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LindsayRocks89
May 30th, 2004, 06:11 PM
according to Johnny Mac :lol: :tape:

Martian Willow
May 30th, 2004, 06:13 PM
...not just Wertheim who reads WTAworld, then... :)

SJW
May 30th, 2004, 06:14 PM
i thought he was her biggest fan....and said she has the best game in the world...and apparently that means since he's a slam champ, he knows what he's talking about...:)

tennnisfannn
May 30th, 2004, 06:14 PM
I have never figured out John. He acts as thought he is a big fan of Justine sings her praises to death only to turn around and make snide remarks about her. he may be joking but he has been in the limelight to know that the media don't translate jokes, they spin to make it all sound he was serious.

Eurotennisfan
May 30th, 2004, 06:15 PM
when I heard that I was like :rolleyes:

pigam
May 30th, 2004, 06:17 PM
don't worry people, John still absolutely adores Justine
He was on Belgian television 2 days ago, and had nothing but praise,
of course maybe he is just a hypocrite like some other people...

But he's right she used injury time outs oh, and 3 grand slams

Deimos
May 30th, 2004, 06:18 PM
i thought he was her biggest fan....and said she has the best game in the world...and apparently that means since he's a slam champ, he knows what he's talking about...:)

I don't think it's so much that he's a Justine fan, as he is a non-Williams fan. Otherwise, I don't think he could care less.

SJW
May 30th, 2004, 06:20 PM
I don't think it's so much that he's a Justine fan, as he is a non-Williams fan. Otherwise, I don't think he could care less.
again, about those Williams girls, he says some insane poop, then commentates for the BBC @ Wimby saying how mentally they are so superior, breaking their opponents down with the mind, physically they are out of this world, they are so good, etc etc etc....

i seriously think he has issues :)

Allez-H
May 30th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Like Pigam said,he still loves the girl..I saw him on tv too.Maybe he just wants to keep his popularity high in the US ;)
Anyways,he'll be drooling like a puppy over Justine by Wimbledon again.Anyone wonna bet against that?I'm open.... :hehehe:

SJW
May 30th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Like Pigam said,he still loves the girl..I saw him on tv too.Maybe he just wants to keep his popularity high in the US ;)
Anyways,he'll be drooling like a puppy over Justine by Wimbledon again.Anyone wonna bet against that?I'm open.... :hehehe:
actually i have videos of American and British commentary on last years wimby...didn't like her much there either.

but like he can talk. he was super-brat. :)

hingis-seles
May 30th, 2004, 06:29 PM
Is he PMS-ing again?! :rolleyes:

harloo
May 30th, 2004, 06:38 PM
Regardless of how H-H got to #1 she got there. Of course her sportmanship is questionable and she does use gamesmanship. IMO, it's an open and closed case. What's the big deal? Everyone knows this, but everyone also knows she's a great player.

hinquit
May 30th, 2004, 06:52 PM
Of course John said the right word of how Justine became number #1 and Kim
also without winning grandslam to be number at one time.
Anybody in his or her right mind will never agree that had Venus and Serena and
on tour last year, Justine and Kim could be #1 and #2 in the world.
You all know how Venus got there. She beat the then world number one Hingis
and number two Davenport consistently in grandslams (US 2000/2001-- Wimbledom
2000/2001 to get there. Serena did the same thing and she got there.
But which of the Justine fan or Kim's can show the credentials for their positions
number one and number two.

Rocketta
May 30th, 2004, 07:16 PM
Maybe John adores Justine and thinks she uses Gamesmanship? :shrug:

I don't think that is necessarily a negative to him....so I dont' see that comment as anything but a joke.

Justineladivine
May 30th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Yeah, Of course you're right, John, you just forgot bribing linesmen, umpires and crowds and psyching out her opponents with former Russian chess champions. In fact, she's never won anything, ever. They should make a special WTA rule to ban her from playing for ever. Oh, by the way, Johnny why did you write the preface to her book (2 full pages, mind you). What was it you said in it again? Oh wait, true, some of the GM people who love to judge and criticise don't even know any language outside English. OK, let me translate for you, cause the book was in French (it's also available in Dutch now). 'A final at Wimbledon, semi-finals in the other grand slam tournaments, wins against the best world players (did I hear the Williams sisters?) justify Justine's position at the top of this sport [...) I thought I had seen everything in this sport, yet I remain certain that Justine's best is yet to come.'

And how right you were proved to be, John

Now, maybe this was just a joke you had, I know you love to bait and taunt. When you were a player yourself (one of the best ever), they didn't call you 'dirty brat' for nothing, did they?

Justineladivine
May 30th, 2004, 07:33 PM
And yes, of course it's a joke for those who didn't get it. My, with some people every time you crack a joke, ring a bell first to alert them to it.

Lady
May 30th, 2004, 08:06 PM
Isn't she great then?? :)

She had 4 injury time-outs last year! I repeat 4!! And that got her to #1! :)
Tells a lot obout other players, isn't it? :)

Joana
May 30th, 2004, 08:10 PM
It's that easy??? :eek: :eek: :eek:
How come the other 2000 ranked players can't do the same? :confused:

Lady
May 30th, 2004, 08:18 PM
I'm wondering too, Joana.

And if we consider that 1 of those 4 was useless, cos she retired after one in Rosmalen, that means that even 3 injury ime-outs is enough!! :)

How good, that only JuJu was so smart to figure that out! :drool:

Greenout
May 31st, 2004, 04:46 AM
This is so lame. I'm sick of tv commentators/former players jumping
on the bandwagon of whoever is having a good run in a tournament.
I suppose all the Roger drooling has stopped to, while the Maria Sharapova
groupies are in force now.

It's insulting to my tennis viewing acumen. I know what I seen, I know what
I like, I don't need these former players/tv critics to try change my views
or give newbies the flavour of the week.

Is it just me or has TV/Press tennis commentary sunk to an all time low?
It wasn't like this years ago? If they loved Steffi, they loved her, if they
hated Hingis no matter how many tournaments she won- they still didn't
trust her, if they didn't think Henman will ever win WIMBLEDON no run on
clay could have made people say otherwise. What's all this Venus bandwagon
hopping now, didn't these very same people just bury her a couple of months
ago?

Hey-real tennis supporters- don't listen or read this crap- stick with your
head and heart!.

It's all just flavour of the day now, nothing insightful at all.

Eurotennisfan
May 31st, 2004, 05:12 AM
This is so lame. I'm sick of tv commentators/former players jumping
on the bandwagon of whoever is having a good run in a tournament.
I suppose all the Roger drooling has stopped to, while the Maria Sharapova
groupies are in force now.

It's insulting to my tennis viewing acumen. I know what I seen, I know what
I like, I don't need these former players/tv critics to try change my views
or give newbies the flavour of the week.

Is it just me or has TV/Press tennis commentary sunk to an all time low?
It wasn't like this years ago? If they loved Steffi, they loved her, if they
hated Hingis no matter how many tournaments she won- they still didn't
trust her, if they didn't think Henman will ever win WIMBLEDON no run on
clay could have made people say otherwise. What's all this Venus bandwagon
hopping now, didn't these very same people just bury her a couple of months
ago?

Hey-real tennis supporters- don't listen or read this crap- stick with your
head and heart!.

It's all just flavour of the day now, nothing insightful at all.

:worship: ;)

Kim was even better saying that "Justine takes time out all the time" yes: once she gave you a title after you lost the first set.

Greenout
May 31st, 2004, 05:20 AM
Oh..big deal. Go ahead gloat all you like! She's doing good everyone dispises
Justine, she's sick everyone dispises her, she's out everyone still dispises her.
This is surely the sign of success because in 2002- everyone sort of ignored
her as a "never was" and a "a choker". Good on you Justine, if they choose
to hate, your still a major threat in all directions. :)

WtaTour4Ever
May 31st, 2004, 05:35 AM
I think it was more of a dig to womens tennis than anything.....but he is mellow dramatic anyway, I can't stand him, but he IS funny sometimes.

Kart
May 31st, 2004, 05:41 AM
I don't see what his problem is - unless he's complimenting her.

After all, Justine just used time-outs, Johnny Mac used class A drugs :tape:.

Filip!
May 31st, 2004, 09:40 AM
John is a stupid hypocrite. He takes away credit from Justine!

Read this: she had 4 time-outs in 68 matches last year.
Read this: she had no time-outs in the grand slams.

It's a shame to say this!

volta
May 31st, 2004, 11:14 AM
according to Johnny Mac :lol: :tape:
not just him but Martina Navratilova said the same thing. that Justine just got #1 cuz the sisters were out of the circuit (she got it cuz she is a great player but all Justine Fans have to admitte that. and we arenīt taking her #1. she played very well to get #1 and deserved it but Sisters were out.)
but IMO Kim is a way better player then Justine and should got the #1 instead of her. but thatīs just MO.

Filip!
May 31st, 2004, 11:33 AM
not just him but Martina Navratilova said the same thing. that Justine just got #1 cuz the sisters were out of the circuit (she got it cuz she is a great player but all Justine Fans have to admitte that. and we arenīt taking her #1. she played very well to get #1 and deserved it but Sisters were out.)
but IMO Kim is a way better player then Justine and should got the #1 instead of her. but thatīs just MO.

Yeah right.

And Martina Navratilova was number 1 because the Williams-sisters were still not born at that moment. Martina deserves an asterisk behind her name.

Allez-H
May 31st, 2004, 11:53 AM
but IMO Kim is a way better player then Justine and should got the #1 instead of her. but thatīs just MO.
And on which part of the game would that be?Service?Justine has got a way better serve than Kim...Shotwise?Justine has deffintly the better shots than Kim...Fysical strength?Kim is fysically strong but Justine is just more fitter than Kim these days...Mental strength?Next question pleazzzzz....Volleys?seee previous question....Technically?Justine is better on that part of the game too...So what does make Kim a better player than Justine?Is it the splits she does :scratch:

saki
May 31st, 2004, 11:57 AM
but IMO Kim is a way better player then Justine and should got the #1 instead of her. but thatīs just MO.
Kim had her chances - three GS finals - but didn't take them, so why exactly should she be #1? :confused:

faste5683
May 31st, 2004, 11:59 AM
Bullshit.

:wavey:

Astro Jetson
May 31st, 2004, 12:10 PM
I.r.o.n.y.

Allez-H
May 31st, 2004, 12:12 PM
Kim had her chances - three GS finals - but didn't take them, so why exactly should she be #1? :confused:
She can do splits ;)

bandabou
May 31st, 2004, 12:43 PM
She can do splits ;)


:haha: :rolls: Youīre bad....

nygirl
May 31st, 2004, 12:54 PM
I didn't hear the comment so I can't say in which 'type of voice' it was said.

I don't think anyone in his right mind and with any knowledge of tennis would say she used timeouts to get to #1. It's just too idiotic a statement even for McEnroe. That's why I believe he was just trying to make fun of all the comments about her supposed 'gamesmanship'.

Sadka
May 31st, 2004, 12:56 PM
OMG :eek: :eek: :eek:

McEnroe :o

Allez-H
May 31st, 2004, 01:00 PM
actually i have videos of American and British commentary on last years wimby...didn't like her much there either.

but like he can talk. he was super-brat. :)
Well,at the beginning of Wimby he was talking to Sue Barker about who were the fav and all and he was like:"Well,Justine is one of the players that I like to..well..euhm..what the hell,Justine is my fav player to watch it's as simple as that"And he started the ussual drooling over Justines game again.But he did say that Justine wasn't going to win Wimbledon that year from the beginning of the tourney.By the USO he was the normal Johnny Mac again,but who can blame after that semi.He even said that he'd come out of retirement and give up his commenting jobs to play mixed doubles with Justine if she was ok with it and all.He also went to Justine the morning of the final to ask whether she was ok and all.

Greenout
May 31st, 2004, 01:02 PM
Kim had her chances - three GS finals - but didn't take them, so why exactly should she be #1? :confused:


Actually that's 4 GS finals. Remember RG 2001 against the Capster?


Where's VIGGEN?- I suppose we can bring back the :devil: Inc logo
for Justine again, now that she's back to the being the Robert Johnson
of tennis again, the Faustian tennis player, a member of the darkside,
Lucifer's favorite tennis star, and Darth Vader's sister. ;)

DelMonte
May 31st, 2004, 02:11 PM
i don't like johnny mac-- never have, never will. i don't care if he complements my favourite players or criticises players i don't like, his opinions mean nothing to me.

VS Fan
May 31st, 2004, 02:27 PM
The ONLY injury timeouts that were very effective for Justine were the SIX month absense of Venus and the EIGHT month absense of Serena.

Those were SERIOUS timeouts!

GermanBoy
May 31st, 2004, 02:28 PM
according to Johnny Mac :lol: :tape:I always liked Johnny Mac! :kiss: :angel:

Joana
May 31st, 2004, 11:42 PM
not but IMO Kim is a way better player then Justine and should got the #1 instead of her. but thatīs just MO.
I agree. Just like Sung-Hee Park was way better player than Steffi Graf and should have got the #1 instead of her. Just my opinion.

fammmmedspin
Jun 1st, 2004, 12:34 AM
This is the guy who used to halt the game for 5 minutes whilst he lambasted some poor short-sighted umpire in order to get his adrenalin levels back to the required level?

Martian KC
Jun 1st, 2004, 02:10 AM
WTF is john on? I bet he doesn't even remember which matches...................

and lol@thehatemongers! I keep spotting them in every thread about Justine!:eek: I guess I should be polite and :wavey: to them at least.

Habsudovafan
Jun 1st, 2004, 02:27 AM
DOWN with Johnny mac!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Greenout
Jun 1st, 2004, 03:26 AM
Oh! S***! Look how many times do we have to say this. All the
Sisters were at RG 2003. She won that event fairly in terms of the draw,
you can argue to the cows learn how to fly about the SF. It's not surprising
that the only people making a fuss or still are tend to be Wililams fans
and English speakers from the UK, AUSTRALIA or THE USA. Nobody
else gives a damn because they think it was a minor moment in the match.
Serena could'nt hold her serve in the next games. She missed the last
balls in the 3rd set.

About the crowd? If it happened to be another player other than an American
tennis player nobody would've cared less how they reacted.

Williams supporters? You have the right to be pissed off about that
the semi final. You lost, off course you upset- but stop discrediting
Justine's career.

John M is turning out to be the biggest jackass. Have you seen
his matches on tape? This guy was far worse than anything we
have seen from th3e 1990-present. They let this guy get away with
so much. He's a suck up. I'm disgusted at his new "pro American"
tennis angle for the American networks. He was all "Euro" at
the Australian Open. Now he changes his tune to fit the commercial
demands of American tv? Lame, very, lame.