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Q&A
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:35 PM
Which one would you choose? Now it doesn’t have to include your favourite player. But lets say you can go back in time, maybe to a time when you were not around, and watch one match, which would it be? Or you can choose a match for sentimental, or personal reasons, whatever! :)

lindsayno1
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:39 PM
the graf/davenport final at wimbledon in 99. it was just before i came a tennis/lindsay fanatic and ive never seen it :(

^bibi^
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:40 PM
I would have like to see Suzanne Lenglen play

tennislover
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:41 PM
1978 Wimbledon final beetween Navratilova and Evert

WhatTheDeuce
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:42 PM
1998 EASTBOURNE GRASS (O) QF A. KOURNIKOVA def. S. GRAF 6-7(4) 6-3 6-4

Stamp Paid
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:53 PM
Serena Williams d. Amelie Mauresmo - Wimbledon 2004 SF - 6-7(4), 7-5, 6-4. :hearts:

Pengwin
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:16 PM
1978 Wimbledon final beetween Navratilova and Evert

:wavey: they showed this match on BBC during the rain delays this year, it was absolutely awesome seeing the GREATEST player of all time in her prime. :worship:

R&J
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:22 PM
Great topic :yeah:

For me it would be the 90 French Open final.

!<blocparty>!
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:25 PM
For me it would be a choice of 3, sorry:

1. Sampras Def. Agassi - USO 2001
2. Venus Def. Martina - USO 2000
3. Serena Def. Lindsay - USO 2001

AK-DH Fan
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:26 PM
1998 EASTBOURNE GRASS (O) QF A. KOURNIKOVA def. S. GRAF 6-7(4) 6-3 6-4

OMG, I would do anything to see that match. Back then, I didn't watch that much tennis :(

Timariot
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:29 PM
Two greatest matches I've seen:

1) Hingis vs Graf RG final 1999
2) Rafter vs Ivanisevic Wimbledon final 2001

These matches were just emotionally HUGE. I mean, nothing else I've seen comes even remotely close. No Hollywood writer could make a better script.

But if we're talking about something I haven't seen, maybe Graf vs Seles at USO final 1996. Or their earlier RG final. And me too would have loved to see Lenglen...

tennischick
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:36 PM
1950: to see Althea Gibson win the US Open at Forest Hills :worship:

1999: to watch Steffi :hearts: spank Hingis :hearts: at RG :lol:

Q&A
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:39 PM
1950: to see Althea Gibson win the US Open at Forest Hills :worship:

1999: to watch Steffi :hearts: spank Hingis :hearts: at RG :lol:

Which one? ;)

tennischick
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Which one? ;)both. the first for its historical significance. the second for its sheer entertainment value.

Caz
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Magüi Serna def. Mary Pierce, Wimbledon 2000. I couldn't even begin to explain why to anyone who wasnt there watching with me and those who were would know without any explanation needed, so I won't even try. ;)

Q&A
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:49 PM
Magüi Serna def. Mary Pierce, Wimbledon 2000. I couldn't even begin to explain why to anyone who wasnt there watching with me and those who were would know without any explanation needed, so I won't even try. ;)

I’ll not sleep until I know, tell me! ;)

!<blocparty>!
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:51 PM
I’ll not sleep until I know, tell me! ;)
DITTO! :D

come on caz! :bounce: :angel:

Caz
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:56 PM
lol! There's nothing special to tell. It was the first big, exciting, win of one of our fave players, that the group of people I have been to many tournaments with since experienced live. It was just something special I couldn't begin to describe in words to anyone who wasn't part of it, but all the "Magüi Maniacs" know exacty what I'm talking about! ;)

Q&A
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:58 PM
lol! There's nothing special to tell. It was the first big, exciting, win of one of our fave players, that the group of people I have been to many tournaments with since experienced live. It was just something special I couldn't begin to describe in words to anyone who wasn't part of it, but all the "Magui Maniacs" know exacty what I'm talking about! ;)


So, there was no nudity or nothing involved?

Caz
Dec 4th, 2004, 07:01 PM
So, there was no nudity or nothing involved?lol! No! Perhaps a little drunkeness from some, but that's about it! :p We were commented on by the BBC commentators though, (who inspired "Magüi Mania" by calling us "Serna Mania" and saying it didn't sound as good as Henmania"), and shown on TV more often than Magüi's mother!! ;) I would never have thought 6 people could make so much noise! lol! ;)

fammmmedspin
Dec 4th, 2004, 07:05 PM
Depends what mood you are in and what mood you want to get to. The Wimbledon's doubles final from 93 is amazing fun with Natasha winning on her knees. Wimbledon 93 sums up the human condition and even has the joyous moment when Virginia Wade declares on the commentary that Steffi can't win. Then there are the tragedies - Hingis v Graf 99, Hingis v Capriati 2000. The underdogs - anytime Testud or Schnyder made a number 1 look ordinary. The amazing - Pierce v Graf FO 94. The long lasting dramas - FO 02, Huber v Graf YEC. The sweet revenge - Natasha-Steffi Wimbledon 98. The sheer determination - any GS match with Justine cramping. Girl meets destiny - Iva's FO final, Myskina at FO 04, Myskina in Moscow. Most improbable - Mary Joe bt Gabriela FO, Most involving : Natasha v Nathalie Eastbourne 97. Most damaging to your health - Anna bt Steffi Eastbourne 98.

Q&A
Dec 4th, 2004, 07:05 PM
lol! No! Perhaps a little drunkeness from some, but that's about it! :p We were commented on by the BBC commentators though, (who inspired "Magüi Mania" by calling us "Serna Mania" and saying it didn't sound as good as Henmania"), and shown on TV more often than Magüi's mother!! ;) I would never have thought 6 people could make so much noise! lol! ;)

Were you guys wrapped in a Spanish flag? I'm probably thinkin of someone else.:)

calabar
Dec 4th, 2004, 07:08 PM
Venus d. Hingis US Open semi 2000

Wimanna
Dec 4th, 2004, 07:40 PM
Monami def. Hingis, Filderstadt 1998

selking
Dec 4th, 2004, 07:43 PM
Either the battle of thes exes or 1992 french final

Caz
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:24 PM
Were you guys wrapped in a Spanish flag? I'm probably thinkin of someone else.:)
Errrm! You may well be thinking of us!! You would remember Stacey, an Australian girl, she was wearing sunglasses that were the colour of the Spanish flag! lol! ;)

tennislover
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:31 PM
:wavey: they showed this match on BBC during the rain delays this year, it was absolutely awesome seeing the GREATEST player of all time in her prime. :worship:


:kiss: :wavey: :hug: :clap2:

the cat
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:36 PM
Great choice TC for Althea Gibson winning the 1950 U.S. Open at Forest Hills. :) But Grrrr at your second choice of Graf over Hingis at the 1999 French Open. :mad: That match started Martina's downfall and she was treated terribly by the overreacting as usual French crowd. :(

My 2 choices would be Hana Mandlikova's thrilling win over Martina Navratilova in a third set tiebreak at the 1985 U.S. Open and Bjorn Borg defeating Joohn MCenroe in a 5 set thriller at Wimbledon in 1980. Those were 2 of the greatest matches ever and I loved watching them live and I would like to watch them again. :D

NicoMary
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:43 PM
V williams/S Graf Wimbly 1999:eek: :eek: :eek:
Pierce/Kournikova Masters:hearts: :hearts:
Kournikova def graf :worship:
Kournikova def Hingis:worship:

tennislover
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:43 PM
But Grrrr at your second choice of Graf over Hingis at the 1999 French Open. :mad: That match started Martina's downfall and she was treated terribly by the overreacting as usual French crowd. :(



you are the voice ot truth and wisdom..... :wavey:

Calimero377
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:49 PM
the graf/davenport final at wimbledon in 99. it was just before i came a tennis/lindsay fanatic and ive never seen it :(


Forget it. It was mediocre. Graf's worst Wimbledon final.

GermanBoy
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:52 PM
1992 Jen beating Steffi at the Olympics! :hearts:
2000 Jen beating Hingis at the Australian Open to win her first GS title! :cool:
1999 Steffi beating Hingis at the French Open! Will never forget Hingis crying.... :lol:
1996 Jen beating Boogert in her comeback match! Then definitely knew she was back! :bounce:

Calimero377
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:57 PM
Which one would you choose? Now it doesn’t have to include your favourite player. But lets say you can go back in time, maybe to a time when you were not around, and watch one match, which would it be? Or you can choose a match for sentimental, or personal reasons, whatever! :)


Graf vs. Navratilova, Wimbledon 88 final.
At least from 5-7, 0-2 on.
If you want to know what "in the zone" means you just have to watch those last 13 games. Navi' serve was broken 7 consecutive times. BTW, Navi made more winners than UEs in that match. To no avail ....

:worship: :worship: :worship:

darrinbaker00
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:05 PM
1950: to see Althea Gibson win the US Open at Forest Hills :worship:

1999: to watch Steffi :hearts: spank Hingis :hearts: at RG :lol:
If you went back to 1950, you would see Miss Althea lose in the second round at Forest Hills. If you want to see Miss Althea WIN, you would go back to 1957 or 1958. ;)

vettipooh
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:07 PM
There's 3 I'd like to see:

Althea Gibson vs Darlene Hard, Wimbly 1957...first black to win wimbly
Graf vs Seles, USopen final 1995
Vee vs Spirlea USopen Semis 1997.Vee saves 2 mp to get to final against Hingis.

bandabou
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:08 PM
Well cali, since Martina N is a serve and volleyer, it ain´t about winners-ufe´s....but mostly: net-points won...and I think that statistic would have been pretty low.

vettipooh
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:09 PM
If you went back to 1950, you would see Miss Althea lose in the second round at Forest Hills. If you want to see Miss Althea WIN, you would go back to 1957 or 1958. ;) or 1956 French championships.;)

bandabou
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:10 PM
Serena def Graf ´99 IW final

Babolatpro880
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:12 PM
2002 San Diego QF: Dokic over Capriati

darrinbaker00
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:14 PM
I know this is WTAworld, but my choice, if I could only pick one match, would be the 1975 Wimbledon men's final between Arthur Ashe and Jimmy Connors. The only person who thought Mr. Ashe had a chance to win was Mr. Ashe, and win he did. I MUST get that match on tape. ;)

Calimero377
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:15 PM
Well cali, since Martina N is a serve and volleyer, it ain´t about winners-ufe´s....but mostly: net-points won...and I think that statistic would have been pretty low.

Graf made 79 winners and 34 UEs, Navi 44 winners and 18 UEs.
Graf had 10 volley winners, 5 smashes and only 2 UEs at net.
Navi had 12 volley winners, 4 smashes and 6 UEs at net.
Graf hit 21 direct return winners (passing shots against a net-charging Navi with Navi not even touching the ball!).
Just saw the video again last week. UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE!


:worship: :worship: :worship:


IMO, everybody who never saw that match (or everybody who saw it but doesn't remember it very well) should be excluded from discussing "best-ever" .......

bandabou
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:20 PM
Graf made 79 winners and 34 UEs, Navi 44 winners and 18 UEs.
Graf had 10 volley winners, 5 smashes and only 2 UEs at net.
Navi had 12 volley winners, 4 smashes and 6 UEs at net.
Graf hit 21 direct return winners (passing shots against a net-charging Navi with Navi not even touching the ball!).
Just saw the video again last week. UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE!


:worship: :worship: :worship:


IMO, everybody who never saw that match (or everybody who saw it but doesn't remember it very well) should be excluded from discussing "best-ever" .......


See...THAT´s the key....whenever Martina N has only 2 more volley winners than Steffi, you know she was gonna be in trouble....that´s why I think her points won at the net-statistic must have been pretty low....

And of course Steffi was gonna have so many winners...that´s the risk the serve and volleyer takes.

tennislover
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:20 PM
Graf vs. Navratilova, Wimbledon 88 final.
At least from 5-7, 0-2 on.
If you want to know what "in the zone" means you just have to watch those last 13 games. Navi' serve was broken 7 consecutive times. BTW, Navi made more winners than UEs in that match. To no avail ....

:worship: :worship: :worship:

My heart is still bleeding...... :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2:

tennislover
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:22 PM
BTWMartina was unjuried in some way.......

Calimero377
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:43 PM
My heart is still bleeding...... :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :crying2:


OK, I must console you: Navi is the ONLY player who MAYBE has a claim to be named to be on the same level as Graf in a "best-ever" discussion.

(OMG, I'm becoming weak and mellow ... )

tennis ace
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:44 PM
2002 YEC semi Serena def jen this was a great match :hearts::bigclap:

Calimero377
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:46 PM
BTWMartina was unjuried in some way.......


Just watch the video 4 days ago. Couldn't detect anything.
Navi's serve was not very good however.

MisterQ
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:48 PM
I would have like to see Suzanne Lenglen play

Me too! She sounds like a real stylist, sipping brandy during changeovers and all. ;)

http://images.webster-dictionary.org/wiki/6/65/SuzanneLenglen.jpg

I would like to see this match:

*
After 1923, demand for Lenglen and Wills to play each other kept growing. They finally met in the final of a tourney at the Carlton Club in Cannes, France, on February 16, 1926. There were 4000 spectators.

The "Match of the Century"

...In the fourth game Lenglen seized control of the [1st] set. She exchanged long backhand drives with Wills, staying behind the baseline on her backhand side, clearly tempting her to go for the easy winner down the forehand side. But Helen Wills did not go for those winners. She hit ball after ball deep to Lenglen's backhand... one newsman wrote that Helen Wills played as though she believed Suzanne Lenglen's weakness was her backhand. It wasn't... Lenglen took... a 3-2 lead.

Lenglen won the 1st set 6-3. Between sets she had "two deep swallows" from her "emergency kit"--said to be iced cognac. "There was a noticably new spring in her walk when she returned to the baseline to receive Helen's serve." :lol:

Wills served the opening game of the second set. She sliced her first service wide to Lenglen's forehand, drew the Maid Marvel off the court, then moved in quickly and took the return with a winning volley to the backhand side. The crowd loved it. She took three more points in rapid succession and without much difficulty. The last point of the game was nearly unbelievable: a beautiful topped backhand shot straight down the line. The shot completely outwitted Lenglen and left her standing flatfooted in the backcourt. Wills had raised the level of play once again.
[After 7 games the score stood at Wills 4, Lenglen 3...] Before serving the eighth game, Suzanne Lenglen took another gulp from emergency kit. Then she served and won the first point. But Helen Wills again came back and took two points and the lead. The fourth point of the game involved an exceptionally long rally. Then Lenglen returned one of Will's long forehand shots with a powerful forehand angled return. Helen moved for the ball near the juncture of the service line and the sideline. But then she held back on her swing and watched the ball bound well outside. Newsman Don Skene, sitting near where the ball came down, watched it hit wide by "three inches at least." Associated Press correspondent Ferdinand Tuohy also had no doubt about the ball. "It struck far outside," he wrote...
Cyril Tolley, the line judge, remained silent. Helen Wills stood for a moment near where the ball went down, listening for the call. Then, in an extremely rare gesture, she abandoned her silence and her serenity and her poker-faced look. In a loud and clear voice, almost a desperate shout that betrayed her anger, she demanded of Tolley, "What did you call that ball?"
"Inside," he responded. "The shot was good!"
...Fred Moody, Helen's regular Riviera escort, was sitting near the line too, and he knew that the ball was out. He had no doubts at all. "The ball was out and Helen was robbed..."
...In the eleventh game Lenglen... broke Wills service at 30 and appeared to be in control of the match. She now led 6-5 with her own service coming. Then, with renewed confidence she jumped out to a 40-15 lead and double match point in the twelfth game. She hit her first match point down the middle to Wills's backhand and then stayed back for the return. There were several long exchanges as Helen tried pull Suzanne into the forehand corner with some powerful crosscourt blasts. Eventually, Wills sent a sizzling drive deep into that corner. Lenglen moved over for the return, hesitated, and then stopped. Then she heard a wonderful wonderful wonderful sound as a loud and clear voice roared "Ouuuut!" Suzanne Lenglen flung the remaining two tennis balls she held high into the sky and skipped quickly to the net, a smile of relief on her face, her right hand extended. Helen Wills met her at the net and grasped her hand...
The tennis court was almost instantly engulfed by a mob...
Meanwhile, from the far end of the court Lord Charles Hope frantically fought his way through the crowd, swimming through the shouting celebrants to the umpire's chair. When he was within a few feet of Commander Hillyard, he shouted out a shocking statement. "The shot was good!" he said. "I didn't call it out!"
...once Hillyard was certain that he had heard Hope right, he turned apologetically to Suzanne. "The match is not over," he said cautiously. "That ball was good."
Suzanne Lenglen gave the umpire a stunned look as the remark registered. The she responded in a calm and deliberately measured tone, "Then we must go on."...
...Helen Wills... saved the second match point and brought the game to deuce. Then with her hard drives and sharp crisp angles she took two more points and the twelfth game. Six to six.
...Suzanne Lenglen [now leading 7-6] served cautiously in the fourteenth game, placing each service with meticulous care... Finally, with one of her pretty placements she arrived once more at match point. This was fifteen minutes after she believed she had won the match.
She served to Wills's backhand once again and took the strong return with her forehand, punching over a drop shot just to the left of the center line. Wills responded wtih a running desperate save that was high over the net. Too high... Lenglen... caught it near the service line, shoulder high and slapped it back at an angle across the court for a winner. The match was over.
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http://tennis.quickfound.net/history/suzanne_lenglen_helen_wills_index.html

JLDementieva
Dec 4th, 2004, 09:54 PM
1999 French Open Finals

MisterQ
Dec 4th, 2004, 10:04 PM
I know this is WTAworld, but my choice, if I could only pick one match, would be the 1975 Wimbledon men's final between Arthur Ashe and Jimmy Connors. The only person who thought Mr. Ashe had a chance to win was Mr. Ashe, and win he did. I MUST get that match on tape. ;)

I have that on tape, and it is a masterful display of strategy, "mind over matter." Ashe gave Jimmy no power to work with, and Connors just seemed baffled by what was happening. :worship:

Rollo
Dec 4th, 2004, 11:15 PM
It's a great match Darrin. You can order it from wimbledon

http://shop.wimbledon.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10051&storeId=10001&categoryId=10120&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=10107&top_category=null


If I had only one it would be Lenglen-Wills at Cannes in 1926. No match got THAT much attention until King-Riggs in 1973.

Kart
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:08 AM
Off the top of my head - that Serena and Monica one that Monica won but wasn't filmed :mad:.

mboyle
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:32 AM
Lenglen def. Wills 6-3; 8-6, Cannes, France. The Atmosphere was supposedly out of this world, and the tennis was from a different era that I have not experienced.

Vamos Feńa
Dec 5th, 2004, 11:18 AM
2002 San Diego QF: Dokic over Capriati
Yep ;) or 2002 San Diego SF Dokic over Kornikova (saving 2mp) or even 1999 Wimbledon 1r Dokic-Hingis 6/2 6/0 :worship:

moby
Dec 5th, 2004, 11:27 AM
Lenglen def. Wills 6-3; 8-6, Cannes, France. The Atmosphere was supposedly out of this world, and the tennis was from a different era that I have not experienced.
i'm the fourth person in this thread who wants to watch this
say, why don't we rent a time machine or something ;)
might be cheaper with 4 of us to split the cost

Calimero377
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Lenglen def. Wills 6-3; 8-6, Cannes, France. The Atmosphere was supposedly out of this world, and the tennis was from a different era that I have not experienced.


A crowd of only 4,000 people and an atmosphere out of this world?
I doubt that.

Must have been typical country club scenery ...

bandabou
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:11 PM
Ah, please Cali.....of course compare to today that seems like nothing, but back then things were different...I pitty your grandparents....seems like you don´t respect acomplishments of older people.

Princess Fiona
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:20 PM
Seles vs. Capriati @ US Open 1991 (I would just LOVE to see this again... )
Huber vs. Navratilova @ Filderstadt 1991 (I remember Anke winning here and this was the match that turned me to Ankeholism... ;) )

Calimero377
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:41 PM
Ah, please Cali.....of course compare to today that seems like nothing, but back then things were different...I pitty your grandparents....seems like you don´t respect acomplishments of older people.


My grandparents died long, long ago.

BTW, I respect Graf's accomplishments. She was old even in 1998 (Hingis speak).

tennislover
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:49 PM
Me too! She sounds like a real stylist, sipping brandy during changeovers and all. ;)

http://images.webster-dictionary.org/wiki/6/65/SuzanneLenglen.jpg

I would like to see this match:

*
After 1923, demand for Lenglen and Wills to play each other kept growing. They finally met in the final of a tourney at the Carlton Club in Cannes, France, on February 16, 1926. There were 4000 spectators.

The "Match of the Century"

...In the fourth game Lenglen seized control of the [1st] set. She exchanged long backhand drives with Wills, staying behind the baseline on her backhand side, clearly tempting her to go for the easy winner down the forehand side. But Helen Wills did not go for those winners. She hit ball after ball deep to Lenglen's backhand... one newsman wrote that Helen Wills played as though she believed Suzanne Lenglen's weakness was her backhand. It wasn't... Lenglen took... a 3-2 lead.

Lenglen won the 1st set 6-3. Between sets she had "two deep swallows" from her "emergency kit"--said to be iced cognac. "There was a noticably new spring in her walk when she returned to the baseline to receive Helen's serve." :lol:

Wills served the opening game of the second set. She sliced her first service wide to Lenglen's forehand, drew the Maid Marvel off the court, then moved in quickly and took the return with a winning volley to the backhand side. The crowd loved it. She took three more points in rapid succession and without much difficulty. The last point of the game was nearly unbelievable: a beautiful topped backhand shot straight down the line. The shot completely outwitted Lenglen and left her standing flatfooted in the backcourt. Wills had raised the level of play once again.
[After 7 games the score stood at Wills 4, Lenglen 3...] Before serving the eighth game, Suzanne Lenglen took another gulp from emergency kit. Then she served and won the first point. But Helen Wills again came back and took two points and the lead. The fourth point of the game involved an exceptionally long rally. Then Lenglen returned one of Will's long forehand shots with a powerful forehand angled return. Helen moved for the ball near the juncture of the service line and the sideline. But then she held back on her swing and watched the ball bound well outside. Newsman Don Skene, sitting near where the ball came down, watched it hit wide by "three inches at least." Associated Press correspondent Ferdinand Tuohy also had no doubt about the ball. "It struck far outside," he wrote...
Cyril Tolley, the line judge, remained silent. Helen Wills stood for a moment near where the ball went down, listening for the call. Then, in an extremely rare gesture, she abandoned her silence and her serenity and her poker-faced look. In a loud and clear voice, almost a desperate shout that betrayed her anger, she demanded of Tolley, "What did you call that ball?"
"Inside," he responded. "The shot was good!"
...Fred Moody, Helen's regular Riviera escort, was sitting near the line too, and he knew that the ball was out. He had no doubts at all. "The ball was out and Helen was robbed..."
...In the eleventh game Lenglen... broke Wills service at 30 and appeared to be in control of the match. She now led 6-5 with her own service coming. Then, with renewed confidence she jumped out to a 40-15 lead and double match point in the twelfth game. She hit her first match point down the middle to Wills's backhand and then stayed back for the return. There were several long exchanges as Helen tried pull Suzanne into the forehand corner with some powerful crosscourt blasts. Eventually, Wills sent a sizzling drive deep into that corner. Lenglen moved over for the return, hesitated, and then stopped. Then she heard a wonderful wonderful wonderful sound as a loud and clear voice roared "Ouuuut!" Suzanne Lenglen flung the remaining two tennis balls she held high into the sky and skipped quickly to the net, a smile of relief on her face, her right hand extended. Helen Wills met her at the net and grasped her hand...
The tennis court was almost instantly engulfed by a mob...
Meanwhile, from the far end of the court Lord Charles Hope frantically fought his way through the crowd, swimming through the shouting celebrants to the umpire's chair. When he was within a few feet of Commander Hillyard, he shouted out a shocking statement. "The shot was good!" he said. "I didn't call it out!"
...once Hillyard was certain that he had heard Hope right, he turned apologetically to Suzanne. "The match is not over," he said cautiously. "That ball was good."
Suzanne Lenglen gave the umpire a stunned look as the remark registered. The she responded in a calm and deliberately measured tone, "Then we must go on."...
...Helen Wills... saved the second match point and brought the game to deuce. Then with her hard drives and sharp crisp angles she took two more points and the twelfth game. Six to six.
...Suzanne Lenglen [now leading 7-6] served cautiously in the fourteenth game, placing each service with meticulous care... Finally, with one of her pretty placements she arrived once more at match point. This was fifteen minutes after she believed she had won the match.
She served to Wills's backhand once again and took the strong return with her forehand, punching over a drop shot just to the left of the center line. Wills responded wtih a running desperate save that was high over the net. Too high... Lenglen... caught it near the service line, shoulder high and slapped it back at an angle across the court for a winner. The match was over.
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http://tennis.quickfound.net/history/suzanne_lenglen_helen_wills_index.html

ty very much, great post...

tennislover
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:51 PM
A crowd of only 4,000 people and an atmosphere out of this world?
I doubt that.

Must have been typical country club scenery ...

I'm sorry to say that you are severly wrong, cali

Langlen and Wills would deserve to enter the debate about the best all time players......

tennislover
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:53 PM
OK, I must console you: Navi is the ONLY player who MAYBE has a claim to be named to be on the same level as Graf in a "best-ever" discussion.

(OMG, I'm becoming weak and mellow ... )

I can't believe that!!! :eek: that's a miracle ;)
ty, cali

tennislover
Dec 5th, 2004, 12:56 PM
http://images.webster-dictionary.org/wiki/6/65/SuzanneLenglen.jpg



..........simply divine........... :worship:

daniela86
Dec 5th, 2004, 01:22 PM
hingis def venus at the us open 1999 SF
HINGIS DEF lindsay at zurich 2000
i think it was 2 of martina's best matches
i also would love to see vera zvonareva def venus at french open last year and the famous hantuchova def hingis at indian wells 2002

Calimero377
Dec 5th, 2004, 01:45 PM
I'm sorry to say that you are severly wrong, cali

Langlen and Wills would deserve to enter the debate about the best all time players......


I don' think Lenglen and Wills would have been able to go the pace of a match against Graf. They didn't have proper training & exercising programs back then.

Sipping brandy - please ....

bandabou
Dec 5th, 2004, 01:50 PM
I don' think Lenglen and Wills would have been able to go the pace of a match against Graf. They didn't have proper training & exercising programs back then.

Sipping brandy - please ....

And if we take Graf back to that era without the technology and training of today, me thinks Graf wouldn´t have coped either.

bandabou
Dec 5th, 2004, 01:53 PM
My grandparents died long, long ago.

BTW, I respect Graf's accomplishments. She was old even in 1998 (Hingis speak).

Did you respect them, cali? The way you talk about the Lenglen´s and Wills of this world, who probably were contemporaries of your grandparents or even your parents, makes one wonder...

And of course you respect Graf´s acomplishments.....she´s the ONLY player´s acomplishments you DO respect.

Jenny.C.Fan
Dec 5th, 2004, 02:41 PM
jen beating steffi for the gold medal and the aussie open final 2002 to come back from those match points down against hingis was something very special.

stijntje
Dec 5th, 2004, 02:52 PM
Australian Open 1997 :

3th round : Dominique Van Roost defeating Aranxta Sanchez-Vicario

tennischick
Dec 5th, 2004, 02:57 PM
thanks for the match report Mr. Q. :kiss:

KV
Dec 5th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Great choice TC for Althea Gibson winning the 1950 U.S. Open at Forest Hills. :) But Grrrr at your second choice of Graf over Hingis at the 1999 French Open. :mad: That match started Martina's downfall and she was treated terribly by the overreacting as usual French crowd. :(

My 2 choices would be Hana Mandlikova's thrilling win over Martina Navratilova in a third set tiebreak at the 1985 U.S. Open and Bjorn Borg defeating Joohn MCenroe in a 5 set thriller at Wimbledon in 1980. Those were 2 of the greatest matches ever and I loved watching them live and I would like to watch them again. :DAgree with your first choice. About your second choice in 1980 would pick one of the two players but at the US-Open semi-final the same year. The match ended in a FS TB won by the native New Yorker. Both produced some outburstings, in this match no lack of shouting and screaming from both.

RoanHJ
Dec 5th, 2004, 03:46 PM
For those of you wanting to see Althea Gibson win her first US Championship title you might want to set your "way back machine" for 1957, not 1950. In 1950, Margaret Osborne du Pont won the US Championship. Now,1950, was Gibson's first US Championship but she lost in the second round in a thrilling and very tight match to Louise Brough.

Anyway, 1926 Cannes match between Lenglen and Wills would be great to see just for the sheer hype around the match.

One match I'd love to see, although it broke my heart, was the 1981, US Open when Tracy Austin d Martina Navratilova. :bigcry: It's also, the one match where I'd like to change the out come. This time Martina wins :lol:

_Cell-chuk
Dec 5th, 2004, 04:43 PM
99 wimbledon final davenport def. graf
if graf had played even 50% the way she played a month before in paris she would have won her 8th wimbledon

tennischick
Dec 5th, 2004, 11:40 PM
For those of you wanting to see Althea Gibson win her first US Championship title you might want to set your "way back machine" for 1957, not 1950. In 1950, Margaret Osborne du Pont won the US Championship. Now,1950, was Gibson's first US Championship but she lost in the second round in a thrilling and very tight match to Louise Brough.

that's why i specifically said "Forest Hills" which is what the Championship was called then. and she did enter it for the first time in 1950 which was a historic occasion bec no African-Americans had ever been allowed to do this before. therefore it is of historical significance to me.

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Dec 6th, 2004, 12:49 AM
Which one would you choose? Now it doesn’t have to include your favourite player. But lets say you can go back in time, maybe to a time when you were not around, and watch one match, which would it be? Or you can choose a match for sentimental, or personal reasons, whatever! :)
Go watch bovina?:lol: :p

butch
Dec 6th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Coetzer def Graf Berlin 1997 6-1 6-4
Coetzer def Graf Toronto 1995 3-6 6-2 7-6
Graf def Hingis Roland Garros 1999 (?) 4-6 7-5 6-2

Jaime Bahena
Dec 6th, 2004, 07:48 PM
HIngis defeats Venus, 1997 US Open final.

flyingmachine
Dec 6th, 2004, 07:52 PM
1978 Wimbledon final beetween Navratilova and Evert
Me too. :drool:

TatiAnnahølic
Dec 6th, 2004, 08:06 PM
I would probably pick not a match but the whole tournament of Anna at Miami'98 :hearts:

Alvarillo
Dec 6th, 2004, 08:29 PM
i haven't seen these matches so i would like to see :
1989 RG Final - ASV Champion
1994 Wimby Final - CM Champion
1994 Us Open Final - ASV Champion