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Doraemon
Oct 7th, 2004, 12:27 AM
I know this is a controversial topic and there's no ultimate proof for this.
But from what little we can gather at this time, what'r your take on it?

GBFH
Oct 7th, 2004, 12:29 AM
kinda makes me queasy to think about it, but my dad likes lezzer porn...i like lezzer porn....

uh, don't know if that counts, though ;)

AjdeNate!
Oct 7th, 2004, 12:41 AM
I dunno. Mom/dad aren't gay. I have no gay uncles/aunts/cousins that I know of. And for the record, I don't like lezzer porn. ;)

esquímaux
Oct 7th, 2004, 12:56 AM
There aren't any gays ANYWHERE in my lineage :shrug:. I believe homosexuality is a biological side-effect of having higher than normal amounts of hormones/pheromones/whatever of the opposite sex. I haven't read any conclusive experiments regarding this though. Shucks for all we know homosexuality may stem from being of the opposite sex in a past life; should you believe in that kinda stuff :).

AjdeNate!
Oct 7th, 2004, 12:57 AM
There aren't any gays ANYWHERE in my lineage :shrug:. I believe homosexuality is a biological side-effect of having higher than normal amounts of hormones/pheromones/whatever of the opposite sex. I haven't read any conclusive experiments regarding this though. Shucks for all we know homosexuality may stem from being of the opposite sex in a past life; should you believe in that kinda stuff :).
I was the Queen of England.... maybe that's why I'm old and gnarly and stuff? :p
:lol:

Emptiness
Oct 7th, 2004, 01:05 AM
This is gonna sound weird but sometimes i think its nature's way of combating over population. It happens with animals.

But its probably has something to do with biochemistry blahblahblah.

esquímaux
Oct 7th, 2004, 01:28 AM
I was the Queen of England.... maybe that's why I'm old and gnarly and stuff? :p
:lol::rolls::p Well in that case I must've been Marie Antoinette because anytime someone comes knockin' on my door tryin' to sell stuff (or convert me to their religion :tape: ) I'm like, "Let them eat cake! :mad:" :lol:

GBFH
Oct 7th, 2004, 01:59 AM
:rolls::p Well in that case I must've been Marie Antoinette because anytime someone comes knockin' on my door tryin' to sell stuff (or convert me to their religion :tape: ) I'm like, "Let them eat cake! :mad:" :lol:
you know the spanish inquisition would NEVER have worked with the church of england. they would interrogate people, 'TALK NOW!', 'but it hurts!' oh, *makes motion to loosen restraints* there you go!

good thing for you we're church of england!

'welcome to church of england, cake or death?'

AjdeNate!
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:01 AM
Cake please... but only if it's white cake with chocolate frosting. :drool:

GBFH
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:08 AM
meh.

forget about cake, give me a sugar cookie with dollops of colorful frosting on top. like the one i'm nibbling on now...shaped like a skull with pink/black/yellow/orange decorations. yum yum

esquímaux
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:12 AM
*sweet tooth kicking in* :drool:

esquímaux
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:13 AM
GBFH I've been meaning to ask you, who is the hotstuff in your avatar? :)

GBFH
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:22 AM
oh....you mean.....

marty-party :devil: :devil: :devil:

GoDominique
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:23 AM
Hmmm not sure.
Maybe these people simply feel that it's more comfortable to have sex at home than elsewhere. :shrug:

Martian Willow
Oct 7th, 2004, 10:33 AM
Aren't biological and hereditary the same thing?

CondiLicious
Oct 7th, 2004, 10:41 AM
Well, when I was 2 years old... I was obsessed with Boy George... And everyone used to call him my boyfriend and I'd get all embarrassed and confused because I thought he was a girl! :lol: So... I blame Boy George for my lesbianism. So it's environmental! But... 2 is very young... So maybe it is biological :lol:

Martian Willow
Oct 7th, 2004, 10:48 AM
I posted an article a while a go from from New Scientist which showed that it has been proven that in many cases, male homosexuality is biological. The more older brothers a man has, the more likely he is to be gay, and the article was about the reasons why. They thought it was to do with the immune system of the mother during pregnancy or something. I can't be bothered to look for it though, and it was very long and complicated, so nobody would read it anyway.

Darop.
Oct 7th, 2004, 11:48 AM
Aren't biological and hereditary the same thing?
Hereditary is when you hereditate a characteristic from your parents, grandparents, ecc...

Biological is something that happens caused by nature, opposite of something enviromental which is caused by the enviroment that surrounds you.

Martian Willow
Oct 7th, 2004, 11:55 AM
Hereditary is when you hereditate a characteristic from your parents, grandparents, ecc...

Biological is something that happens caused by nature, opposite of something enviromental which is caused by the enviroment that surrounds you.

Yes, but something hereditary would not be "something environmental which is caused by the environment that surrounds you", would it? :)

Truthwillout
Oct 7th, 2004, 12:18 PM
Plato is notable because he advanced the belief that some men are inherently homosexual, just as some men are inherently heterosexual. Plato believed that love between two men is superior to that between a man and a woman. Plato called this love "uranian" love and suggested this love was ruled by a different aspect of the goddess Aphrodite. At a time when male homosexual love was unequal between an older man and his student, Plato advocated for these relationships to become equal and based on reciprocity. Also, in contrast to Greek custom, he believed that these relationships should be life-long. To Plato, love is more than just the physical act, and the goal of love is the moral and intellectual improvement of the younger partner with the help of the older one. This is has come to be known as "platonic" love. Over time the term has become distanced from its roots, and is used to describe non-sexual love and friendship.
In his Symposium, Plato suggests that mankind was originally made up of complete beings. Mankind originally had three genders that were a fusion of two human bodies. Some were male-male, some were female-female, and some were male-female. These beings were round, had two faces, had four arms, and reproduced asexually. These beings were complete, incredibly happy, and even arrogant. This angered the gods who were incredibly jealous. The gods split these beings in half, which is the present state of mankind. We all search for our other half in hopes of becoming whole again.

An interesting allegory but it doesn't account for bisexuality

Helen Lawson
Oct 7th, 2004, 12:39 PM
I only can hope that Neely O'Hara reads this and gets Ted Casablana's opinion on the matter. He should know!

TimBo
Oct 7th, 2004, 01:08 PM
I have 2 cousins on my mother's side that is gay.. an uncle on my dad's side gay and then me:)

Helen Lawson
Oct 7th, 2004, 01:12 PM
This thread got me thinking, that movie "Yentyl" with Barbra Streisand. I'm not sure how historically accurate it was, but it look place like in 1910 Europe, and that cute guy in it, he was engaged to Amy Irving, but when her family found out his brother was gay and had committed suicide, they called the marriage off. I guess they thought it was biological/hereditary.

Amy Irving went on to marry Barbra Streisand, who was posing as a man! Her family doesn't want her to marry some guy with a gay brother, but they marry her off to a woman posing as a man? I never understood that part of the plot.

bionic71
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:19 PM
This inevitable thread pops up with regularity every few months.

Always been gay...as long as I can remember my sexual orienataion has always been gay.
My parents are not gay....neither has had homosexual experiences. I did not learn or inherit being gay from them. There is no evidence in my extended family of hereditary linkages.
My brother is straight.

Helen Lawson darl...love your posts! xxxx

"Sluggy"
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:35 PM
GBFH I've been meaning to ask you, who is the hotstuff in your avatar? :)

Its Martin Brodeur, a heterosexual males #1 Hero! Hes won several stanley cups, and he scored with his wife's sister!!!!!!!!! Big scandal you may have heard about. Gotta love em!

esquímaux
Oct 7th, 2004, 02:56 PM
In his Symposium, Plato suggests that mankind was originally made up of complete beings. Mankind originally had three genders that were a fusion of two human bodies. Some were male-male, some were female-female, and some were male-female. These beings were round, had two faces, had four arms, and reproduced asexually. These beings were complete, incredibly happy, and even arrogant. This angered the gods who were incredibly jealous. The gods split these beings in half, which is the present state of mankind. We all search for our other half in hopes of becoming whole again.Intriguing concept :). Do you know any books I could read that explore that topic?

Truthwillout
Oct 7th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Intriguing concept :). Do you know any books I could read that explore that topic?

If you're really interested I recommend this: Lysis, Phaedrus, and Symposium: Plato on Homosexuality (Great Books in Philosophy)
by Plato, Benjamin Jowett

GBFH
Oct 7th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Its Martin Brodeur, a heterosexual males #1 Hero! Hes won several stanley cups, and he scored with his wife's sister!!!!!!!!! Big scandal you may have heard about. Gotta love em!
:lol:

actually, she was his wife's brother's wife.

don't forget the gold medal :devil:

esquímaux
Oct 7th, 2004, 03:48 PM
If you're really interested I recommend this: Lysis, Phaedrus, and Symposium: Plato on Homosexuality (Great Books in Philosophy)
by Plato, Benjamin JowettThanx :)