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goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:27 PM
It looks like the Fed Cup team is going to be a story in 2005.
Anastasia has said she will not be there if Maria's dad is there.
Maria has said that she wants to play on the team. She didn't say she won't bring her dad.
Anastasia has said that it's up to the captain to decide who is on the team.

the cat
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:42 PM
How come everything comes down to Tarpischev? He can't please everybody.

goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Somebody has to choose the team.

Maria is 17. It's important to have her be a part of the team.
Anastasia has been the Russian #1 for 3 years. She's an important part of the team.

But there are 7 Russians in the top 15. There is no certainty about who will be the best Russian players in 2005.

the cat
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:59 PM
Shamil has a tough job that's for sure. Please Nastya won't be easy. And I would like to see Lena D back on the Russian Fed Cup team in 2005.

goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:59 PM
I understand the idea of having one team, all year.
But with 7 Russians in the top 15, I would like to see Maria, Vera, Nadia, Lena D., and Lena B., all get to play in at least one tie.

It will be a difficult situation this year.
There is no way to please everyone.

Natasc
Dec 30th, 2004, 05:10 PM
I would like to see Lena D back on the team too

goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 05:21 PM
The first tie is in Italy, on clay.
That would be a good spot to bring Lena D. back. She's a French Open finalist.

But there are no easy decisions. You can't keep everyone happy.
There are too many good players. Too much ego is involved.

TheBoiledEgg
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:09 PM
ideally the team would be
Nastya, Lena D, Sveta and Masha.

i dunno if Lena would be picked by Shamil :fiery:..... too much water under bridge.

for 1st tie i'd pick our Schiavone beater....... Lena Bovina :bowdown:

goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:13 PM
This would give a lot of players a chance in 2005.
It seems to be the best solution.
Let Maria play one tie.
Anastasia can play the others.
Svetlana will play a few ties, and alternate Vera, Nadia, Lena B. and D.

katiektc
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Poor Shamil, he has such a difficult job :lol:
The guy cant manage a team when his country has 7 players in the top 15.
Imagine the guy managing a team like Switzerland, or Romania.

goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:24 PM
To me, it's an easy job. Maria plays one tie. Very simple.
As the years go by, maybe Maria will want to lead the team.
But the current Russian #1 deserves to be team leader.
Right now, that is Anastasia.

katiektc
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:28 PM
I would be shocked to see Maria play fed cup 2005.
I would also be shocked to see Lena D picked, but a happy kind of shock.
For clay tie in Italy...if i was Shamil <although better looking i hope> i would pick...ooh i dunno what russians can play good on clay...oh thats rite FO finalists Nastya and Lena D for singles...wasnt that hard!!?!
No doubt Mr. Tarpishev will pick complete randoms then.

goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:30 PM
Maria has said that she wants to play Fed Cup.
The first tie will probably be Anastasia and Svetlana.
I don't know why Lena D. is always left off. She deserves to be there.

katiektc
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:34 PM
Of course she does. Ahead of Masha too, based on 2004 performance. she was ahead of masha in the rankings all 2004 until last tourny.
2005 singles rankings should choose players for Shamil, but he doesnt seem to pay much attention to that.

goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:42 PM
When people discuss Maria, they forget how new she is to the tour.
Most players are slowly moving up the rankings at 17. Learning at each tournament.
Maria won Wimbledon, and everyone expects her to act like a tour veteran.
But most situations that she is in are new to her.

And because she goes after the money, some people resent her.
But she's still learning how to get along with all the different personalities.
She's still learning how a successful, top level player, should act.

I hope Anastasia doesn't hold a grudge against Maria.
Give her a chance to reach 18. Maria is a quick learner.

katiektc
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:45 PM
I know she is new to the tour, and i know she is still learning.
but based on rankings, which is what i said, Dementieva was ahead of her all year until YEC.
I also know Maria is a great player at the minute, but i wouldnt put her on the team.

goldenlox
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:49 PM
I want Lena D. on the team in Italy.
I don't understand what the problem with Tarpischev is.

But I want Maria to be on the team this year. She might be a major part of the Fed Cup team in the future, and it's time for her to see what it's about.

Nichole
Feb 15th, 2005, 05:55 AM
I want the team to be Nastya and Elena D for doubles and Sveta and Maria for singles

saki
Feb 15th, 2005, 08:57 AM
The fairest way is to pick based on rankings and Anastasia will just have to suck it up and play on the same team as Maria or leave the team. I'm sure something could be negotiated whereby Maria's dad only watches Maria's matches - in Fed Cup, it's not as though Anastasia's going to be playing against Maria by definition, nor will they play doubles together.

goldenlox
Feb 15th, 2005, 03:12 PM
The fairest way is to pick based on rankings and Anastasia will just have to suck it up and play on the same team as Maria or leave the team...But the team is never picked that way.
Lena D. should have been there in 2004.
This first tie is on clay.
Anastasia, Lena, Svetlana, Nadia, Vera and Maria all have good enough clay results.

saki
Feb 15th, 2005, 03:14 PM
But the team is never picked that way.
Lena D. should have been there in 2004.
This first tie is on clay.
Anastasia, Lena, Svetlana, Nadia, Vera and Maria all have good enough clay results.

I was under the impression that, until the hassle with Elena D, that was always how the Russian Fed Cup team was picked. It's not ideal, I agree, in that surface plays a big role in who the top four Russians are and doubles ought to play some part in the selection process, but when you've got someone like Anastasia kicking up a fuss about Maria, then it looks to me like the best way to avoid arguments.

Epigone
Feb 15th, 2005, 03:26 PM
Nadia should play doubles in the tie on clay, as she and Meghann won titles at Amelia Island, Berlin, and Rome in 2004

goldenlox
Feb 15th, 2005, 03:27 PM
The best way to do it is to have a player-friendly environment.
Where the Russian girls look forward to being a part of the team.
Having Maria's dad there would work against that.

_LuCaS_
Feb 15th, 2005, 05:21 PM
Poor Shamil, he has such a difficult job :lol:
The guy cant manage a team when his country has 7 players in the top 15.
Imagine the guy managing a team like Switzerland, or Romania.
LOL I don't even think we HAVE a team :) Nice try Kat :kiss:

Nichole
Feb 16th, 2005, 03:55 AM
I think they will meet france in the final again

ys
Mar 16th, 2005, 01:34 AM
Interesting difference in girl's approaches for FC and next tie vs Italy in particular:

Lena D.: I haven't been invited yet. ... I am planning my season as if I am playing.

Sveta K.: I haven't been invited yet. I want to play but I am planning my season as if I am not playing.

Masha S.: Of course, I've received invitation already. But I will decide whether I play or not later depending on my physical condition.

goldenlox
Mar 16th, 2005, 03:40 PM
Maria went to the US-Croatia matches to get a feel for what this is like.
She wants to play.
I wouldn't bring Maria to a Fed Cup tie unless I believed we had to have her there to win.
Because some of the other players don't want to be around her dad.

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 16th, 2005, 06:33 PM
I just wanna see Lena back on team again.
on clay i fancy our chances against anyone really.



:Dwe should apply for Russia 1 and Russia 2 next yr ;)
Russia 3 or Russia 4 would be pretty good too ;)

ys
Mar 16th, 2005, 06:45 PM
I just wanna see Lena back on team again.
on clay i fancy our chances against anyone really.

Do you? I am really .. not.. You base your optimism on our RG results. But I think that our pre-RG results could be more relevant, as it takes a while for all of our girls to adjust to the surface. And all of Nastya, Lena and Masha had hardly won a match on clay before May last year. I still remember that tie against Germany in 2002, where we were useless against nobodies. Italy is much better than Germany. Beating a team of Schiavone/Farina in Italy could be a serious task.



:Dwe should apply for Russia 1 and Russia 2 next yr ;)
Russia 3 or Russia 4 would be pretty good too ;)

That is true.. In fact.. At this point I just want us to defend. That's all...

goldenlox
Mar 16th, 2005, 06:50 PM
Beating a team of Schiavone/Farina in Italy could be a serious task.
It's not supposed to be easy.
But in 2 or 3 years, it might look easy.
Especially if the top teens keep improving.

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 16th, 2005, 07:02 PM
all we need to beat Schiavone is to pick Bovina
she scares the shit out of Schiavone ;) :lol:

goldenlox
Apr 1st, 2005, 04:44 PM
Tarpischev was in Miami, and he told Sharapova she has until April 10th to decide if she's playing in Italy.
Anastasia and Lena D. are willing to play, if asked.

Epigone
Apr 1st, 2005, 05:08 PM
Of course, no mention of Bepa or Nadia as prospects for the tie in Italy :rolleyes:

PaulHopkins
Apr 1st, 2005, 05:48 PM
Of course, no mention of Bepa or Nadia as prospects for the tie in Italy :rolleyes:

I dont see the point in having a makeshift doubles team which is why I agree with you that Nadia *must* be in for the doubles.

_LuCaS_
Apr 1st, 2005, 09:05 PM
The question on Maria Sharapovoj's participation in structure of modular Russia in a match of the Cup of federation with a command of Italy at the end of April can be resolved by the most unexpected image. Father and manager Masha Jury Sharapov has declared, that will agree to its performance in this match if it will appoint the captain of the Russian command.
source:
http://www.rambler.ru/db/sport/msg.html?s=236&mid=5787638
fool or not?
Anyway :haha:

Epigone
Apr 2nd, 2005, 06:17 AM
Tarpischev should ask for a show of hands right now :wavey:

Everyone knew at the end of last year when and where the tie would be played, and the players had the opportunity to base their schedules around the Fed Cup if they wanted to play.

ys
Apr 4th, 2005, 09:21 PM
Masha is out of Fed Cup. Svetlana will not play too. The team is Myskina, Dementieva. One of Safina, Kirilenko, Chakvetadze will also be invited. Tarpishev didn't mention who is #3, Zvonareva or Petrova or Likhovtseva or Bovina or someone else.

PaulHopkins
Apr 4th, 2005, 10:45 PM
Masha is out of Fed Cup.

For what reason is Masha out?

ys
Apr 4th, 2005, 11:36 PM
For what reason is Masha out?

Scheduling. Fed Cup scheduling may adversely affect her Tour results. Decision made by her coaches ( meaning, by Poppy Yura ).

ys
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:19 AM
Two candidates for #3 - Zvonareva and Bovina. Basically it is a choice between doubles teams Myskina-Zvonareva and Bovina-Dementieva.

Stephieva
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:25 AM
Sveta won't play 'cos her schedule is as if she won't play?!
Hopefully Anastasia and Lena can handle all matches they play..

Vera gave it her all when she played for Russia ...
But LenaB highly values FedCup too...
I'm torn between them..:sad:

But methinks Vera will be selected if she's available..
'cos she was chosen even over LenaD, who is a higher ranked player, last yr..
so why isn't she selected this yr if she wants to play..:lol:

Shoulderpova
Apr 5th, 2005, 07:55 AM
:tape:

saab95
Apr 5th, 2005, 10:14 AM
Last news are :
we have Nastya, Lena D.& Lena B. in Italy
and Mashara in KC-2005
http://www.echomsk.ru/
http://www.sport-express.ru/art.shtml?101692

Goatee
Apr 5th, 2005, 10:18 AM
No Nadia :sad:

Stephieva
Apr 5th, 2005, 10:58 AM
Last news are :
we have Nastya, Lena D.& Lena B. in Italy
OMG..happy for LenaB...:banana:
maybe Lenas playing doubles again...:D

now me so curious who's the last one..:confused:

so, no Bepa, Nadia, and Lena L?! :sad:

Wombat
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:15 AM
I would love 2 see Kirilenko and Safina in team

Epigone
Apr 5th, 2005, 11:29 AM
Nadia deserves to play doubles :(

_LuCaS_
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:08 PM
Italy are not worthy of 2 big names playing for Russia. Either Nastya or Lena should be enough. Tarpischev should think as a true Russia captain (not as a chicken) and call Safina or Kirilenko. Instead he creates confusion and tension between the top players.

saab95
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:12 PM
as you can read
реально рассматриваются пять кандидатур - Вера Звонарева (постоянная партнерша Мыскиной в парном разряде), Елена Бовина (которая в последнее время показывает неплохие результаты в дуэте с Дементьевой), победительница февральского турнира в Париже Динара Сафина, а также более молодые Мария Кириленко и Анна Чакветадзе.
so if Bovina's in we have : Vera, Maria K.,Dinara & Anna.
I guess it would be in the last moment (April 10)
But Shamil said so many times about Dinara....

Epigone
Apr 5th, 2005, 01:42 PM
so if Bovina's in we have : Vera, Maria K.,Dinara & Anna.
I guess it would be in the last moment (April 10)
But Shamil said so many times about Dinara....That article mentions Vera, but Shamil didn't mention her yesterday, so I think she will be left out :sad:

Out of Maria K., Dinara, and Anna, I think he would take Dinara. If it was on carpet, then I think Anna would have a better chance, but I think Dinara is the best clay court player of those three.

Epigone
Apr 5th, 2005, 02:30 PM
The team is Ana Myskina, Dinara Safina, Elena Bovina and Elena Dementieva.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4412693.stm

Shamil :shrug:

goldenlox
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:15 PM
This article is titled - Tennis Star Sharapova Refuses to Play for Russia

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/04/05/sharapovarefuse.shtml

the cat
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:51 PM
I'm sure the Italians think they can beat this Russian team in part because none of the Russina's has a good serve. Thus the Italians will atleast be in every match against the Russians.

I'm happy GL is so reserved and calm about Maria Sharapova avoiding playing Fed Cup for Russia. :)

And if Masha doesn't play Fed Cup for Russia before the Kremlin Cup I think she might just come up with a way to avoid playing in Moscow this fall. Maria is concerned about how well she will be received in Russia and choosing not to play for Russia in Fed Cup competition this year won't help her image in Russia. Sharapova should have joined the team for the tie in Italy and played a backup role. But she didn't even want to do that.

goldenlox
Apr 5th, 2005, 03:53 PM
I'm happy GL is so reserved and calm about Maria Sharapova avoiding playing Fed Cup for Russia. :)
I'm not sure what the rules are.
Can Maria take a U.S. citizenship test, and play for the U.S.?
She's been a U.S. resident for 10 years.
I know Seles and Navratilova played for the U.S.

the cat
Apr 5th, 2005, 04:14 PM
I believe Seles and Navratilova played for the United States after they became American citizens. I just feel Yuri should not have much of a say in Masha's career anymore. It's time for Masha to make her own decisions. Maybe she really doesn't want to play for Russia but wants people to think she does.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 5th, 2005, 06:23 PM
Have a guess who plays Schiavone on day 1 :tape: or day 2
Bovina will be one for sure to play the banshee :lol:

another beating of her in her home country will be awesome :rolls:

Safina in team is odd :o :eek:

no Vera either on clay ?
Sveta either

i'd play Bovina on day 1 vs Schiavone and play Nastya/Lena D vs Farina, but this all depends on who is Italian #1 then.

Derek.
Apr 6th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Odd team this year. Hopefully they will be able to win comfortably, but this defintely will be interesting. I'd love to see Makiri on the team, cuz she's played so well this year. :D

smarties
Apr 6th, 2005, 12:38 AM
I'm sure the Italians think they can beat this Russian team in part because none of the Russina's has a good serve.

Bovina and Safina's serve are verry good. Glad to see Bovina making the team; I always feel that she's way underestimated.

ys
Apr 6th, 2005, 01:41 AM
I don't think who plays Schiavo-ne will be a factor. Yes , Elena B. has a serious advantage in h2h.. But guess what.. the only time they played on clay, Elena got demolished. Nastya does not play well against Farina Elia, but she owns Schiavone just as much as Lena B. Meaning, that playing Nastya at #2 is perfect. On the first day Lena will take care of Farina-Elia, while Nastya will take care of Schiavone.

andrewbroad
Apr 6th, 2005, 02:09 AM
Russian captain Shamil Tarpishchev has announced their Fed Cup team - for the first-round tie against Italy this month - as Anastasia Myskina, Elena Dementieva, Elena Bovina and Dinara Safina.

No Maria Sharapova no Vera Zvonareva no athletic programme no discipline no book he just sat in the back seat swearing he'd seek revenge but he jumped into the furnace singing old songs we loved.

Mr. Tarpishchev justified the decision to leave Maria out as follows: "I spoke to her father [at Miami] and we decided not to include her. It is a burden to play all the tournaments in a row."

I can understand Maria not playing because of her schedule, but unless Bepa made herself unavailable for the tie, how can they snub their most faithful servant? :fiery:

"I am a faithful servant," said Myskina, with the merest trace of sullenness in her voice.

"Nastya, we need somebody with brains, somebody whose loyalty has never wavered, and you, unfortunately, fulfil neither requirement."

[J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]


My ideal Russian Fed Cup team would be:
* Maria Sharapova and Vera Zvonareva for the singles rubbers
* Maria Sharapova and Maria Kirilenko for the doubles rubber
* Anastasia Myskina as the orange-girl
* Yuri Sharapov as captain ;)

--
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sizzlingsharapova/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/

ys
Apr 6th, 2005, 03:00 AM
Andrew, can we now safely assume that you are finally done with your Seles/Dokic/Habsudova schizo stage, and that from now on you will be entertaining us mostly about Maria and Vera? :)

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 6th, 2005, 07:42 AM
right
another thing we now know: Farina Elia has decided not to play Fed Cup this yr.

Prizeidiot
Apr 6th, 2005, 09:10 AM
Anyone know why Elena Likhotseva isn't in the team? She'd be ranked higher than Dinara in singles, and would be the specialist doubles player?

the cat
Apr 6th, 2005, 03:13 PM
Good point Prize.

Epigone
Apr 6th, 2005, 03:23 PM
Anyone know why Elena Likhotseva isn't in the team? She'd be ranked higher than Dinara in singles, and would be the specialist doubles player?Nadia Petrova is ranked higher in both singles and doubles, and should really be playing in Italy

:(

PaulHopkins
Apr 6th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Nadia Petrova is ranked higher in both singles and doubles, and should really be playing in Italy

:(

I totally agree with you! Its crazy that Nadia hasn't been selected :mad:

goldenlox
Apr 6th, 2005, 04:44 PM
The 2 Lenas have played well together. They could have brought Vera, to play with Nastya.

the cat
Apr 6th, 2005, 07:34 PM
Good point Epi.

ys
Apr 6th, 2005, 09:05 PM
right
another thing we now know: Farina Elia has decided not to play Fed Cup this yr.

Might not necessarily make our life easier. Pennetta might be a better player at this point.

andrewbroad
Apr 6th, 2005, 11:33 PM
Andrew, can we now safely assume that you are finally done with your Seles/Dokic/Habsudova schizo stage, and that from now on you will be entertaining us mostly about Maria and Vera? :)

Goodness no! When I become a fan of a player, I vow to support her forever! Obviously I don't have so much to say about Karina Habšudová now that she is retired, but I certainly haven't given up on Monica and Jelena.

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
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http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/seles/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/seles/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/dokic/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/dokic/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/habsu/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/habsu/)

Dan23
Apr 7th, 2005, 01:16 AM
Maria has ruled herself out of Fed Cup for the whole of 2005 and will relook at playing before 2006 :)

Derek.
Apr 7th, 2005, 02:13 AM
Nadia should have been on the team to play doubles. :(

Prizeidiot
Apr 7th, 2005, 09:23 AM
Might not necessarily make our life easier. Pennetta might be a better player at this point.
Very true, on clay, Penetta could very well turn out to be a nightmare. She's already won two clay titles this year. And her and Francesca play very good doubles (which I witnessed in Sydney against Ai and Elena D)

goldenlox
Apr 7th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Maria has ruled herself out of Fed Cup for the whole of 2005 and will relook at playing before 2006 :)I'm glad she made that public.
I was expecting it.

goldenlox
Apr 7th, 2005, 08:37 PM
This obviously isn't the strongest team, going to Italy.
If Nastya or Lena D. were to get injured or sick at the last minute, having Sveta there would be good.

But I agree with taking a young player.
I think Zhenya should be at a tie, Kirilenko also.

Obviously, Sharapova doesn't want to be a part of Russian Fed Cup this year.
But there other good young players, who should get a chance to see what being a member of a Fed Cup team is.

Epigone
Apr 8th, 2005, 01:35 AM
If Nastya or Lena D. were to get injured or sick at the last minute, having Sveta there would be good.Sveta's confidence is shot

But I agree with taking a young player.
I think Zhenya should be at a tie, Kirilenko also.Have they shown that they can play on clay?

I don't think this tie is as simple as some people believe. I can see Flavia causing real trouble, so I think that Russia needs a squad that can play on clay.

goldenlox
Apr 8th, 2005, 03:12 PM
Sveta's confidence is shot
Sveta made the AO quarters, the Tokyo semis, and lost a very close match to Lena D. at IW.
She's #3 on the list, on any surface. And she's not far from #1 on the list.

The young players, like Safina, Linetskaya and Kirilenko, should get a chance to see what Fed Cup is all about.

They might be a major part of the team in the upcoming years.

Epigone
Apr 8th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Sveta made the AO quarters, the Tokyo semis, and lost a very close match to Lena D. at IW.
She's #3 on the list, on any surface. And she's not far from #1 on the list.And? Look how many matches she has thrown away...

Besides, Tarpischev said that in an interview earlier in the week.

goldenlox
Apr 8th, 2005, 03:42 PM
Right now, Sveta is the Russian #3 in 2005 points with 517.
Actually, she's the Russian #2, because Sharapova has removed herself from Fed Cup consideration this year.
Zhenya is next among Russians, at 456.

Epigone
Apr 8th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Right now, Sveta is the Russian #3 in 2005 points with 517.Read what Tarpischev said.

Sveta was 3-3 in Fed Cup singles competition last year, and two of those wins came against Austria. Form on the Tour doesn't necessarily translate into form when playing Fed Cup.

goldenlox
Apr 8th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Sveta is 19, and #7 in the world. She belongs on the team.
Her form is up and down. In Fed Cup, and on the tour.
That's something she has to work through.

the cat
Apr 8th, 2005, 04:05 PM
I think the Russian Fed Cup team against Italy should be Myskina, Dementieva, Kuznetsova and Zvonarerva. And Myskina and Zvonareva could play the doubles if it's the deciding tie point.

goldenlox
Apr 8th, 2005, 04:07 PM
Nah. It's good to bring someone who hasn't been there.
I would do that, and bring Zhenya to the next one, and then Kirilenko.
Bringing Bovina, in her current form, is risky - if she's needed.

goldenlox
Apr 8th, 2005, 07:53 PM
The challenge in 2005 is to repeat as Fed Cup champions.
But it's also important to bring some of the top younger players onto the team.

And Fed Cup should be for Russian players who want to be on the team.

I would not invite Sharapova again.

Derek.
Apr 9th, 2005, 01:36 AM
Everybody's form is questionable that is on the Fed Cup team this year. I mean Dementieva and Safina have had a pretty good year, but Nastya and Elena B have been inconsistant. :shrug:

the cat
Apr 9th, 2005, 02:55 PM
GL, are you saying you would never invite Maria Sharapova to play Fed Cup for Russia again?

goldenlox
Apr 9th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Tarpischev went to Miami and invited Maria to be on the team.
Maria isn't playing this week, next week, FC week, or the week after.

Yet she still turned down the invitation to be on the Russian Fed Cup team.

Tarpischev should invite the players who want to be a part of the team.

Natasc
Apr 9th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Tarpischev went to Miami and invited Maria to be on the team.
Maria isn't playing this week, next week, FC week, or the week after.

Yet she still turned down the invitation to be on the Russian Fed Cup team.

Tarpischev should invite the players who want to be a part of the team.
I Agree 100% with you :yeah:

saab95
Apr 9th, 2005, 06:11 PM
right
another thing we now know: Farina Elia has decided not to play Fed Cup this yr.

are you sure? ;)

_LuCaS_
Apr 9th, 2005, 08:06 PM
Except Anastasia, Russia has a different team from last year's finals. They say you don't change the winning team, but if Russia can afford that, they have a great future in tennis.

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2005, 05:10 PM
Except Anastasia, Russia has a different team from last year's finals. They say you don't change the winning team, but if Russia can afford that, they have a great future in tennis.There's a combination of quality and quantity.
But the most important factor is that the players WANT to be on the team.

Someone like Sharapova, who acts like being invited to be on the Russian Fed Cup team is a punishment, shouldn't be invited again.

the cat
Apr 10th, 2005, 05:42 PM
Ever GL? That's not going to happen. Masha will play Fed Cup for Russia next year or her saying over and over again that she wants to play Fed Cup for Russia will look like she was just saying it for public relations purposes.

goldenlox
Apr 10th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Ever GL? That's not going to happen. Masha will play Fed Cup for Russia next year or her saying over and over again that she wants to play Fed Cup for Russia will look like she was just saying it for public relations purposes.I am serious. If Maria wants to play Fed Cup, she can contact Tarpischev, and he can decide if he wants her.
But he shouldn't invite her again.
Maria has nothing scheduled this whole month. And she acts like it's some punishment she has to lie her way out of.

the cat
Apr 10th, 2005, 09:21 PM
What lie? Maria has back and wrist injuries. And she's played 10 more matches this year compared to the same point last year. The red clay season and grass court season is the toughest time of the year for tennis players and Masha has to be well rested to play well on the red clay and grass courts.

But I do agree with you that Shamil Tarpischev shouldn't be in any rush to ask Sharapova to play Fed Cup for Russia. I only hope the next time he he asks Sharapova to play Fed Cup that he gets to speak to her directly and not her father and doctor.

andrewbroad
Apr 10th, 2005, 09:37 PM
Maria has back and wrist injuries. And she's played 10 more matches this year compared to the same point last year. The red clay season and grass court season is the toughest time of the year for tennis players and Masha has to be well rested to play well on the red clay and grass courts.

I agree. Maria has played a lot of matches in the last three months, and should not risk physical burnout for the sake of a Fed Cup tie.

The French Open and Wimbledon are a million times more important to a player of Maria's Grand-Slam-winning credentials than a first-round Fed Cup tie which Russia should comfortably win without her anyway.

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goldenlox
Apr 12th, 2005, 03:25 PM
The French Open and Wimbledon are a million times more important to a player of Maria's Grand-Slam-winning credentials than a first-round Fed Cup tie which Russia should comfortably win without her anyway.I've got a news flash for you.
The French Open is very, very important to Nastya and Lena -
who played in the RG final last year.

But they're still playing Fed Cup for Russia.
And they are glad to do it.

Maria is not playing any tournaments this month.
Would spending 2 days in Italy hurt her FO chances?

Or is this another business situation, like Maria skipping the Tier I Kremlin Cup, to play a Tier IV and a Tier III, when she was in the top 10.
Then taking a vacation during KC week, and playing Zurich the following week.

the cat
Apr 12th, 2005, 07:28 PM
I hate to tell you this Andrew, but GL has got you with the goods! :eek: ;) Masha is out of excuses for not playing Moscow. She says she wants to play for Russia in Fed Cup and she says she will play Moscow this year. In my opinion playing Moscow this year is Masha's last chance to prove she really wants to represent Russia. Only a legimate injury or illness will keep Masha from playing Moscow this year.

saab95
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:01 PM
Nastya pulled out FC.
Official reason - shoulder injury
Vera Duchevina (!) is the team.

goldenlox
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:09 PM
The team is Lena D., Lena B., Dinara, and Vera D.
This will be a difficult tie.
We may need 3 wins from Lena D.

ys
Apr 15th, 2005, 03:58 PM
It's amazing that next year after winning the cup we play with a totally different squad. 4 different people. And we could still have played Sharapova, Petrova, Linetskaya, Kirilenko. And that would be another different crew.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:00 PM
Lena B and Lena D will have to provide the goods on day 1 :)

strange choice having Vera D on team as clay is not her strong point.

ys
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:01 PM
The team is Lena D., Lena B., Dinara, and Vera D.
This will be a difficult tie.
We may need 3 wins from Lena D.

It could turn into a nightmare for Shamil, because Lena is likely to go all the way in Charleston. Meaning, she is unlikely to join the team before Tuesday. And then on Friday/Saturday she will be really jetlagged.

goldenlox
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:08 PM
And we could still have played Sharapova, Petrova, Linetskaya, Kirilenko. And that would be another different crew.I don't expect Sharapova to play for Russia.
Lena D. wasn't allowed on this team last year.
Now Lena D. is the team leader.
Her health is important.
But Lena B. and Safina can play a little tennis, too.

ys
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:13 PM
I don't expect Sharapova to play for Russia.


I do. Why don't we believe her in what she says? She says - I'll play for Russia Fed Cup, I'll play for Russia at Olympics. Honestly? I believe her in what she says. No one believed that Anna K. would ever play for Russia. She did.

goldenlox
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:18 PM
Sharapova took a vacation during KC week last year.
She played the week before, and the week after.

She's not playing any tournaments this month, but refused Fed Cup.
When she's on the Fed Cup team, then I'll believe her.

the cat
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:23 PM
I wonder if Masha was asked if she would play Fed Cup for Russia against Italy is Myskina withdrew with an injury. And everyone knows Nastya has a bad shoulder.

GL, Masha wouldn't make a fool of herself by saying over and over again that she wants to play Fed Cup for Russia but never play Fed Cup for Russia. She still has time on her side.

goldenlox
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:27 PM
GL, Masha wouldn't make a fool of herself ...Oh yes, she would :lol:

http://img162.echo.cx/my.php?image=sharapovabday178pd.jpg

ys
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:47 PM
GL, Masha wouldn't make a fool of herself by saying over and over again that she wants to play Fed Cup for Russia but never play Fed Cup for Russia. She still has time on her side.

Maybe we indeed should not hunt all those cats in Wisconsin..

Shoulderpova
Apr 15th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Shamil Tarpishev :speakles:

goldenlox
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:17 PM
Thie tie in Italy will be very interesting.
Lena D. is wearing tape on her thigh, and might make the finals in the U.S. this week.
Lena B. has lost 3 of her last 4 matches, only beating Perebiynis.
Dinara and Vera D. have no FC experience.

It makes for a good sporting event.

saki
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Russia will still probably win, but they're cutting it very fine with this team. Given that there are so many good Russian players, this really wasn't necessary. Why has Vera Z been overlooked this time? Why not Elena L? Why two youngsters? It makes no sense.

Epigone
Apr 15th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Why has Vera Z been overlooked this time?She didn't wish to be considered this time because she is struggling with her form

Prizeidiot
Apr 16th, 2005, 09:14 AM
I agree, at a time like this, against a very good Italian team, why not use Petrova or Likhotseva? This tie is going to be very very close. Although if Bovina plays well, it might be much more comfortable. But she's having problems with fitness isn't she?

tenn_ace
Apr 16th, 2005, 01:34 PM
I bet Maria will be on the team if Russia gets to the second round an dmeet with USA.

goldenlox
Apr 16th, 2005, 03:09 PM
I bet Maria will be on the team if Russia gets to the second round an dmeet with USA.That's right after Wimbledon, and no matter how Maria does at Wimbledon, I'll bet she doesn't go from England to Russia.

saab95
Apr 17th, 2005, 08:49 AM
That's right after Wimbledon, and no matter how Maria does at Wimbledon, I'll bet she doesn't go from England to Russia.

never say "never" ;)

Shoulderpova
Apr 17th, 2005, 11:56 AM
GL stop being crappy :fiery:

goldenlox
Apr 17th, 2005, 05:31 PM
Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.
But if Lena doesn't leave the U.S. healthy after a long week at this Tier I, there may be no second round for Russia.
And Maria should be at this first tie.
She's not playing all month.

andrewbroad
Apr 17th, 2005, 08:36 PM
I've got a news flash for you.
The French Open is very, very important to Nastya and Lena -
who played in the RG final last year.

Yes, but Myskina has only played 15 singles matches this year, Dementieva 17.

Maria has played 25 matches in that frail, slender body of hers, and has been warned by her coach Robert Lansdorp about the danger of physical burnout.

Maria is not playing any tournaments this month.
Would spending 2 days in Italy hurt her FO chances?

But it's not just two days. There's a lot more to participating in a Fed Cup tie than just the playing of it! It requires at least a week of intensive training in a team-environment.

When Tim Henman decided to retire from playing Davis Cup, he claimed that each tie was taking three weeks out of his schedule IIRC!

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goldenlox
Apr 17th, 2005, 08:38 PM
Maria has played 25 matches in that frail, slender body of hers, and has been warned by her coach Robert Lansdorp about the possibility of physical burnout.
Lansdorp told Maria not to play Miami, and he even told the media that Maria shouldn't play.
And then Maria went and played 6 matches anyway.
Here, she would play 2 matches, tops.
And Russia could use her next week.

saki
Apr 19th, 2005, 11:55 AM
Not everyone cares about Fed Cup as much as you do, goldenlox. It's not just Maria either, Sveta also wants to focus on her singles, Vera Z wants to focus on getting herself back into form, Nastya wants to get healthy again. And that's fair enough.

Epigone
Apr 19th, 2005, 02:51 PM
Reuters put out an article (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=tennisNews&storyID=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20050418:MTFH77 894_2005-04-18_23-27-54_B634001:1) today about Nastya withdrawing from Fed Cup, and it included this sentence...The Russians have yet to announce a replacement for Myskina, although world number 12 Nadia Petrova is a possibility.Is Vera Douchevina playing, or is there an open spot in the squad?

ys
Apr 19th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Russia is a favourite, but for the odds I saw at bookies my money would be on Italy.

goldenlox
Apr 19th, 2005, 06:09 PM
I really want to win this first round, because hosting the U.S. would be a nice event.
Should draw some media coverage.
Hopefully, Russia will have it's highest ranked players for that one.

But Italy will be tough. I hope both Lenas are ready on Saturday.

saab95
Apr 20th, 2005, 01:44 PM
Reuters put out an article (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=tennisNews&storyID=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20050418:MTFH77 894_2005-04-18_23-27-54_B634001:1) today about Nastya withdrawing from Fed Cup, and it included this sentence...Is Vera Douchevina playing, or is there an open spot in the squad?

Vera is in, but Reuters isn't in the thread sometimes :(

goldenlox
Apr 20th, 2005, 03:20 PM
This will be a difficult tie to win -

http://en.rian.ru/sports/20050420/39707611.html

saab95
Apr 20th, 2005, 04:08 PM
This will be a difficult tie to win -

http://en.rian.ru/sports/20050420/39707611.html

58% don't know what real russian roulette is
http://boxmail.biz/constructor/img/58860.jpg

I don't know who'll get "the week of fun in july"
but I'm sure our girls need our support this week.

goldenlox
Apr 20th, 2005, 04:27 PM
I'm sure Lena D. is very motivated. She wants to win a Fed Cup Championship.

Here's last year -

http://www.itftennis.com/abouttheitf/news/newsarticle.asp?id=12809

saab95
Apr 20th, 2005, 04:45 PM
Lena D. was very motivated in 2003 before France too.
I talked with her this day...
Hope she'll be more happy this time.

goldenlox
Apr 20th, 2005, 04:48 PM
Some pictures -

http://www.fedcup.com/interact/galleries.asp

_LuCaS_
Apr 20th, 2005, 05:24 PM
Good luck Russia :bigclap:

Paco
Apr 20th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Good luck

saab95
Apr 21st, 2005, 08:35 AM
Pennetta is out!
from GM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=162340

Our team is together at least.

goldenlox
Apr 21st, 2005, 03:16 PM
Here's an article that quotes Elena Dementieva -
"I don't think that Maria's ever going to play for Russia."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/columns/story?id=2041214

Russians hope to take on top US players

Russians hope to take on top U.S. players



By Matthew Cronin
Special to ESPN.com
The Russians and Americans haven't even gotten past the opening round of Fed Cup play and already the Russians say they want to put their best up against a U.S. dream team in the semifinals.

"We want to play their best players," Russian Elena Dementieva told ESPN.com. "You never enjoy playing against someone from the top 200. You want the challenge from top-10 play. That's what makes it so interesting. We want to face their dream team."

The U.S. Fed Cup team hasn't had a dream matchup since the 1996 final, when Monica Seles and Lindsay Davenport blew out in-form former Slam champs Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario and Conchita Martinez in Atlantic City.

But that chance could be coming soon should the United States and Russia win their respective quarterfinals this weekend. The Americans face an undermanned Belgian team in Delay Beach, Fla., while Russia takes on Italy in Brindisi, Italy.

It would set up the semifinal the world wants just five days after Wimbledon: the Williams sisters and Davenport versus the gaggle of elite Russians – Dementieva: Anastasia Myskina, Svetlana Kuznetsova, Nadia Petrova and, Yuri Sharapova willing, his headline-grabbing daughter, Maria.

The chances of it occurring are not great. Neither Venus nor Serena has played a Fed Cup tie away after Wimbledon since 1999, and Davenport is no great lover of extended European business trips. Garrison's other option, Jennifer Capriati, hasn't entered the French Open, and it's unlikely she will return from shoulder surgery before the summer hard court season.

Plus, Serena, Venus or Davenport has reached the Wimbledon final during the past six years. Each has made it deep into the second week unless she missed the tournament with injuries. In all likelihood, by the time the Americans leave the All England Club, they'll want to head straight home for a week of rest before the U.S. hard court season begins, not east to Moscow to get their grass-stained feet muddy on dirt.

Last year, Venus led her team to a heart-stirring win over Slovenia in April on slow red clay but, like the rest of the U.S. stars, bailed out of the July tie against Austria on clay. The result was a 4-1 loss.

"They get tired," U.S. Fed Cup captain Zina Garrison told ESPN.com. "That's always going to be difficult, but they are aware of that and know that we have to come together as a team if we are to win it all. At least we've had the conversations this year, and I'm not getting absolute 'Noes' like I had before. Russia's pretty much 10 players deep. We'll need our good players. My hope is that they come back and play in July."

First things first, which means taking down Belgium. Ironically, this quarterfinal tie could have been a blockbuster had Kim Clijsters and Justine Henin-Hardenne played. Indian Wells and Miami champ Clijsters isn't willing to add another week of tennis to her surgically repaired wrist. Henin-Hardenne – who won Charleston Sunday – isn't willing to test her virus-ravaged body in consecutive weeks.

So Garrison is planning on sending out a hobbled Serena Williams (who twisted her ankle at Amelia Island) and a limping Davenport (who pulled out of her Charleston quarterfinal with a hip flexor) against a Belgian team that includes Ells Callens, Kirsten Flipkens, Leslie Butkiewicz and Evelyne Van Hyfte, none of whom holds world rankings in the top 150. That's not exactly a tantalizing tie.

"I'm a competitor, of course I want to play their best, but we still have to get a win," Garrison said.

Venus, who hasn't won a title in a year and says she's mentally burned out, is the back-up singles player and Corina Morariu is scheduled to play doubles with Davenport. It's an odd role for four-time Grand Slam champion Venus, but Garrison – one of Venus' few confidantes outside of her own family – says they are on the same page.

"She knows she might not be playing," Garrison said. "But she's a team player and agreed to come, and if she's needed, she's needed."

Russia has a much more difficult task to advance to the semifinals. It plays away against an Italian squad with two players who know how to mix it up on dirt: Flavia Pennetta, who won two small clay court titles in February, and No. 20-ranked Francesca Schiavone. Russia likely will play Dementieva and Nadia Petrova in singles and skyscrapers Elena Bovina and Dinara Safina in doubles.

"It will be very difficult," Dementieva said. They love clay courts and will try to take advantage of the surface."

Russia's big problem is that reigning Roland Garros champion Myskina – who was last year's Fed Cup heroine – just pulled out of the Fed Cup with a shoulder injury. Dementieva also said Myskina is having personal problems.

"She's having a tough time," Dementieva said. "She's not as focused on her tennis now. But she can come back and play well whenever she wants."

While Russia team captain Shamil Tarpischev leads his team with a strong hand, it was Myskina who has been the force in the locker room, developing close friendships with Svetlana Kuznetsova, Vera Zvonareva and a number of other team members. It was Myskina who fought with Maria Sharapova's father, Yuri, and vowed during last year's Fed Cup final never to play on a team with Sharapova as long as Yuri is around.

And guess who isn't on the squad to face Italy? Sharapova, who at first said she wanted to play, but after losing the Miami final to Clijsters, said she was too tired and needs some serious R&R.

Dementieva doesn't believe Sharapova, who's been living in Florida since she was 9, will ever play for Russia.

"I don't think that Maria's ever going to play for Russia," Dementieva said. "I never thought she'd play for Russia."

Dementieva said it's not the ongoing controversy with Myskina that's behind it.

"I don't think it's about that," Dementieva said. "I don't like this talk, when one player says 'I won't play if she's on the team.' We can be a team for one week and do what we need to for our country, just go on court and do your own business."

Assuming Russia and the United States conduct their business properly, there will be a terrific buildup to the July tie. The United States has won the Fed Cup a record 17 times, with the last title in 2000. Defending champion Russia is the new big bully on the block, owning three out of the past four Grand Slam titles.

It's almost a given that Russia's top players will show, but will Garrison be able to deliver a Pat Summit type of speech and gets her players to head to Moscow? Maybe if the Russians get their neck hairs up and trash talk the U.S. team for the next two months, which is exactly what the struggling Fed Cup needs to grab some headlines.

"It will be difficult for the U.S. girls because they are already in Europe for a couple of months, " Dementieva said. "But I expect our girls to play. We'll look forward to it. I'm sure a lot of fans want to see Serena and Venus coming to Moscow."

saab95
Apr 21st, 2005, 03:41 PM
Russians Target Repeat Victory
http://www.fedcup.com/news/newsarticle.asp?id=10580

"For me it has always been a very important tournament," Lena D. said. "I participated in the Fed Cup for almost all of the years since I started playing, except last year. I always said, I am ready to play whenever and wherever.

"Now I am in the team again and I'm very excited."

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 21st, 2005, 03:56 PM
draw is tomorrow
and 1st rubber is crucial

hope Lena D gets drawn to play 1st match and get us of to a good start.

goldenlox
Apr 21st, 2005, 04:15 PM
It seems like Schiavone and Santangelo are playing for Italy.
We'll know for sure at the draw.
Santangelo is 23 and ranked about #170. She lost to Galina V. in a 50k last month.

Paco
Apr 21st, 2005, 06:15 PM
Well, I think that Russia will win with Italy.
It can be hard to defeat USA but it's not imposible.
In my opinion if Russia win with USA, they will win FedCup

goldenlox
Apr 21st, 2005, 06:18 PM
Well, I think that Russia will win with Italy.
It can be hard to defeat USA but it's not imposible.
In my opinion if Russia win with USA, they will win FedCupThere's no reason to even think about the U.S. now.
They have to beat Italy this weekend.
That's all that matters.

Paco
Apr 21st, 2005, 06:21 PM
There's no reason to even think about the U.S. now.
They have to beat Italy this weekend.
That's all that matters.

Yes, they have to beat Italy

ys
Apr 21st, 2005, 07:10 PM
Well, I think that Russia will win with Italy.
It can be hard to defeat USA but it's not imposible.
In my opinion if Russia win with USA, they will win FedCup

Do you really think we will see any of Davenport or Williams sisters in Moscow for very slow indoors clay next week after Wimbledon?

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 21st, 2005, 07:45 PM
Do you really think we will see any of Davenport or Williams sisters in Moscow for very slow indoors clay next week after Wimbledon?

i dont either, but to make the tie more "appealing to the yanks" :lol: we should hold it .......... for say in Yekaterinburg, outdoors
further east would be even better :devil:

dont see why we always play in Moscow, better to torture the visitors a little :devil:


now lets do our part of the job this weekend and make sure of it.

Daniel
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:25 PM
Russians have plenty in reserve for Fed Cup

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/images/21_4_2005_Dementieva.jpg LONDON: Russia will expect to make a successful start to their Fed Cup defence in Italy this weekend despite the absence of their three grand slam winners.

By winning their maiden Fed Cup title last November, the nation capped a remarkable 2004 during which three of the four grand slam singles trophies were lifted by Russian women. However French Open champion Anastasia Myskina, Wimbledon winner Maria Sharapova and US Open champion Svetlana Kuznetsova will not be travelling to Brindisi. World number two Sharapova turned down an invite from Russian captain Shamil Tarpishchev to join the team, averting the possibility of extending a long-running spat with her compatriots. Injury forced Myskina out of the tie.

With eight top 20-ranked players at his disposal, Tarpishchev has plenty of options for a fourth member to join Elena Dementieva, Elena Bovina and Dinara Safina in his team. Nadia Petrova is expected to complete the Russian lineup. They are unlikely to have a smooth outing on the red clay of the Circolo Tennis Centre. The Italians, who will be spearheaded by world number 20 Francesca Schiavone and Flavia Pennetta, will be determined to make home advantage count. The hosts also enjoy the added psychological edge of having Pennetta in their ranks. She is the only player in the tie to have captured two claycourt titles this season.

Derek.
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:28 PM
I'm so confused. GL says Vera D is in, but every article talks about Nadia!?!? :confused:

Daniel
Apr 21st, 2005, 11:35 PM
21 Apr 2005 - Simon CambersRussians Target Repeat VictoryHaving waited 42 years to win the Fed Cup for the first time, Russia appear to be developing a taste for it.

With five players in the top 10, and with three current grand slam champions from whom to choose, the Russians go into this year's event knowing that they have a great chance of defending the title they won so superbly against France in Moscow.

And that, according to Elena Dementieva and Anastasia Myskina, is exactly what they intend to do.

"I think we have a very strong team and we have a good chance again this year," Dementieva said.

"We had to wait a long time to win it and maybe we can win it again."

Dementieva will lead Russia in their first-round tie against Italy in Brindisi, while Elena Bovina and Dinara Safina, ranked 14 and 37 respectively, will also play.

Though Wimbledon champion Maria Sharapova has yet to make her debut for Russia, and both Myskina and US Open champion Svetlana Kuznetsova will be missing, Russia still have a formidable side for this tie. And when they are all fit and available, as Russian fans will be hoping is the case later in the year, they look even stronger.

They'll need to be at their best, though, since the United States, whom they could meet in the semifinals, are unleashing world number one Lindsay Davenport and the Williams sisters on the competition for the first time since 1999, when, incidentally, they beat Russia in the final.

However, not even the strongest American team in years appears to have unsettled the Russians.

"It's exciting to compete against the best players," Dementieva said.

"Of course we have to play Italy first but if we get through that we will maybe play the USA, and then hopefully we can win that too."

Myskina, who beat Dementieva to win the French Open last year, said Russia's strength in depth was helping them build a team which could dominate the event for several years.

"It's tough, because we have so many players and they all want to play singles, so you don't want to sit on the bench," she said.
"But there's a lot of competition between the Russian girls and it's making us stronger."

Their victory over France in last year's final proved a huge success with the people in Russia, Dementieva said.

"I think it meant a lot," she said. "Most people in Russia don't really know how the WTA Tour works, they really just know the Olympic Games and team events, so the Fed Cup is very important there."

Dementieva, who also lost out in the US Open final last year, was not part of the team that beat France in the final, and said she was delighted to be back.

"For me it has always been a very important tournament," she said. "I participated in the Fed Cup for almost all of the years since I started playing, except last year. I always said, I am ready to play whenever and wherever.

"Now I am in the team again and I'm very excited."

Paco
Apr 22nd, 2005, 09:52 AM
i dont either, but to make the tie more "appealing to the yanks" :lol: we should hold it .......... for say in Yekaterinburg, outdoors
further east would be even better :devil:

dont see why we always play in Moscow, better to torture the visitors a little :devil:


now lets do our part of the job this weekend and make sure of it.

It's great idea.
Is Yekaterinburg near Ural?

Paco
Apr 22nd, 2005, 10:06 AM
You said abaut Yekaterinburg. What do tou think about Tomsk or Novosibirsk ;)

_LuCaS_
Apr 22nd, 2005, 10:10 AM
It's great idea.
Is Yekaterinburg near Ural?
:lol: yeah also known as Sverdlovsk, brrr
I would like Norilsk though :devil:

Paco
Apr 22nd, 2005, 10:20 AM
:lol: yeah also known as Sverdlovsk, brrr
I would like Norilsk though :devil:

In Norilsk it could be hard to play outdoors

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 22nd, 2005, 11:30 AM
In Norilsk it could be hard to play outdoors

Russia winning is all that matters :angel:
play on anything, anywhere to WIN.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 22nd, 2005, 11:44 AM
Safina Chosen for RussiaThe draw for the Italy v Russia World Group I first round tie has been made in Brindisi. Dinara Safina will make her Fed Cup debut for Russia in Saturday's first match against Francesca Schiavone. Despite being injured, Flavia Pennettta still turned up to support the hosts, who must be starting to think they have a chance against a weaker Russian team than expected.

Francesca Schiavone (ITA) v Dinara Safina (RUS)
Tathiana Garbin (ITA) v Elena Dementieva (RUS)
Francesca Schiavone (ITA) v Elena Dementieva (RUS)
Tathiana Garbin (ITA) v Dinara Safina (RUS)
Tathiana Garbin/Francesca Schiavone (ITA) v Elena Bovina/Elena Dementieva (RUS)

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 22nd, 2005, 11:46 AM
not good,
would have been better if Lena D played 1st and got us off to a 1-0 lead
Dinara's 1st match in Fed Cup too.

why didnt he pick Lena B to play Schiavone :shrug:

at least Dina has beaten Schiavone before.

saab95
Apr 22nd, 2005, 12:07 PM
not good,
would have been better if Lena D played 1st and got us off to a 1-0 lead
Dinara's 1st match in Fed Cup too.

QUOTE]
agree

[QUOTE]why didnt he pick Lena B to play Schiavone :shrug:

Shamil said Lena B. isn't ready

http://www.sport-express.ru/art.shtml?102513

So I'm wonder why Dinara not Vera.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 22nd, 2005, 12:11 PM
[QUOTE=TheBoiledEgg]not good,
would have been better if Lena D played 1st and got us off to a 1-0 lead
Dinara's 1st match in Fed Cup too.

QUOTE]
agree



Shamil said Lena B. isn't ready

http://www.sport-express.ru/art.shtml?102513

So I'm wonder why Dinara not Vera.

Lena B either is ready to play or she shouldnt be picked, we got plenty of choices.

Dinara loves the clay, its her best surface
Vera D doesnt like clay at all :o :(

Paco
Apr 22nd, 2005, 12:14 PM
It's not so bad.

Shamil is stupid and he is always doing strange decision. Can't he be changed?

Epigone
Apr 22nd, 2005, 12:29 PM
Shamil :shrug:

Once again, he makes some strange choices :scratch:

Let's hope that Dinara can take the early lead for Russia :yeah:

DEETHELICK
Apr 22nd, 2005, 02:13 PM
Good luck to the ladies. A lot of pressure rests on Elena D's shoulders, she is the highest ranked and virtual captain.

She needs to make her play count. And I believe she can do it :)

goldenlox
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:07 PM
This is going to be a tough tie to win.
Dinara hasn't played well, except for Paris.

goldenlox
Apr 22nd, 2005, 03:21 PM
Dinara is 2-1 against Schiavone, and 2-0 against Garbin.
But this is Fed Cup, in Italy.
There will be tremendous pressure on Lena if Russia starts 0-1.

ys
Apr 22nd, 2005, 04:13 PM
I have my faith in Dina, she'll blow Schiavone off the court. That will be the end of the tie.

goldenlox
Apr 22nd, 2005, 04:16 PM
It's not a neutral site. And Dinara can get emotional.
The crowd could distract her.
Lena HAS to win on day 1.
But if Dinara wins, it should be an easy tie.

tenn_ace
Apr 22nd, 2005, 04:44 PM
according to an article here (Farticshev is quoted), Maria will not play FedCup for Russia this year... I'm not sure whether it's recent quote or the last from last year though...

http://sport.gazeta.ru/sport/2005/04/a_273849.shtml (http://sport.gazeta.ru/sport/2005/04/a_273849.shtml)

goldenlox
Apr 22nd, 2005, 05:04 PM
This tie is really exciting.
I don't know how Dinara will react to a loud crowd, rooting against her.
I know Lena D. wants to be a team leader.

Davenport has said that she wants to come to Russia in July.

Now Lena and Dinara have to make that tie happen.

ys
Apr 22nd, 2005, 05:24 PM
This tie is really exciting.
I don't know how Dinara will react to a loud crowd, rooting against her.


How? How about Open Gaz De France final? And with coaching available I do not think it will be an issue.

goldenlox
Apr 22nd, 2005, 05:27 PM
That's true. But I read Dinara was very upset with the crowd after playing Zheng in Melbourne.
And since Paris, Dinara has played 4 matches, and only won 1 of them, against Lee-Waters.

ys
Apr 22nd, 2005, 05:40 PM
And since Paris, Dinara has played 4 matches, and only won 1 of them, against Lee-Waters.

F@cking up on a spring hardcourts is a family tradition.

_LuCaS_
Apr 22nd, 2005, 07:11 PM
Dinara first match? :unsure:
Come on girls, I really want to see a Russia-US clash :boxing:

Stupid RaiUno, not even some highlights tomorrow :(

Derek.
Apr 23rd, 2005, 12:44 AM
Good luck Dina and Lena!!! :D

Prizeidiot
Apr 23rd, 2005, 08:36 AM
I have faith in this Russian team, I'll predict 4-1 if it gets that far. Italy needed Penetta and Farina-Elia if they were going to pull off the upset. They only have Schiavona now

Clai
Apr 23rd, 2005, 11:40 AM
Go Russia!

Shoulderpova
Apr 23rd, 2005, 12:29 PM
Go Russia :bigclap:

Epigone
Apr 23rd, 2005, 02:25 PM
Schiavone defeated Dina 7-5 6-3

She was 1/12 on BP :shrug:

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 23rd, 2005, 02:25 PM
Capt braindead strikes again

Dina lost 57 36 :fiery:

Lena has to win her match today now
come on Lena, level it up.

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 02:26 PM
Go Russia

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 02:31 PM
Go Lena, you can do that.

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:07 PM
Having Dinara play her first Fed Cup match in Italy, against a quality veteran, was an impossible situation.

The question is - where is Sharapova? Where is Kuznetsova?
This is when they're needed.
And they're both on vacation in Spain :rolleyes:

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:11 PM
Having Dinara play her first Fed Cup match in Italy, against a quality veteran, was an impossible situation.

The question is - where is Sharapova? Where is Kuznetsova?
This is when they're needed.
And they're both on vacation in Spain :rolleyes:


a puppet can do more of a capts job than Shamil :rolleyes:
if he cant get to unite the team, its :wavey: :wavey:
time for someone else

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:18 PM
a puppet can do more of a capts job than Shamil :rolleyes:
if he cant get to unite the team, its :wavey: :wavey:
time for someone elseI said that last year, and fresh2flash said this system is so corrupt, that Tarpischev can't be removed.

For this tie, Sharapova and Kuznetsova should have made themselves available.
They're not doing anything. And they haven't done anything since their losses in Miami.

saki
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:25 PM
What would it take for Shamil to resign? Losing to this Italian team would be stupid given the players that could have been here. It's not all the players fault either - it's his job to unite them and encourage them. Every Russian Fed Cup tie that I've seen has had him just ignoring the players win or lose, whereas just look at the Italian captain or Guy Forget with the French team. I wouldn't want to play in a team captained by Shamil either..

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:28 PM
This tie is far from The Tier I's - IW & Miami, and Berlin & Rome.
Sharapova and Kuznetsova should have made themselves available.

This is Fed Cup, representing your country. And it's red clay, what these players are training for, RG.
They should be here.

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:34 PM
Yes, the should be there but they aren't. In my opinion they, especially Sharapova don't care about coutry.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:36 PM
What would it take for Shamil to resign? Losing to this Italian team would be stupid given the players that could have been here. It's not all the players fault either - it's his job to unite them and encourage them. Every Russian Fed Cup tie that I've seen has had him just ignoring the players win or lose, whereas just look at the Italian captain or Guy Forget with the French team. I wouldn't want to play in a team captained by Shamil either..

unless he's removed by force, nothing
he seems to think its a lifetime honour.

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:38 PM
unless he's removed by force, nothing
he seems to think its a lifetime honour.
Who can do it?

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:42 PM
Lena was down 2-4, but won the first set 6-4.
Being down 0-1, and on the road, has put a lot of pressure on Lena.
It's good she's playing Garbin, and not Elia.

Epigone
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:46 PM
Who can do it?If Fetisov wanted to do so, he could snap his fingers, and Tarpischev would be gone.

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:47 PM
In second set it 2-0 for Lena

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 03:48 PM
If Fetisov wanted to do so, he could snap his fingers, and Tarpischev would be gone.
Maybe we should send him a letter ;)

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 04:04 PM
Anybody for playing for their country - like NBA players on the U.S. Olympic team -
they can't choose the coach.
But you play to represent your country.

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 04:09 PM
Lena is up 6-4, 4-1.

The matchups tomorrow are interesting -
Lena vs. Schiavone. Then Dinara (or Lena B.?) against Garbin.
Then doubles.

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 04:10 PM
Anybody for playing for their country - like NBA players on the U.S. Olympic team -
they can't choose the coach.
But you play to represent your country.

I know it, but people from country, media, etc. have power to change the coach.

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 04:27 PM
Lena won 6-4 6-3

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 23rd, 2005, 04:29 PM
well done Lena :) :yeah: :)
made it hard work again :)


tomorrow is the big one
Lena plays 1st up
and has to win her singles

good luck Lena :hug:

Paco
Apr 23rd, 2005, 04:34 PM
Yeah, she has to do that.
Good luck tommorow not only for Lena but also for whole Russia team

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 04:38 PM
Lena D. wants to be on this team all year.
A win tomorrow, and Russia winning this tie, should guarantee Lena is on this team in July.

saki
Apr 23rd, 2005, 05:06 PM
I know you "play to represent your country" and stuff, but the federation needs to do its bit in persuading, unifying and encouraging the players. Russia is damn lucky that Elena D didn't turn down Fed Cup this year after the way they've treated her in the past. Dinara is now another player with a bad experience of Fed Cup - no way should she have had to play her first Fed Cup match against a veteran as good as Schiavone in a tie this tight. Sveta and Vera Z have also had tough Fed Cup experiences and Shamil does nothing to encourage them. Seriously, just look at other Fed Cup captains and how they are with their teams - with a decent captain Russia ought to be able to dominate this competition for the next 10 years or so, but with Shamil...

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 05:12 PM
Dinara has to try to win her match. I don't care if the situation isn't perfect for her.
If she is chosen to play Garbin tomorrow, she needs to play well.

ys
Apr 23rd, 2005, 05:48 PM
I am afriad Tarpishev had no choice. He is obviously banking on Dementieva winning two points and Safina winning tomorrow's match - and for that she had to debute today. I think it is a good strategy. Bovina is clearly not at her best yet, and playing Douchevina is clearly out of question. As to Kuznetsova, Zvonareva or Sharapova - trust me, if Tarpishev could have had them on the team , they would have been selected. The real problem was Myskina's withdrawal. Before she withdraw we had two best clay players of last year on the team and situation was clearly under control. It was really too late to call on a top player by her withdrawal time.. Too late.

As to alternative to Tarpishev.. There is really only one sound alternative - but unfortunately that person is not neutral, so it is hardly possible. I am talking about Olga, of course. She had similar job in mid-eighties, she knows what it is all about. But she is biased right now as a palyer's coach.

Epigone
Apr 23rd, 2005, 06:00 PM
As to Kuznetsova, Zvonareva or Sharapova - trust me, if Tarpishev could have had them on the team , they would have been selected.Do you know if Nadia was asked to play?

As to alternative to Tarpishev.. There is really only one sound alternative - but unfortunately that person is not neutral, so it is hardly possible. I am talking about Olga, of course. She had similar job in mid-eighties, she knows what it is all about. But she is biased right now as a palyer's coach.What about Larisa Savchenko-Neiland?

From what I gather, she is the one who actually works with the players in the lead up to them playing.

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 06:04 PM
If Lena loses to Schiavone, I won't be surprised if Lena B. plays Garbin.
She's in the Warsaw draw.

This current situation occurred because Sharapova and Kuznetsova refused to play.

But for Lena D., it's an opportunity to be a team leader. She has to beat Schiavone.
And if it's 2-2, win the doubles match.

David Barker
Apr 23rd, 2005, 06:09 PM
I know you "play to represent your country" and stuff, but the federation needs to do its bit in persuading, unifying and encouraging the players. Russia is damn lucky that Elena D didn't turn down Fed Cup this year after the way they've treated her in the past. Dinara is now another player with a bad experience of Fed Cup - no way should she have had to play her first Fed Cup match against a veteran as good as Schiavone in a tie this tight. Sveta and Vera Z have also had tough Fed Cup experiences and Shamil does nothing to encourage them. Seriously, just look at other Fed Cup captains and how they are with their teams - with a decent captain Russia ought to be able to dominate this competition for the next 10 years or so, but with

Shamil...

Its not long ago when Shamil was saying he wouldn't pick Elena D ( and indeed Lina K) because their games were too one dimensional. Thank goodness Elena put that behind her. And thank goodness also that Farina Elia didn't play..........!! :)

GOOD LUCK TOMORROW GIRLS!!

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 06:16 PM
Russians have won 3 of the last 4 majors.
And there are 8 Russians in the top 16 this week.
So, who the coach is, shouldn't be an issue.

But when 2 slam holders, Sharapova and Kuznetsova, refuse to play for their country, then this kind of situation happens.

Dementieva should have been on the team last year.
This year, she gets her chance to win a Fed Cup championship.

ys
Apr 23rd, 2005, 06:22 PM
Do you know if Nadia was asked to play?

No, I don't know that.


What about Larisa Savchenko-Neiland?
From what I gather, she is the one who actually works with the players in the lead up to them playing.

She used to be a decent player. But she is not a leader, not someone who can help, can inspire, can help psychologically. She is simply not smart enough for that and her behaviour at last year YEC is evidence to that.

I somehow think that Sharapova won't play for Russia as long as Larisa is around.

goldenlox
Apr 23rd, 2005, 06:25 PM
If Italy wins this tie, this thread is going to be intense tomorrow.
So many issues to deal with :boxing:

Neiland didn't say anything in L.A. that Myskina didn't also say.

the cat
Apr 23rd, 2005, 07:17 PM
The captain can't make players who don't want to play Fed Cup play Fed Cup. It's not his fault Kuznetsova and Sharapova said they weren't playing or that Myskina is battling a lingering right shoulder injury. Now Russia will have to squeak by Italy to advance to the next round of Fed Cup play. Atleast Dementieva was ready to play for her country. :tennis: :)

If what ys said is true about Sharapova not playing Fed Cup until Neiland is gone then we shouldn't expect Masha to play Fed Cup for Russia anytime soon. Russia should be able to field a fine Fed Cup team with most of their top players even without Sharapova.

Natasc
Apr 23rd, 2005, 10:18 PM
This year, she gets her chance to win a Fed Cup championship.
IF Shamil keep her on the team....

ys
Apr 23rd, 2005, 10:28 PM
If Italy wins this tie, this thread is going to be intense tomorrow.


It won't.

Neiland didn't say anything in L.A. that Myskina didn't also say.

Note, in her interviews about Fed Cup Maria never cited Myskina's remarks, never held it against Nastya ( because deep inside Masha understands that Poppy Yura does tend to hit the roof during her matches and it does look offensive.. ). But she repeatedly linked her hesitation to play in Fed Cup with the fact that during her all YEC matches against other Russian players the coach of Russian national team openly cheered against her. It's just a fact - Neiland is not really intelligent and diplomatic..

Prizeidiot
Apr 24th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Its not long ago when Shamil was saying he wouldn't pick Elena D ( and indeed Lina K) because their games were too one dimensional. Thank goodness Elena put that behind her.
He didn't pick them because they were "one-dimensional"?

This is the same guy who absolute adores Sharapova right? I'm sorry, Maria is a fantastic player, but as far as I know, Maria's strength doesn't exactly lie in multidimensioned game. Players should be picked on form.

The team is very lucky that Fed Cup is such a high priority for Elena, otherwise she would have little reason to be playing for them after the crap she has taken.

I believe that Dinara can beat Garbin.... hopefully she will have gotten rid of any nerves in her first match.

Paco
Apr 24th, 2005, 03:27 PM
He didn't pick them because they were "one-dimensional"?

This is the same guy who absolute adores Sharapova right? I'm sorry, Maria is a fantastic player, but as far as I know, Maria's strength doesn't exactly lie in multidimensioned game. Players should be picked on form.

The team is very lucky that Fed Cup is such a high priority for Elena, otherwise she would have little reason to be playing for them after the crap she has taken.

I believe that Dinara can beat Garbin.... hopefully she will have gotten rid of any nerves in her first match.

Bovina pis playing with Camerin. It's 6-3 3-6 3-1 for Bovina.

Paco
Apr 24th, 2005, 03:36 PM
It's 4-1 for Bovina right now.

Paco
Apr 24th, 2005, 03:50 PM
Match ball for Bovina

Epigone
Apr 24th, 2005, 03:52 PM
Russia takes an unbeatable 3-1 lead in the tie :clap2:

Paco
Apr 24th, 2005, 03:53 PM
And Bovina won 6-3 3-6 6-2.
It's 3-1 for Russia so Russia will be play in next round :woohoo:

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 24th, 2005, 03:54 PM
Lena :yeah: :D
made hard work of it though

Lena D's was the big match

Russia at home :D :) next

lets take the yanks away from Moscow
torture them a little :devil:

everyone else plays all over the country.

Paco
Apr 24th, 2005, 03:58 PM
Russia at home :D :) next

lets take the yanks away from Moscow
torture them a little :devil:

everyone else plays all over the country.

Do you really believe that it is possible?

Shoulderpova
Apr 24th, 2005, 04:00 PM
well done Lenas :hatoff: :hug: :smooch:
I guess Vera and Dinara will be put in doubles match :cool:

Stephieva
Apr 24th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Damn Shamil shouldn't ignore LenaD again next time.. :ras:
Today match showed how much Lena is loyal to her country... :worship:
I hope Lena will play in July tie against USA :bounce:

and LenaB :yeah:

Feeling bad for Dinara :sad:
but it's her 1st time in FedCup and she played against a good player..
It's understandable to lose :hug:

KV
Apr 24th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Well done Lena's :D

_LuCaS_
Apr 24th, 2005, 04:29 PM
Good job Russia :yeah: :D
However US it's a different story, even without the sisters (seems that Davenport will play in July).
Tarpischev must gather the big guns for July.

Derek.
Apr 24th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Well done Lenas!! :D

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 05:05 PM
I think Tarpischev felt he could only play Bovina once.
So he saved her to avoid playing Schiavone.

We need 2 strong singles players available for next round.
Probably Myskina and Dementieva.

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 05:09 PM
Note, in her interviews about Fed Cup Maria never cited Myskina's remarks, never held it against Nastya ( because deep inside Masha understands that Poppy Yura does tend to hit the roof during her matches and it does look offensive.. ). But she repeatedly linked her hesitation to play in Fed Cup with the fact that during her all YEC matches against other Russian players the coach of Russian national team openly cheered against her. It's just a fact - Neiland is not really intelligent and diplomatic..I really don't think Maria cares about that stuff.
That's not the reason she avoids Fed Cup.
I think it's about her agent, who doesn't make money from it.

Russia shouldn't expect to see Maria on this team, just like Lena D. predicted.

the cat
Apr 24th, 2005, 05:19 PM
GL, when did Lena D preidict Masha won't be on the team?

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 05:23 PM
Here's an article that quotes Elena Dementieva -
"I don't think that Maria's ever going to play for Russia."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/columns/story?id=2041214
cat, you should read the threads, this is page 4.

the cat
Apr 24th, 2005, 05:36 PM
I don't have the time to read everything GL. I have limited computer time on a daily basis. As for Dementieva's comments there is no reason for her to say such a thing when Maria has always said she wants to play Fed Cup for Russia. But Dementieva's subtle comments about how she doesn't think Masha will ever play Fed Cup for Russia is another reason for Masha not to play Fed Cup for Russia. Masha doesn't need to deal with the other Russina's ego's and attitudes. First Myskina and now this from Dementieva. If I was Masha I would think the hell with them! :mad: :eek: It's obvious that Myskina and Dementieva don't want Masha to be on the Russian Fed Cup team. So why should Masha even bother with what would only be a hassle for her? Who wants to play on a team where the other top players don't want you? Now if in a couple of years Maria Kirilenko and Anna Chakvedatze are on the Russian Fed Cup team then Masha would probably play Fed Cup for Russia then because she gets along well with those girls. :)

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 05:39 PM
Maria has kept herself in a situation where she can fill out a few forms, and play for the U.S. team.
That's because she has never supported Russian tennis on any level.

Even last year, when Maria was in the top 10, she skipped the Tier I Kremlin Cup to play a Tier IV and a Tier III.

the cat
Apr 24th, 2005, 05:55 PM
You're reshashing old news GL. Masha will proudly play Moscow this year and the Moscow crowd will be behind her because she has brought glory and winning to Russian women's tennis! :tennis: :) And she's a Moscow Ambassaor to Moscow's 2012 Olympic bid. :)

If Masha became an American citizen anytime soon she would sound like a phoney when she has said time and time again that she's proud to be Russian and she wants to play Fed Cup and the Olympics for Russia. She has made her feelings known. Now she has to live up to her words. And she should be given the chance to do so.

How great would it be if Sharapova played Myskina or Dementieva in Moscow at the Ladies Kremlin Cup and the crowd was rooting for Masha? :D :bounce:

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 05:59 PM
It would be interesting if Maria showed up in Russia to play Fed Cup for the U.S.,
the way Golovin showed up to play for France.
All Maria has to do is fill out a few forms.

TheBoiledEgg
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:00 PM
How great would it be if Sharapova played Myskina or Dementieva in Moscow at the Ladies Kremlin Cup and the crowd was rooting for Masha? :D :bounce:

thats never gonna happen,
Lena and Nastya are Muscovites, or if she played any other girl from Moscow

and last yr when Lena played Sveta, they were 100% for Lena.


still Masha has to make room to play Fed Cup soon.

maybe they can hold the tie in Sochi

the cat
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:03 PM
I like your Sochi idea Eggy. :) Kafelnikov could be there too supporting the team of Sharapova, Kirilenko, Douchevina and Chekvadatze. :tennis: ;)

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:06 PM
Maria will never have more room than for this tie. She took the whole month of April off.
This is not about making room on her schedule.
Maria doesn't want to play for Russia.

Epigone
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:10 PM
They should play the tie in Irkutsk

That would settle things

_LuCaS_
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:11 PM
How great would it be if Sharapova played Myskina or Dementieva in Moscow at the Ladies Kremlin Cup and the crowd was rooting for Masha? :D :bounce:
:lol: Maybe in an altered dimension

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:13 PM
If Maria doesn't play Fed Cup all year, then shows up at the KC, I wonder if the crowd will even view her as Russian.

the cat
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:13 PM
Don't be a mind reader GL. And Maria will only play on a team she's comfortable with. And why should she be comfortable with the likes of Myskina and Dementieva who have made negative comments about her in the past. Do you want to hang out with girls who don't like you, GL? Of course you don't. Why should Masha?

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:15 PM
All of that stuff started when Maria didn't play the Kremlin Cup last year.
The other players all knew what was going on.
A Russian player in the top 10 doesn't skip the Kremlin Cup to play a Tier IV and a Tier III.
It just doesn't happen.

the cat
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:17 PM
It happened GL and now we have to get over it. But it won't happen this year as Masha will forego a threepeat in the Japan Open to play Moscow. Doesn't that tell you Masha is committed to playing Moscow?

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Masha will forego a threepeat in the Japan Open to play Moscow. Doesn't that tell you Masha is committed to playing Moscow?
She's not allowed to play that Tier III in Japan this year.
That's a new Gold Exempt rule.
Lindsay and Venus will be at the KC too.
A lot of Americans show up.

Epigone
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:32 PM
Vera and Dinara won 6-3 7-5

Russia takes the tie 4-1 :woohoo:

Natasc
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:39 PM
How great would it be if Sharapova played Myskina or Dementieva in Moscow at the Ladies Kremlin Cup and the crowd was rooting for Masha? :D :bounce:

:lol: Maybe in an altered dimension
exactly!!
come on X-men!!
as Yoda said, what Maria did last year is unbelievable!!
skip a TIER I, in the country that SHE BORN!!
for play in... wherever

if she does not play FC.....then russians will not see her as a REAL RUSSIAN
as Marat said: "The russians JUST SEE ELENA AND MYSKINA AS REAL RUSSIANS"
Honestly, I think that Maria do not care for russia.....

and....even if she plays for russia in FC....I doubt that the russian the crowd will root for Masha againts Elena or Myskina

in Australia her popularity wasnt that great......maria is becoming an unpopular player....
as Lucas said: "Maybe in an altered dimension"
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

goldenlox
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:50 PM
Here's a Fed Cup article -

http://www.fedcup.com/news/matchreport.asp?id=10618

Russia won 4-1, now they play the USA in Russia during July.

the cat
Apr 24th, 2005, 06:57 PM
Thanks for anohter good article GL. You are the Barbara Walters of Russian Roulette! :D Albeit a much much younger version of course. ;)

Get over it Nat. The other Russina's don't want Masha on the Fed Cup team and the cat is out of the bag on that one. And the 2003 Japan Open was Masha's first WTA Title. Thus it was only natural for her to want to defend that title in 2004 and she did. Masha will play Moscow this year as long as she's injury free.

_LuCaS_
Apr 24th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Masha will play Moscow this year as long as she's injury free.
Says who? I would not bet my house on that...

ys
Apr 25th, 2005, 12:14 AM
No need to speculate. With Fed Cup and Davis Cup ties being played on back to back weeks both at home, both on clay, Tarpishev won't resist the temptation to reuse the same venue and the same court to save some $$. Moscow, indoors clay, Olympic Stadium ( Kremlin Cup venue ). You'll see..

ys
Apr 25th, 2005, 12:15 AM
As to who is going to be on the team against USA, I am sure that Sveta will be one of them, especially after she wins RG this year.

goldenlox
Apr 25th, 2005, 03:10 PM
Myskina and Dementieva live in Moscow. They are obvious choices.
Sveta will have to do much better than one of them ^ at RG,
to play singles against the USA team.

saki
Apr 25th, 2005, 03:15 PM
Ideally, I think that there should be three players in the team who are all capable of playing singles against the U.S. team so that if someone drops out from injury/has a hard loss and isn't ready to play another match, there's a replacement. On those grounds, I'd go with Myskina & Dementieva as first picks for singles and Sveta as possible singles replacement and doubles with either Bovina or Petrova to play doubles with Sveta. Obviously, if it's a live doubles tie, that could change.

goldenlox
Apr 25th, 2005, 03:21 PM
If the U.S. brings a good team, Russia will need quality and quantity.
I would wet down that red clay, and make it as slow as possible.

the cat
Apr 25th, 2005, 04:02 PM
Lucas, Masha has said she will play Moscow this year and is looking forward to it. :tennis: :)

_LuCaS_
Apr 25th, 2005, 05:39 PM
Lucas, Masha has said she will play Moscow this year and is looking forward to it. :tennis: :)
Lindsay also promised to bring Serena and Venus to MOscow in July.
I'll believe her when I'll see her entering the court.

Natasc
Apr 25th, 2005, 05:39 PM
Lucas, Masha has said she will play Moscow this year and is looking forward to it. :tennis: :)
of course... that her dad said for her say that

after all that her "no presence" in the tourny make last year...
they both (her and dad) should make something about it this year

very predictable reasons.....