntary
His daughter's name is Sherry, his sons are Tom and Jerry
Jerry had the flu but it was only temporary
Back in January, or was it February?

But everytime I say this rhyme it makes me kinda weary
It's only customary to give this commentary
Some say it's bad, some say it's legendary
You can search all you want, try your local library
You'll never find a rhyme like this in any dictionary
But do you know, after all that
All I received was a pat on the back
That's what you get, it happened to me
Ain't that right Mixmaster I-C-E
Chorus
[Kangol]
You thought you had a rose, you thought you was Cupid
But EMD, your rap was plain stupid
I know you're educated, but when will you learn?
Not all girls want to be involved with bookworms
You gotta be strong in a way she can't resist
So educated rapper, huh, bust this...
Since she's a new girl on the block
I had to let her know that I'm the debonoir Doc
I said "I'd like to speak to you if I can
And if I'm correct your name is Roxanne."
She said "How'd you know my name?" I said "It's getting around.
Right now baby you're the talk of the town
Please let me walk you to the corner, my rap will be brief."
She said "I've seen you before, you look like a thief."
I said "Me? The Doc? A hood, a rock?
Running around the street robbing people on the block?
Nah, that's not my style, that crime I'm not related
As far as I'm concerned I'm too sophisticated."
Then it seemed I got busy cause she cracked a smile
That let me know my rap was worth her while
She said "You call yourself a doctor?" I said "This is true."
She said "Explain to me really what doctors must do."
I said "This is very rare because I don't say this every day
There's a million medical skills a doctor displays
Dermatology is treatment of the skin
Infected and you'll see me and you'll know you're again
There's enthesiology, opthomology
Internal medicine and plastic surgery
Orpedic surgery and pathology
A disease involves a change of the body."
She said "Ooooh, that's very unique."
Gave me her number and kissed me on the cheek
She said she had to go but be back by 8
So to call her at 9 to arrange a date
[EMD]
Did you take her to the beach?
[Kangol]
That's what we planned
But she stood me up, Roxanne, Roxanne
Chorus
[Kangol]
And here's our gameplan
[EMD]
The beat is here, so we will reveal it
[Kangol & EMD]
And if you think it's soft, then Roxanne feel it!
[beat boxing and scratching]

Sally Struthers
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:29 PM
Cam, I'm thinking about branching out into the unexplored world of middle aged white female rap, so you add me to your list when my album comes out ok?

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Biggie (Greatest ever, no1 will be better than him), Jay Z, Big Pun, Nas, LL Cool J, Ludacris, Twista, Busta Rhymes, Lauryn Hill, Foxy Brown, Jean Grae, Shawnna.


I have to admit, The Game's new album- The Documentary is one of the best rap albums I have heard in such a long long time!!!! Probably since The Black Album. The song with Timbaland is just :eek:

cheesestix
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:35 PM
WTF??? No JJ Fadd or Oaktown 3-5-7??? :lol:

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:41 PM
WTF??? No JJ Fadd or Oaktown 3-5-7??? :lol:
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

jamalamalamama...Super sonic...:haha:

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Cam, I'm thinking about branching out into the unexplored world of middle aged white female rap, so you add me to your list when my album comes out ok?
:hearts: :hearts: Without a doubt...:kiss:

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Biggie (Greatest ever, no1 will be better than him), Jay Z, Big Pun, Nas, LL Cool J, Ludacris, Twista, Busta Rhymes, Lauryn Hill, Foxy Brown, Jean Grae, Shawnna.


I have to admit, The Game's new album- The Documentary is one of the best rap albums I have heard in such a long long time!!!! Probably since The Black Album. The song with Timbaland is just :eek:
Much respect to Pun, god rest his soul but...are you for real? GREATEST OF ALL TIME? and Luda? TWISTA? come on...:tape:

darrinbaker00
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:52 PM
Who is the G.O.A.T.'s? Stanley Burrell and Robert Van Winkle, of course. How Cam can even ask such a silly question is beyond me. :hehehe:

cheesestix
Jan 7th, 2005, 08:57 PM
Who is the G.O.A.T.'s? Stanley Burrell and Robert Van Winkle, of course. How Cam can even ask such a silly question is beyond me. :hehehe:

Had to look up Stanley Burrell. You sure are up one these guys' real names, huh?

BTW, you left out MC Snow (of "Informer" fame). :lol: What's his real name?

And what about 3rd Base (or Bass?)? Those guys stunk, IMO.

kiwifan
Jan 7th, 2005, 09:00 PM
No Run DMC, Kurtis Blow, UTFO, Fat Boys, or Whodini?

*showing my age* ;) I think I'm of a certain age too :o and I'd add Whodini to my list ("Freaks Come Out At Night" skill-wise/lyrics is as good as the best rap out there). :yeah:

Back when I was shopping around my scripts, the opening scene of one of them had Roxanne Roxanne featured. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 7th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Kiwi...I'm glad you added Cool G Rapp to you're list...I loved him and DJ Polo...:worship:

cheesestix
Jan 7th, 2005, 09:07 PM
I think I'm of a certain age too :o and I'd add Whodini to my list ("Freaks Come Out At Night" skill-wise/lyrics is as good as the best rap out there). :yeah:

Me too (of that era). I have that tape in my car (the one with "Freaks Come Out At Night"...was it called "Escape"?), although I don't exactly remember how it got there. :lol: I think I like the one with "Friends" and "Fugitive" better though.

Some other notables are:

Newcleus (?) - "Jam On It"

and "White Lines" - don't remember who sang it

Sonja
Jan 7th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Five Minutes of Funk
Freaks Come out at Night
Big Mouth
Escape
Friends

All of those were on Escape! I wore that tape OUT!

darrinbaker00
Jan 7th, 2005, 09:25 PM
Had to look up Stanley Burrell. You sure are up one these guys' real names, huh?

BTW, you left out MC Snow (of "Informer" fame). :lol: What's his real name?

And what about 3rd Base (or Bass?)? Those guys stunk, IMO.
1. Everybody in Oakland either knows Stanley or knows someone who worked for Stanley. The guy had half the city on his payroll, for crying out loud.

2. How could I ever forget a white guy from Toronto with a fake Jamaican accent? I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that he's not still around.

3. Let's all pray that "Marky Mark" Wahlberg's movie career doesn't go south anytime soon.

kiwifan
Jan 7th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Me too (of that era). I have that tape in my car (the one with "Freaks Come Out At Night"...was it called "Escape"?), although I don't exactly remember how it got there. :lol: I think I like the one with "Friends" and "Fugitive" better though.

Some other notables are:

Newcleus (?) - "Jam On It"

and "White Lines" - don't remember who sang it
:lol: I'm a bit of a "hybrid" when it comes to Hip Hop because most of my life I lived in the Suburbs but spent summers "in da hood" or at least "hood-adjacent" :p so if it didn't come out in the summer or cross over, I might have completely missed it. I missed La-Di-Da-Di completely, didn't like Planet Rock (still don't :shrug: ), heck I missed most 80s stuff after '84 until Yo MTV Raps got me back on track.

White Lines was Grand Master Melle Mel (I think he broke up with Flash at that point and took the "Grandmaster" title for himself :devil: )

"Jam On It" was the breakdancing song. My little bro was a big time breaker back in the day. I only did it a few times just to prove I could :o :tape: :o

One great thing about being of "a certain age", is the ability to tell the youngsters that you remember when "Rappers Delight" was the only rap on the radio. We were all sitting on the back of that Washington DC school bus, in 7th grade, fighting over who "was Master Gee" :smash:

Sort of like all the Baby Boomer types who can brag about seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan. :lol: :lol: :tape:

cheesestix
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:03 PM
:lol: I'm a bit of a "hybrid" when it comes to Hip Hop because most of my life I lived in the Suburbs but spent summers "in da hood" or at least "hood-adjacent" :p so if it didn't come out in the summer or cross over, I might have completely missed it. I missed La-Di-Da-Di completely, didn't like Planet Rock (still don't :shrug: ), heck I missed most 80s stuff after '84 until Yo MTV Raps got me back on track.

White Lines was Grand Master Melle Mel (I think he broke up with Flash at that point and took the "Grandmaster" title for himself :devil: )

"Jam On It" was the breakdancing song. My little bro was a big time breaker back in the day. I only did it a few times just to prove I could :o :tape: :o

One great thing about being of "a certain age", is the ability to tell the youngsters that you remember when "Rappers Delight" was the only rap on the radio. We were all sitting on the back of that Washington DC school bus, in 7th grade, fighting over who "was Master Gee" :smash:

Sort of like all the Baby Boomer types who can brag about seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan. :lol: :lol: :tape:

I remember going to the roller-skating rink (~'81 or '82) and hearing "Jam On It" a lot.

So "White Lines" wasn't by Grandmaster Flash?

I also remember liking "Double Dutch Bus", but I don't remember who sang it. I seem to recall the flip-side of the single having "Bad Mama Jama" (?) on it, but I could be mistaken.

Remember that song "White Horse"? And "Egyptian Lover"? :lol:

Sonja
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:07 PM
I missed La-Di-Da-Di completely
OMG - you MUST get therapy immediately! I still know all the words to that one. :lol:

kiwifan
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:19 PM
I remember going to the roller-skating rink (~'81 or '82) and hearing "Jam On It" a lot.

So "White Lines" wasn't by Grandmaster Flash?

I also remember liking "Double Dutch Bus", but I don't remember who sang it. I seem to recall the flip-side of the single having "Bad Mama Jama" (?) on it, but I could be mistaken.

Remember that song "White Horse"? And "Egyptian Lover"? :lol:
I think the "dirty secret" of White Lines is that Melle Mel did it all by himself.

Sylvia Robinson, the woman who should be in the Rock-n-Roll hall of fame for starting Sugar Hill Records (along with a considerable history of her own hit music :cool: ), allegedy broke up the Furious Five since she figured she only needed to pay Melle Mel. :p :tape: So I believe there are no other member of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five on the song "White Lines" in fact Melle Mel was kind of forced to do the song; he didn't like that the Furious Five were replaced with people singing in the background instead.

NOTE: Sugar Hill Records didn't sample other artists, they had a house band the "re-did" the music themselves. So often a Hip Hop act's DJ wouldn't actually appear on the records unless it was to throw in a scratch here and a scratch there, notable exception the track "The adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel"

For this reason Sylvia probably didn't have much incentive to pay any DJ no matter how famous. She also didn't need to pay whole crews when she could just pluck out the best rapper or two and tell his homies to get lost (see the Funky 4 + 1 more). Sugar Hill was where old school rappers went to "get famous", "not get paid" and then "break up". :tape: :tape: :tape:

darrinbaker00
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:22 PM
My favorite rap song of all time is "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. Before then, rap was just another form of dance music. That song made people think.

kiwifan
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:23 PM
OMG - you MUST get therapy immediately! I still know all the words to that one. :lol:
Way to twist the knife. :(

Knowing that you have a problem is the first step on the way to recovery. :mad:

I'll learn those lyrics some day, you'll see. :fiery:

harloo
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:26 PM
My favorite rap song of all time is "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. Before then, rap was just another form of dance music. That song made people think.
I feel you on Hammer, my cousin used to work security. LOL. I think my favorite was Humpty Hump by Digital Underground. That was pretty much a time where rap was light hearted and not so much gangsta.

Hammer was wack though. I'm not gonna hate on him because he had everyone dancing in biker shorts and those saggy ass pants:lol:

kiwifan
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:28 PM
My favorite rap song of all time is "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. Before then, rap was just another form of dance music. That song made people think.
I honestly don't think Hip Hop will ever improve upon "Rappers Delight" as the ultimate party rap and "The Message" as the ultimate Serious Rap.

don't push me cuz I'm close to the edge
I'm trying not to lose my head
Its like a jungle
sometimes it makes me wonder
how I keep from going under

That's the blueprint for it all...

darrinbaker00
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:32 PM
I think the "dirty secret" of White Lines is that Melle Mel did it all by himself.

Sylvia Robinson, the woman who should be in the Rock-n-Roll hall of fame for starting Sugar Hill Records (along with a considerable history of her own hit music :cool: ), allegedy broke up the Furious Five since she figured she only needed to pay Melle Mel. :p :tape: So I believe there are no other member of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five on the song "White Lines" in fact Melle Mel was kind of forced to do the song; he didn't like that the Furious Five were replaced with people singing in the background instead.

NOTE: Sugar Hill Records didn't sample other artists, they had a house band the "re-did" the music themselves. So often a Hip Hop act's DJ wouldn't actually appear on the records unless it was to throw in a scratch here and a scratch there, notable exception the track "The adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel"

For this reason Sylvia probably didn't have much incentive to pay any DJ no matter how famous. She also didn't need to pay whole crews when she could just pluck out the best rapper or two and tell his homies to get lost (see the Funky 4 + 1 more). Sugar Hill was where old school rappers went to "get famous", "not get paid" and then "break up". :tape: :tape: :tape:
Sounds like Sylvia went to the Berry Gordy School of Business. Since most of Motown's artists were kids from the Detroit projects, Gordy figured that they knew next to nothing about money, so he collected all the royalties and paid the artists a salary. None of them starved, of course, but none of them got all the money that they should have (except for Diana Ross, and we all know what she did for hers).

darrinbaker00
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:40 PM
I honestly don't think Hip Hop will ever improve upon "Rappers Delight" as the ultimate party rap and "The Message" as the ultimate Serious Rap.

don't push me cuz I'm close to the edge
I'm trying not to lose my head
Its like a jungle
sometimes it makes me wonder
how I keep from going under

That's the blueprint for it all...
I've lost count of the number of artists who cited "The Message" as the song which launched their careers. The song is just as relevant today as it was the day it was released, which doesn't reflect well on the Good Ol' USA.

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 7th, 2005, 11:18 PM
Yo, Nas's life a bitch" is a sentimental fave of mine...that songs moves me...Also, New York State of mind off the same album. When i talk joints that I love and will always love...:
Sugar Hill - AZ
Shook Ones - Mobb Deep (WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Quite Storm - Mobb Deep
One More Chance - Biggie
You're a Customer - EPMD
Strictly Business - EPMD
Umi Sez - Mos Def
The Blast - Talib Kweli and Hi Tek
Plug tuning - De La Soul
Just another Day - Queen Latifa
Who shot Ya - Biggie
Love me or leave me alone - Brand Nubian
They Reminisce over you (TROY) - Pete Rock and CL Smooth
Let me ride - Dr. Dre
Lil ghetto boy - Dr. Dre

Dana Marcy
Jan 7th, 2005, 11:35 PM
I was gonna ask what G.O.A.T.S. means but then I read your first post again. :)

I really shouldn't be answering this thread because I'm not a big rap fan :angel: but I did like Doug E. Fresh and Slick Rick. :cool:

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jan 8th, 2005, 12:11 AM
oooooh oooooh

What about Roxanne Shante??? :devil: :lol:

Seriously though

Salt'n'Pepa, Queen Latifah and MC Lyte

Jericho
Jan 8th, 2005, 12:16 AM
too many to name ;)

Rocketta
Jan 8th, 2005, 05:32 AM
Ok, Public Enemy, The Roots, Big Daddy Kane, MC Lyte, Doug E. Fresh, Slick Rick, Nas, Fabolous and my ultimate favorite was The D.O.C.

I also liked "Lords of the Undergrounds" one and only album. ;) I loved Funky Child. :cool:

Oh and I loved Whodini...:hearts:

Shenay La Soul
Jan 8th, 2005, 01:51 PM
This is an easy one-- and I give honorable props to Melle Mel, Eric B & Rakim and KRS-One-- my hands down choice for G.O.A.T. is none other than Strong Island's finest:

DE LA SOUL! :worship:

You don't even have to go back to the classic "3 Feet High...".

Here is one of their many lyrical gems:

Artist: De La Soul
Album: Stakes Is High
Title: The Bizness

[Featuring Common]
Intro: Common (Craig Mack sample from "Get Down")
And and bass up the track a little bit
Cuz I I'm here I wanna hear that boom bish boom, knowhatI'msayin?
Yeah yeah you know the bizness
Common Sense, soul with the De La
Get all them play-ahs
We the rhyme sayers
Huh, and that's the bizness, hah
Gonna do it like this
Gettin it that
Like the Chicago streets

Verse One: Dove
I speak divine of God theories, no need to be high
Always exhale the facts cause I don't inhale lye/lie
Play the greater man's game, to bounce off my losses
So I can earn the acres (uhh) the houses (yeah) the horses (huh)
Of course it's much greater than your Benx or your Lex
The engine to my comprehension is just too complex
Much too complex, EFX/effects be live like Das
Making moves down South, to avoid the chaos
And never, flaunt the coin cuz dime-getters be gazin
They call me Luther Van, they say my style is so Amazin
I'm fazin those who're supposed to have the last laughter
Cuz even when I'm gone I'm reappearin in the after
I haveta, send respects to real money makers
Do not connect us with those champaign sippin money fakers
Taste the quarter pound with spice from Chi-town
Now what that prove, you're so full you can't even move
Chorus:
Cause I'm the D-to-the-O, the-V-to-the-E
And can't another brother cook these delicacies
Well I'm the P-L-U, the G-to-the-One
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun
And I'm the C-to-the-O, double-M-O-N
I sit and think with a drink about how I'm gonna win
I'm the C-to-the-O, double-M-O-N
I sit and think with a drink...

Verse Two: Common
Do you wanna be a MC? Or do you wanna serve
Do you wanna be dope? Or do you wanna deal it
Fabricated acryllic, I feel it, I'm the style molester
I do a show get Extra P's like the Large Professor
In fact I get more hoes than Tessa, peep game like a
refa-ree in soul control of my
desti-ny, in the best of, three out of five
Whip ANYBODY ass at NBA Live, rappers
take a dive like Greg Lougainis with his bitch-ass
Rather be in Bebe's alley, than at the click with gators
Not a hater of the players, I'm more like a coach, or an owner
I Used To Love H.E.R., but now I bone her (ahuh-hah!)
At one point in rhyme I thought I lost my erection
But then I got it back with the Resurrection, blessings
upon rhymes old man who called him traitor
Big Com Stradamus niggaz styles I predict
Chorus:
I'm the C-to-the-O, double-M-O-N
I sit and think with a drink about how I'm gonna win
And I'm the D-to-the-O, the-V-to-the-E
And can't no other brother cook these delicacies
Well I'm the P-L-U, the-G-to-the-One
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun

Verse Three: Pos
I'm the most from the coast of the East, then flee
Droppin more knowledge than litter, on the New York peeve
It's me, wonder why, in the place to be
Certified, as superior, MC
While others explore to make it hardcore
I make it hard for, wack MC's to even step inside the door
Cause these kids is rhyming, sometiming
And when we get to racing on the mic, they line up to see
the lyrical killing, with stained egos on the ceiling
My rhymes escalates like black death rates
Over music plates, being played as the rule
Kids thinking stepping to the Soul, you're labelled fools
who claims to drop jewels but for now you do the catching
I don't worry on what crew you run, or what section of earth
you reside, you're not even a man
So I don't seem it mandatory taking your pride
But I will, cause my man said Soul for the life
You cried "Keepin it real", yet you should try keepin it right
That's understanding microphone mathematics
Which leaves the currency in temporary world status
And when one shows he posed threat to this one
This one will make that one into none
Simple equation, zero, you shouldn't play hero
If you can't stand Strong like the Island I'm from
Chorus:
Now I'm the P-L-U, the-G-to-the-One
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun
Yeah, and I'm the-C-to-the-O, double-M-O-N
I sit and think with a drink about how I'm gonna win
And I'm the D-to-the-O, the-V-to-the-E
And can't another brother cook these delicacies
See can't another brother cook these delicacies
See can't another brother cook these delicacies

Outro: Common
Ahh that's how, that's how I'm supposed to do my thing huh
Like triple it, alright
That's how we do it, all the way from Strong Island to Chicago
The type of freestyler flow
Yeah, it's fluent, and we don't need to flow no more
Hah

Intro: *this comes before "Wonce Again Long Island" on the LP*
To my man Mos Def yo he nonstop
To my man Enola, yo he's nonstop
And to my kin de Calhoun, yo he's nonstop
Yo that girl MP, yo she's nonstop
And to that crew Camp Lo, yo they nonstop
And to that nigga Pop Life, yo he's nonstop
And to my cousin Fudd Love, you know he nonstop
My brother Lucky and Pert, yo they nonstop
And to my man Joe Buck, you know he nonstop
And my man Extra P, yo he's nonstop
And my man Mike Divine, you know he nonstop
That kid called Baby Paul, yo he's nonstop
And to the Jazzyfatnastees, yo you're nonstop
And my peoples Beatminerz, man they nonstop
And to my man Mr. Bug, you know you're nonstop
And yo, Litro, yo, he's nonstop
And to, my dean The Green, yo you're nonstop
And to my man Prince Paul yo he's nonstop
And to that man Kid Capri yo you nonstop
And A Tribe Called Quest, man they nonstop
And don't forget the Jungle Beez yo they nonstop
Extra Verse: *sampled from "Down Syndrome"*
Let me tell you a little something about Soul (tell em son)
I be a piece of the East coast, so give a toast to
Plug Wonder why back in the day who soaked his words in jigga
So when I ran a phrase in June you didn't catch it til December
I'm a member of them kids from the inner city
Giving you kitties audible treats, you be aching for making
more money than a pagan holiday
Not from the PJ's, yet I still got something to say

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 8th, 2005, 04:43 PM
This is an easy one-- and I give honorable props to Melle Mel, Eric B & Rakim and KRS-One-- my hands down choice for G.O.A.T. is none other than Strong Island's finest:

DE LA SOUL! :worship:

You don't even have to go back to the classic "3 Feet High...".

Here is one of their many lyrical gems:

Artist: De La Soul
Album: Stakes Is High
Title: The Bizness

[Featuring Common]
Intro: Common (Craig Mack sample from "Get Down")
And and bass up the track a little bit
Cuz I I'm here I wanna hear that boom bish boom, knowhatI'msayin?
Yeah yeah you know the bizness
Common Sense, soul with the De La
Get all them play-ahs
We the rhyme sayers
Huh, and that's the bizness, hah
Gonna do it like this
Gettin it that
Like the Chicago streets

Verse One: Dove
I speak divine of God theories, no need to be high
Always exhale the facts cause I don't inhale lye/lie
Play the greater man's game, to bounce off my losses
So I can earn the acres (uhh) the houses (yeah) the horses (huh)
Of course it's much greater than your Benx or your Lex
The engine to my comprehension is just too complex
Much too complex, EFX/effects be live like Das
Making moves down South, to avoid the chaos
And never, flaunt the coin cuz dime-getters be gazin
They call me Luther Van, they say my style is so Amazin
I'm fazin those who're supposed to have the last laughter
Cuz even when I'm gone I'm reappearin in the after
I haveta, send respects to real money makers
Do not connect us with those champaign sippin money fakers
Taste the quarter pound with spice from Chi-town
Now what that prove, you're so full you can't even move
Chorus:
Cause I'm the D-to-the-O, the-V-to-the-E
And can't another brother cook these delicacies
Well I'm the P-L-U, the G-to-the-One
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun
And I'm the C-to-the-O, double-M-O-N
I sit and think with a drink about how I'm gonna win
I'm the C-to-the-O, double-M-O-N
I sit and think with a drink...

Verse Two: Common
Do you wanna be a MC? Or do you wanna serve
Do you wanna be dope? Or do you wanna deal it
Fabricated acryllic, I feel it, I'm the style molester
I do a show get Extra P's like the Large Professor
In fact I get more hoes than Tessa, peep game like a
refa-ree in soul control of my
desti-ny, in the best of, three out of five
Whip ANYBODY ass at NBA Live, rappers
take a dive like Greg Lougainis with his bitch-ass
Rather be in Bebe's alley, than at the click with gators
Not a hater of the players, I'm more like a coach, or an owner
I Used To Love H.E.R., but now I bone her (ahuh-hah!)
At one point in rhyme I thought I lost my erection
But then I got it back with the Resurrection, blessings
upon rhymes old man who called him traitor
Big Com Stradamus niggaz styles I predict
Chorus:
I'm the C-to-the-O, double-M-O-N
I sit and think with a drink about how I'm gonna win
And I'm the D-to-the-O, the-V-to-the-E
And can't no other brother cook these delicacies
Well I'm the P-L-U, the-G-to-the-One
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun

Verse Three: Pos
I'm the most from the coast of the East, then flee
Droppin more knowledge than litter, on the New York peeve
It's me, wonder why, in the place to be
Certified, as superior, MC
While others explore to make it hardcore
I make it hard for, wack MC's to even step inside the door
Cause these kids is rhyming, sometiming
And when we get to racing on the mic, they line up to see
the lyrical killing, with stained egos on the ceiling
My rhymes escalates like black death rates
Over music plates, being played as the rule
Kids thinking stepping to the Soul, you're labelled fools
who claims to drop jewels but for now you do the catching
I don't worry on what crew you run, or what section of earth
you reside, you're not even a man
So I don't seem it mandatory taking your pride
But I will, cause my man said Soul for the life
You cried "Keepin it real", yet you should try keepin it right
That's understanding microphone mathematics
Which leaves the currency in temporary world status
And when one shows he posed threat to this one
This one will make that one into none
Simple equation, zero, you shouldn't play hero
If you can't stand Strong like the Island I'm from
Chorus:
Now I'm the P-L-U, the-G-to-the-One
Walk around the planet earth making money having fun
Yeah, and I'm the-C-to-the-O, double-M-O-N
I sit and think with a drink about how I'm gonna win
And I'm the D-to-the-O, the-V-to-the-E
And can't another brother cook these delicacies
See can't another brother cook these delicacies
See can't another brother cook these delicacies

Outro: Common
Ahh that's how, that's how I'm supposed to do my thing huh
Like triple it, alright
That's how we do it, all the way from Strong Island to Chicago
The type of freestyler flow
Yeah, it's fluent, and we don't need to flow no more
Hah

Intro: *this comes before "Wonce Again Long Island" on the LP*
To my man Mos Def yo he nonstop
To my man Enola, yo he's nonstop
And to my kin de Calhoun, yo he's nonstop
Yo that girl MP, yo she's nonstop
And to that crew Camp Lo, yo they nonstop
And to that nigga Pop Life, yo he's nonstop
And to my cousin Fudd Love, you know he nonstop
My brother Lucky and Pert, yo they nonstop
And to my man Joe Buck, you know he nonstop
And my man Extra P, yo he's nonstop
And my man Mike Divine, you know he nonstop
That kid called Baby Paul, yo he's nonstop
And to the Jazzyfatnastees, yo you're nonstop
And my peoples Beatminerz, man they nonstop
And to my man Mr. Bug, you know you're nonstop
And yo, Litro, yo, he's nonstop
And to, my dean The Green, yo you're nonstop
And to my man Prince Paul yo he's nonstop
And to that man Kid Capri yo you nonstop
And A Tribe Called Quest, man they nonstop
And don't forget the Jungle Beez yo they nonstop
Extra Verse: *sampled from "Down Syndrome"*
Let me tell you a little something about Soul (tell em son)
I be a piece of the East coast, so give a toast to
Plug Wonder why back in the day who soaked his words in jigga
So when I ran a phrase in June you didn't catch it til December
I'm a member of them kids from the inner city
Giving you kitties audible treats, you be aching for making
more money than a pagan holiday
Not from the PJ's, yet I still got something to say
3 Feet High and Rising is one of my all time fave albums ever...Plug tuning is one of the best hip hop recording ever...:worship:

NAT
Jan 8th, 2005, 06:31 PM
It took waaayy too long for somebody to mention Public Enemy. I guess I am dating myself too, but P.E., Ice -T, Kool Moe Dee

Wendy Williams
Jan 8th, 2005, 10:14 PM
GOAT! Cam you are such the Wendynista! Ooooohhh How U Doin. Well so many of them are friends to the show but the rappers who spit bangers the way that I like them are MOP, Mobb Deep, Jadakiss and Big Daddy Kane.

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 9th, 2005, 03:07 AM
GOAT! Cam you are such the Wendynista! Ooooohhh How U Doin. Well so many of them are friends to the show but the rappers who spit bangers the way that I like them are MOP, Mobb Deep, Jadakiss and Big Daddy Kane.Yes Wendy...I am a friend to your show but you did not exactly come up with the term GOAT...:rolleyes: and ooooohhhh YOU doing...:tape:

BTW...MOP..."ANTE UP...Kidnap that bitch...GET HIM GET HIM"...:devil:

kiwifan
Jan 9th, 2005, 07:33 AM
...GEEK!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :tape: :tape: :tape: http://collegehumor.com/img/s/scan000690159.w492.jpg

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 9th, 2005, 07:36 AM
Yo, Kiwi...When I was in college in the ATL...I use to kick it with lil John...back when he was dj'ing at parties and spinning on v103. I remember getting fucked up with him and my partners in the basement of his mom's crib in Cascade Heights (Atlanta's black Beverly Hills)...Man, those were the days...:lol:

kiwifan
Jan 9th, 2005, 07:47 AM
I used to "kick it" in the ATL around Olympic time with...

...uh...uh...a bunch of struggling musicians who probably didn't amount to much of anything. :devil: But they had plenty of ego just the same :tape: Actually I was more of the Buckhead Yuppie Crowd ('92-'97-ish); but I was trying to be "The Idolmaker" (see imdb.com) in my spare time.

PS. For a while I was wondering (from a few of your posts) if you were someone I knew...who played football at Moorehouse...but I know that's not the case.

Back on topic, I saw this picture posted somewhere else and I laughed sooooooooooooooo hard that I'm still in pain, so I had to share it. :angel:

Rocketta
Jan 9th, 2005, 06:33 PM
That high school pic just isn't right! :tape:

Well it answers one question......whether if lil jon cleaned up he would look better? The answer is clearly.........NO! :lol:

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 9th, 2005, 06:39 PM
I used to "kick it" in the ATL around Olympic time with...

...uh...uh...a bunch of struggling musicians who probably didn't amount to much of anything. :devil: But they had plenty of ego just the same :tape: Actually I was more of the Buckhead Yuppie Crowd ('92-'97-ish); but I was trying to be "The Idolmaker" (see imdb.com) in my spare time.

PS. For a while I was wondering (from a few of your posts) if you were someone I knew...who played football at Moorehouse...but I know that's not the case.

Back on topic, I saw this picture posted somewhere else and I laughed sooooooooooooooo hard that I'm still in pain, so I had to share it. :angel:

Kiwi, could you be talking about a dude name Will from Jersey that played F'ball at Morehouse? Did you go to school in the ATL?

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 9th, 2005, 06:39 PM
That high school pic just isn't right! :tape:

Well it answers one question......whether if lil jon cleaned up he would look better? The answer is clearly.........NO! :lol:

You aint right Rocky...:lol:

harloo
Jan 9th, 2005, 06:50 PM
That high school pic just isn't right! :tape:

Well it answers one question......whether if lil jon cleaned up he would look better? The answer is clearly.........NO! :lol:
:haha: :haha: :haha: You are wrong for this one, but I was thinking the same thing.:lol:

Cam'ron Giles
Jan 10th, 2005, 04:46 PM
Bump...Not enough votes...:mad:

A4
Jan 10th, 2005, 05:07 PM
Most people overlook the humor rap brought to our dreary lives. Here's to two mainstay rap-humour moguls:

Vanilla Ice (Yo VIP!! All right STOP! COLLABORATE AND LISTEN!!! .......cooking MCs like a pound of bacon etc etc)

Snow (already mentioned - Informer, a licky boom boom boom down etc etc)

Andy Mac
Jan 10th, 2005, 06:21 PM
hey cam ron.............id say biggie, tupac (living to die is freakin wikked) did anyone mention wu-tang? czu they one of the BEST...........and i wud marry jay-z...even tho i aint gay....hes the best there is.....im down wid jay-z