Knizzle
Jan 7th, 2005, 10:14 AM
Is anyone else watching this?? Venus is doing well so far, playing very carefree and swinging away, still df too much tho.
Venus vs. KuznetsovaKnizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:14 AM Is anyone else watching this?? Venus is doing well so far, playing very carefree and swinging away, still df too much tho. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:18 AM I'm watching the match between Venus and Bepa yesterday. Venus is doing quite well indeed, both dun make too many UE :) VeNuS#1LoVa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:20 AM I'm watching nervously before I have to go to school, should be doing my essay due 4th, but whatever... ;) GO VENUS, KICK ASS! :woohoo: Sportfan Jan 7th, 2005, 10:22 AM What's the score so far? VeNuS#1LoVa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:24 AM Yeah, my scoreboard ain't workin....it was 2-1 Venus, 40-40....idk who's serving though... Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:24 AM livescores board of my computer needs ages to load :( :mad: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:24 AM Yeah, my scoreboard ain't workin....it was 2-1 Venus, 40-40....idk who's serving though... if it's still 2-1, then i remember that's Venus *2-1 *40-40 :scared: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:25 AM updated: Venus 2-2* deuce Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:25 AM OMFG Venus made 5 DF in two service games :rolleyes: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:25 AM update again : *2-3 Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:26 AM who won that last game, my vid cut out for a moment. Probably Sveta huh?? davidmario Jan 7th, 2005, 10:26 AM venus *2-3 Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:26 AM who won that last game, my vid cut out for a moment. Probably Sveta huh?? yeah Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:27 AM Sorry this has turned into a scoring thread admins, but I didn't see anywhere to talk about HK in the tournaments section. Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:27 AM 3/4 Venus to serve VeNuS#1LoVa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:27 AM The video won't work at all....but yeah Dementieva, mine takes forever to load as well.. Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:27 AM Sveta's serves are so powerful :hearts: VeNuS#1LoVa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:28 AM Venus serving 30-0... ;) Shit, now it says 30-40...:rolleyes: VeNuS#1LoVa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:28 AM 3-3! :dance: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:28 AM 3-3* VeNuS#1LoVa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:29 AM What's with those doubls...she didn't hit that many last year, did she? Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:29 AM That was a nice net game Venus ;) Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:30 AM Sveta 4/3 Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:30 AM ace Sveta :) Andy. Jan 7th, 2005, 10:32 AM Good luck Venus win this and get your confidence back up girl. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:32 AM Come on Venus!!! :mad: I don't want any Sveta/LenaD final!! :mad: :bowdown: Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:34 AM did Sveta just break? Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:36 AM Venus breaks :woohoo: *5-4! Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 10:37 AM GO VENUSSSSS:kiss: CLOSE THIS SET!!!!!!!!! :bounce: Andy. Jan 7th, 2005, 10:37 AM Come on Venus take the set Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:37 AM Venus breaks :woohoo: *5-4! I just saw Sveta hold. I thought she won the first set 6-3. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:38 AM Come on Venus! Serve it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bowdown: Venus just saved 2 gp in the last game :D Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 10:38 AM I just saw Sveta hold. I thought she won the first set 6-3. but the scoresboard says Vee *5-4 :confused: Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 10:38 AM Go Venussss!!! Go Venussss!!! Go Venussss!!! :d Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:40 AM Well if Vee wins this game and they sit back down we'll know Venus won the set. Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:40 AM Come on Sveta :kiss: Wojtek Jan 7th, 2005, 10:41 AM Go Venus Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:41 AM Sveta levels 55 Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:42 AM Venus lost that set I think. It was 6-3, probably. Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:43 AM Never mind, maybe this video is way behind. Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:43 AM Sveta up 6-5 :woohoo: Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:44 AM close out the set now Sveta :yeah: Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 10:44 AM GO VENUS:bounce: Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:45 AM Venus already 7 DF-s :o Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:46 AM 2 set points Sveta :D Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:47 AM Sveta 7-5. Good job in that set though Venus. Just pick it up some. Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:47 AM Sveta took 1st set ;) 75 Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:47 AM Sveta wins 1set 7/5 bad BH by Venus Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:50 AM 40-0 :rocker: Sveta Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:51 AM Sveta's 2nd serve down the net :eek: Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:51 AM 75 10 Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 10:52 AM Sveta's 2nd serve down the net :eek::lol: Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:54 AM 1all Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 10:56 AM Keep the break this time Venus. Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 10:56 AM Venus breaks with a BH CC winner Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 10:56 AM Venus up 2-1 in 2nd set :mad: Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 10:56 AM fantastic play from VENUS;) Venus is up a break in the second set! Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 11:00 AM Venus 8 DF :o but still leads 3/1 Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:01 AM Way to consolidate the break Venus, now break again!! Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:02 AM C'mon Sveta :rocker: Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:03 AM Sveta 75 23 :D Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:04 AM GO VENUS! :worship: thelittlestelf Jan 7th, 2005, 11:05 AM Go Vee! Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 11:05 AM Superb BH DTL by Venus :D Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:06 AM What a great rally!! Venus ends it at the net!!~ Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 11:06 AM Wow what a volley :eek: :eek: Venus 40/0 Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:08 AM Venus 4-2. great escape that game Venus. Vamos Feńa Jan 7th, 2005, 11:08 AM Venus held 5/7 4/2 Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:10 AM Nice returns from venus. Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:11 AM :mad: Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:11 AM 5-7 5*-2 GO VENUSSSSSSS:kiss: Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:11 AM Venus breaks again!!! 5-2. Serve it out Venus. Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:13 AM Excellent reflex volleys by Venus!! :eek: Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:13 AM THE QUEEN OF NET PLAY:worship: VENUS!!!!! Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:16 AM THE QUEEN OF NET PLAY:worship: VENUS!!!!! :tape: pav Jan 7th, 2005, 11:18 AM I wish they would hurry up! I can't leave it and want to go to bed, My teddy bear is missing Me! :crying2: Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:18 AM woohoo!!! "everybody dance now..." GO VENUSSSSS :hearts: :kiss: :D KEEP IT UP BABY! Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:19 AM :tape: :devil: She was for at least that one point, lol. Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:19 AM :tape: obviously, it was only a joke;) davidmario Jan 7th, 2005, 11:20 AM Now everything is Venus. It will be a crushing second set like warsaw first roung against zuluaga. RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:20 AM Venus takes the second set 6-2...GO VEE! Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:21 AM Did Sveta leave the court?? Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:21 AM Did Sveta leave the court?? she is back now:D Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:24 AM Kuznetsova leads 7-5 2-6 1-0 ... Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:28 AM Sveta convert a bp into winner and up 2-0 Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:30 AM 3-0 :woohoo: Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:30 AM GO VENUS!!! :bounce: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:30 AM Come on VENUS!!! Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:33 AM 3-1 Sveta to serve Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:33 AM damn Venus :mad: Come on!!! :bigcry: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:35 AM Venus waste a bp deuce :( Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:37 AM 4-1 :yeah: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:37 AM :o *1-4 nearly hopeless RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:37 AM Vee's forehand still looks like shit. Her volleys look pretty good, she's been up at net quite a bit. 4-1 Kuznestova in the 3rd. Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:38 AM FIGHT VENUS:kiss: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:38 AM and damn i need to see the f****** Sveta in the final :( :fiery::ras: Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:38 AM her FH seems fine to me except off the returns, but Sveta has a good serve. She's making about the same # of errors off both sides. Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:39 AM Vee's forehand still looks like shit. Her volleys look pretty good, she's been up at net quite a bit. 4-1 Kuznestova in the 3rd. sorry, but her forehand does not look like shit. She made some pretty good shots. Her main problem is the serve, in my opinion!:) Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:40 AM *40-0 Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:40 AM and damn i need to see the f****** Sveta in the final :( :fiery::ras: :fiery: Sveta totally deserves it RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:40 AM 4-2-Vee holds. RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:41 AM sorry, but her forehand does not look like shit. She made some pretty good shots. Her main problem is the serve, in my opinion!:) She's missed so many returns of the forehand side...and once they get into long rallys and Kuznetsova pummels balls to Vee's forehand, she sprays them everywhere. Stu_Vee Jan 7th, 2005, 11:42 AM Go Venus !!! Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:43 AM :mad: flyingmachine Jan 7th, 2005, 11:44 AM Go Sveta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Knizzle Jan 7th, 2005, 11:44 AM She's missed so many returns of the forehand side...and once they get into long rallys and Kuznetsova pummels balls to Vee's forehand, she sprays them everywhere. That hasn't always happened and you have to credit Sveta, it's called a FORCED error. Stu_Vee Jan 7th, 2005, 11:45 AM Hold your serve now Venus !!! Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:45 AM Venus to serve to level this final set! ;) Ok, she will see who much she has worked on the serve! *pressure time* RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:45 AM Vee breaks- 4-3* back on serve!! Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:45 AM Venus breaks!!! :banana: *3-4 must hold now :bowdown: backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:46 AM Good job, Veeeeee, hold plz.! Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:46 AM *15-0 :) backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:46 AM I think Svetlana might have one of the best forehands in the game. RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:46 AM Alright, I may be wrong here. Sorry. backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:47 AM Yes !!! 4-4, Venus held RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:47 AM Vee holds!!! 4-4 final set!! GO VENUS. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:48 AM YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana: :aparty: now break again!!! :yeah::worship: Stu_Vee Jan 7th, 2005, 11:48 AM Tied at 4 all !! Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:48 AM Sveta broken :sad: backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:48 AM Wow, Venus' forehand looks way better than before. RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:49 AM Nice drop shot by Sveta, venus gets to it, but Sveta volleys it into open court for 15-15. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:49 AM actually i think Venus deserves to win , look at the stats: Ue: Venus-9, Sveta-13 Winners: Venus-18, Sveta-12 40-0 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:49 AM 4-4 flyingmachine Jan 7th, 2005, 11:50 AM Come On Sveta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:51 AM Venus ripped a cross court forhand on the run to make it deuce at 4-4 40-0 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:51 AM wow , so venus is playing good!!! RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:51 AM Thank you guys for proving me wrong. Venus' forehand looks better than last year, that's for sure TartarVicario Jan 7th, 2005, 11:52 AM Fight Sveta! RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:53 AM Great backhand down the line winner to set up BP for Vee! COME ON VENUS backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:53 AM At, 4-4 deuce, Svet leaves a 2nd serve up too high, Venus rips a backhanddtl for a bp RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:54 AM Venus Breaks 5-4 And Serving For The Match!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:54 AM Sveta hits one a little deep after a 4-5 shot rally, break by Venus, Venus to serve at 5-4 Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:54 AM damn :banghead: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:54 AM :woohoo: Come on Venus plzzz take this bp! TartarVicario Jan 7th, 2005, 11:54 AM Come on Sveta! davidmario Jan 7th, 2005, 11:55 AM yes!!!!!!!! THE MOTHERFUCKING YURI-SITE DOES NOT WORK!!!! 40-0 Jan 7th, 2005, 11:55 AM 5-4 veee!!! yyyayayayayayaya! Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:55 AM OMG Venus :woohoo: this is so amazing :worship: :cool: must hold now!!!!!!!!!!! :bowdown: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:56 AM 0-15 long rally won by Kuz Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 11:56 AM VENUS IS SERVING TO GET HER FIRST WIN OVER A TOP-10 PLAYER IN 17 MONTHS ..... GO VENUSSSS!!! IT'S BEEN TOO LONG :bounce: :hearts: :kiss: :D :worship: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:56 AM nice return from Sveta-0-30 Vee :(...come on Vee RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:57 AM 30-30 now. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:58 AM Come on Venus!!! :bowdown: :help: Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 11:58 AM C;mon Sveta RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:58 AM 40-40...Sveta wastes a BP on Vee's 2nd serve. Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 11:58 AM Yay. Another Russian choke job. :crying2: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:59 AM Vee DF :( NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 11:59 AM plzzzz Venus win the deuce :bowdown: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 11:59 AM Match Point Venus!!! Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:00 PM OMG Venus :worship: PLzzz win this mp :worship: Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:00 PM Break Sveta. RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:00 PM long rally won by Kuz...back to Deuce. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:01 PM Venus waste mp??! :eek: :( :help: C"MON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:01 PM darn...Sveta hit an out shot during that rally that wasn't called and Sveta won the point :( GRR RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:02 PM Sveta breaks. 5-5...noooooooooooooo :( Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 12:02 PM 55 :woohoo: Sveta saved mp Blackbeat Jan 7th, 2005, 12:02 PM why it does works for me so good??? fuck... Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:02 PM Udachi Sveta. :) Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:02 PM damn....PLzzzzZZZZ Z Venus :bowdown: :bigcry: Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:03 PM Woohoo. Now hold here Sveta. :hearts: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:03 PM :mad: Venus :fiery: Come on :bowdown: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:05 PM 6-5 Sveta. Damnit. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:05 PM Break again Venus plzzzz :bowdown: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:05 PM damn Venus :sobbing: must hold now!!! :bowdown: Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 12:05 PM Close out the match Sveta :yeah: Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 12:06 PM Believe in you Venus!!! :hearts: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:06 PM I don't want Kuznetsova!! :sobbing: Plzzzzz Venus!! Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:06 PM Finish it off Sveta. :yeah: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:06 PM Forehand winner Vee...15-0 RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM 30-0 Vee RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM 40-0 Vee RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM 40-15 Vee Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:08 PM Sveta. :hysteric: backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 12:08 PM The angle on that 40-15 ace by venus was the best i've ever seen her hit RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:09 PM ARg. Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:09 PM 6-6? TB or not? Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:09 PM Focus Sveta. Win this Breaker. :) RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:10 PM Forehand Return Winner Vee Blackbeat Jan 7th, 2005, 12:10 PM Tb Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:10 PM Venus made 10 DF :lol: :retard: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:10 PM I think its a TB, but i dont know the score...my thing messed up :( Blackbeat Jan 7th, 2005, 12:10 PM whats the score in TB??? Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:10 PM Plzzzzzz Venus :bowdown: You can do it! backhanddtl4 Jan 7th, 2005, 12:10 PM is it 3-3? Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 12:10 PM C'mon Sveta :banana: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:11 PM they just changed ends...anyone kno the score? Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:11 PM Udachi Sveta. Big Forehands. Shoulderpova Jan 7th, 2005, 12:12 PM dunno but Sveta leads RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:12 PM whats the score? Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:12 PM scoresboard says sveta 3-0? :confused: :mad: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:13 PM Venus 5-3 :eek: :banana: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:13 PM VEe 6-3 :banana: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:13 PM the scoreboard says VEnus leads 6-3 in the breaker...is that right? Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:13 PM Ugh, Sveta. :crying2: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:14 PM Lets Go Vee...close It Out! Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:14 PM Vee 5-4 now :confused: :( RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:14 PM 6-5 Venus...arg... Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM Come ON Venus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZZZZZZ Venus 7-6!!!! Blackbeat Jan 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM Venus Won!!! Yeeah My Girl!! Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM Fight Sveta. RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM Venus Won!!!!!!!!!!!! Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM Venus 5-7 6-2 7-6 :banana: davidmario Jan 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM thats how it goes vee. A big win over the usopenchamp04! well done! Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM VENUS SCORES FIRST WIN OVER A TOP-10 PLAYER IN 17 MONTHS!!! :hearts: :kiss: :bounce: ;) :D :kiss::worship: RenaSlam. Jan 7th, 2005, 12:16 PM VEE WINS 7-5 in the breaker! Sharapova's_Boy Jan 7th, 2005, 12:16 PM Ugh, Sveta. :sad: Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:16 PM Venus :banana::drive::bounce::D:aparty::kiss::hearts::in love: I'm so proud of you!! Chunchun Jan 7th, 2005, 12:16 PM VENUS SCORES FIRST WIN OVER A TOP-10 PLAYER IN 17 MONTHS!!! :hearts: :kiss: :bounce: ;) :D :kiss::worship: Oh really?!?! :eek: LOL :haha: 40-0 Jan 7th, 2005, 12:16 PM Omg Omg Omg Venus Won!!! Omg Beat A Top 10 Player!! Omg! Omg! Omg!!!!!! Venus_Serena Jan 7th, 2005, 12:17 PM Oh really?!?! :eek: LOL :haha: the last one was KIm Clijsters at Wimbledon in 2003;) xr6turbo Jan 7th, 2005, 12:18 PM YYEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! OMG!! :dance: :banana: :yippee: :bounce: :hug: :D GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VENUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stu_Vee Jan 7th, 2005, 12:24 PM Venus wins !!! :bounce: TartarVicario Jan 7th, 2005, 07:06 PM Tough luck,Lana :sad: Jeff Jan 7th, 2005, 08:01 PM Vee :dance: :bounce: :D :) | |