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Fedcup
Oct 15th, 2001, 10:59 AM
Like last tournament in Filderstadt

Henin is always automattically substracted 26 points every tournament? Clijsters who has played more than Henin this year not.

Than Clijsters reached last year the final of this tournament and was now eliminated in her first match. But she doesn't loose points???

I don't get it. Can someone explain how this is possible

Gallofa
Oct 15th, 2001, 12:01 PM
Jannak has a nice explanation about how the rankings work in his site, you can see it at:
http://www.geocities.com/mayazoe42/2001_sanex_point.htm

Fedcup
Oct 15th, 2001, 12:29 PM
Thkx for putting link.

But in general I know the system. My question was more rethoric.

Shouldn't Clijsters loose points because she was eliminated in her first match and did'nt equal her performance of last year. She reaches the final. And normally everybody says than "She has lots of points to defend next year" But when I saw that CLijsters did'nt loose any points today i can't follow anymore.

The Crow
Oct 15th, 2001, 12:35 PM
I think it's because tourneys don't take place in the same week as last year, but it's just a guess....

Gallofa
Oct 15th, 2001, 12:38 PM
Well, I am sure someone who follows Clijsters' results can explain this much better. But, basically, the rankings are made out of the best 17 results that a player has obtained during the last 52 weeks. This means, that every week you lose the points you got the same week the previous year, as it's 52 weeks away and that result shouldn't be taken into account. The thing is, you don't necesarily need to lose those points in the ranking, as that result might not have been one of the 17 that were taken into account to make up your total of points... I think!! LOL! someone come in here and explain this better! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

And wondering about rankings, can someone tell me why Lisa Raymond in dubs only gave 8 Quality points last week?

[ October 15, 2001: Message edited by: Gallofa ]

auntie janie
Oct 15th, 2001, 12:39 PM
Fedcup,

It seems odd, but it is only because the tournaments are being played in a different order this year.

FOr example, Martina Hings failed to defend her Winner points at Moscow, but those points she earned at Moscow in 2000 have not yet dropped off. Why? Because the Moscow event was held at the END of October last year.

What I want to know is, will the MOSCOW, PHILADELPHIA, and CHASE CHAMPIONSHIPS points all drop off at once this year?? Because Philly and Chase points were earned in November last year, and this year the season ends two weeks earlier. <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 15th, 2001, 12:40 PM
the points which fall off are the points which were gained exactly 52 weeks ago
last time in 00 the tourn was Zurich and this yr it was Filderstadt.

so Zurich pts came off as it was played at same week of the year last year

Fedcup
Oct 15th, 2001, 12:55 PM
Thxk. I'm starting to understand this points system. I was wrong when I thought you could you only win or loose points if you did better or worser in the same tournament as last year.
So it's more up to week comparison.
I must say not a clear system at all. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Brian Stewart
Oct 15th, 2001, 01:59 PM
Janie, the players voted to have the Philadelphia and Chase points come off with this year's Championships. So, whatever points the players earn at this year's Championships will replace last year's Leipzig, Quebec City, Philadelphia, and Chase tourneys. That's why Hingis was under a crunch. Even if she defended all of last year's titles, she's defending a Chase title and Philly final in the same week, which of course would be impossible. Even factoring in 18th tourneys, etc., Hingis would have needed to add another event, like Leipzig or Linz, or have Capriati go out early at all of hers.