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pierce0415
Oct 20th, 2004, 01:16 AM
For all of Na Li's fans out there, I just want to inform everybody that our girl will be returning to competitive action in next week's $50K in Shenzhen, China. :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Projected Seeds Country Rank

1 ZHENG (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20014055), Jie CHN 63
2 PENG (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100011008), Shuai CHN 85
3 LI (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20010231), Na CHN 92
4 SUN (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013057), Tian-Tian CHN 133
5 NAKAMURA (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35013005), Aiko JPN 141
6 YOSHIDA (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20001067), Yuka JPN 147
7 LI (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20008049), Ting CHN 165
8 LIU (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013027), Nan-Nan CHN 166


I predict that Na Li should win this tournament easily, getting revenge on Jie Zheng for the loss in Beijing $25K a few weeks ago ... :)

Paldias
Oct 20th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Good luck Na Li! :D

pcrtennis
Oct 20th, 2004, 01:20 AM
Go Na!! I can't wait for her first full year next year!!!!!!!

New
Oct 20th, 2004, 01:21 AM
I wonder what's the chances of her sweeping this tournament??? :)

Go Li Na!!! :bounce:

pierce0415
Oct 20th, 2004, 01:26 AM
The surface for this tournament is hard outdoors :bolt: ... isn't it a little cold to be playing outdoors in China at this point

Mr_Molik
Oct 20th, 2004, 01:32 AM
how come girls like zheng, peng and li are only playing in china atm? arent they allowed to leave china or something? :scared: :sad:

pierce0415
Oct 20th, 2004, 02:26 AM
how come girls like zheng, peng and li are only playing in china atm? arent they allowed to leave china or something? :scared: :sad:
Peng is allowed to leave ... she is in the qualifying for Philidelphia ... Li on the other hand :tape:

hotandspicey
Oct 20th, 2004, 02:33 AM
Peng is allowed to leave ... she is in the qualifying for Philidelphia ... Li on the other hand :tape: Don't hush.Educate us on what's going on. What's the deal??? Can't Na Li leave?? If not, why? . I hear so many bits and pieces...can you put it together??? What's up with the Chinese Tennis Federation?

Gowza
Oct 20th, 2004, 02:35 AM
its disappointing that na li wont play outside of china, she could do a lot for the sport in asian its just stupid for her to only play in china.

xcrtbckhnd
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:29 AM
Not sure this is true, but I think I saw somewhere that the top 2 Chinese are considered their "National Team" and are given more rights to play outside of the country. Can someone verify that? If that's true, doing well in this tournament could really help Na Li get some more play in international tournis. Good luck Na Li - I hope you win this!

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:32 AM
Na Li :retard:

I think it's time we start playing WTA events :scared:

esquímaux
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:32 AM
Ooooh, Na is gonna tear that draw up :scared:;)

xcrtbckhnd
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:32 AM
And she did play a Challenger in NY this year. So she was able to play outside China at least once? Perhaps playing in China is really partly her own choice then. I wish I knew more about her situation too...

CoryAnnAvants#1
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:42 AM
Not sure this is true, but I think I saw somewhere that the top 2 Chinese are considered their "National Team" and are given more rights to play outside of the country. Can someone verify that? If that's true, doing well in this tournament could really help Na Li get some more play in international tournis. Good luck Na Li - I hope you win this!
Yes, that is the case, although I'm not sure if it's just 2 people. It may be three.

Na Li did play in the Bronx, but that was out of her own pocket. When you're on the national team, the government essentially pays for the cost of your tournaments, but you give them a portion (read: the majority) of your prize money.

In any event, Na certainly has a chance to be in the top 2 (if not #1 in China). Zheng has about 110 points to defend until the end of the year. Peng has 65 points to defend until the end of the year. Na has none. If she can win these two tournaments in China (which she is more than capable of doing), she'll rack up about 90 points. Even if she doesn't win them, it's going to mighty close between her and Peng for the #2 spot.

The Chinese government may make an exception with Na though. They have even acknowledged Na is the best player in China right now. Also, Na is so close to Shaui in the rankings now, but Shaui has played 21 tournaments in the last 12 months, while Na has played 8.

PointBlank
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:26 AM
Straight from WTA Tournament winner back to the ITF circut

Elvira
Oct 20th, 2004, 06:06 AM
I wish Na Li would be able to play more WTA events, but if this is all she can play, well I'd rather see her play this than play nothing at all! :D

PatM04
Oct 20th, 2004, 06:50 AM
Good luck to her! Her first full season on tour is gonna be awesome :bounce:

Vut
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Go! Li , Jie and Viratprasert

Beat
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:17 PM
oh, just stop with this challenger rubbish. she's more than ready for the wta tour and she's not the youngest, either. if only she could move freely. :(

pierce0415
Oct 25th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Main Draw



ZHENG Jie (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20014055) (CHN) 1 :o
LAZARCHUK Olha (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20010840) (UKR)
YU Dan (CHN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20014049)
JEON Mi-Ra (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20004536) (KOR)

BRATCHIKOVA Nina (RUS) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20014765)
CHUANG Chia-Jung (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35012056) (TPE)
JI Chun-Mei (CHN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20014084)
NAKAMURA Aiko (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35013005) (JPN) 5

SUN Tian-Tian (CHN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013057)4
TAKASE Ayami (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20006927) (JPN)
DOMINIKOVIC Evie (AUS) :eek:
CHO Yoon-Jeong (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20005599) (KOR)

O'DONOGHUE Jane (GBR) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35011193)
SAEKI Miho (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20004549) (JPN)
YAN Zi (CHN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100012797)
LI Ting (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20008049) (CHN) 7

YOSHIDA Yuka (JPN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20001067)6
FUDA Ryoko (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35014357) (JPN)
WU Wen-Hao (CHN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013026)
HUANG Lei (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100014299) (CHN)

MATIC Antonia (GER) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013246)
YU Ying (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20008711) (CHN)
YUAN Meng (CHN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100011022)
LI Na (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20010231) (CHN) 3 :worship:

LIU Nan-Nan (CHN) 8 (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013027)
YANG Shu-Jing (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20014050) (CHN)
HISAMATSU Shiho (JPN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35006919)
SUN Sheng-Nan (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100005324) (CHN)

TATARKOVA Elena (UKR) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20004419)
FUJIWARA Rika (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35009246) (JPN)
SZAVAY Agnes (HUN) (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100031287)
PENG Shuai (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100011008) (CHN) 2 :drool:

DevilishAttitude
Oct 25th, 2004, 07:35 PM
Main draw

1-ZHENG Jie (CHN) vs. LAZARCHUK Olha (UKR)
YU Dan (CHN) vs. JEON Mi-Ra (KOR)
BRATCHIKOVA Nina (RUS) vs. CHUANG Chia-Jung (TPE)
JI Chun-Mei (CHN) vs. 5-NAKAMURA Aiko (JPN)

4-SUN Tian-Tian (CHN) vs. TAKASE Ayami (JPN)
DOMINIKOVIC Evie (AUS) vs. CHO Yoon-Jeong (KOR)
O'DONOGHUE Jane (GBR) vs. SAEKI Miho (JPN)
YAN Zi (CHN) vs. 7-LI Ting (CHN

6-YOSHIDA Yuka (JPN) vs. FUDA Ryoko (JPN)
WU Wen-Hao (CHN) vs. HUANG Lei (CHN)
MATIC Antonia (GER) vs. YU Ying (CHN)
YUAN Meng (CHN) vs. 3-LI Na (CHN)

8-LIU Nan-Nan (CHN) vs. YANG Shu-Jing (CHN)
HISAMATSU Shiho (JPN) vs. SUN Sheng-Nan (CHN)
TATARKOVA Elena (UKR) vs. FUJIWARA Rika (JPN)
SZAVAY Agnes (HUN) vs. 2-PENG Shuai (CHN)

Looks like only Jie Zheng can stop her here :rolleyes:

pierce0415
Oct 25th, 2004, 07:40 PM
Looking forward to showdown for #2 in China between Li Na and Shuai Peng, as well as Showdown for #1 in China between the winner and Jie Zheng

kfh_9118
Oct 25th, 2004, 11:54 PM
Zi Yan vs Li Ting 1st Rd :fiery:

Go Na Li :bounce:
Zheng Jie :)
Tian Tian :D

FLL
Oct 26th, 2004, 12:26 AM
Na Li will KILL everyone in this draw :o

grmbl
Oct 26th, 2004, 12:30 AM
Wow.. Strong draw....

Vut
Oct 26th, 2004, 05:18 AM
Go! Na Li , Fuda and Tatarkova
:sad: Viratprasert withdraw from two $50K in China!!

Chunchun
Oct 26th, 2004, 05:29 AM
Good Luck all Chinese!

wubenzhimu
Oct 26th, 2004, 06:11 AM
Quarterfinal

Agnes SZAVAY (HUN) defeated Wei NA (CHN) 62 60
Meng YUAN (CHN) defeated Yan-Hua DONG (CHN) 75 61
Ying YU (CHN) defeated Wan-Ting LIU (CHN) 64 75
Dan YU (CHN) defeated Lei HUANG (CHN) 63 26 60

wubenzhimu
Oct 26th, 2004, 06:18 AM
Na li got a WC for 2005 Australia Open before the $250,000 beijing,she ranked 145 at that time

Pengwin
Oct 26th, 2004, 12:12 PM
O'DONOGHUE Jane (GBR) vs. SAEKI Miho (JPN)

w0000000000000000000t?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

GO JANE

Sammm
Oct 26th, 2004, 01:21 PM
how come girls like zheng, peng and li are only playing in china atm? arent they allowed to leave china or something? :scared: :sad:
A lot of Chinese athletes in general can only perform well in China for some reason :rolleyes:

azmad_88
Oct 26th, 2004, 02:53 PM
idont understadn why is NA LI only playing in CHina

Steveg
Oct 26th, 2004, 07:18 PM
A lot of Chinese athletes in general can only perform well in China for some reason :rolleyes:

What about Olympic Games :rolleyes: . Not to mention other victories or LI Ting / SUN Tian-Tian in doubles everywhere in the world. And ZHENG Jie 4th round at Roland Garros. And SUN Shen-Nan victory in doubles at the Australian Open Jr in doubles.

I think that Chinese players are getting ready for National Team Championships taking place in 2005 (very likely Chinese players won't travel much abroad in 2005). I suppose that's why LI Ting and LI Na are partnering in doubles this week, to start practicing doubles together.

SWVWlover
Oct 26th, 2004, 07:23 PM
Any results?

wubenzhimu
Oct 27th, 2004, 05:54 AM
1st round
Li Ting d Yan Zi 62 64
Li Na/Li Ting d Peng Shuai/Liu Nan-nan 2:0
that's all I can find

ashwu
Oct 27th, 2004, 06:49 AM
it's just the money thing. that's all. and also prepare for the national game next year.
if they want to play aboard, they have to play qualify. li na not even in the player list since she's just back this year.

wubenzhimu
Oct 28th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Women's Single - second round

2nd Round

Mi-Ra JEON (KOR) defeated Jie ZHENG (CHN) 75 64
Aiko NAKAMURA (JPN) defeated Nina BRATCHIKOVA (RUS) 63 30
Tian-Tian SUN (CHN) defeated Yoon-Jeong CHO (KOR) 75 62
Ting LI (CHN) defeated Miho SAEKI (JPN) 63 64
Yuka YOSHIDA (JPN) defeated Wen-Hao WU (CHN) 63 62
Na LI (CHN) defeated Ying YU (CHN) 63 60
Nan-Nan LIU (CHN) defeated Shiho HISAMATSU (JPN) 26 62 63
Shuai PENG (CHN) defeated Rika FUJIWARA (JPN) 63 63


Women's Double Quarterfinal

YAN (CHN) / ZHENG (CHN) defeated ABRAMOVIC (CRO) / SZAVAY (HUN) 60 60
SAEKI (JPN) / YOSHIDA (JPN) defeated YANG (CHN) / YU (CHN) 64 63
CHUANG (TPE) / HSIEH (TPE) defeated LI (CHN) / LI (CHN) 63 75
HAO (CHN) / SUN (CHN) defeated CHO (KOR) / JEON (KOR) 63 75

pierce0415
Oct 28th, 2004, 03:34 PM
OMG Zheng upset ... no more bonus points for whoever defeats her in the final

Chunchun
Oct 28th, 2004, 03:36 PM
y isn't Sun/Li ting teaming up?

Experimentee
Oct 28th, 2004, 05:53 PM
I think that Chinese players are getting ready for National Team Championships taking place in 2005 (very likely Chinese players won't travel much abroad in 2005). I suppose that's why LI Ting and LI Na are partnering in doubles this week, to start practicing doubles together.

Whats this National Team Championships, and why would they not play on the tour just because of this? Its not that important.

I thought the National Team consisted of 4 players and they were allowed to travel abroad a lot, but this year even the top 4 arent playing that much. Last year Zheng, Sun, Yan etc had a crazy schedule at this time, playing so many consecutive weeks on different continents, but this year, nothing except Chinese events :confused:

I'm just wondering why the Tennis China site hasnt been updated for a while either. Are you just busy or are there special reasons for that?

Sugiyama=#1
Oct 28th, 2004, 05:58 PM
Whats this National Team Championships, and why would they not play on the tour just because of this? Its not that important.

I thought the National Team consisted of 4 players and they were allowed to travel abroad a lot, but this year even the top 4 arent playing that much. Last year Zheng, Sun, Yan etc had a crazy schedule at this time, playing so many consecutive weeks on different continents, but this year, nothing except Chinese events :confused:

I'm just wondering why the Tennis China site hasnt been updated for a while either. Are you just busy or are there special reasons for that?
That gold China got already I believe made China a great power in tennis already. There is no need to prove more. They dont have to send the team day in and day out to get the points if they already have a representation on the ranking. If Li Na keeps on doing well, China is probably going to cut back on sending those lower ranked players oversea.

Zhao
Oct 28th, 2004, 06:39 PM
Li Na is the one hesitant to enter the National Team...
the higher authorities has been trying to convince her that by been in the National Team her studies won't be affected becoz it is her first priority.... yet she's still hesitant... she took 2 years off to study and she says that she enjoys the peace n freedom to do whatever she wants...

pku
Oct 28th, 2004, 08:17 PM
I guess steveg means the 10 National Games. It's the most important summer games for chinese athletes.

Whats this National Team Championships, and why would they not play on the tour just because of this? Its not that important.

kyk710
Oct 28th, 2004, 08:18 PM
:sad: Chinese tennis makes me sad. They have so many talented girls - if only the were allowed to play normal schedules.

Elvira
Oct 29th, 2004, 06:29 AM
Li Na is the one hesitant to enter the National Team...
the higher authorities has been trying to convince her that by been in the National Team her studies won't be affected becoz it is her first priority.... yet she's still hesitant... she took 2 years off to study and she says that she enjoys the peace n freedom to do whatever she wants...

Na Li should really give the WTA tour ago and put her studies on the backburner for awhile. She's 22 now, and tennis really can't wait much longer. The studies can. Who knows what she could achieve on the tour. I guess it's all up to her. :cool:

pierce0415
Oct 29th, 2004, 03:36 PM
Quarterfinal Results? ? ?

wubenzhimu
Oct 30th, 2004, 04:10 AM
Quarterfinal

Shuai PENG (CHN) defeated Nan-Nan LIU (CHN)
Na LI (CHN) defeated Yuka YOSHIDA (JPN)
sun tian-tian (CHN) defeated li ting (CHN) 2:0( 63 63)
Aiko NAKAMURA (JPN) defeated Mi-Ra JEON (KOR) 2:1


double Semifinal
YAN (CHN) / ZHENG (CHN) defeated SAEKI (JPN) / YOSHIDA (JPN)
CHUANG (TPE) / HSIEH (TPE) defeated HAO (CHN) / SUN (CHN)

i know the result only

xcrtbckhnd
Oct 30th, 2004, 06:34 AM
Interesting semifinal match-up!!!!
Go Na Li!!!! Let's get to the finals and win this!!!!
I would imagine the pressure is extreme in this next match up. If Na Li can win she may establish herself as the best Chinese player.
This match could be an extemely "nerves vs ability" affair. It will be interesting to see how each player handles the situation. I hope Na Li can win this.

Happy Guy
Oct 30th, 2004, 06:39 AM
Na has a dual goal this match - to establish as the best chinese player and to impress the chinese tennis officials that she deserves to be supported financially.

Harju.
Oct 30th, 2004, 08:24 AM
Good luck Na.

Tennisfan-Mtl
Oct 30th, 2004, 11:16 AM
Na :woohoo:

pierce0415
Oct 30th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Go Na Li ... kick Shuai's ass

Chunchun
Oct 30th, 2004, 03:03 PM
make a all chinese final!

pcrtennis
Oct 30th, 2004, 04:02 PM
I would like Shuai to win, but Na will probably win and that would be great too!!!!!!

wubenzhimu
Oct 30th, 2004, 04:43 PM
Single Semifinal
Na Li (CHN) defeated Shuai PENG (CHN) 2:0
Sun Tian-tian (CHN) defeated Aiko NAKAMURA 2:0

double final
YAN (CHN)/ZHENG (CHN) defeated CHUANG (TPE)/ HSIEH (TPE) 2:0

Chunchun
Oct 30th, 2004, 04:49 PM
all chinese final :woohoo:

hope some yrs later we'll have an all chinese GS final

Vut
Oct 30th, 2004, 05:35 PM
Go! na

pierce0415
Oct 30th, 2004, 07:24 PM
Single Semifinal
Na Li (CHN) defeated Shuai PENG (CHN) 2:0
Sun Tian-tian (CHN) defeated Aiko NAKAMURA 2:0

double final
YAN (CHN)/ZHENG (CHN) defeated CHUANG (TPE)/ HSIEH (TPE) 2:0
Na Li :D
Sun Tian Tian :)

Yan / Zheng :bounce:

A Chinese sweep of the titles :wavey:

wubenzhimu
Oct 31st, 2004, 12:32 PM
go on ,li na

xcrtbckhnd
Oct 31st, 2004, 01:41 PM
According to the challenger forum, Na Li won this tournament. Congrats to her!!! Anyone know what impact this will have on her ranking?

Beat
Oct 31st, 2004, 02:07 PM
she won? :yeah: score?

pierce0415
Oct 31st, 2004, 02:39 PM
Great win Na Li !!!
Next tournament is next week's Shenzhen $50K.

pierce0415
Oct 31st, 2004, 02:49 PM
For next week's $50,000 in Shenzhen (yup, 2nd in a row), the prospective seedings are:

1 ZHENG (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20014055), Jie CHN 62
2 PENG (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100011008), Shuai CHN 84
3 LI (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20010231), Na CHN 92
4 GAGLIARDI (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20003520), Emmanuelle SUI 107
5 SUN (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013057), Tian-Tian CHN 131
6 NAKAMURA (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35013005), Aiko JPN 142
7 YOSHIDA (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20001067), Yuka JPN 142
8 LI (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20008049), Ting CHN 164

Basically the players will be the same as this week except for Gagliardi and Su-Wei Hsieh. Another easy win for Na Li :p

Please post draw when available !!! :wavey:

Paldias
Oct 31st, 2004, 02:51 PM
Good luck Na! :D Congrats on your ITF Title! :bounce:

vettipooh
Oct 31st, 2004, 03:03 PM
Congrats on another win. Keep it up!!!

AnDyDog621
Oct 31st, 2004, 11:00 PM
Win next week as well

New
Oct 31st, 2004, 11:02 PM
Well done Li Na!! I cant wait for next year's AUS OPEN!! This is one player I gotta see play live!! :bounce:



AUS OPEN is one of those rare WTA tournaments the sports channel show live... :sad:

Jelena Moon
Oct 31st, 2004, 11:29 PM
idont understadn why is NA LI only playing in CHina


Asians tend to stick to their own kind. I think they are afraid of white or black people. I don't get it.

SWVWlover
Nov 1st, 2004, 02:48 AM
:rolleyes: at Jelena Moon.

This whole thread has been discussing why they only play in China

pierce0415
Nov 1st, 2004, 03:44 PM
Finally we get the scores from last week's quarterfinals on:

Quarterfinal

Aiko NAKAMURA (JPN) defeated Mi-Ra JEON (KOR) 61 46 62
Tian-Tian SUN (CHN) defeated Ting LI (CHN) 63 63
Na LI (CHN) defeated Yuka YOSHIDA (JPN) 64 61
Shuai PENG (CHN) defeated Nan-Nan LIU (CHN) 63 62

Semifinal

Tian-Tian SUN (CHN) defeated Aiko NAKAMURA (JPN) 62 75
Na LI (CHN) defeated Shuai PENG (CHN) 61 64 :D

Final

Na LI (CHN) defeated Tian-Tian SUN (CHN) 63 46 62 :drool:

gorecki
Nov 1st, 2004, 04:39 PM
Finally we get the scores from last week's quarterfinals on:

Quarterfinal

Aiko NAKAMURA (JPN) defeated Mi-Ra JEON (KOR) 61 46 62
Tian-Tian SUN (CHN) defeated Ting LI (CHN) 63 63
Na LI (CHN) defeated Yuka YOSHIDA (JPN) 64 61
Shuai PENG (CHN) defeated Nan-Nan LIU (CHN) 63 62

Semifinal

Tian-Tian SUN (CHN) defeated Aiko NAKAMURA (JPN) 62 75
Na LI (CHN) defeated Shuai PENG (CHN) 61 64 :D

Final

Na LI (CHN) defeated Tian-Tian SUN (CHN) 63 46 62 :drool:
keep the winning streak going!

wishing good results for Su-Wei as well. :)

pierce0415
Nov 3rd, 2004, 07:51 PM
Main Draw / First Round Results for Shenzhen 2nd Week ... looks like Emmanualle pulled out ... Na Li and Jie Zheng headed for a semifinal collision as well as a quarterfinal collision between Tian Tian and Shuai Peng :eek: :mad:

1-Jie ZHENG (CHN) defeated Jane O'DONOGHUE (GBR) 62 75 :)
Olha LAZARCHUK (UKR) defeated Q-Wan-Ting LIU (CHN) 63 62
Yan-Chong CHEN (CHN) defeated Chun-Mei JI (CHN) 46 76(6) 62
6-Aiko NAKAMURA (JPN) defeated Chia-Jung CHUANG (TPE) 62 63

3-Na LI (CHN) defeated Elena TATARKOVA (UKR) 60 62 :D
Rika FUJIWARA (JPN) defeated Shu-Jing YANG (CHN) 61 62
Zi YAN (CHN) defeated Meng YUAN (CHN) 62 63
Ryoko FUDA (JPN) defeated 8-Nan-Nan LIU (CHN) 64 21

7-Yuka YOSHIDA (JPN) defeated Mathilde JOHANSSON (FRA) 64 61
Chin-Wei CHAN (TPE) defeated Q-Dan YU (CHN) 62 60
Q-Agnes SZAVAY (HUN) defeated Antonia MATIC (GER) 61 62
Q-Quan GAO (CHN) defeated Yan-Hua DONG (CHN) 57 76(6) 64

5-Tian-Tian SUN (CHN) defeated Sheng-Nan SUN (CHN) 75 62 :worship:
Nina BRATCHIKOVA (RUS) defeated Su-Wei HSIEH (TPE) 63 62 :confused:
Evie DOMINIKOVIC (AUS) defeated Miho SAEKI (JPN) 63 31
2-Shuai PENG (CHN) defeated LL-Lei HUANG (CHN) 60 60 :eek:

AnDyDog621
Nov 3rd, 2004, 08:55 PM
Didn't Lei Huang get double bagel in the 3rd round of qualifying also??

so that wouldn't actually be a surprise

pcrtennis
Nov 3rd, 2004, 09:20 PM
Thank god Ryoko won a match!! GO RIKA!!! You can do it against Na Li!!!!!!!!

Go Shuai!

gorecki
Nov 3rd, 2004, 09:53 PM
keep it going Li Na! :bounce:

Su-Wei :shrug:

Jelena Moon
Nov 3rd, 2004, 10:01 PM
:rolleyes: at Jelena Moon.

This whole thread has been discussing why they only play in China


um geez, someone needs an education. duh, asians like to stick to their own kind so that explains why she is only playing in china. do you need me to repeat?

Jakeev
Nov 3rd, 2004, 11:21 PM
For all of Na Li's fans out there, I just want to inform everybody that our girl will be returning to competitive action in next week's $50K in Shenzhen, China. :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Projected Seeds Country Rank

1 ZHENG (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20014055), Jie CHN 63
2 PENG (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=100011008), Shuai CHN 85
3 LI (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20010231), Na CHN 92
4 SUN (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013057), Tian-Tian CHN 133
5 NAKAMURA (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=35013005), Aiko JPN 141
6 YOSHIDA (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20001067), Yuka JPN 147
7 LI (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20008049), Ting CHN 165
8 LIU (http://www.itftennis.com/womens/players/player.asp?player=20013027), Nan-Nan CHN 166


I predict that Na Li should win this tournament easily, getting revenge on Jie Zheng for the loss in Beijing $25K a few weeks ago ... :)
Not to be technical or anything but in reality Na Li is on two different match winning streaks.........5 maindraw WTA matches and as of now, 6 Challenger matches.

So if she loses or not this week, she still will have her WTA record alive and well until 2005.

Experimentee
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:31 PM
um geez, someone needs an education. duh, asians like to stick to their own kind so that explains why she is only playing in china. do you need me to repeat?

The only one who needs to get an education is you. Get a clue before you start spouting ignorant racist statements :mad: :rolleyes:

kabuki
Nov 4th, 2004, 02:36 PM
Asians tend to stick to their own kind. I think they are afraid of white or black people. I don't get it.

Omigosh. My Asian father must have been so scared of my mother!

I hate this smilie, but this warrants it.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Jelena Moon
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:07 PM
The only one who needs to get an education is you. Get a clue before you start spouting ignorant racist statements :mad: :rolleyes:


Um please, that is not an ignorant racist statement. That is a true general statement. Stop being so naive.

Jelena Moon
Nov 4th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Omigosh. My Asian father must have been so scared of my mother!

I hate this smilie, but this warrants it.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

there are exceptions to every generalization. stop being so narrow-minded

kabuki
Nov 4th, 2004, 11:34 PM
there are exceptions to every generalization. stop being so narrow-minded

N E R V E ! ! !

Do you actually know any Asians?

You know you were wrong.

Don't even try to turn this around.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Nov 4th, 2004, 11:51 PM
Quickly changing topics before this gets ugly;)

Na Li beat Rika Fujiwara 6-1 6-4...very good win as Rika is a big fighter and can be very tricky.

Next up for Na is Zi Yan...she should be fine, but then Jie Zheng awaits. THAT will be very interesting.

pierce0415
Nov 5th, 2004, 12:39 AM
Na Li technically should beat Jie Zheng :p She has beaten Jankovic and taken Kuzzie to a third set tiebreak ... Don't know why she lost the Beijing $25K final to Jie as she has a bigger game :drool:

V.Melb
Nov 5th, 2004, 12:42 AM
Is she geting like $10,000 for winning one of these events?
With all these 50k wins she would still be making quite a bit of money. :)

Paneru
Nov 5th, 2004, 04:58 AM
um geez, someone needs an education. duh, asians like to stick to their own kind so that explains why she is only playing in china. do you need me to repeat?

How ignorant! :rolleyes:

All people of all cultures tend to stay to themselves
until and/or unless they get to meet people from different backgrounds.

Also, people do choose whom the want to associate with which
goes for everyone no matter what your race is.

I know just as many balcks, whites, and latino's who
choose to stay with there own so don't give me that crap! :rolleyes:


Also, I'm sure the Chinese government has absolutely
no say in where and how often she competes? :rolleyes:

The only narrow-minded person round here is you
to make such ignorant and blanket statements wheather
they apply to a majority or not because you don't know!

Next time you can avoid such responses simply
by making that clear when you choose to speak of such things!

Thank you very much!

selking
Nov 5th, 2004, 04:59 AM
all these names confuse me

Jelena Moon
Nov 5th, 2004, 05:30 AM
How ignorant! :rolleyes:

All people of all cultures tend to stay to themselves
until and/or unless they get to meet people from different backgrounds.

Also, people do choose whom the want to associate with which
goes for everyone no matter what your race is.

I know just as many balcks, whites, and latino's who
choose to stay with there own so don't give me that crap! :rolleyes:


Also, I'm sure the Chinese government has absolutely
no say in where and how often she competes? :rolleyes:

The only narrow-minded person round here is you
to make such ignorant and blanket statements wheather
they apply to a majority or not because you don't know!

Next time you can avoid such responses simply
by making that clear when you choose to speak of such things!

Thank you very much!

Um hello, I'm Chinese. I know what is going on here. Are you Chinese? You need to stop speaking.

Jelena Moon
Nov 5th, 2004, 05:31 AM
N E R V E ! ! !

Do you actually know any Asians?

You know you were wrong.

Don't even try to turn this around.

Um I am Asian so I do know. Are you asian?

Zhao
Nov 5th, 2004, 07:54 AM
to a certain extend Jelena Moon is correct
the chinese needs to come out of the closet
they prefered to stay in their country most of the time because in the case of
badminton...table-tennis.... they are the powerhouse... all the best players are there
and there isn't a need for them to travel abroad for competition exposure
another point is they like to have close door training and doesn't like other competitors to know their standard b4 competitions

Liu Xiang, gold medalist for 110 meters hurdles is one of the few chinese athletics to achieve success on international level... he achieved this by competing in more competition outside China

what Jelena Moon is trying to say is... Li Na should realise that her potential will never be fully exploited if she continues to stay in China and 'stay with her own kind' because she needs to get out of there and compete against the best... that will definitely raised her level to new heights...

Jelena Moon is not racist... he/she is just putting this point across bluntly :)

kabuki
Nov 5th, 2004, 12:34 PM
Um I am Asian so I do know. Are you asian?

Um, do you have short-term memory loss?

IF you are Asian, you should know better than to spread that kind of bullshit about Asians.

IF you are Asian, and you "do know," than you should also know that you don't speak for all Asians.

If you "stick to your own kind," and are "afraid of white and black people," that is your business. Just don't try and hang the rest of us up with your shit.

kabuki
Nov 5th, 2004, 12:45 PM
to a certain extend Jelena Moon is correct
the chinese needs to come out of the closet
they prefered to stay in their country most of the time because in the case of
badminton...table-tennis.... they are the powerhouse... all the best players are there
and there isn't a need for them to travel abroad for competition exposure
another point is they like to have close door training and doesn't like other competitors to know their standard b4 competitions

Liu Xiang, gold medalist for 110 meters hurdles is one of the few chinese athletics to achieve success on international level... he achieved this by competing in more competition outside China

what Jelena Moon is trying to say is... Li Na should realise that her potential will never be fully exploited if she continues to stay in China and 'stay with her own kind' because she needs to get out of there and compete against the best... that will definitely raised her level to new heights...

Jelena Moon is not racist... he/she is just putting this point across bluntly :)

Sorry, Zhao, your third rule should be to not speak in sweeping generalizations.

I understand your basic point, and it is absolutely valid. But generalizing and/or stereotyping is dangerous.

I will not presume to guess whether JM is racist, but I do know that it should own up for saying rude, inflamatory shit.

Paneru
Nov 5th, 2004, 03:36 PM
Um hello, I'm Chinese. I know what is going on here. Are you Chinese? You need to stop speaking.

I don't care what the hell you are,
you're still thick! :rolleyes:

BTW, I'm half chinese
for your info.

And if anyone needs to stop talking it's
you because you obviously put your foot in
it and are proceeding to put the other foot in it as well!

Paneru
Nov 5th, 2004, 03:38 PM
Sorry, Zhao, your third rule should be to not speak in sweeping generalizations.

I understand your basic point, and it is absolutely valid. But generalizing and/or stereotyping is dangerous.

I will not presume to guess whether JM is racist, but I do know that it should own up for saying rude, inflamatory shit.

Precisely!

The point would've gotten across just fine if
this person would've simply not made a sweeping generalization.

Zhao
Nov 5th, 2004, 03:39 PM
in what way did i make sweeping statements??
hello i am a chinese :)

kabuki
Nov 5th, 2004, 09:34 PM
in what way did i make sweeping statements??
hello i am a chinese :)

I was referring to JelenaMoon's comments.

I am glad that you are Chinese. :unsure:

Jelena Moon
Nov 9th, 2004, 06:42 PM
Kabuki just shut up with your attitude. I can say whatever about something I know about and if you don't like it then who cares. Anyways I didn't say I hate asians, i said they tend to stick to their own kind. there's a billion generalizations in the world, go attack them instead of being pathetic here.

Jelena Moon
Nov 9th, 2004, 06:45 PM
I don't care what the hell you are,
you're still thick! :rolleyes:

BTW, I'm half chinese
for your info.

And if anyone needs to stop talking it's
you because you obviously put your foot in
it and are proceeding to put the other foot in it as well!

LOL, I could say the same to you except you seem thick and incompetent of processing ideas and please stop talking because I did not put my foot in my mouth. That expression means that I said something and later regretted it. I don't regret anything so you obviously sux at english. Go take a class.

Doggy
Nov 10th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Kabuki you need to learn how to defend yourself better. Your posts are ugly. LOL

Experimentee
Nov 11th, 2004, 05:55 AM
to a certain extend Jelena Moon is correct
the chinese needs to come out of the closet
they prefered to stay in their country most of the time because in the case of
badminton...table-tennis.... they are the powerhouse... all the best players are there
and there isn't a need for them to travel abroad for competition exposure
another point is they like to have close door training and doesn't like other competitors to know their standard b4 competitions

Liu Xiang, gold medalist for 110 meters hurdles is one of the few chinese athletics to achieve success on international level... he achieved this by competing in more competition outside China

what Jelena Moon is trying to say is... Li Na should realise that her potential will never be fully exploited if she continues to stay in China and 'stay with her own kind' because she needs to get out of there and compete against the best... that will definitely raised her level to new heights...

Jelena Moon is not racist... he/she is just putting this point across bluntly :)

That is not what they were saying. They said "Chinese people are afraid of whites and blacks". That is ignorant and completely not true. Even if it is correct that they dont compete outside of China a lot, that does not mean they are afraid of other races. Maybe they are not allowed to by the government, or dont have enough money.
And just because you are Chinese doesnt mean you can make these comments, it is still racist whether it is about your own race or others. I highly doubt Jelena Moon is Chinese either, if you were you dont refer to your own race as "they" like he/she has been doing.

Zhao
Nov 11th, 2004, 06:07 AM
That is not what they were saying. They said "Chinese people are afraid of whites and blacks". That is ignorant and completely not true. Even if it is correct that they dont compete outside of China a lot, that does not mean they are afraid of other races. Maybe they are not allowed to by the government, or dont have enough money.
And just because you are Chinese doesnt mean you can make these comments, it is still racist whether it is about your own race or others. I highly doubt Jelena Moon is Chinese either, if you were you dont refer to your own race as "they" like he/she has been doing.


No i never imply that chinese are afraid of whites/blacks
why should i say that??
i am saying that they prefer close-door training,not wanting the others to know where their standard is, as well as, staying in their country to
compete ( look at Li Na for example) because in the case of some sports
they are the powerhouses... but for tennis... chinese players simply must
go abroad and compete... i agree their goverment plays a impt part when allowing their athletes to compete overseas...

i am a Singaporean and i am a chinese (as in my race)
i m commenting base on what i know

kabuki
Nov 11th, 2004, 06:26 AM
Kabuki just shut up with your attitude. I can say whatever about something I know about and if you don't like it then who cares. Anyways I didn't say I hate asians, i said they tend to stick to their own kind. there's a billion generalizations in the world, go attack them instead of being pathetic here.

Obviously you don't like being called on your bullshit... :bigcry:

kabuki
Nov 11th, 2004, 06:27 AM
Kabuki you need to learn how to defend yourself better. Your posts are ugly. LOL

Eat me.

kabuki
Nov 11th, 2004, 06:32 AM
That is not what they were saying. They said "Chinese people are afraid of whites and blacks". That is ignorant and completely not true. Even if it is correct that they dont compete outside of China a lot, that does not mean they are afraid of other races. Maybe they are not allowed to by the government, or dont have enough money.
And just because you are Chinese doesnt mean you can make these comments, it is still racist whether it is about your own race or others. I highly doubt Jelena Moon is Chinese either, if you were you dont refer to your own race as "they" like he/she has been doing.

Worse, JelenaMoon said "Asians," not Chinese.

Who does that include?

All inhabitants of the Asian continent, even non-Asians?

All people of Asian descent, including those that live on other continents?

Are we talking geography, ethnicity or both?

My point is, that generalizations and stereotyping are no good, whether you are talking about your own race or not. And if you are dumb enough to do it, then at least be more explicit and specific and don't include all Asians in your bullshit.

kabuki
Nov 11th, 2004, 06:34 AM
No i never imply that chinese are afraid of whites/blacks
why should i say that??
i am saying that they prefer close-door training,not wanting the others to know where their standard is, as well as, staying in their country to
compete ( look at Li Na for example) because in the case of some sports
they are the powerhouses... but for tennis... chinese players simply must
go abroad and compete... i agree their goverment plays a impt part when allowing their athletes to compete overseas...

i am a Singaporean and i am a chinese (as in my race)
i m commenting base on what i know

Zhao is not the problem here. Sorry, Zhao.

Experimentee
Nov 11th, 2004, 08:21 AM
No i never imply that chinese are afraid of whites/blacks
why should i say that??
i am saying that they prefer close-door training,not wanting the others to know where their standard is, as well as, staying in their country to
compete ( look at Li Na for example) because in the case of some sports
they are the powerhouses... but for tennis... chinese players simply must
go abroad and compete... i agree their goverment plays a impt part when allowing their athletes to compete overseas...

i am a Singaporean and i am a chinese (as in my race)
i m commenting base on what i know

No I'm not talking about you, I was talking about Jelena Moon when he/she said Asians are scared of blacks and whites. That doesnt sound like referring to close door training, it implies that they are scared to face others. Thats what people have a problem with.

kabuki
Nov 11th, 2004, 02:32 PM
No I'm not talking about you, I was talking about Jelena Moon when he/she said Asians are scared of blacks and whites. That doesnt sound like referring to close door training, it implies that they are scared to face others. Thats what people have a problem with.

Exactly.

Doggy
Nov 12th, 2004, 03:02 AM
Eat me.

No thanx, I don't want diseases from your pathetic ass.

Doggy
Nov 12th, 2004, 03:03 AM
Obviously you don't like being called on your bullshit... :bigcry:


lol, you suck at debating kabuki, this :bigcry: icon sums up your skills or lack of..........

Jelena Moon
Nov 12th, 2004, 03:15 AM
Obviously you don't like being called on your bullshit... :bigcry:

um what bullshit? I speak the truth. you obviously can't handle the truth so you attack like psycho with no life. i think the :bigcry: smilie represents your life. I'm not going to back down so shut it.

kabuki
Nov 12th, 2004, 02:29 PM
lol, you suck at debating kabuki, this :bigcry: icon sums up your skills or lack of..........

Spare me, JelenaMoon's lapdoggy, or should I just say Jelena Moon?

Your posts have added absolutely nothing to the discussion, and in fact you haven't introduced a single idea, just attacks.

Come back when you have something worth saying.

kabuki
Nov 12th, 2004, 02:32 PM
um what bullshit? I speak the truth. you obviously can't handle the truth so you attack like psycho with no life. i think the :bigcry: smilie represents your life. I'm not going to back down so shut it.

The truth? Who died and left you the mouthpiece for all continental and ethnic Asians? Personally, I am not scared at all of blacks and whites, but if you are, then that is your pathetic business.

Clearly it is you who cannot handle the truth, which is that you fucked up and you don't want to face it.

Own up, or if not, then keep your stereotypes and bullshit to yourself.

Jelena Moon
Nov 23rd, 2004, 01:38 AM
The truth? Who died and left you the mouthpiece for all continental and ethnic Asians? Personally, I am not scared at all of blacks and whites, but if you are, then that is your pathetic business.

Clearly it is you who cannot handle the truth, which is that you fucked up and you don't want to face it.

Own up, or if not, then keep your stereotypes and bullshit to yourself.

Kabuki you don't know what you are talking about, stop acting so stupid, like seriously, you're an idiot. I can say whatever I want about Asians and who said I was scared of blacks and whites? I can handle the truth but you cannot, that's why you keep attacking me. Sorry, but attacking me won't stop the truth. It's not my fault you are too sensitive. BTW, Own up to what? I truly believe this so I owned up to myself.

Listen if you cannot handle the truth, then shut up. And stop saying that I obviously know that I am saying bull shit because I'm not.

Anna F'd Enrique
Nov 23rd, 2004, 03:23 AM
OK, you know you have no valid points in an argument when you have to create two similar(ugly) screennames to attack an innocent poster with.

I think Jelena Moon has a point. There is no need for this fight. NEXT

Jelena Moon
Nov 23rd, 2004, 03:25 AM
Um LOL that's right. Kubuki and Kubuke and versions of the same ugly name and poster.

ashwu
Nov 23rd, 2004, 05:08 AM
...
乱七八糟

kabuki
Nov 23rd, 2004, 01:20 PM
OK, you know you have no valid points in an argument when you have to create two similar(ugly) screennames to attack an innocent poster with.

I think Jelena Moon has a point. There is no need for this fight. NEXT

Um, that would be Jelena Moon and Doggy.

Feel free to ask the Admins. for an ISP check, or a geographical check.

Seles3, you may not have a problem with JM making blanket statements about Asians, but I do.

When you have something more thoughtful than "JM has a point," come back.

kabuki
Nov 23rd, 2004, 01:22 PM
Kabuki you don't know what you are talking about, stop acting so stupid, like seriously, you're an idiot. I can say whatever I want about Asians and who said I was scared of blacks and whites? I can handle the truth but you cannot, that's why you keep attacking me. Sorry, but attacking me won't stop the truth. It's not my fault you are too sensitive. BTW, Own up to what? I truly believe this so I owned up to myself.

Listen if you cannot handle the truth, then shut up. And stop saying that I obviously know that I am saying bull shit because I'm not.

Can't let it go, can you?

You must have short-term memory loss. Go back and read the thread.

You can believe whatever you want, just don't try and hang the rest of us with your shit.

kabuki
Nov 23rd, 2004, 01:24 PM
Um LOL that's right. Kubuki and Kubuke and versions of the same ugly name and poster.

1. Wrong-o

2. Learn how to read and spell

3. Say something worthwhile

Jelena Moon
Nov 23rd, 2004, 06:31 PM
1. Wrong-o

2. Learn how to read and spell

3. Say something worthwhile

Lol, hypocrite.