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fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:37 AM
They made a very stupid decision and the whole world has to pay for it... and they wonder why there is so much hate for them in the world.

In a way I'm glad that Bush is left to clean up that horrible mess he made...but in another much bigger way its devestating to think of the next country he is going to pick on.

Veritas
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:41 AM
After this victory, I think Bush might do more to rectify some of the damage he's done to his party. I like Bush just as much as I like Kerry - and that is not much at all. But I'm sure he has his influential political advisors who would know better than anyone else that there'd better not be a Iraq episode no.II if the Republicans are going to survive in the long run.

There's not much point predicting what's going to happen later on anyway. Is anyone absolutely certain that Kerry would do a better job than Bush?

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:43 AM
fried_beans, don't blame all of us. Some of us used our common sense and need for good will to vote for Kerry. Not all of us are ignorant. Unfortunately now we all have to live with the mistake they made. :sad:

Today, the price of gas and medication rose. Ah, 4 more years of this... it's like 4 more years of a slow, painful suicide for the USA.

~RedRose~
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:45 AM
Bacardi just because you dont agree with the other voters does not make them ignorant.

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:45 AM
Could it get much worse? I'm sure Gore probably would have done a better job aswell.
But I'm sure the rich are happy ...they will keep getting their taxes cut while Bush starts wars.

It doesn't make any sense that they can't find Bin Laden. Oh wait ..the Bushes and Bin Ladens are friends ...yea...starting to make sense now

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:45 AM
I don't blame you all, I feel bad for half of you

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:46 AM
Alya, I will forever think anyone that relected that man is an IDIOT. You'll never change my mind.

~RedRose~
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:48 AM
Bacardi, despite thinkin ur a great girl, I think that your outlook on this is a very immature one. Not everyone holds the same opinion and that is something that you need to realise. If you continue with this you are going to end up being a very angry and bitter person.

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:51 AM
Everyone in the world has the right to be bitter with this absolutely disgusting result!

Ayla, go watch Farenheit 9-11 ...however bias it should be eye opening

Veritas
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:51 AM
Today, the price of gas and medication rose. Ah, 4 more years of this... it's like 4 more years of a slow, painful suicide for the USA.

I don't know about health care in the U.S., but part of the reason gas prices are rising is because rising economies like China and Russia are gobbling up oil supplies like there's no tomorrow. Asian oil consumption itself has risen over 46% in the past few years and that's because their purchasing power is growing. The U.S. has just under 6% of the world's population yet they consume 33% of the world's oil supply. They had it easy then because they really had no competition when it comes to purchasing oil - which may explain why oil prices in the U.S. is a lot cheaper than it is in Europe and Japan. Now, they have economic superpower potentials like China, India and Russia to compete with. That's maybe the reason why oil prices are on the rise.

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:54 AM
Maybe I should check into buying a hybrid car. I hear Honda makes a nice one. My Jetta's just a couple of years old, can probably get a nice trade in on it. I'm not buying gas to fill George W Bush & Friends pockets with money. I hope they burn in hell covered in their precious oil someday (the sooner, the better).

~RedRose~
Nov 4th, 2004, 12:55 AM
Everyone in the world has the right to be bitter with this absolutely disgusting result!

Ayla, go watch Farenheit 9-11 ...however bias it should be eye opening

I've seen it and it is full of shit.

Veritas
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:02 AM
Maybe I should check into buying a hybrid car. I hear Honda makes a nice one. My Jetta's just a couple of years old, can probably get a nice trade in on it. I'm not buying gas to fill George W Bush & Friends pockets with money. I hope they burn in hell covered in their precious oil someday (the sooner, the better).

Definately consider a hybrid. The Toyota Prius emits less than 90% of carbon doixide (a big global-warming gas) than any gasoline and diesel car.

A friend of of mine who's in California has got a Honda Civic Hybrid that's rated at 45mpg in the City and 51 mpg on Highways. Pretty good fuel consumption if you ask me.

Plus, the CLEAR Act actually gives you tax incentives and savings of up to $2500 if you buy a hybrid...well, in California at least.

Just be careful because battery costs aren't cheap and there's limited driving range per charge.

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:08 AM
I've seen it and it is full of shit.It is full of shit because it is not what you wanted to hear?

Facts are facts!
I personally want to hear your reasoning for voting for Bush!

Are you afraid of the big bad terrorists living in caves with staffs and sheeps following them? so you feel the need to invade poor countries that had nothing to do with 911 and have no WMA ...or do you hate gay people and think abortion should be illegal? ...im confused why anyone who elect that moron

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:09 AM
fried_beans, asking someone why they voted for Bush still? It's pointless they couldn't come up with a good answer if God himself him them on the head with it. :lol:

People here, fear the wrong things. What they should fear is that fucktard we've got in office for another 4 more years.

~RedRose~
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:10 AM
I love those little cars in Europe that are electrical.

njguido11
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:11 AM
Its so much better to give free money to people not working for it though right?

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:29 AM
Nobody can seem to give an answer....amazing

GBFH
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:34 AM
you mean you're actually stunned that no one took your question seriously? :eek:

amazing.

~MaRt~HiNgIs~F@N
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:38 AM
They made a very stupid decision and the whole world has to pay for it... and they wonder why there is so much hate for them in the world.

In a way I'm glad that Bush is left to clean up that horrible mess he made...but in another much bigger way its devestating to think of the next country he is going to pick on.
thats true!!!!!!!!!!! and bush didnt get my vote

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:53 AM
Well it is an extremely serious question..why you elected your leader.

It seems pretty obvious that there is no good reason..bush is a moron

Frank Riley
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:56 AM
I was making a point at another site about how the 2004 election went and how the West Coast and upper Eastern Coast voted for Kerry and how the Heart Land of the USA voted for Bush. Truth is the USA is very divided. I actual made many responses basically saying that educated people that speak correct English voted for Kerry and that those with speach problems voted for Bush. This is my last response and I have brought it here so you may comment and we can get this all out in the open. I am sure many European people have a thought and response. If you did not like the last two years get ready for 4 more years just like it. I am from California a State that voted for Kerry all the way. This is your chance to let it all out so go for it!


Kerry is the better man and we all can see that. Kerry is a real war vet, Kerry has a much better education, Kerry has better ideas, Kerry won all the debates and to be honest Bush is screwing up the USA.

I have been across the USA many times and I have lived in many States, I know exactly what I am talking about. The South is the South and it is still full of slow talking ignorant white people that know nothing about Europe and they also hate blacks very much down there, racism is very strong in the South and it in no wonder they want to kill more Arabs in the South.

First word G.W. Bush said when he had won and gave a speach, he said Yall, that is both poor grammer and incorrect words that mean nothing, he should have said "thank you everyone for coming to day", instead he said, "thankYall for comin", he does not speak english, he is stupid and is the worst person we could have in office. But to be honest the poor english he used is how the mid west and south speaks.

My point exactly is that in general most of the educational power and ability is associated with States that voted for Kerry.

The best thing about all this is that now Bush can continue killing Arabs and when it is all done it will all be his fault. In fact it can only get worse at this point and it will. By the way for all the Arabs you better learn how to be democratic the Republican way and Baptist Christian very fast or Mr. Bush will kill you. That goes for all the people in the world.

One final note, the Germans elected Hitler because they thought he was a great man, how did Hitler turn out. Hitler wanted to correct the world as well, Hitler wanted everyone to be German and Christian. You tell me the difference here? Does Bush wish for all the world to be democratic, Christian, non-gay, Southern, Cowboy? You tell me how this well end?

Kerry is a better man and I hope Kerry runs again because after Bush has further fucked it all up I hope I can vote for Kerry again because I can not support Monkey Boy.

~RedRose~
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:06 AM
One thread was enough Mr Riley

Frank Riley
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:10 AM
not really it is an important issue, the World is in trouble with this Bush wanker at work!

faboozadoo15
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:22 AM
Nobody can seem to give an answer....amazing
how about tort reform? or were you too lazy to research that?
many people (doctors especially) are uncomfortable with electing a vice president who 'made' his fortune in malpractice litigation using tactics in court that are no longer admissable. if you did your homework on edwards you would truly see that it put many americans in a position of the lesser of 2 evils.

here's how it works.
attorneys like edwards in the south raise soooo many cases against practicing doctors (obgyn's especially) that the doctors often settle out of court to save time and attorney fees. this drives the cost of medical professional insurance through the roof. this makes doctors unable to afford their own insurance to practice medicine.

^^that's kinda scary to me^^
i wouldn't want to be pregnant in the south...

Frank Riley
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:22 AM
Trust me I am trying to help the world, I know what kind of people the Bush family is.

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:31 AM
trust me ...Edwards is the lesser of two evils.. you based your vote on the vice presidents past..not the destruction to your country.

I'm pissed because Bush hates Canada and has a terrible relationship..he didn't even thank us after 911..we were left out then later mentioned by someone else. His trading policies are KILLING our farmers out west.

I'm glad I'm Canadian though. HAve fun with at least antoher 4 years with your shit medical care. Have fun being in the emergency room with the doctors looking at your wallet before you injuries.

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:35 AM
Frank, I agree with what you are saying. But you have to understand the blind are never going to open their eyes and see the light. They are sheep, and you know what they say about sheep.... "Like sheep to the slaughter".

GBFH
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:38 AM
Well it is an extremely serious question..why you elected your leader.

It seems pretty obvious that there is no good reason..bush is a moron
hmm...maybe the "what the hell is wrong with americans" made the smarter posters stay away, hmm? some of us think there's NOTHING wrong.

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:39 AM
trust me ...Edwards is the lesser of two evils.. you based your vote on the vice presidents past..not the destruction to your country.

I'm pissed because Bush hates Canada and has a terrible relationship..he didn't even thank us after 911..we were left out then later mentioned by someone else. His trading policies are KILLING our farmers out west.

I'm glad I'm Canadian though. HAve fun with at least antoher 4 years with your shit medical care. Have fun being in the emergency room with the doctors looking at your wallet before you injuries.


Don't forget 4 more years of rising gas, food, and every other thing you can imagine in prices.

I wish all of us with brains will find a way to survive. If those Repubs lose their jobs, it's going to be humoring. They won't be able to surive, thus, less shitheads to vote next election.

What they should worry about is the terrorist attacks gearing up against the Good Ol'USA right now. Because trust me, it's Hunting Season and the USA is prime for the hurtin.

victory1
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:48 AM
A little history for the foreigners. We are split into 2 party, Democrat & Republican (They have 2 different platform, agendas). Most people vote for the party not the person because of their beliefs. It's more then just foreign policy, most people are more concern about what's going on at home primarily. I always vote for the Republican party, John Kerry is the 1st Democrat I've voted for since I started voting 11 years ago.

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:06 AM
I was referring to the serious question as the "Why did you vote for Bush?" question ...I know most people vote for the party but seriously, open your eyes and see who is leading that party.


In Canada we have political parties too :rolleyes:

Berlin_Calling
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:07 AM
All I gotta say is that Fahrenheit 9/11 is bullshit.

victory1
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:13 AM
I was referring to the serious question as the "Why did you vote for Bush?" question ...I know most people vote for the party but seriously, open your eyes and see who is leading that party.


In Canada we have political parties too :rolleyes:
And I answered it. As a Republican, eventhough I did not vote for Bush this time, I did last time (also I know over 10 thousand Republicans, my congregation). We vote for the Republican platform, not Bush personally. Almost my entire congregation voted for Bush yesterday, and I just gave you the reason, you may not agree with it, but I tried to answer it.

victory1
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:29 AM
I almost forgot to mention this, and its so important: One of the reason why Bush was elected is because this president might have a chance to appoint up to 4 Supreme Court judges (they are our highest court and they interpret the laws of the land. They are appointed by the sitting president, and they stay for LIFE). I know more people in my congregation really wanted to vote for Kerry this year, but where unable to due to this issue.

cheesestix
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:37 AM
I don't know about health care in the U.S., but part of the reason gas prices are rising is because rising economies like China and Russia are gobbling up oil supplies like there's no tomorrow. Asian oil consumption itself has risen over 46% in the past few years and that's because their purchasing power is growing. The U.S. has just under 6% of the world's population yet they consume 33% of the world's oil supply. They had it easy then because they really had no competition when it comes to purchasing oil - which may explain why oil prices in the U.S. is a lot cheaper than it is in Europe and Japan. Now, they have economic superpower potentials like China, India and Russia to compete with. That's maybe the reason why oil prices are on the rise.

Stop being reasonable! Libs can't handle it!

If you're not blaming something on Bush, they don't wanna hear it. :rolleyes:

Justeenium
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:40 AM
I'm glad I'm Canadian though. HAve fun with at least antoher 4 years with your shit medical care. Have fun being in the emergency room with the doctors looking at your wallet before you injuries.
What complete and utter bullshit. You should see a fucking doctor about how having your head lodged so far up your ass. And a doctor in the US where our healthcare is efficient.

Everyone gets treated in the ERs of american hospitals whether or not they can afford it.

Martian Jeza
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:45 AM
that is your opinion.

What did he good for the world ? In de mid-east, the conflict between IsraŽl and Palestine is getting worser and worser day by day. Bill Clinton did a much better job than Dubya Bush ! In Irak ? Except the fall of Saddam, nothing has changed there and Irak has become a complete chaos : Innocent people get killed for that stupid war.
He keeps ignoring what the world thinks. He doesn't care about Europe except his friend Tony Blair ( who's gonna lose the next England Ellection for sure as Aznar did in Spain ) ! Bush is a dangerous man as his regime too.

Damned, I'm happy to live in Europe where politicians don't make an abuse of Religion, where the most of TV station are neutral ( which is not the case in the USA ), etc. It's time in Europe to build a strong Europe and I believe in Europe capacities.

And don't think it's gonna be better in the US itself, it's gonna be worser. Poor people will be more and more poor and rich people will be more and more rich.

cheesestix
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:47 AM
It is full of shit because it is not what you wanted to hear?

Facts are facts!
I personally want to hear your reasoning for voting for Bush!

Are you afraid of the big bad terrorists living in caves with staffs and sheeps following them? so you feel the need to invade poor countries that had nothing to do with 911 and have no WMA ...or do you hate gay people and think abortion should be illegal? ...im confused why anyone who elect that moron

Look asshole, some people just don't trust John Kerry!

You may not like Bush, but I happen to like him a lot better than John Kerry. IMO, his purple hearts were suspect. He came back and betrayed his fellow soldiers. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. That's my opinion based on what I've seen. And I can't stand John Edwards.

Also, it's easy for you to sit in your Socialist country living off the labor of others, but some of us don't want the USA to be that way.

You don't live here. You don't know how it is. So quit judging people for doing what's in their best interest.

cheesestix
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:49 AM
Don't forget 4 more years of rising gas, food, and every other thing you can imagine in prices.

I wish all of us with brains will find a way to survive. If those Repubs lose their jobs, it's going to be humoring. They won't be able to surive, thus, less shitheads to vote next election.

What they should worry about is the terrorist attacks gearing up against the Good Ol'USA right now. Because trust me, it's Hunting Season and the USA is prime for the hurtin.

Damn! You're one sick MFer!

I have a feeling you wouldn't be happy no matter happens.

You need to grow up.

GBFH
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:51 AM
What complete and utter bullshit. You should see a fucking doctor about how having your head lodged so far up your ass. And a doctor in the US where our healthcare is efficient.

Everyone gets treated in the ERs of american hospitals whether or not they can afford it.
i must be delirious because this made me ctfu! the first part did.

and he's right. they don't ask about your insurance until after you've been treated.

Justeenium
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:53 AM
What did he good for the world ? In de mid-east, the conflict between IsraŽl and Palestine is getting worser and worser day by day. Bill Clinton did a much better job than Dubya Bush ! In Irak ? Except the fall of Saddam, nothing has changed there and Irak has become a complete chaos : Innocent people get killed for that stupid war.
He keeps ignoring what the world thinks. He doesn't care about Europe except his friend Tony Blair ( who's gonna lose the next England Ellection for sure as Aznar did in Spain ) ! Bush is a dangerous man as his regime too.

Damned, I'm happy to live in Europe where politicians don't make an abuse of Religion, where the most of TV station are neutral ( which is not the case in the USA ), etc. It's time in Europe to build a strong Europe and I believe in Europe capacities.

And don't think it's gonna be better in the US itself, it's gonna be worser. Poor people will be more and more poor and rich people will be more and more rich.WTF? Is this foreigners show us how dumb they are day? Put the crackpipe down. Clinton got nowhere in the Palestine-Israel conflict because he didn't take that terrorist Arafat out of the picture. Israeli parliament just approved a withdrawal from Gaza.

Stop fucking saying our media's biased, if you have a bias then obviously from your eyes you think its biased. Republicans think its biased left, Democrats think its biased right. Attempt to use a neutral point of view and you would see that CNN and ABC are not biased.

Tennis Fool
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:53 AM
GBFH: You Republican :bolt:

On a lighter note, OAFs on a roll. How come you don't post in MTF anymore :confused:

Justeenium
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:53 AM
i must be delirious because this made me ctfu! the first part did.

and he's right. they don't ask about your insurance until after you've been treated.what is ctfu?

GBFH
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:54 AM
GBFH: You Republican :bolt:

On a lighter note, OAFs on a roll. How come you don't post in MTF anymore :confused:
yes. moderate republican.

i noticed! how about that OAF, eh???? i'll try to get around there soon. don't see nearly enough of YOU around here, TF!!!!!!

GBFH
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:55 AM
what is ctfu?
crack the fuck up

head up your ass comments make me giggle. i don't know why.

Martian Jeza
Nov 4th, 2004, 03:58 AM
WTF? Is this foreigners show us how dumb they are day? Put the crackpipe down. Clinton got nowhere in the Palestine-Israel conflict because he didn't take that terrorist Arafat out of the picture. Israeli parliament just approved a withdrawal from Gaza.

Stop fucking saying our media's biased, if you have a bias then obviously from your eyes you think its biased. Republicans think its biased left, Democrats think its biased left. Attempt to use a neutral point of view and you would see that CNN and ABC are not biased.

And what about Fox ? They are Pro-Republican and biased : Do you think that's normal for a media ? NO ! They have to stay neutral !

Zhao
Nov 4th, 2004, 04:00 AM
i think the brains of the americans are covered by bushes :rolleyes:

Justeenium
Nov 4th, 2004, 04:01 AM
And what about Fox ? They are Pro-Republican and biased : Do you think that's normal for a media ? NO ! They have to stay neutral !

Damned, I'm happy to live in Europe where politicians don't make an abuse of Religion, where the most of TV station are neutral ( which is not the case in the USA ), etc. It's time in Europe to build a strong Europe and I believe in Europe capacities.

yes Fox is biased right, PBS is biased left, but you said most is not neutral in the US. look what he have left, NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN-that's four neutral to two biased.

Tennis Fool
Nov 4th, 2004, 04:42 AM
yes. moderate republican.
The moderate ones are always the quiet ones ;)



i noticed! how about that OAF, eh???? i'll try to get around there soon. don't see nearly enough of YOU around here, TF!!!!!!
I'm so happy OAF made Houston, although you didn't know what to expect from him. I wanted to go, but realized its in two weeks :o

Regarding WTAW, it's a virtual city. I think every topic I'd start has been covered.

Martian KC
Nov 4th, 2004, 05:32 AM
I didn't know Fox was our only media source.

jelena4me
Nov 4th, 2004, 07:11 AM
What amazes me about this election are that the arabs are gonna be kicked to sh*t now for 4 years because America doesnt like gays.

Plenty of justice in that.

Nastyafan
Nov 4th, 2004, 10:00 AM
Has anyone answered why the Germans elected Hitler in 1933 and he still has many supporters? It seems there are periods in the history when the mental disease of one certain man influences whole nations and there is no way to prevent it. The society just has to pull through that illness... or to die

rand
Nov 4th, 2004, 10:09 AM
yes Fox is biased right, PBS is biased left, but you said most is not neutral in the US. look what he have left, NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN-that's four neutral to two biased.
no, that's what you call "left", for us europeans all of them are "right" :lol:

turt
Nov 4th, 2004, 10:24 AM
no, that's what you call "left", for us europeans all of them are "right" :lol:So true... In Belgium, the party the most "right-wing" is called "liberal", a word referring to "extreme-left" in the United States! :eek:

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 11:19 AM
The stupidity of all you Bush supporters is astounding!

It is a fact taht Americans have to pay for all their healthcare.

Forty-one percent of Americans say their greatest hospital healthcare concern is cost, while 25 percent cite quality of care.

I'm not lying to you ...its you that has to live with it ..not me.

GBFH
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:04 PM
The stupidity of all you Bush supporters is astounding!

It is a fact taht Americans have to pay for all their healthcare.

Forty-one percent of Americans say their greatest hospital healthcare concern is cost, while 25 percent cite quality of care.

I'm not lying to you ...its you that has to live with it ..not me.
uh, your ability to put words in our mouths is astounding.

i said they treat you before asking about your insurance. when did i say we don't have to pay for all of our healthcare????

i'm SOOOOOOOO happy you're not trying to protect me from the TRUTH!!! thank you sooooooooooo much!

spyro
Nov 4th, 2004, 01:50 PM
They made a very stupid decision and the whole world has to pay for it... and they wonder why there is so much hate for them in the world.

In a way I'm glad that Bush is left to clean up that horrible mess he made...but in another much bigger way its devestating to think of the next country he is going to pick on.
Couldn't agree more. I hope Bush & all the Bush supporters will pay all the mess, the blood of innocent people in all over the world in the past and may be future ... !!! Remember .... Karma !

tfannis
Nov 4th, 2004, 04:42 PM
There must be some sort of evil mutation in the human brain taking over mankind, promoting ignorance, injustice, intolerance, aggression and arrogance, otherwise I can not understand why anyone would vote for this dangerous man...

fried_beans
Nov 4th, 2004, 05:21 PM
I'm not generalizing but every Bush supporter in this thread has come across extremely stupid. So I am takling about every Bush supporter I've ever met.

Justeenium
Nov 4th, 2004, 05:30 PM
I'm not generalizing but every Bush supporter in this thread has come across extremely stupid. So I am takling about every Bush supporter I've ever met.
what a fucking moron, you were dead wrong about our healthcare, and yours, because if yours was good a doctor would have pulled your head out of your ass by now.

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 05:31 PM
uh, your ability to put words in our mouths is astounding.

i said they treat you before asking about your insurance. when did i say we don't have to pay for all of our healthcare????

i'm SOOOOOOOO happy you're not trying to protect me from the TRUTH!!! thank you sooooooooooo much!


Actually sunshine, it might work that way there in Dallas, for now. But around here, if you go into the ER the first thing they ask you for, before you get treated or any nurses or doctors even sees you is "Proof of Medical Insurance". I know this, because just 2 weeks ago I had to take my friend to the doctor because she accidentally cut the tip of her finger off with some kinda sewing machine. Before they'd even look at her, aside from take the tip and ice it, and give her some gauze to wrap her finger in they made me go tell them exactly all about her insurance. I can bet the moon, if she hadn't had any health insurance they wouldn't have treated her as well.... or might not have treated her at all. Same thing if you go to the basic doctor, and you don't have health insurance. They want the cash up front for the visit, $50 or so, or you can kiss your sweet sick ass out the door.

It won't just be that way here, I can bet anything that is traveling all around the USA.

I've not had health insurance for 3 years now. Can't afford a plan on my own, with my salary (I don't live with mommy and daddy anymore). Thus when I get sick, unless I think I'm near death I don't bother to go to the doctor. I either get anti-biotics from my friends that have insurance, or I take over the counter meds and cure myself. See I know how to make it without going to the doctor. But you take a few of these lil spoiled brats who are used to going everytime they get a runny nose, remove their health insurance and half will probably croak within the flu season. BTW, I've never taken a flu shot either. I don't trust anything Bush blabs about having a lot of, then saying there is a shortage of. He's probably got some plot to kill the old with the Flu Shot. I knew better than to take them anyway... If you get the flu, you suffer it out, plain and simple.... sure as hell don't trust the George Bush Administration to take care of you. So you lil rich brats, just remember when mommy and daddy get laid off, I suggest you find a way to cure the common cold without medical assistance. :p

Martian KC
Nov 4th, 2004, 08:31 PM
It's one thing for Americans that voted for kerry to be upset, but it's another thing for foreigners to come and say bush supporters are either stupid, rednecks, or just religious freaks.:rolleyes:

There were OTHER ISSUES besides the war on terrorism that swayed votes.

tobe
Nov 4th, 2004, 08:35 PM
I'm not generalizing but every Bush supporter in this thread has come across extremely stupid. So I am takling about every Bush supporter I've ever met.
Indeed, and they (Bush supporters in THIS Thread can't write a sentence without "Fuck" Motherfucker" "asshole" etc...which shows again their intellect
I am just wondering if those words are conformable with the Bible to which the religious Republicans refer all the time!!! Is that what u call moral???
So as far as I can see, beeing religious for Republicans mean
- being an alcoholic (Did God told george to be one?)
- killing thousands of innocent people
- Lying
- destroying the environment
- confine rights of the people
- manipulating
hmmm...maybe I should reread the Bilble, I didn't find those points :confused:

SJW
Nov 4th, 2004, 08:45 PM
It's one thing for Americans that voted for kerry to be upset, but it's another thing for foreigners to come and say bush supporters are either stupid, rednecks, or just religious freaks.:rolleyes:

There were OTHER ISSUES besides the war on terrorism that swayed votes.

you missed "homophobic" :)

papasmurf11
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:00 PM
It's one thing for Americans that voted for kerry to be upset, but it's another thing for foreigners to come and say bush supporters are either stupid, rednecks, or just religious freaks.:rolleyes:

There were OTHER ISSUES besides the war on terrorism that swayed votes.


Well im American and alot are stupid,homophopic religious freaks. I voted for kerry and I apologize to everybody for the Usa stupidity. The only good thing about Bush winning he can never run again. Right now im in complete disbelief of the rest of the country's choice! :rolleyes:

kikker
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:02 PM
maybe bush did something in the hamburgers so they would all vote for him

victory1
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:03 PM
It's one thing for Americans that voted for kerry to be upset, but it's another thing for foreigners to come and say bush supporters are either stupid, rednecks, or just religious freaks.:rolleyes:

There were OTHER ISSUES besides the war on terrorism that swayed votes.
:worship:

Martian KC
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:14 PM
you missed "homophobic" :)

That goes together with religious freaks, apparently. ;)

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:22 PM
maybe bush did something in the hamburgers so they would all vote for him

Nah, it's all the pollution he's allowing. Clouded skies = Clouded Judgement

Veritas
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:34 PM
I think if people can't provide evidence that Bush supporters - or even the majority of them - are somehow "stupid", then they should cut back the insults because if you're trying to persuade Bush supporters to really consider your opinions, you're not succeeding. I mean, that's what a debate's about isn't it: trying to convince naysayers that your views are correct?

Bacardi
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:36 PM
http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler/shirts1-sameshit.jpg

Halardfan
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Its wrong to blame Americans as a whole, a glance at this board will tell anyone that there are plenty of Americans just as appalled by Bush as the rest of the world is.

In the battle against all the dreadful, miserable things Bush represents, Democrat leaning Americans, and liberal people throughout the world are (or should be) on the same side.

'What is wrong with Bush voters?' is a fair question though. :)

A4
Nov 4th, 2004, 10:27 PM
I guess a lot of non-Americans are upset because the actions of a US president does not only affect Americans but the rest of the world as well, probably, even more so in some parts of the world than their own governments.

njguido11
Nov 4th, 2004, 10:39 PM
[QUOTE=tobe]Indeed, and they (Bush supporters in THIS Thread can't write a sentence without "Fuck" Motherfucker" "asshole" etc...which shows again their intellect
I am just wondering if those words are conformable with the Bible to which the religious Republicans refer all the time!!! Is that what u call moral???
So as far as I can see, beeing religious for Republicans mean
- being an alcoholic (Did God told george to be one?)
- killing thousands of innocent people
- Lying
- destroying the environment
- confine rights of the people
- manipulating
hmmm...maybe I should reread the Bilble, I didn't find those points :confused:[/QUOT

It amazes me how you anti BUsh people are so blind to reality. I can understand you dont like BUsh but can u honestly not understand why his supporters get frustrated on here. OPEN your eyes just look at half the thread titles in here. i dont see any FUCK KERRY SUPPORTERS or anyone who VOTED FOR KERRY IS STUPID.

SJW
Nov 4th, 2004, 10:52 PM
i for one am looking forward to freezing my ass off due to global warming and his refusal to cut down on the gasses :bounce: i've gone to buy my ski suits already :banana:

minboy
Nov 5th, 2004, 03:39 AM
http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler/shirts1-sameshit.jpg
"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along wether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing their country to danger. It works the same in every country"

Hermann GOERING, Hitler's Reich-marhall at the Nuremberg trials after WW2

Bacardi
Nov 5th, 2004, 04:13 AM
"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along wether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing their country to danger. It works the same in every country"

Hermann GOERING, Hitler's Reich-marhall at the Nuremberg trials after WW2

"We will accept no outcome except complete victory" George W Bush 2003

"Do you believe in the final total victory?" Joseph Goebbels 1943

Bacardi
Nov 5th, 2004, 04:29 AM
"God told me to strike Al-Queda, and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East" George W. Bush

"I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. I am doing the Lord's work. God is with us." Adolf Hitler


"The Prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not neither have I commanded them, niether spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deciet of their own heart" Jeremiah 14:14

njguido11
Nov 5th, 2004, 05:02 AM
Just was looking through my local paper and they had the county by county listing of who went for BUSH and who went for KERRY. This map makes it so obvious that urban areas are pretty much the only reason Kerry was in the running. Even throughout California and New York Bush won more countys just not as heavily populated ones

Capster
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:14 AM
poor United States, we are getting punished but who knew it would be this severe

jelena4me
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:18 AM
Bacardi, did George Bush really say that about God telling him to strike Al Qaida? If so thats really frightening. Can you find confirmation about the quote? Ive posted a seperate thread about Bush's quotes.

Bacardi
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:23 AM
Bacardi, did George Bush really say that about God telling him to strike Al Qaida? If so thats really frightening. Can you find confirmation about the quote? Ive posted a seperate thread about Bush's quotes.

Not a problem, I should have posted the quote.

http://www.leanleft.com/archives/001381.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_063003_ingrates.html

jelena4me
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:24 AM
I've checked the internet and certainly Bush is reported to have said that.

There is a word for people who hear voices in their head.

Its called Schizophrenic.

jelena4me
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:27 AM
http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd06302003.html

Mitch01
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:33 AM
Isn't comparing Bush with Hitler a little extreme?
I must admit I'm not looking forward to 4 more years of him, but it's always amusing to watch him give interviews 'uhhhh..ummmmm' and listen to him stick his foot in his mouth repeatedly ;)

Bacardi
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:33 AM
Other polticial madmen have claimed the same things, just look at Hitler. According to him, God himself had him kill all the Jews. Just read the Bible verse that warns of these people that try to say God is instructing them on what to do. I don't know why, to be such good Christians those that voted for Bush don't know what the bible says. I guess it proves they aren't really that Christian after all. :o

LucasArg
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:44 AM
I've checked the internet and certainly Bush is reported to have said that.

There is a word for people who hear voices in their head.

Its called Schizophrenic.
:lol:

SJW
Nov 5th, 2004, 09:32 AM
Bacardi, you're good to be honest. :)

jelena4me
Nov 5th, 2004, 09:57 AM
Well Mitch01, is it extreme comparing Hitler and Bush? Bush is a fanatical right winger thats for sure.

Read some of his quotes, Hes not a clever leader steering the helm of democracy and taking on board others views. Hes a man who is clear on his views and is convinced that he is right, and will act out his ideas and who is to stop him.

Thats f**king dangerous.

fried_beans
Nov 5th, 2004, 11:36 AM
i for one am looking forward to freezing my ass off due to global warming and his refusal to cut down on the gasses :bounce: i've gone to buy my ski suits already :banana:While I am looking forward to developing a melanoma.
Also, I can't wait for the Canadian agricultural economy go to shit becuase of Bush's trading policies.



BTW "Foreigners" have every right to complain about you moronic Americans that voted for Bush because you are the ones electing the most powerful man in the world and it affects everyone.

cheesestix
Nov 5th, 2004, 01:11 PM
Not a problem, I should have posted the quote.

http://www.leanleft.com/archives/001381.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_063003_ingrates.html

Gee, how surprising?

Both of these are left-wing websites. :rolleyes:

How about some REAL proof, and not just some fabricated hearsay? :rolleyes:

These articles have about as much credibility as that draft email hoax....ZERO!

cheesestix
Nov 5th, 2004, 01:14 PM
BTW "Foreigners" have every right to complain about you moronic Americans that voted for Bush because you are the ones electing the most powerful man in the world and it affects everyone.

No, you have ZERO right to criticize any American for voting in their best interest.

It's just so sad the way that some of you think that your opinion is any more valid than anyone else's. :rolleyes:

I don't agree with John Kerry, but if anyone wants to vote for him, that's their choice. To label someone an idiot just because they don't see things from YOUR point of view is just stupid.

Sam L
Nov 5th, 2004, 01:19 PM
i for one am looking forward to freezing my ass off due to global warming and his refusal to cut down on the gasses :bounce: i've gone to buy my ski suits already :banana:
Blair will have to convince him. I'm confident on this. Bush may not but the next American president will. I have hope on this, they can't ignore the signs.

Nastyafan
Nov 5th, 2004, 01:23 PM
These quotes are really shocking. I knew he is a crazy man but didn't know he has demonstrated his lunacy so manifestly. And the worst thing - it seems the majority of the American society are gripped by the same lunacy too.
About the comparison with Hitler: it came to my mind one more coincidence. Several months after his electing in 1933 he fired Reichstag and accused the international communism for it. Hitler concoct a spectacular trial against one German schizophrenic (I think Van Der Ljube or so), G. Dimitrov from Bulgaria and some else. Although the trial was a complete flop, that didn't prevent Hitler to ban all parties except the nationalsocialist one. Don't you find something in common: Reichstag - Towers, the trial-the debates in UN? Isn't "My struggle" Bush' favourite book(if he has read something of course)?
Hitler needed 6 more years to unleash SWW. How many years does Bush need more? Or maybe months...http://img18.exs.cx/img18/1734/smilie-negative.gif

nash
Nov 5th, 2004, 03:16 PM
Just read the Bible verse that warns of these people that try to say God is instructing them on what to do.
Which book, chapter, and verse are you referring to?

Volcana
Nov 5th, 2004, 06:48 PM
In a way I'm glad that Bush is left to clean up that horrible mess he made.What makes you think he intends to 'clean up' anything? Look at Afghanistan. Ex-Taliban are moving back into power left and right. All he intends to do in Iraq is terrorize the population enough that American companies can make money there.

HOwever, I could be wrong, and we'll know by January. Remember, elections were originally schedules for three MONTHS after the invasion. So we'll see if they even take place. BUt the next issue will be, what if whoever wins promptly says, 'leave. And dismantle you fifteen military bases and your embassy.'

If Bush is REALLY there to establish democracy, we'll leave at that point. Think it'll happen?

Cybelle Darkholme
Nov 5th, 2004, 07:00 PM
I for one think people should shut the fuck up about ebonics being a disgrace when our president speaks in the same manner.

Funny how so many trust a man who continue to acts like hes a cowboy from texas when he's thouroughly North East blue blood (well maybe light blue).

Cybelle Darkholme
Nov 5th, 2004, 07:04 PM
No, you have ZERO right to criticize any American for voting in their best interest.

It's just so sad the way that some of you think that your opinion is any more valid than anyone else's. :rolleyes:

I don't agree with John Kerry, but if anyone wants to vote for him, that's their choice. To label someone an idiot just because they don't see things from YOUR point of view is just stupid.

Whatever. Shouldn't you be out burning books in celebration? Your side did win right?

Dont worry I'll be here in four years ( i hope) to tell you I told you so when your president sends the middle class sliding into oblivion.

Well the only good thing is that my tax return will be looking very nice.

darrinbaker00
Nov 6th, 2004, 12:23 AM
No, you have ZERO right to criticize any American for voting in their best interest.

It's just so sad the way that some of you think that your opinion is any more valid than anyone else's. :rolleyes:

I don't agree with John Kerry, but if anyone wants to vote for him, that's their choice. To label someone an idiot just because they don't see things from YOUR point of view is just stupid.
Should I tell him that's his M.O. on this board, or should I just leave him hanging? ;)

fried_beans
Nov 6th, 2004, 01:02 AM
When something affects the whole wolrd and we have no control over it, we HAVE THE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN. You just sound so stupid. I have every right to think anyone who voted for a war hungry moron is just as stupid.

cheesestix
Nov 6th, 2004, 03:19 AM
Should I tell him that's his M.O. on this board, or should I just leave him hanging? ;)

:confused:

????

I never call someone an idiot just because they don't see things that same as I do. :rolleyes: If I get into an argument with someone, I might call them an idiot because of something they say (like a flaw in their logic...or perhaps they called me a name first).

But for example, with the election, if someone wants to vote for Kerry, that's good for them. But I never came on here and said "Kerry supporters are stupid. Anyone that votes for Kerry is an idiot."....but you see plenty of the reverse against anyone that voted for Bush.

Do you just make this shit up as you go? :rolleyes:

BTW, I notice that you're still singling me out. Not sure exactly why? But, uh, for the record, maybe I should just save you some time and inform you that.....I'M HETERO. Sorry to disappoint you, but you're barking up the wrong tree.

darrinbaker00
Nov 6th, 2004, 03:26 AM
:confused:

????

I never call someone an idiot just because they don't see things that same as I do. :rolleyes: If I get into an argument with someone, I might call them an idiot because of something they say (like a flaw in their logic...or perhaps they called me a name first).

But for example, with the election, if someone wants to vote for Kerry, that's good for them. But I never came on here and said "Kerry supporters are stupid. Anyone that votes for Kerry is an idiot."....but you see plenty of the reverse against anyone that voted for Bush.

Do you just make this shit up as you go? :rolleyes:

BTW, I notice that you're still singling me out. Not sure exactly why? But, uh, for the record, maybe I should just save you some time and inform you that.....I'M HETERO. Sorry to disappoint you, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
You bypassed Gregory Hines and went straight into Fred Astaire territory with that one. Anyway, you're always right, so I'm going to give up now.

Your right hand is female? I did not know that.

cheesestix
Nov 6th, 2004, 03:52 AM
You bypassed Gregory Hines and went straight into Fred Astaire territory with that one. Anyway, you're always right, so I'm going to give up now.

Your right hand is female? I did not know that.

If I'm always right, why do you even bother? :rolleyes:

Don't you think your whole "Gregory Hines" bit is just a bit trite? Obviously not. Plus, it's bullshit. You pull these statements out of your ass, but you never back them up with proof. Show me where I've called someone an idiot just because they don't share the same beliefs as me. :rolleyes: Yeah, that's gonna happen. :p (BTW, as if it wasn't already apparent, your "dancer" references also kinda give you away. :lol: )

Say what you will, but you're the one seeking me out. It's not the other way around. :lol:

Just out of curiosity, how many cats do you own?

Crazy Canuck
Nov 6th, 2004, 04:06 AM
Just out of curiosity, how many cats do you own?

:lol:

Barrie_Dude
Nov 15th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Actually I think the majority of Americans (59 Million plus) voted fot the right guy