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jelena4me
Dec 26th, 2004, 09:33 AM
8.9 on the richter scale apparently, the biggest quake in 40 years.
There must be loads more casualties not yet reported...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4125481.stm

jelena4me
Dec 26th, 2004, 09:52 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4125619.stm

jelena4me
Dec 26th, 2004, 10:06 AM
They are talking about 2,000 plus dead now

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40665000/gif/_40665113_detailedmap.gif

jelena4me
Dec 26th, 2004, 10:55 AM
The death toll will rise plenty more, there are loads of fishermen missing, and even reports of tourist divers missing.

Lord Chips
Dec 26th, 2004, 11:09 AM
Any word on whether Borneo was hit?

jelena4me
Dec 26th, 2004, 11:15 AM
Any word on whether Borneo was hit?
Not sure where Borneo is, but the areas Im hearing about where there are deaths are Maldives, Sri Lanka, India, Burma Thailand. The quake was in Sumatra

kikker
Dec 26th, 2004, 11:23 AM
:eek: i just saw it on the news

jochem
Dec 26th, 2004, 11:34 AM
Just saw it on the news....so horrible...I was in Phuket twice this time of the year, two years ago and three... So i know how primitive people live there near the beach. And those fisherman and divers who are missing, never to be found... :sad:

jelena4me
Dec 26th, 2004, 11:46 AM
This is going to be massive. There is still little news from Indonesia.

Tourist areas in Thailand are said to be devastated

bee
Dec 26th, 2004, 12:08 PM
8.9 earthquake... :(
I think Bali was spared...
But Phuket was devastated..
Especially Sri lanka and India.

Just very sad... :(

Vut
Dec 26th, 2004, 12:29 PM
Big news in Thailand!!!

:sad: Phuket, Thailand
:sad: Sri Lanka
:sad: India

Ting
Dec 26th, 2004, 12:35 PM
Oh no 8.9 on Richter Scale that is really strong:eek::sad:
Exactly a year after the Iran earthquake!

tfannis
Dec 26th, 2004, 12:49 PM
Horrible...so many casualties :sad:

fleemke
Dec 26th, 2004, 01:21 PM
I'm looking at the news now :eek: :sad: just horrible!

An eathquake, tidal wave's in India, ... :sad: already more than 3000 peoples are killed :(

flyingmachine
Dec 26th, 2004, 02:41 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

moby
Dec 26th, 2004, 02:50 PM
I'm looking at the news now :eek: :sad: just horrible!

An eathquake, tidal wave's in India, ... :sad: already more than 3000 peoples are killed :(
5600, says another report :sad:

Vut
Dec 26th, 2004, 03:00 PM
:eek: 5600 !!!!!
:sad: about 120 are Thai.

CC
Dec 26th, 2004, 03:43 PM
One of my co-workers from India went home for the holiday. I don't even know where he is from, but strange I am kinda worried now.

cadiac
Dec 26th, 2004, 05:32 PM
Now The number of dead in Thailand are 300 plus :crying:
What a sad news before new year........
Why the nature is so cruel :o :sad:

fleemke
Dec 26th, 2004, 06:15 PM
on belgian television they said already over 10 000 people killed :eek:

CondiLicious
Dec 26th, 2004, 08:02 PM
My cousin has been injured in Thailand. We think he's in a coma... His bestfriend called my Great-Aunt to let her know and she's 80 and we don't know if she's got some details confused. He was there meeting a woman he met over the internet... They were/are gonna get married sometime next year. He's more extended family so I wasn't that close to him... only met him a few times but I am close with members of my family that are going absolutely insane with worry right now. We were only joking about him yesterday... That he was there visiting his mail order bride :( How guilty do we feel today??? :rolleyes: It's not been a good 12 months for him. His wife died of cancer last Xmas...

esqumaux
Dec 26th, 2004, 08:32 PM
Yikes.

Hayato
Dec 26th, 2004, 08:40 PM
8,000 dead on Australian tv :sad: :tears:

pav
Dec 26th, 2004, 09:29 PM
Terrible isn't it? The 8.1 quake below New Zealand a couple of days ago was luckily too far away from anywhere to cause any damage,but this one is bigger and in a much worse position! I can see the toll rising a lot unfortunately

Hagar
Dec 26th, 2004, 10:28 PM
Two Belgians died in Phuket. A woman of 60 and (this is really sad) a baby of 10 months... :sad:
15 Belgians are missing...

Sam L
Dec 26th, 2004, 11:04 PM
India and Sri Lanka!!! :sad:

jbone_0307
Dec 27th, 2004, 01:03 AM
I have never seen a tsunami because on tv they just showed a couple of waves crashing onto shore, seemed like nothing to be so alarmed about. They said they were like 30 ft., that really scarry.

xin_hui
Dec 27th, 2004, 02:06 AM
its so close to home, its scary:sad: it could have hit singapore:sad:

over 11,000 killed...

Hayato
Dec 27th, 2004, 04:25 AM
apparently not just in Sri Lanka, also Maldives, Sumatra (Indonesia) Bangladesh, India, Thailand. :( :sad:

Also, apparently some waves were felt in Perth, Australia. :eek:

14,000 killed :eek: :bigcry:

Hayato
Dec 27th, 2004, 04:25 AM
6 Australians missing...

spyro
Dec 27th, 2004, 05:21 AM
Over 4500 Indonesian people killed by this Earthquake, this is the saddest day for us here in Indonesia :sad: ...

Jakarta and Bali is save from the Tsunami or Earthquake, because those location is far from the center of the earthquake ... 2 Provinces in Indonesia are on the biggest damages, Aceh dan North Sumatera ...

spyro
Dec 27th, 2004, 05:23 AM
Based on U.S. Geological (http://www.usgs.gov/) The scale of the Earthquake is revised to 9.0 Scale Rithcer from 8.9 .... and made it into the 4th biggest Earthquake since 1900

SpikeyAidanm
Dec 27th, 2004, 05:25 AM
I hope all the people from WTAWorld are ok.

sandg
speedster_
myapap_je
Vut
Hardiansf
koje
HotSpot
danielrosario
Pojana

etc

My prayers with you and your families.

Hayato
Dec 27th, 2004, 05:33 AM
You never really think about this kind of thing happening until it happens :sad:

spyro
Dec 27th, 2004, 05:56 AM
Some pictures from Province Aceh (Indonesia) :

http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-26-184526-1.jpg
http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-26-181102-1.jpg
http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-27-073528-1.jpg
http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-27-074006-1.jpg
http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-27-121936-1.jpg

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 27th, 2004, 06:32 AM
I actually mentioned to one of my friends about Tsunami last Wednesday when we went to beach and look at now, it's happened hit India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Maldives and Thailand. That's weird.

May of you guys know THE NET, a poster of this board who lives on Phuket. I hope he's OK over there.

bionic71
Dec 27th, 2004, 06:52 AM
I am waiting to here news of a work collegue and his wife who were holidaying on the Sri Lankan coast.... They have been there before, and I know that they often pitch a tent on the beach to sleep....I am very concerned.

Hagar
Dec 27th, 2004, 07:36 AM
There's no Tsunami warning system in that area... If there would have been one, the number of dead people should have been a lot lower...

James
Dec 27th, 2004, 07:46 AM
I hope all the people from WTAWorld are ok.

sandg
speedster_
myapap_je
Vut
Hardiansf
koje
HotSpot
danielrosario
Pojana

etc

My prayers with you and your families.
It's a terrible tragedy. I hope everyone's ok like Aidan said. My thoughts and prayers are with those affected.

kj-
Dec 27th, 2004, 09:59 AM
Any word on whether Borneo was hit?
Borneo is okay, it just hit sumatera the most west island of indonesia..

kj-
Dec 27th, 2004, 10:31 AM
I hope all the people from WTAWorld are ok.

sandg
speedster_
myapap_je
Vut
Hardiansf
koje
HotSpot
danielrosario
Pojana

etc

My prayers with you and your families.
i guess most of indonesian here are okay, because most of us are living in the island ov java, and it's quite far with the quakecentral.

the one that i worried about is Felix, he lives in Medan, North Sumatra, and it's close to the quakecentral... i hope he's just fine..

http://www.acehkita.com/images/albu...26-184526-1.jpg (http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-26-184526-1.jpg)
http://www.acehkita.com/images/albu...26-181102-1.jpg (http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-26-181102-1.jpg)
http://www.acehkita.com/images/albu...27-073528-1.jpg (http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-27-073528-1.jpg)
http://www.acehkita.com/images/albu...27-074006-1.jpg (http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-27-074006-1.jpg)
http://www.acehkita.com/images/albu...27-121936-1.jpg
these are very terrible thing, the quake is very deppressing, i just saw in TV how babies and toddler were being laid in a poor condition. their innocent face were full with mudd and its so heart touching..

Mr President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has declared these three days as mourning days..

I hope all of the victim will be rest in peace, and may God Bless Them all, I'm shocked and offer condolences.


Death toll:
India: 6,289
Sri Lanka: 5,880
Indonesia: 4,491
Thailand: 461
Malaysia: 44
Maldives: 32
Bangladesh: 2
Myanmar: 1
Total: 17,200

Alvarillo
Dec 27th, 2004, 10:39 AM
all my condolences for the people of these countries
6 Spaniards Missing, 13 wounded :sad:

esqumaux
Dec 27th, 2004, 10:40 AM
19,930...

SpikeyAidanm
Dec 27th, 2004, 10:41 AM
I am really worried about felix.

Chunchun
Dec 27th, 2004, 10:43 AM
10,000 killed in only Sri Lanka! :eek: incl 72 foeigner

cadiac
Dec 27th, 2004, 10:47 AM
I am really worried about felix.

Yeah!!!!
I hope felix OK......too

Alvarillo
Dec 27th, 2004, 11:04 AM
El sesmo afect a varias zonas urbanas de Aceh, Sumatra Norte y Aceh del Oeste, tres provincias del norte de la isla de Sumatra, as como a Medan para despus levantar olas de unos cinco metros e inund las casas ms cercanas a la costa. Segn las ltimas cifras oficiales emitidas por el Gobierno de Sumatra, 4.448 personas han fallecido, miles se encuentran desaparecidas y alrededor de 750.000 han resultado afectadas.

in this report says that Medan has been afected :scared:

kj-
Dec 27th, 2004, 11:32 AM
hope he is out the town.. but as i remember his hometown is in Medan and now he lives there..

Brαm
Dec 27th, 2004, 12:28 PM
Very shocking :sad:

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 27th, 2004, 12:33 PM
Felix actually live in Singapore, don't he?

Sam L
Dec 27th, 2004, 12:40 PM
Horrible! Just horrible! :sad:

Sam L
Dec 27th, 2004, 12:49 PM
You know what guys, as sad and unfortunate as this is, earthquakes are a sign from our planet telling us that it's alive. For if there are no earthquakes the planet will be dead and pretty much become another Mars.

So we need to keep that in perspective. I think the things to learn are that our lives are precarious so make the most of it.

xin_hui
Dec 27th, 2004, 01:11 PM
Felix actually live in Singapore, don't he?
isnt felix in singapore?:confused:

cadiac
Dec 27th, 2004, 01:48 PM
I just want you to know the sadest news in Thailand in this situation....

Grandson of Thai's King , Poom Jensen also dead while he was Jet-skiing with his younger sister :sad: but His sister just hurted....

xin_hui
Dec 27th, 2004, 01:53 PM
I just want you to know the sadest news in Thailand in this situation....

Grandson of Thai's King , Poom Jensen also dead while he was Jet-skiing with his younger sister :sad: but His sister just hurted....
yep, i saw this news. it's so sad:sad:

**Jelica**
Dec 27th, 2004, 02:13 PM
It's such a terrible thing to have happened..I feel very lucky today that I live in the UK where there are no earthquakes, and I'm so thankful for this. My heart and my thoughts go out to all the people affected my this tragedy :sad:. I really hope also that everyone on wtaworld is safe and that their families and friends are okay also. I'm really sorry, I don't know quite what to say, cos it's so sad and terrible :sad:

Paneru
Dec 27th, 2004, 02:54 PM
How tragic! :eek: :sad:

Here's an eyewitness account
from Nate Berkus:

A celebrity interior decorator vacationing in Sri Lanka said Monday that all he could see was "utter devastation" in the wake of a deadly tsunami that slammed the island. "We were completely devastated yesterday morning," Nate Berkus told CNN. "There was absolutely no warning." Berkus, a regular contributor to "The Oprah Winfrey Show," said he and a friend were sleeping in a beachfront cottage at Arugam Bay on Sri Lanka's eastern coast when he heard a loud noise and the roof was ripped off. Berkus, 33, said they were swept into the sea along with debris, animals and other people. The two grabbed a telephone pole, he said, but lost their grips when a second large wave hit. Berkus told CNN that he climbed onto the roof of a home; his friend was missing. Berkus said he and about 50 other survivors -- tourists and locals -- spent the rest of the night in a field, but were without water and food. Many of the group were injured, including a pregnant woman who had broken ribs, he said. Members of the Sri Lankan army had taken a few of the injured away in helicopters, he said, and told the rest of the group that other helicopters would arrive at sunrise. "It's just been utter devastation. Bodies everywhere," Berkus said. "I''m very scraped up, but luckily I''m OK ... against that kind of force of nature, there was nothing any of us could do." Berkus said that lost everything he had with him. "I''m sitting here with nothing -- no passport, no money, no anything, in shorts that somebody gave me ... the bottom line is, we desperately need help here." Berkus is the founder of Nate Berkus Associates in Chicago, Illinois. He has made at least 20 appearances on "Oprah."

Princess Fiona
Dec 27th, 2004, 03:14 PM
:sad:

My thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected by this awful tragedy. :sad: I hope that everyone from WTAworld and their loved ones are all okay. It's just so awful... :sad:

I've been thinking about a couple of people I've come across in my life (one from Indonesia and one from Thailand) - I very much hope that they are okay and their loved ones too.

I don't know what else to say...

Chunchun
Dec 27th, 2004, 03:45 PM
the news says that 20,000 is killed now, and half in SriLanka :scared:

kj-
Dec 27th, 2004, 03:50 PM
5000 were killed in Aceh and most of them are children.. :sad:

cadiac
Dec 27th, 2004, 03:56 PM
This is some pics from Thiiland

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/wahkor/topic/X3199355/X3199355-1.jpg

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/wahkor/topic/X3199355/X3199355-2.jpg

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/wahkor/topic/X3199355/X3199355-3.jpg

And this will show you the center of the quake....

http://www.pantip.com/cafe/chalermthai/topic/A3199198/A3199198-17.jpg

Vut
Dec 27th, 2004, 04:02 PM
:sad: NOW!! Tsunami killed 25000!!! ... 10000 are Sri Lanka, 900 are Thai (including tourist)!! :sad:
:sad: Phi Phi Island and Phuket !!

Vut
Dec 27th, 2004, 04:12 PM
My cousin has been injured in Thailand. We think he's in a coma... His bestfriend called my Great-Aunt to let her know and she's 80 and we don't know if she's got some details confused. He was there meeting a woman he met over the internet... They were/are gonna get married sometime next year. He's more extended family so I wasn't that close to him... only met him a few times but I am close with members of my family that are going absolutely insane with worry right now. We were only joking about him yesterday... That he was there visiting his mail order bride :( How guilty do we feel today??? :rolleyes: It's not been a good 12 months for him. His wife died of cancer last Xmas...
That so sad!! ... Hope it will be okay !

King Aaron
Dec 27th, 2004, 04:33 PM
the one that i worried about is Felix, he lives in Medan, North Sumatra, and it's close to the quakecentral... i hope he's just fine..
I am really worried about felix.
Felix actually live in Singapore, don't he?
isnt felix in singapore?:confused:
Felix is okay and safe. He is in Singapore by the way.

kj-
Dec 27th, 2004, 04:40 PM
Felix is okay and safe. He is in Singapore by the way.
Alhamdulillah he is okay.. once he told me that he had already get back to Medan.. sorry my fault... :)

Duramont
Dec 27th, 2004, 07:00 PM
The earth quake had a force of 8,9 on the Richter scale. The epicentre was 40 kilometers under the sealevel before the Nortwest coast of Sumatra.
This earthquake gave rise to the terrible tsunamis which were higher than ten meters (1 meter is ~40 inches).
The region which had the most victims was the popular Island Phuket which belongs to Thailand.

Here is a link for more news:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4126971.stm

It was the most terrible earthquake since 40 years! :o
Up to now there are more than 25000 victims in the region and the number is still rising! :sad: :sad:

2004 was a terrible year with all the hurricans and tsunamis in the USA, Japan and Bangladesh and this is the most awful of all the natural disasters! :o

Hagar
Dec 27th, 2004, 07:06 PM
Man, I've seen some of these video images and it really took everyone by surprise. The sea was not wild at all, just all of a sudden this WALL of water invaded the land.
Most cruel: all these children who died.

If people could have been warned, the number of fatalities would not have been so high.

There will still be a lot more fatalities. Don't dare to think about the final number of people who died.

Jorn
Dec 27th, 2004, 07:13 PM
atleast 23500 dead, 30000 in India missing :sad:

10 from Norway, 10 from Sweden and many missing, atleast 3 dead here from DK :sad:

there was 4500 tourist in the Thailand area from Nordic countries.

blerr
Dec 27th, 2004, 07:16 PM
My Dad's a teacher
and his friend and co-worker (my Kindergarten teacher:sad: ) , travelled down to India to visit family over Christmas.. I really hope she is okay, and her family too :sad:

pla
Dec 27th, 2004, 07:33 PM
OMG people, this is so horrible I can't even find words to say something coherent.

I just ask you to remember to give a little bit of money to the Red Cross or a simillar organisation. The foreigners will luckly go home but there are a lot of people who are in a terrible, terrible situation. Call the Red Cross and give something even if it's not much, we must help!

Alvarillo
Dec 27th, 2004, 08:15 PM
tsunamis also affected Kenya!!!

CharlDa
Dec 27th, 2004, 08:24 PM
:sad: I hope everyone from the board is ok....Horrible news!

Oleh
Dec 27th, 2004, 08:51 PM
This is truly awful.
If 20,000 are dead 100,000 have lost fathers, mothers, grand mothers, children, husbands, fiancees...

My prayers can only go out to them.

I am waitring to hear from an Israeli I know who is holidaying there, I hope everyone is alright.

jbone_0307
Dec 27th, 2004, 09:08 PM
23,000 dead

jbone_0307
Dec 27th, 2004, 09:14 PM
How in the hell can more people from India die, when the epicenter of the earthquake was closer to Indonesia?? The wavelength strength and crest would have decreased after traveling over a long distance.

:Rawwb:
Dec 27th, 2004, 09:50 PM
Because they are two Indian islands just north of the epicentre and thousands were killed their, they had no chance and of course they count as indians. Not to mention the tidal waves that hit south-eastern indian mainland provinces which were the first places the tidal wave came into contact with. It was going at such a force that it just overwhelmed so many people who just live on the coasts....it is easy to think how they died, although i wish i didnt have too

lauryn
Dec 27th, 2004, 11:41 PM
It's so painful watching the news and seeing these horrible images.... my condolences :sad:

Scotso
Dec 28th, 2004, 01:39 AM
This is the greatest tragedy since the earthquakes in Turkey :sad:

SpikeyAidanm
Dec 28th, 2004, 01:49 AM
danielrosario, really worried about him :sad:

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 28th, 2004, 01:53 AM
tsunamis also affected Kenya!!!
Today?

Harju.
Dec 28th, 2004, 02:00 AM
thanks people for worrying, but i'm fine.

my home though in Medan was hit by the earthquake. my parents would be flying here pretty soon because the home was in mess and my mom was like so messed up too. :lol:

xin_hui
Dec 28th, 2004, 03:06 AM
felix, so glad you are ok!:)

Just_lindsay
Dec 28th, 2004, 04:41 AM
I have friends who are honeymooning in the Seychelles right now and was relieved to hear that they were safe on higher ground when the swell arrived.

The tsunami didn't arrive until nine hours after the quake, but there was no warning.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 28th, 2004, 05:36 AM
Gah. An aquaintance of mine was actually living on a beach in Thailand until about 1 week ago. Not sure quite where in Thailand he was, so it might not have mattered anyways.

Regardless, this is horrific. I watched the scenes on the news, about a day after the fact. I'm a little out of the loop without net, but my father told me about it today :sad:

AUSBOY
Dec 28th, 2004, 09:54 AM
28,000 dead now :sad:

kj-
Dec 28th, 2004, 10:02 AM
tsunamis also affected Kenya!!!
100 fishermans of Somalia is missing while the earthquake happened..

flyingmachine
Dec 28th, 2004, 10:03 AM
28,000 dead now :sad:
:eek: This is very sad indeed. :sad:

kj-
Dec 28th, 2004, 10:23 AM
only 15% of citizen remain in Meulaboh, a city in west aceh

Brαm
Dec 28th, 2004, 12:12 PM
already 57,000 :eek: :help:

This must be the greatest disaster ever!

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 28th, 2004, 12:19 PM
That's deep shit! :sad:

Experimentee
Dec 28th, 2004, 12:27 PM
This is so sad, I saw on the news the bodies of so many children :sad:

The tsunami even hit Penang, my aunts and cousins were just about to go to the beach, but decided to go to a restaurant first, and it happened in that beach while they were at the restaurant. I'm just thankful they werent there. They got to the beach and saw dead bodies. The beach and some nearby restaurants were damaged. There is a stretch where there are large boulders instead of sand and a stone wall, and it was so powerful that the wall was broken and the rocks were thrown onto the road.

Much sympathy for all the victims and their families. I hope there are not too many more dead. We will be giving money to the relief fund and hopefully more people will so everyone can overcome this tragedy.

Mariangelina
Dec 28th, 2004, 12:31 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

All the victims and their families are in my prayers.

Alvarillo
Dec 28th, 2004, 01:30 PM
felix :)
only 18 Spaniards wounded , no one missing :)
more than 45.000 deaths :sad: :sad: :sad:
i will pray for them

Hagar
Dec 28th, 2004, 01:37 PM
It's horrible that there was no warning system. This should have avoided a lot of dead people.

firefly_ac
Dec 28th, 2004, 01:51 PM
It's horrible that there was no warning system. This should have avoided a lot of dead people.
Precisely! :(

Greenout
Dec 28th, 2004, 02:40 PM
Precisely! :(


It's not that simple. The countries involved are still
building their respective governments into something
stable to keep up with Western nations.

You can't expect or assume that a freak of nature this
big would happen. The chances of this to occur was so
low- that it was pushed back on the burner as an agenda
in countries simply trying to feed people.

It's so easy to finger point after the fact. It happened and
we can prevent it by putting it in place for these countries.

the cat
Dec 28th, 2004, 03:29 PM
What an absolute nightmare this story is. :sad:

Vut
Dec 28th, 2004, 03:45 PM
:eek: about 60000 dead!!...
19000 are Indonesian
1500 are Thai (the most are tourists!!)

Thai goverment cancel all new year celebration!!

:Rawwb:
Dec 28th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Oh jees, 60,000? Why has it suddenly risen so dramatically? Is it because of the people on Sumatra enitially didnt have contact so the authroitries didnt count the number of dead there? I guess as they had the full force of the earthquake and the Tsunami? Eugh, this is just terrible :'(

the cat
Dec 28th, 2004, 04:20 PM
The rising death toll is absolutely mind boggling! :eek: :(

I walked into a local 7-11 this morning and saw the beautiful Czech supermodel Petra Nemcova on their cover with her boyfriend. I immediately thought Petra had perished in this monumental tragedy. :( But it was her boyfriend along with many others who perished while Petra barely survived with a broken pelvis and serious internal injuries. I hope Petra can make a full recovery from such injuries and the psychological damage of having seeing her boyfriend Simon Atlee and many others swept away by the tsunami. :sad: Her amazing survival story is located at www.nydailynews.com/front/story/266012p-227820c.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/266012p-227820c.html)

I haven't bought a model's calendar in a few years. But because Petra is lovely, likable and low key compared to the average supermodel, I did buy her 2005 calendar a couple months ago. It's a fine calendar. :) But in an eerie coincidence her boyfriend Simon Atlee was the photgrapher for her calendar. :(

moby
Dec 28th, 2004, 04:48 PM
You can't expect or assume that a freak of nature this
big would happen. The chances of this to occur was so
low- that it was pushed back on the burner as an agenda
in countries simply trying to feed people.

It's so easy to finger point after the fact. It happened and
we can prevent it by putting it in place for these countries.
But this isn't even about an earthquake warning system. (other than in the case of indonesia) The tsunami took hours to reach Somalia and India... you'd figure that those few hours are enough time to evacuate the people on the coast.

TheBoiledEgg
Dec 28th, 2004, 04:54 PM
me back from my little break and this is just :sad: :(
omg those poor people didnt stand a chance :sad:

so many missing and dead :sad: :sad:

moby
Dec 28th, 2004, 05:01 PM
Scientists nearest the quake's epicentre knew shockwaves could create tidal surges that would threaten coastal regions and shipping, but said they had no way of measuring the size of the danger because a warning network like one used in the Pacific is not installed in the Indian Ocean.

India's Information Minister Dayanidhi Maran said his country would consider setting up a warning system, and Australian Prime Minister John Howard said he would investigate what role his country could play in the effort.
Japan's government also indicated it would lend expertise developed from the Pacific alert system that was started nearly 40 years ago.

The head of the Commonwealth, the bloc of Britain and its former colonies, called for talks on creating a global early warning system. Five Commonwealth countries - India, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Malaysia and Bangladesh - were among those struck on Sunday.

Indonesian officials said they had no way to know the earthquake caused the waves, known as tsunamis, or how dangerous they might be.

'Unfortunately, we have no equipment here that can warn about tsunamis,' said Mr Budi Waluyo, an official with Indonesia's Meteorology and Geophysics Agency. 'The instruments are very expensive and we don't have money to buy them.' -- AP

i got this from the straits times...

Iorhael
Dec 28th, 2004, 05:14 PM
already 57,000 :eek: :help:

This must be the greatest disaster ever!There were bigger disasters than this one, like an earthquake in Tangshan in 1976 (255 000 killed) in Japan in 1923(143 000) or flood in China in 1938(900 000 fatalities!:eek: )

korben
Dec 28th, 2004, 05:56 PM
only 18 Spaniards wounded , no one missing :)
Thats surprising. Becauce ie. 1500 swedes are missing and 200+ finns :sad:

And once again medias first numbers were ridicously low :(

raquel
Dec 28th, 2004, 06:49 PM
It's terrible. It's almost hard to comprehend so many people dying at once :sad: :sad: My prayers go to everyone there.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Dec 28th, 2004, 07:21 PM
Very sad occurence.

I've already had a sick e-mail joke from an unknown source.

Just remember tonight, when you slip into bed how lucky we are.

Oleh
Dec 28th, 2004, 08:11 PM
"It's horrible that there was no warning system. This should have avoided a lot of dead people."

-I read quite angrily, that Thailand did have warning systems BUT the scientists didnt think the threat was strong enough and Thai Tourism ministry tells them that a false warning on a natural disaster which dosnt end up happening must be avoided at all costs as it will "Harm Thailands tourist industry". There will be explaining to do when the greif clears and turns to anger. 1 life too many was lost when 1 life could have been saved even with the smallest of warning which did not happen for fear of ECONOMIC reasons. Pathetic and disgusting. I will try find the link.

Richie77
Dec 28th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Hard to imagine now 60,000 people have died...that's the size of a medium-sized city :eek: :sad:

The Thai Tourism didn't use a warning system because it would hurt tourism? Ridiculous. If someone thinks there is the remotest possibility of such a horrible natural disaster, people need to be warned!! People here always roll their eyes whenever our local TV stations make such a big deal about a potential snowstorm, but it's better to warn people and have no snow then not warn people and have two feet of snow.

I agree...the tourism ministry must be held accountable if it's true that it squelched the warnings.

Rocketta
Dec 28th, 2004, 08:32 PM
You know it's all too horrible, all too sad. It's just overwhelming in it's enormity. To see the numbers keep going up and up. :tears: My prayers are with everyone over there. I mean the survivors are going to be tramatized for a long time. Let the healing begin.

Man, Oprah and millions of her watches would've been devastated if Nate Berkus was killed.. :tears: I can't imagine seeing your friends, family, loved ones die in front of you and then have to wait hours for help while watching dead bodies float by. :tears: :tears:

all too sad.....:bigcry:

korben
Dec 28th, 2004, 08:35 PM
Heard from some news channel that last year in Asian leaders meeting, area wide alarm system was proposed, but it got rejected because it would have cost too much :sad:

60.000 and rising. :sad: Might have been false but I remember spotting somewhere that there are still 100.000 missing in Indonesia alone :confused: :speakles:

F-R-E-A-K
Dec 28th, 2004, 10:15 PM
This is horrible. Really Horrible. 60,000 and rising.

Indonesia & Sri Lanka worst hit :cry:

salima
Dec 28th, 2004, 10:27 PM
Thats surprising. Becauce ie. 1500 swedes are missing and 200+ finns :sad:

And once again medias first numbers were ridicously low :(
800 Norwegians are missing.

and how many local inhabitants around the ocean,.............. unfortunately there is no use even guessing.

(no smiley can represent what to say )

daniela86
Dec 28th, 2004, 10:29 PM
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: my sincere condolences
some of them were already very poor and lived miserably, now that terrible thing happened...omg sometimes live is really really sad and unfair :sad:

Belgium = Best
Dec 28th, 2004, 10:39 PM
:sad:

lauryn
Dec 28th, 2004, 11:12 PM
Heard from some news channel that last year in Asian leaders meeting, area wide alarm system was proposed, but it got rejected because it would have cost too much :sad:yeah, I heard that too :sad: if only...

The number of casualties keeps raising, I'm afraid this won't change the first few days :sad:

Three Belgians haven't survived this tragedy, a 2 month old baby, a one year old baby and a 59 year old woman :sad: :sad: :sad:

at least 13 other Belgians still missing...

Harju.
Dec 28th, 2004, 11:16 PM
this is just so wrong. one of my friend and his family went to phuket tfor holiday. i have yet to hear the news from them. damn, i hope they are all right. i need to call the MDF centre later. i'm just worried.

korben
Dec 29th, 2004, 01:42 AM
Some numbers

Estimate of the power that was released in the quake = 32.000.000.000.000 kilos of TNT (over 600x more than ie. Los Angeles 1994) :eek:
http://www.seismo.unr.edu/ftp/pub/louie/class/100/magnitude.html

US geological institute estimates that northern part of Sumatra was moved 35 meters to the west :eek:

Smaller islands around Sumatra moved about 20 meters.
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041227-092017-3455r.htm

Quake might have effected earths rotation so that days are now fraction of second shorter than they used to be :eek:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20041229/sc_nm/quake_usa_earth_dc

bionic71
Dec 29th, 2004, 06:04 AM
Still no news from my friend and his wife in Sri Lanka.....I am starting to fear the worst now.

Chunchun
Dec 29th, 2004, 10:34 AM
the news says 70,000 are killed now :bolt:

kj-
Dec 29th, 2004, 01:12 PM
guys, maybe if you want to participate, you can go to www.care.org (http://www.care.org) or www.unicef.org (http://www.unicef.org)
maybe donating is the only way we can do.. maybe this is not very important, but i'm just trying to help all my "brothers and sisters" there... :sad:

galadriel
Dec 29th, 2004, 01:24 PM
I'm so sad :sad: I also will donate money .It's the only thing I can do.

:Rawwb:
Dec 29th, 2004, 01:30 PM
In our country Oxfam raised 200K in one day for the disaster, which is a record. it shows atleast that there are a lot of caring people in a country. there are so many british tourists in the affected areas that its just sad to keep thinking about it. Richard Attenborough, director of Ghandi and other famous films as well as acting in the Jurassic Park movies has lost his 14-year-old grandaughter who died instantly , his daughter and her mother in-law are both missing. Its just so sad :sad:

TheBoiledEgg
Dec 29th, 2004, 01:41 PM
Asian disaster: How to help

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40672000/jpg/_40672407_aid203ap.jpg Aid is already arriving in areas affected by Sunday's earthquake



Global aid organisations have launched urgent appeals for donations to help survivors of Sunday's Indian Ocean earthquake disaster.

More than 60,000 people were killed in the sea surges.

Many governments and organisations - including the US, Canada, Australia, the EU and the UN - are sending aid.

The UN has warned that supplies are urgently needed to support the survivors and to try and prevent disease which, it says, could double the death toll.

The Disasters Emergency Committee - www.dec.org.uk - is an umbrella group of UK aid organisations - including ActionAid, British Red Cross, Oxfam - working to provide clean water, food and shelter to thousands.

The United Nations World Food Programme - www.wfp.org - is seeking donations to feed victims of the earthquake.

Medecins Sans Frontieres - www.msf.org - is sending aid workers to the region, focusing on medical care for survivors and displaced people after the rescue operations.

Oxfam - www.oxfam.org.uk - is providing emergency supplies, including water tanks, pumps, taps and temporary toilets for families left homeless by the floods. The charity raised 600,000 in the three days after the disaster, including 200,000 on Tuesday - the most it has raised in one day.

Islamic Relief - www.islamic-relief.com - has also launched an appeal to provide medical supplies, tents and sanitation facilities for those affected.

The United Nations Children's Fund, Unicef - www.unicef.org - is working to meet the "urgent needs of hundreds of thousands of people" affected by the tsunami disaster.

Save the Children - www.savethechildren.org.uk - has already flown a plane out to Sri Lanka carrying plastic sheeting for temporary shelter, tents to run children's services from, and essentials such as clothing and cooking utensils.

Anti-poverty organisation Care International - www.care.org - has already provided food for thousands of affected people in Sri Lanka.

Cafod, the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development - www.cafod.org.uk - is working with partners across Asia to provide shelter, food aid and medical assistance, and assessing what further relief is needed.

UK residents can donate via the British Red Cross - www.redcross.org.uk - which has launched an appeal to fund supplies including blankets and cooking utensils.

Medair - www.medair.org - is providing emergency support to agencies with a long term presence in Sri Lanka and its medical experts are assessing the likelihood of malaria and diarrhoea.

World Vision - www.worldvision.org.uk - has also launched an appeal and has already delivered relief goods to thousands.

Christian Aid - www.christianaid.org.uk - has already allocated 250,000 from its emergency fund to help the victims of this disaster but says more money is needed.

Christian charity Tearfund - www.tearfund.org - and its partners in Sri Lanka and India are helping devastated fishing communities and coastal villages get back on their feet.

Concern - www.concern.net - is working with local partners to meet the needs of families in the devastated coastal villages of Tamil Nadu, the worst affected state in India.

The International Rescue Committee - www.theirc.org - is providing emergency supplies and materials to "people most affected by the crisis".

Muslim Aid - www.muslimaid.org - has already donated 100,000 towards the purchase of food, clothing and medicine in the region but wants to raise more. Asia Quake Relief Appeal UK, a UK-based Sri Lankan organisation, is also raising money and can be emailed at asia-quakerelief@europe.com You can donate to all the campaigns via their websites.

Hantuchov
Dec 29th, 2004, 02:22 PM
:sad:

I really hope the guys from the board who live in that region and also their families are safe

My prayers for them

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2004, 02:29 PM
Asian disaster: How to help

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40672000/jpg/_40672407_aid203ap.jpg Aid is already arriving in areas affected by Sunday's earthquake



Global aid organisations have launched urgent appeals for donations to help survivors of Sunday's Indian Ocean earthquake disaster.

More than 60,000 people were killed in the sea surges.

Many governments and organisations - including the US, Canada, Australia, the EU and the UN - are sending aid.

The UN has warned that supplies are urgently needed to support the survivors and to try and prevent disease which, it says, could double the death toll.

The Disasters Emergency Committee - www.dec.org.uk - is an umbrella group of UK aid organisations - including ActionAid, British Red Cross, Oxfam - working to provide clean water, food and shelter to thousands.

The United Nations World Food Programme - www.wfp.org - is seeking donations to feed victims of the earthquake.

Medecins Sans Frontieres - www.msf.org - is sending aid workers to the region, focusing on medical care for survivors and displaced people after the rescue operations.

Oxfam - www.oxfam.org.uk - is providing emergency supplies, including water tanks, pumps, taps and temporary toilets for families left homeless by the floods. The charity raised 600,000 in the three days after the disaster, including 200,000 on Tuesday - the most it has raised in one day.

Islamic Relief - www.islamic-relief.com - has also launched an appeal to provide medical supplies, tents and sanitation facilities for those affected.

The United Nations Children's Fund, Unicef - www.unicef.org - is working to meet the "urgent needs of hundreds of thousands of people" affected by the tsunami disaster.

Save the Children - www.savethechildren.org.uk - has already flown a plane out to Sri Lanka carrying plastic sheeting for temporary shelter, tents to run children's services from, and essentials such as clothing and cooking utensils.

Anti-poverty organisation Care International - www.care.org - has already provided food for thousands of affected people in Sri Lanka.

Cafod, the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development - www.cafod.org.uk - is working with partners across Asia to provide shelter, food aid and medical assistance, and assessing what further relief is needed.

UK residents can donate via the British Red Cross - www.redcross.org.uk - which has launched an appeal to fund supplies including blankets and cooking utensils.

Medair - www.medair.org - is providing emergency support to agencies with a long term presence in Sri Lanka and its medical experts are assessing the likelihood of malaria and diarrhoea.

World Vision - www.worldvision.org.uk - has also launched an appeal and has already delivered relief goods to thousands.

Christian Aid - www.christianaid.org.uk - has already allocated 250,000 from its emergency fund to help the victims of this disaster but says more money is needed.

Christian charity Tearfund - www.tearfund.org - and its partners in Sri Lanka and India are helping devastated fishing communities and coastal villages get back on their feet.

Concern - www.concern.net - is working with local partners to meet the needs of families in the devastated coastal villages of Tamil Nadu, the worst affected state in India.

The International Rescue Committee - www.theirc.org - is providing emergency supplies and materials to "people most affected by the crisis".

Muslim Aid - www.muslimaid.org - has already donated 100,000 towards the purchase of food, clothing and medicine in the region but wants to raise more. Asia Quake Relief Appeal UK, a UK-based Sri Lankan organisation, is also raising money and can be emailed at asia-quakerelief@europe.com You can donate to all the campaigns via their websites.


I must stress that people who are donating money should not donate to Christian charities. You should donate to Non-government organisations which do not have any religious affiliations like Red Cross and Medicins Sans Frontiers (Doctorws without borders). Christian charties do help people, but for them converting people to Christianity comes first. Not helping them. Just remember that.

korben
Dec 29th, 2004, 02:37 PM
I must stress that people who are donating money should not donate to Christian charities. You should donate to Non-government organisations which do not have any religious affiliations like Red Cross and Medicins Sans Frontiers (Doctorws without borders). Christian charties do help people, but for them converting people to Christianity comes first. Not helping them. Just remember that.
Good point :yeah:

Red Cross got my little help.

kj-
Dec 29th, 2004, 02:54 PM
thanks for WTAWorld for such being a carefull board that pay attention to the world tragedy, like WTAWorld Peace campaign in the past and now, this tsunamis.. :)

Wiggly
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:01 PM
In the Front Page of my news papers, there are 4 childrens from Sri lAnka, India, Thailand and ....Swedish (this little boy have a sheet in his hand written" Wante my parents and my 2 brothers")

When I saw the Swedish pics, it's :speakles:

No comments....

Mathijs
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:06 PM
In the Front Page of my news papers, there are 4 childrens from Sri lAnka, India, Thailand and ....Swedish (this little boy have a sheet in his hand written" Wante my parents and my 2 brothers")

When I saw the Swedish pics, it's :speakles:

No comments....
yeah i saw that pics also :sad:

i'm so speechless and sad about this :sad: :sad: :speakles:

my thoughts go out to all those who lost their beloved ones in the disaster, and may god be those ppl who lost their homes and families :sad:

Wiggly
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:07 PM
I actually mentioned to one of my friends about Tsunami last Wednesday when we went to beach and look at now, it's happened hit India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Maldives and Thailand. That's weird.

May of you guys know THE NET, a poster of this board who lives on Phuket. I hope he's OK over there.

GOSH :eek: :eek:

13 Canadians are "suposse" to be died :sad: (70 donyt' finded, don't know where they are)
54 Swedish died
49 Germans died
43 Britishs died
20 Americans
12 Frenchs

Czech Supermodel Petra Nemcova survives during 10 hours! She was "hang" to a tree! During 10 hours! WOW! Her BF is :confused:

korben
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:20 PM
Only good news regarding this desaster

No animals found dead (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/041229/80/f9c58.html)

Wiggly
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:28 PM
Only good news regarding this desaster

No animals found dead (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/041229/80/f9c58.html)

I already knows then animals senses a disaster before that happend but this is :eek:

Last Canadians news said 82 000 dieds :eek: :eek:

Mathijs
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:29 PM
GOSH :eek: :eek:

13 Canadians are "suposse" to be died :sad: (70 donyt' finded, don't know where they are)
54 Swedish died
49 Germans died
43 Britishs died
20 Americans
12 Frenchs

Czech Supermodel Petra Nemcova survives during 10 hours! She was "hang" to a tree! During 10 hours! WOW! Her BF is :confused:
to add

9 Dutch :sad: :sad: :sad:

No good info bout how much Dutch are missing....

grmbl
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:35 PM
In the Front Page of my news papers, there are 4 childrens from Sri lAnka, India, Thailand and ....Swedish (this little boy have a sheet in his hand written" Wante my parents and my 2 brothers")

When I saw the Swedish pics, it's :speakles:

No comments....

Do you mean this one?


http://www.ad.nl/images/316thailandzweedsjongetje.jpg

:sad: :sad: :sad:

hythger
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:40 PM
So sad... :sad:
there are 8 portuguese missing...one of them a 8 month baby that was taken from her mothers arms by a wave...
our thoughts are qith the families

Wiggly
Dec 29th, 2004, 03:54 PM
Do you mean this one?


http://www.ad.nl/images/316thailandzweedsjongetje.jpg

:sad: :sad: :sad:

Yeah :sad: I hope his family is Ok and try to find him!
This is the shockiest pic I ever seen

grmbl
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Yeah :sad: I hope his family is Ok and try to find him!
This is the shockiest pic I ever seen
For me too.. You can see the sadness in his eyes.. :sad:

Harju.
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:06 PM
K, still no news from my fren :(. And found out that one of the small island near my hometown, Medan, Nias Island was almost drowned. One of my friend went back there for holiday and still no news to from her. This is soooo bad. :sobbing:. I hope she's alright. :sad:

Wiggly
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:08 PM
Many kids died :o

From 80 000 victims, 1/3 are kids :eek:

Wiggly
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:12 PM
']K, still no news from my fren :(. And found out that one of the small island near my hometown, Medan, Nias Island was almost drowned. One of my friend went back there for holiday and still no news to from her. This is soooo bad. :sobbing:. I hope she's alright. :sad:

There are somes Medan pics on GettyImages... :eek:

Vut
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:22 PM
So sad :sad::sad:

raquel
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:41 PM
The news just gets worse every day :sad: There was a woman on the news today saying that there may be a danger that people in the West may think of it as being too far away to help and that we may not see it as our problem. A man sitting next to her totally dismissed it and said she underestimated the goodness in people to help when it's needed, no matter where in the world a tragedy is happening and I think he is right, especially judging by the record amounts Oxfam are getting. I think everyone can do their bit to help as it is going to cost billions just to rebuild whole cities and towns.

korben
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:43 PM
This is the shockiest pic I ever seenWARNING NOT FOR FAINT HEARTED

For me it is This one (http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1879/ruumiita4ft.jpg)

:sad: :sad: :sad:

Please, do not click if you are easily shocked.

:Rawwb:
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:45 PM
omg are thos rotting corpses? :SAD:

xr6turbo
Dec 29th, 2004, 04:56 PM
:eek: :sad:

FedererFan84
Dec 29th, 2004, 05:06 PM
What a tremendously tragic event that happened. It kind of makes you think that, maybe if it can happen there in Asia, a disaster could happen anywhere else in the world -- Canada, Mexico, France or even a more populous country like China. This is devastating.

esqumaux
Dec 29th, 2004, 05:09 PM
Deathed.

grmbl
Dec 29th, 2004, 05:28 PM
another heartbreaking pic....

http://www.ad.nl/images/316nederlandmarkthorstTHAILANDTIDAL14.jpg

Chrissie-fan
Dec 29th, 2004, 05:56 PM
I'm told that in 1931 in China 3,7 million people lost their lives in a flood.

already 57,000 :eek: :help:

This must be the greatest disaster ever!

fleemke
Dec 29th, 2004, 06:27 PM
I just saw some images from a dutchman who was filming the waves ... I can only watch it with my mouth open :sad:

Kart
Dec 29th, 2004, 07:18 PM
I can't bear to read any of this thread. My brother was in the area and so close to the disaster but fortunately okay.

My thoughts are with any people affected by this tragedy.

sarza
Dec 29th, 2004, 07:25 PM
So devastating, just seeing those pictures is so upsetting :sad:

ans
Dec 29th, 2004, 08:06 PM
It's horrible and so shocking.

I've got a friend in Sri Lanka, a poor but incredibly sweet girl who has no telephone or anything so I have no idea how to reach her. I just have to wait for a letter which might never come.
Do we have any Srilankan members on this board? I guess not.

Golinds
Dec 29th, 2004, 08:10 PM
WARNING NOT FOR FAINT HEARTED

For me it is This one (http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1879/ruumiita4ft.jpg)

:sad: :sad: :sad:

Please, do not click if you are easily shocked.

OMG that picture is so :eek: :sad: you could actually see a little baby among the dead. :sad: :sad: :sad:

this is a really bad thing to happen, it will go down in the records as one of the worst disasters in history. :sad: :sad: :sad:

Minami
Dec 29th, 2004, 08:10 PM
GOSH :eek: :eek:

13 Canadians are "suposse" to be died :sad: (70 donyt' finded, don't know where they are)
54 Swedish died
49 Germans died
43 Britishs died
20 Americans
12 Frenchs

Czech Supermodel Petra Nemcova survives during 10 hours! She was "hang" to a tree! During 10 hours! WOW! Her BF is :confused:

14 italians died.

600 italians are missing. :sad:

Wiggly
Dec 29th, 2004, 08:14 PM
Now, I can't watch another pic from Asia...

Terrible!

babolat#1
Dec 29th, 2004, 09:16 PM
Do you mean this one?


http://www.ad.nl/images/316thailandzweedsjongetje.jpg

:sad: :sad: :sad:
I hope he will finds his family :sad: :sad: He is young, he can't lost all his family

Oleh
Dec 29th, 2004, 09:24 PM
OMG that picture is so :eek: :sad: you could actually see a little baby among the dead. :sad: :sad: :sad:



That is horrible but the wost ive seen is of a dead man who is frozen still with his eyes open and arm outsetretched.

I think what is in the left hand corner is the body of a dog. Its limbs are not human as it seems to have paws.

flyingmachine
Dec 29th, 2004, 10:27 PM
This is very sad indeed. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: I donated some money to the British Red Cross.
Anyway this is possiblily the worst disasters in our time. :sad:

flyingmachine
Dec 29th, 2004, 10:28 PM
WARNING NOT FOR FAINT HEARTED

For me it is This one (http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1879/ruumiita4ft.jpg)

:sad: :sad: :sad:

Please, do not click if you are easily shocked.
It looks like the end of the world that kind of thing. :eek: :sad:

OUT!
Dec 29th, 2004, 10:42 PM
This thread is becoming increasingly mawkish. That said, donate to your local charities if you can.

Hagar
Dec 29th, 2004, 11:27 PM
A lot of Germans, Australians and Scandinavians are missing. A lot of them are probably dead...
If one sees the videos of the wave, it's actually unbelievable that some people survived this. Water destroys everything.

Wiggly
Dec 29th, 2004, 11:32 PM
I saw videos too, water speed was amazing :eek: we are "lucky" the "only" 80 000 persons died because thata was just :eek:

korben
Dec 30th, 2004, 12:13 AM
I saw videos too, water speed was amazing :eek: we are "lucky" the "only" 80 000 persons died because thata was just :eek:I would say that number nearly doubles. :sad: First reports from Indonesia were 200 dead :confused: How on earth could they publish such number ? Hit by 9.0 quake and minutes later Tsunami. That part of region is in so bad shape that it is unimaginable. Even after seeing some pictures from there.

Can only hope that they get fresh water there latest today.

Also Indian number does not include Nicobar and Andaman victims. Those have been under constant after shocks. (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.html) Thailand 1.600 official number, will go up too.

beauty_is_pink
Dec 30th, 2004, 12:40 AM
many coldences to all the decease, injured, and loved ones of anyone who has been a victim. :sad:

it's such a tragedy...
times like this makes us in such awe of what mother nature is capable of...

Rohin.
Dec 30th, 2004, 03:51 AM
It's always hard to know what to say.. all you can do is pray for those people & there familys (even though im not usualy the praying kind)

I'm so pissed off :sad:

Can we volenteer to help out ? because i would really like to do that in some way.

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 30th, 2004, 05:46 AM
WARNING NOT FOR FAINT HEARTED

For me it is This one (http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1879/ruumiita4ft.jpg)

:sad: :sad: :sad:

Please, do not click if you are easily shocked.
Man, they're everywhere! :sad: That must be worst natural diseaster in our time! :sad: I don't know what to say... :sad:

Hachiko
Dec 30th, 2004, 05:57 AM
http://smileys.******************/cat/36/36_1_44.gif

Hayato
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:26 AM
that pic korben posted is disturbing, but it makes me understand more.

This is just truly shocking and the biggest disaster i have ever seen :bigcry:

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:34 AM
that pic korben posted is disturbing, but it makes me understand more.

This is just truly shocking and the biggest disaster i have ever seen :bigcry:
Yeah, me too. I thought 60,000 seems wrong to me but that picture makes me understand more.

jelena4me
Dec 30th, 2004, 07:27 AM
Some authorities are predicting a toll in excess of 100,000 now

I thought this quote, taken from BBCNews website,was interesting:

"These figures about deaths are only count of bodies in hospitals, but we can see bodies everywhere on roads, inside buildings, buses, trains and even in the sea. Thousands of people and hundreds of vehicles are in the sea and we can still see floating buses in deep sea. "
D. Indika, Colombo, Sri Lanka


I also see that they have issued a tsunami warning in India, and people are leaving the coast...........

jbone_0307
Dec 30th, 2004, 07:37 AM
Horrible picture!!What kind of got me upset was how one citizen was criticizing the US on relief, when we have donated the most money. Why arent they asking their friendly neighbors to the north for relief. What do you mean a tsunami warning, its already over right?? Was there an aftershock or something??

jbone_0307
Dec 30th, 2004, 07:47 AM
There was an aftershock of a 6, but not powerful enough to create a violent current.

jelena4me
Dec 30th, 2004, 07:51 AM
What do you mean a tsunami warning, its already over right?? Was there an aftershock or something??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4133993.stm

Hachiko
Dec 30th, 2004, 09:13 AM
This is probably some of the worst news I have heard in my life.
It is so disturbing.

spyro
Dec 30th, 2004, 10:09 AM
http://www.islamonline.net/english/alhadth/2004/12/27/images/02-10.jpg

A Mother who lost her child in Aceh, Indonesia .... :sad:

kj-
Dec 30th, 2004, 10:14 AM
the refugees in aceh started to being stress and it could cause crazyness.. :sad:

spyro
Dec 30th, 2004, 10:21 AM
Indonesia Tsunami Death Toll until this morning 45,268 :sad:
thank you WTAworld for making this thread as an Important Thread :) (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_as//tsunami/13840409/*http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041230/ap_on_re_as/tsunami&cid=514&ncid=514)

Cilla
Dec 30th, 2004, 12:00 PM
WARNING NOT FOR FAINT HEARTED

For me it is This one (http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1879/ruumiita4ft.jpg)

:sad: :sad: :sad:

Please, do not click if you are easily shocked.This is horrendous :sad: :sad: :sad:

I never would've believed that the world would witness a natural disaster like this :sad: :sad: :sad:

:sad: for all the individuals, men, women and children who lost their lives and condolences to all the families destroyed by this disaster :sad: :sad:

Thank god for those who managed to survive and hoping for the people that are still missing.

bee
Dec 30th, 2004, 01:34 PM
115,100 dead...
Indonesia alone...-79,940 dead.
Entire villages were wiped out in some remote areas of Indonesia. :(
They showed a helicopter landing on the ground... but not many people were there to greet them...

spyro
Dec 30th, 2004, 02:38 PM
115,100 dead...
Indonesia alone...-79,940 dead.
Entire villages were wiped out in some remote areas of Indonesia. :(
They showed a helicopter landing on the ground... but not many people were there to greet them...
I think this helicopter landed on Meulaboh where more than 80% of the city is destroyed by the Tsunami ...... and people that survived are less then the people that killed by the Tsunami :sad:

Vut
Dec 30th, 2004, 02:58 PM
:eek: about 4000 dead in Thailand...

Chunchun
Dec 30th, 2004, 03:35 PM
118000 killed from news :scared:

incl 2 HK ppl :sad:

Wiggly
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:25 PM
120 000 victims!

I saw a new video but this time, that more slow...and that was seems not dangerous :confused: :confused:

VeeDaQueen
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:28 PM
this is deeply saddening. i hope that diseases don't spread around like many news people are saying

Wiggly
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:34 PM
I heard then a "bad alert" in India for news tsunamis (smallers) creta a huge panic in th streets but no tusnamis arrives finally...

spyro
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:37 PM
118000 killed from news :scared:

incl 2 HK ppl :sad:
and morethan 80,000 are from Indonesia :sad: it's so sad .... please help us, we need you guys from all over the world.
Go to www.cnn.com/quake (http://www.cnn.com/quake) you can see there how to donate, or maybe you can donate to UNICEF near you ...
We already have Australia, US, UAE, IRAN, and many more that given the helps, but we still need a lot more .... millions of people in Aceh, Indonesia lose their house, family, they don't have anything beside the clothes they wear .... :sad:

gentenaire
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:37 PM
Horrible picture!!What kind of got me upset was how one citizen was criticizing the US on relief, when we have donated the most money.

Considering the US is spending 177 million dollars every day on the Iraq war, this 35 million is nothing!
But never mind that, it's not a competition about who gives the most and most of my American friends have donated money, so it's certainly not the American people who are stingy.
I also suppose the US will give much more than those 35 million, Spain alone is giving more. Those figures CNN released yesterday are probably wrong.

Anyway, this is a real tragedy and I hope all that money gets to those places where it's most needed.

spyro
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:44 PM
I heard then a "bad alert" in India for news tsunamis (smallers) creta a huge panic in th streets but no tusnamis arrives finally...
It was also happen in Aceh (Indonesia), actually it was a usual things that the water from the sea get to land .... but the people in that area are still in shock, they become paranoid ... so they think it could be another huge tsunami ... :sad: :sad: :sad: I see on tv they move from their village ... to go to the capital city of the province .... they don't have anything, we can't see smile in their face, only tears that we can see ... :sad:

gentenaire
Dec 30th, 2004, 04:50 PM
It was also happen in Aceh (Indonesia), actually it was a usual things that the water from the sea get to land .... but the people in that area are still in shock, they become paranoid ... so they think it could be another huge tsunami ... :sad: :sad: :sad: I see on tv they move from their village ... to go to the capital city of the province .... they don't have anything, we can't see smile in their face, only tears that we can see ... :sad:

This is so heartbreaking. I visited Indonesia a few years ago and what impressed me was how sweet the people were. One of my best friends goes to Indonesia about once a year on average, always a different area, he often explores unexplored areas, places where he was the first tourist in 7 years! He speaks the language as well, loves the place so much.
Indonesia doesn't deserve this. I think it'll be easier for the Thais to get over this, they're richer, can rebuild a lot faster, it won't be so easy for Sumatra :sad:

spyro
Dec 30th, 2004, 05:06 PM
This is so heartbreaking. I visited Indonesia a few years ago and what impressed me was how sweet the people were. One of my best friends goes to Indonesia about once a year on average, always a different area, he often explores unexplored areas, places where he was the first tourist in 7 years! He speaks the language as well, loves the place so much.
Indonesia doesn't deserve this. I think it'll be easier for the Thais to get over this, they're richer, can rebuild a lot faster, it won't be so easy for Sumatra :sad:
Thanks....

I can see that Germany is really care about what happen here in Indonesia, because this whole day TV ARD sending the news live from from Aceh, Indonesia using satellite ....

I hope CNN and MSNBC will tell more about what happen in Indonesia, i'm chatting with my friends in New York now, and he needs more information about what happen in Indonesia ....

korben
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:05 PM
My thoughts/views of how this whole thing developed. (National point of view..., sorry about that)

26th - all finns are fine....
27th - some might be missing, 1 dead
28th - plenty missing, 4 dead
29th - Thailand reports 14 dead, Presidents address to nation, 4 death, those missing might be ok....Death toll MIGHT rise (**** :mad: stay out of tv if you don t have anything to say)
30th - KRP (= ie. CIA) Released 120+ name list of those that are missing, likely dead. Some 150+ names to add. (40+ police officers trying to put faces to names, contact relatives etc.)

Despite this being nations worst catastrof outside of wars, it feels like we got lucky. Compared to our neigbours Sweden. Even their PM is talking of 1000+ victims. :shrug: :sad:

Scrolling down of list of 200+ names, presumed dead, can only give glimpse of what our forfathers/mothers had to go through.

Well that is european point of view, sorry again. Sure there were like 25.000 casualties in Sri Lanka alone but it is much easier to relate to those that names are familiar. :sad: (too familiar... )

PointBlank
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:14 PM
:sad:..

:Rawwb:
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:38 PM
People in our country raised 20 million pounds in days - i am so proud that there are so many people in our country who are not thinking about themselves and willing to donate to these stricken people. Also our governments has no pledged to give something like 30million pounds too.

Wiggly
Dec 30th, 2004, 06:56 PM
A good news!

A Swedish baby (but not the Swedish then everybody saw the pic here) (of 18 months who can't talk), anyway, his uncle see him in a pic, and and reconyze him (his name(baby) is Hannes Bergstroem) and yesterday, the baby find his father but his mother is :confused: :sad:

CC
Dec 30th, 2004, 07:02 PM
"I had not thought death had undone so many"

spyro
Dec 30th, 2004, 07:15 PM
Maria Sharapova that will play in an exhibition match in Thailand, January 2nd is going to donate around $US 10,000 to the victims in Thailand ... I hope Angelique Widjaja will campaign to another tennis player to Donate for the victims in Indonesia

korben
Dec 30th, 2004, 07:46 PM
Horrible picture!!What kind of got me upset was how one citizen was criticizing the US on relief, when we have donated the most money. Well, if your media releases name list of 1000+ country mates. Missing - feared dead.

Even they would realize what has happened.

That is just a number and it is lower than 11/9 number so why would they care :confused:

Last, I m starting to hope that someone assasinates their current precident. Has he heard of United Nations ? Rest of the world thinks he hasnt. :(
Forming coalision of helping ........... :mad: No words ...

F-R-E-A-K
Dec 30th, 2004, 09:34 PM
118,000 dead now :(


This is absolutely horrible.

lauryn
Dec 30th, 2004, 10:27 PM
and morethan 80,000 are from Indonesia :sad: it's so sad .... please help us, we need you guys from all over the world.
Go to www.cnn.com/quake (http://www.cnn.com/quake) you can see there how to donate, or maybe you can donate to UNICEF near you ...
We already have Australia, US, UAE, IRAN, and many more that given the helps, but we still need a lot more .... millions of people in Aceh, Indonesia lose their house, family, they don't have anything beside the clothes they wear .... :sad:Again my condolences,

I hope people all over the world realise they need to help by donating money, I will copy your sig.

I think all Belgian posters already know but in case someone did miss it the number to donate for Belgians is 000-0000012-12

I realise how lucky I am to still have my friends and family close to me.
I've tried to imagine what it must be like to lose your child in the water, not being able to hold on to her because of the strength of the water, the thought alone makes me shiver and brings me close to tears...

CC
Dec 31st, 2004, 12:51 AM
Some American families have emailed CNN about adopting the orphaned children in Indonesia, but the representative from the Save the Children organization believes it is better for the kids to remain in a familiar environment after such trauma.

I have been watching all evening and all I can do is cry. This kind of disaster is really difficult to watch.

spyro
Dec 31st, 2004, 12:56 AM
Some American families have emailed CNN about adopting the orphaned children in Indonesia, but the representative from the Save the Children organization believes it is better for the kids to remain in a familiar environment after such trauma.

I have been watching all evening and all I can do is cry. This kind of disaster is really difficult to watch.
That is so kind for the American families that have any intention to adop orphaned children ... There are lots of orphaned children in Aceh after the tragedy .... :sad:

CC
Dec 31st, 2004, 01:01 AM
That is so kind for the American families that have any intention to adop orphaned children ... There are lots of orphaned children in Aceh after the tragedy .... :sad:
It was very touching. One man in Virginia wrote that although his family is not wealthy, they were willing to take up to 4 children.

beauty_is_pink
Dec 31st, 2004, 01:28 AM
I was jus watching the news, and I have no idea why, but I jus started crying... weird for me cause usually I'm not the type to show my emotions...
It's jus so sad, people looking desperately for their loved ones...
Gonna do the best I can to help.

CC
Dec 31st, 2004, 01:55 AM
Dr. Aleo found his son! He was on CNN tuesday and said he was going to Thailand determined to find him. Just a few minutes ago the son manage to contact his mother to say he was ok. :)

Rohin.
Dec 31st, 2004, 02:12 AM
Dr. Aleo found his son! He was on CNN tuesday and said he was going to Thailand determined to find him. Just a few minutes ago the son manage to contact his mother to say he was ok. :)

Thats great news :)

I'm finding it really hard to get on with things at the moment :sad: this tragedy has drained me of all my enthusiasm.. I can't stop thinking about the poor kid's who have lost familys, or those with missing loved ones :sobbing:

Vut
Dec 31st, 2004, 03:32 AM
6,000 are still missing in Thailand. :sad:

jbone_0307
Dec 31st, 2004, 03:47 AM
Well, if your media releases name list of 1000+ country mates. Missing - feared dead.

Even they would realize what has happened.

That is just a number and it is lower than 11/9 number so why would they care :confused:

Last, I m starting to hope that someone assasinates their current precident. Has he heard of United Nations ? Rest of the world thinks he hasnt. :(
Forming coalision of helping ........... :mad: No words ...

Im not understanding what your trying to say???

jbone_0307
Dec 31st, 2004, 03:48 AM
BTW there are 3,000 missing Americans.

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 31st, 2004, 05:18 AM
I still don't understand why that Indonesia don't report for a warning to India, Sri Lanka and Maldivies. I mean, tsunami doesn't hit India until two hours later so, there could be much less than the number of dead bodies and missing right now.

Scotso
Dec 31st, 2004, 05:42 AM
you guys can donate money at www.amazon.com to the red cross

Matt, I'm sure they had their own concerns, and even if they had warned them, those aren't advanced countries like Australia. They wouldn't have had enough time to evacuate people.

Grice
Dec 31st, 2004, 06:24 AM
there's an sms floating around in S'pore right now.. that another tsunami just hit Chennai.. and another one will hit in 1-2 hrs time....

is it true??

Greenout
Dec 31st, 2004, 06:45 AM
It's New Year's Eve here, and raining. They have decided to cut all
fireworks shows this evening. All concerts/shows will be toned down or
turned into donation/charity shows with areas made for walk in donations.

There's a bittersweet tone here in Singapore, because there are about
275 Singaporeans that are "missing" from the various areas that
were affected by the tsunami. The PM issue a press conference
saying to brace yourself for the worst.

I suppose it's an Asian thing to not report people as dead; but simply
as missing out of respect for families/friends . Hong Kong has also
about 270 missing simply from Phuket. The international media seems
to be focusing on poor villagers from Sri Lanka or Europeans. I think
we shouldn't forget these the fate of these people from other countries
in Asia such as HK, Singapore, Japan, Taiwan etc...

It's great to see this tiny country of 4 million rally around and showing
tones of spirit and hope with the tragedy. They've put in alot of
effort these past days and have made it a government agenda to
assist. Schools will now have it as part of their program to
work in places in affected in the region to aid and learn. The military
and various corporations, and Singapore Airlines have all gotten
involved.

There's an outstanding donation program now, where you can
simply go to the ATM and use your debit bankcard to give whatever
amount you wish to the charities.


Happy New Year everyone. Stay strong, be brave- appreciate what
you really have, and who you really are.

Harju.
Dec 31st, 2004, 08:00 AM
It's New Year's Eve here, and raining. They have decided to cut all
fireworks shows this evening. All concerts/shows will be toned down or
turned into donation/charity shows with areas made for walk in donations.

There's a bittersweet tone here in Singapore, because there are about
275 Singaporeans that are "missing" from the various areas that
were affected by the tsunami. The PM issue a press conference
saying to brace yourself for the worst.

I suppose it's an Asian thing to not report people as dead; but simply
as missing out of respect for families/friends . Hong Kong has also
about 270 missing simply from Phuket. The international media seems
to be focusing on poor villagers from Sri Lanka or Europeans. I think
we shouldn't forget these the fate of these people from other countries
in Asia such as HK, Singapore, Japan, Taiwan etc...

It's great to see this tiny country of 4 million rally around and showing
tones of spirit and hope with the tragedy. They've put in alot of
effort these past days and have made it a government agenda to
assist. Schools will now have it as part of their program to
work in places in affected in the region to aid and learn. The military
and various corporations, and Singapore Airlines have all gotten
involved.

There's an outstanding donation program now, where you can
simply go to the ATM and use your debit bankcard to give whatever
amount you wish to the charities.


Happy New Year everyone. Stay strong, be brave- appreciate what
you really have, and who you really are.
ditto.

even everyone in my poly could do donation which will be sent to somewhere in Sri Lanka or India.

gentenaire
Dec 31st, 2004, 09:20 AM
I still don't understand why that Indonesia don't report for a warning to India, Sri Lanka and Maldivies. I mean, tsunami doesn't hit India until two hours later so, there could be much less than the number of dead bodies and missing right now.

I heard that American monitors had seen a Tsunami was on the way and that they'd tried to warn the Asian countries but they couldn't get through to anyone.
As to why Indonesia couldn't send a warning, have you seen the area in Indonesia that was hit? It's not as if they could pick up a phone book and ring some people in India. It's hard enough getting to those areas with internationel help. It probably took a very long time until the people in Jakarta were aware of what happened in Sumatra. If you look at the images, it's a wonder anyone survived.

gentenaire
Dec 31st, 2004, 09:35 AM
I heard that they believe the number of dead in Indonesia alone could be more than 400.000!!

Considering all the bodies in that horrific picture posted in this thread haven't been counted yet, actually, none of the bodies in that entire area have been counted, it's pretty clear there are many more deaths than 80.000. I saw images on TV yesterday of that area, it's completely dead. Bodies everywhere and no one is recovering them, no one is getting them ready for burial because there are simply too many bodies and not enough survivors to recover them. International help is also slow getting through to that area because it's so hard to reach.

Vincent
Dec 31st, 2004, 09:36 AM
:sad:

kj-
Dec 31st, 2004, 09:42 AM
I still don't understand why that Indonesia don't report for a warning to India, Sri Lanka and Maldivies. I mean, tsunami doesn't hit India until two hours later so, there could be much less than the number of dead bodies and missing right now.
matt, i even don't know about it until the next day.. :sad:

http://www.acehkita.com/images/album/2004-12-31-112938-1.jpg

bionic71
Dec 31st, 2004, 10:53 AM
My friends who were holidaying in Sri Lanka are safe and well......thankfully.
They were in a mountain region of Sri Lanka when the waves struck....so they avoided danger.
My heartfelt sympathies go out to all those who have lost or are still missing loved ones. xxxxx

SpikeyAidanm
Dec 31st, 2004, 11:45 AM
danielrosario was online just then and is safe. phew.

korben
Dec 31st, 2004, 03:53 PM
Im not understanding what your trying to say???Sorry about that. Maybe this article makes point clearer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4136447.stm


Short attacks US over tsunami aid


Former Cabinet minister Clare Short has criticised the US-led tsunami aid coalition, saying the UN should be leading efforts.
President Bush has announced that an alliance of the US, India, Australia and Japan will co-ordinate a humanitarian drive.

But Ms Short said the effect of the parallel coalition would be to undermine the UN.

She said only the UN had the "moral authority" to lead the relief work.

Ms Short resigned as international development secretary over the Iraq war.

"I think this initiative from America to set up four countries claiming to co-ordinate sounds like yet another attempt to undermine the UN when it is the best system we have got and the one that needs building up," she said.

"Only really the UN can do that job," she told BBC Radio Four's PM programme.

"It is the only body that has the moral authority. But it can only do it well if it is backed up by the authority of the great powers."

Ms Short said the countries involved could not boast good records on their response to major disasters.

The US was "very bad at coordinating with anyone" and India had its own problems, Ms Short said.

"I don't know what that is about but it sounds very much, I am afraid, like the US trying to have a separate operation and not work with the rest of the world through the UN system," she added.

korben
Dec 31st, 2004, 04:22 PM
Banda Aceh - before (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/Banda_aceh_northernshore_june23_2004_dg.jpg)

Banda Aceh - after (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Banda_aceh_northernshore_dec28_2004_dg.jpg)

:shrug: :sad:

Banda Aceh, big picture - before (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_cityzoom_june23_2004_dg.jpg)

Banda Aceh, big picture - after (http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/tsunami/banda_aceh_cityzoom_dec28_2004_dg.jpg)

:awww: :awww: :awww:

jbone_0307
Dec 31st, 2004, 07:09 PM
Im pretty sure that the death toll will exceed atleast 200,000. WoW the whole island is like gone.

korben
Dec 31st, 2004, 07:41 PM
Hopes fade for missing Europeans (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4136871.stm)

At least 6,000 Europeans are still missing - most of them presumed dead - after the Indian Ocean disaster wrecked beach resorts in south-west Thailand.

EUROPEANS DEAD OR MISSING

Sweden: 59 dead, about 3,500 missing
Germany: 34 dead, over 1,000 missing
Britain: 34 dead, unconfirmed number missing
France: 22 dead, 96 missing
Norway: 21 dead, 430 missing
Italy: 14 dead, 700 missing
Finland: 14 dead, 263 missing
Switzerland: 12 dead, 850 missing
Denmark: 7 dead, 419 missing
Austria: 5 dead, up to 100 missing
Russia: 1 dead, 80 missing

:tears: :tears: :tears:

U.S. ups tsunami aid from $35 million to $350 million (http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/12/31/us.aid/index.html)

(CNN) -- The United States will increase its aid pledge from $35 million to $350 million to help victims of the tsunamis in south Asia, CNN has learned. :clap2:

Wiggly
Dec 31st, 2004, 08:57 PM
Canada News :sad:

4 died, 150 missings :eek: :eek: :sad: :sad: :mad:

jbone_0307
Dec 31st, 2004, 11:34 PM
Well India doesn't want ours or any other countries help, so we shouldn't give it to them, it should go to Indonesia and Thailand.

Yonexforever
Jan 1st, 2005, 12:11 AM
With loads of countries throwing money at the relief effort, has anyone heard from ANY of the Muslim states in the middle east?
I guess they are too busy pumping oil!

korben
Jan 1st, 2005, 12:44 AM
With loads of countries throwing money at the relief effort, has anyone heard from ANY of the Muslim states in the middle east?
I guess they are too busy pumping oil!Some of numbers might be outdated http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6767190/

Egyptian Red Crescent Society sending a plane with 500,000 Egyptian pounds ($81,000) worth of medicine and other aid as initial step.

Kuwait Pledged aid supplies worth $2 million, sent $100,000 immediate aid.

Qatar Sent urgent relief aid worth $10 million.

Saudi Arabia Pledged $10 million aid package -- $5 million of food, tents and medicine to be distributed via Saudi Red Crescent, $5 million for international aid groups such as the Red Cross and U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.

United Arab Emirates Pledged $2 million in aid; its Red Crescent society to provide food, blankets and clothing.

Hayato
Jan 1st, 2005, 12:53 AM
Australia sent $10 million to Indonesia i think.

esqumaux
Jan 1st, 2005, 02:29 AM
:o

spyro
Jan 1st, 2005, 03:33 AM
Behind the tragedy, there are always be a miracles ... one miracle that happened in Aceh, where 8 years old boy drawning in the ocean using a floating bed for two days and found safe by the rescuers ... you can imagine how happy was his mother and his family after seing him. the condition of his familiy is fine but his father got a broken leg ... his house was destroyed by Tsunami ... his familly doesnt have anything right now, he stills nedd some helps ...

spyro
Jan 1st, 2005, 03:45 AM
From News at Yahoo.com

Nations Pledge Nearly $1B in Tsunami Aid
By The Associated Press



A partial list of the countries pledging aid for tsunami victims totalling nearly $1 billion. The figures are based on U.N. data published Friday with updates from reports of donation changes from nations themselves:



_ The United States: $350 million.
_ Britain: $95 million
_ Sweden: $75.5 million
_ Spain: $68 million
_ China: $60 million
_ France: $57 million
_ Australia: $46.7 million.
_ Canada: $33 million.
_ Japan: $30 million.
_ Germany: $27 million
_ Switzerland: $21.9 million
_ Denmark: $18,1 million
_ Norway: $16.6 million
_ Portugal: $11 million
_ Qatar: $10 million
_ Saudi Arabia: $10 million
_ Singapore: $3.6 million
_ New Zealand: $3.5 million
_ Finland: $3.3 million
_ Kuwait: $2 million
_ United Arab Emirates: $2 million
_ Ireland: $1.4 million
_ Italy: $1.3 million
_ Turkey: $1.25 million
_ Czech Republic: $750,000
_ Iran: $627,000
_ South Korea: $600,000
_ Hungary: $411,000
_ Greece: $397,000
_ Luxembourg: $265,000
_ Monaco: $133,000
_ Mexico: $100,000
_ Nepal: $100,000
_ Estonia: $42,000

Thanks for the helps ...

esqumaux
Jan 1st, 2005, 03:50 AM
_ The United States: $350 million.US... stingy... ?

Crazy Canuck
Jan 1st, 2005, 04:04 AM
Who called them stingy? Do I need to scroll back a page or several to find that? :p

xin_hui
Jan 1st, 2005, 04:21 AM
i think the original amt US donated was a lot less

spyro
Jan 1st, 2005, 05:13 AM
Until now, the donation using these 2 sites reach :


- Amazon.Com : And still increasing everytime you refresh it

Total Collected: US $10,411,058.00
# of Payments: 132208


- American Red Cross (via Yahoo.com) (http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate/) (http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate/))
Total Collected: $2,468,765.00
Number of Donors: 21,578

Crazy Canuck
Jan 1st, 2005, 05:36 AM
There has been a lot of generosity from US corperations and blah, although those could have been included in the figure? :confused:

Experimentee
Jan 1st, 2005, 06:47 AM
Good that so many countries are helping out :yeah:
Some idiot sent a letter to the Herald Sun saying we shouldnt give aid because it has to come out of services like health and dental and our system isnt perfect :o
I'd like to know how he sleeps at night if we didnt give aid and had perfect healthcare while people die in other countries :mad:

Vut
Jan 1st, 2005, 08:08 AM
:eek: US$350 Millions

Greenout
Jan 1st, 2005, 09:27 AM
OMG! Who said Singaporeans only care about shopping, mobile phones
and food. :)

Two men walked into the SPH Straits Times newspaper office dressed
in shorts, rubber slippers and donated $200,000 in cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:eek:

It's the Jan. 1 2005 edition of the newspaper and front page news.
The two men said they want to remain nameless; but collected the
cash among 12 friends.

Photo of the bills donated by the two men.
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2005-01-01/1a.jpg

Wow! :yeah:

Vut
Jan 1st, 2005, 09:33 AM
Two men walked into the SPH Straits Times newspaper office dressed
in shorts, rubber slippers and donated $200,000 in cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:eek: :worship: :eek:

Scotso
Jan 1st, 2005, 11:01 AM
I think that the amount the United States government donates will greatly exceed $350 million. Say what you will about our government, we really do step in to help when tragedies occur.

Becca, those figures are official US government aid, and don't include private donations.

I head that Bill Gates' foundation alone donated over $3 million. The richest man in Asia donated a similar amount.

Tragedies like this are just so awful, but its nice to see the entire world come together to help. Even some countries that really don't have the money to give are doing their part.

That said, I'd like to see the US gov't donations reach at least $1 billion. I know we can afford it.

Lemonskin.
Jan 1st, 2005, 11:40 AM
It seems every christmas there's a big disaster somewhere in the world. It must be a crazy time for the weather.

TammysBigSis
Jan 1st, 2005, 11:44 AM
I think the original figure quoted by George Bush was only $15 million and one UN officer was critical of the stinginess of nations, without naming countries directly, but since Dubya was on the defensive and then upped it to $35 million, you know he felt criticized. Even some senators and representatives of the house were outraged at $35 million, saying that they spend $35 million in Iraq before having breakfast every morning.

I'm glad there's finally another zero on the figure, but I hope all the nations that can afford it will continue to support the affected nations until the people are able to get back on their feet and support themselves.

gentenaire
Jan 1st, 2005, 11:56 AM
From News at Yahoo.com

Nations Pledge Nearly $1B in Tsunami Aid
By The Associated Press



A partial list of the countries pledging aid for tsunami victims totalling nearly $1 billion. The figures are based on U.N. data published Friday with updates from reports of donation changes from nations themselves:



_ The United States: $350 million.
_ Britain: $95 million
_ Sweden: $75.5 million
_ Spain: $68 million
_ China: $60 million
_ France: $57 million
_ Australia: $46.7 million.
_ Canada: $33 million.
_ Japan: $30 million.
_ Germany: $27 million
_ Switzerland: $21.9 million
_ Denmark: $18,1 million
_ Norway: $16.6 million
_ Portugal: $11 million
_ Qatar: $10 million
_ Saudi Arabia: $10 million
_ Singapore: $3.6 million
_ New Zealand: $3.5 million
_ Finland: $3.3 million
_ Kuwait: $2 million
_ United Arab Emirates: $2 million
_ Ireland: $1.4 million
_ Italy: $1.3 million
_ Turkey: $1.25 million
_ Czech Republic: $750,000
_ Iran: $627,000
_ South Korea: $600,000
_ Hungary: $411,000
_ Greece: $397,000
_ Luxembourg: $265,000
_ Monaco: $133,000
_ Mexico: $100,000
_ Nepal: $100,000
_ Estonia: $42,000

Thanks for the helps ...

This list is far from complete. For starters Belgium is missing from this list so I presume there are many more countries that are helping out not mentioned in this list.
And why does the US always wait until they top the list again before posting such lists? A bit more inthe beginning there was the CNN saying Japan would give 30 million, France a meagre 140.000 and the US 35 million + all sorts of other things. I felt the report only wanted to say, "look we're giving the most", even though at that time Spain along had pledged more, but they left that out. And the figure for France was obviously wrong as well. There were no such lists when Britain was on top, they waited until the US increased that figure to post a list again. (I was convinced the US would increase that figure a lot, see earlier posts, I don't think the US is stingy, I just wish they would stop this whole competition about who gives the most)

moby
Jan 1st, 2005, 12:12 PM
I think the US just wants to demonstrate they are the most powerful nation again and again. There is no way they would allow another country to top the list.

But hey, I'm not complaining. If this little competition between the countries increases the disaster fund, then all the better.

TammysBigSis
Jan 1st, 2005, 12:17 PM
I think Dubya was still on "vacation-mode" and forgot to have his feed plugged in so that he could sound intelligent when he first addressed the disaster. It was ill-advised to put an exact figure on US relief funds ($15 million was WAAAAAY too low), and an even worse move to say that the US was forming a relief coalition with India, Australia and Japan. India didn't even know it was part of such a coalition.

Once again, it was speak first, think later, which is normally a deadly mistake when you're someone as important as the President of the USA. Now he's busy back tracking and trying to make the US look like the leader.

Hey, I didn't vote for him...

But I'm with you guys. It shouldn't be a competition about who is giving the most. It should be about helping the people who are suffering as quickly as we can. It is about identifying the deceased as quickly as possible so that they can be returned to their respective countries and be given a proper burial.

My condolences to all the countries affected by this tragedy. It goes beyond the Indian Ocean, as we can all see by the grief in Europe and Scandanavia. We are all brothers and sisters on this speck of dust called Earth.

korben
Jan 1st, 2005, 12:28 PM
I just wish they would stop this whole competition about who gives the most) Why ? If there is one time to show "Im bigger than you are" this is it.
Btw. Japan just increased its aid to $ 500 million. :clap2:

Experimentee
Jan 1st, 2005, 12:51 PM
Originally, John Howard only pledged $10 mil. From that list it looks like its gone up to $46.7 million :eek:
I dont know if those lists are inflated or it really did increase by that much.