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Grachka
May 9th, 2004, 04:21 PM
Aside from the possibility of British girls playing each other in the first round, is there any chance of British second or even third :eek: round matches? If the girls that should get wildcards do get them, who will do well.

(Thinking of Anne Keothavong, Jane O'Donoghue, Amanda Janes, Elena Baltacha, Emily Webley-Smith, Sarah Borwell, Karen Paterson, Melanie South etc.)

:)

Experimentee
May 9th, 2004, 04:25 PM
I cant see it happening, unless their opponent retires :o
Wins at 10K level are really different to GS main draws.

hoekie274
May 9th, 2004, 04:32 PM
I have some trust in the British players......Elena Baltacha for example. Okay, she was injured for a long time, but she is a really good grasscourt-player. She has the serve of a Venus Williams and is very offensive. Look at her results on gras:
Eastbourne 2002:
easy win against top 100 player Alina Jidkova
Wimbledon 2002:
win against top 50 player Maria Vento-Kabchi and Amanda Coetzer
Surbiton 2003:
win against top 100 player Samantha Stosur
Eastbourne 2003:
win against top 100 player Emmanuelle Gagliardi
Wimbledon 2003:
Lost in three sets from Jelena Dokic (seeded 11th at that time).

Besides that Amanda Janes can do some nice things. In 2003 she defeated Magui Serna of Spain in Eastbourne.

MLF
May 9th, 2004, 04:35 PM
Amanda Janes could beat a clay court specialist on grass if she draws one. She & Baltacha could get wins if the draw is kind. Keothavong is good but her main problem is she plays a pretty typical baseline game so those established in the top 100 with a similar type of game are always likely to handle her. I don't think ny of the others have a sniff of a chance.

Grachka
May 9th, 2004, 04:59 PM
I wouldn't dismiss Jane (O'Donoghue). She beat Conchita Martinez-Granados last week (on clay!) so she can cause problems for some.

As for the rest (Emily/Sarah/Karen) they have less of a chance, but with an advantage in the crowd and grass they might spring an upset :) I think Karen's game in particular suits grass.

alwayshingis
May 9th, 2004, 05:03 PM
Yeah, I think we need to establish a draw-rigging system to ensure all British girls face confirmed clay-courters in the first round!

emptyhead
May 9th, 2004, 06:42 PM
Dear dear, imagine, all you can think about if you’re a British tennis fan is, can we have a first round win. Shows the state of tennis in the UK, then again how can you promote a sport like tennis within the UK when the people in charge of it are the ones who are discriminating against ordinary people participating in the sport.

hoekie274
May 9th, 2004, 06:51 PM
Dear dear, imagine, all you can think about if you’re a British tennis fan is, can we have a first round win. Shows the state of tennis in the UK, then again how can you promote a sport like tennis within the UK when the people in charge of it are the ones who are discriminating against ordinary people participating in the sport.

Outch!!!

paul_masterton
May 9th, 2004, 07:23 PM
lucie and elena should of won last year

lucie had ai all over the place, was totally dominating then missed some easy shots and collapsed.

ditto elena, she had dokic on the ropes, and just when she needed it the most her serve let her down.

had they boht won it woudl of been "gb womens tennis on the up" instead, we got "british woman are shit"

anne should do okay providing she keeps her head in gear. elena and amanda could sneak a win, jane needs help, her game isnt great on grass. karen/emily/mel would do well to win a set, but you never know!!

emptyhead
May 9th, 2004, 07:26 PM
Apart from Tim Henman can someone name a British player who has actually won something worth mentioning?

Mateo Mathieu
May 9th, 2004, 07:40 PM
Surbiton 2003:
win against top 100 player Samantha Stosur
Samantha wasn't even in Top 100 at the time. She got cracked into the Top 100 last month or so.

emptyhead
May 9th, 2004, 07:44 PM
Now I don't mean some sheepshaggin torunament like the Outer Hebrides WTA satellite cup or naff like this, but an acutaully tournament
It's not as if there's not millions spent everyyear trying to teach a bunch of no hoper hooray henrys how to play the game

Fingon
May 9th, 2004, 09:05 PM
Aside from the possibility of British girls playing each other in the first round, is there any chance of British second or even third :eek: round matches? If the girls that should get wildcards do get them, who will do well.

(Thinking of Anne Keothavong, Jane O'Donoghue, Amanda Janes, Elena Baltacha, Emily Webley-Smith, Sarah Borwell, Karen Paterson, Melanie South etc.)

:)
yes, if they play each other

*Jool*
May 9th, 2004, 09:11 PM
Especially Baltacha + O'Donoghue and Keothavong can win a top 75-115

So, with a not too bad draw, it's possible.
I 'd say we'll see 1 or 2 in 2nd round.

emptyhead
May 9th, 2004, 09:13 PM
Theyre so bad even Canuckian players could beat the lot

*Jool*
May 9th, 2004, 09:24 PM
lol@emptyhead
go, Canucks !!

Dava
May 9th, 2004, 09:26 PM
I would like to see Anne, Jane, Amanda and Karen all win a match at wimbledon. If they dont win one there at least a couple of the 'British' season

foreva lindsay
May 9th, 2004, 09:28 PM
i hope elena wins a match or 2, shes really cool.
go elena!!!

crouching
May 9th, 2004, 11:52 PM
Baltacha can certainly do some damage on grass as she has a big serve and can back it up. The year she made the 3rd round of Wimbledon, she clocked the third fastest serve in the tournament... the Williams sisters had the two fastest.

Virginia Wade
May 10th, 2004, 12:06 AM
I'm still the best british hope for a Wimbledon victory of any kind these days.

flyingmachine
May 10th, 2004, 12:10 AM
I'm still the best british hope for a Wimbledon victory of any kind these days.
Please don't say that you make me :bigcry: .

controlfreak
May 10th, 2004, 12:32 AM
Apart from Tim Henman can someone name a British player who has actually won something worth mentioning?

Rusedski won his recent drugs case ;)

Grachka
May 10th, 2004, 12:34 AM
Apart from Tim Henman can someone name a British player who has actually won something worth mentioning?

Virginia Wade ;)

AnnabelCroft
May 10th, 2004, 12:38 AM
Apart from Tim Henman can someone name a British player who has actually won something worth mentioning?

I won junior wimbledon once...honest I did, I know that seems ridiculous. I also one Women's Weekly 'Best Hair Cut' in 1987...

SueBarker
May 10th, 2004, 12:42 AM
I'm bound to win 'Best Presenter of a Wimbledon Broadcast'.

I did also win the French Open back in 1976.

OUT!
May 10th, 2004, 01:06 AM
Dear dear, imagine, all you can think about if you’re a British tennis fan is, can we have a first round win. Shows the state of tennis in the UK, then again how can you promote a sport like tennis within the UK when the people in charge of it are the ones who are discriminating against ordinary people participating in the sport.OMG miracles can happen. I actually agree with you on something. It will probably be the last time as well. In sum, the British girls aren't good enough to do well at Wimbledon and the LTA needs to get its act together and pull us out of this sorry state of affairs.

WorldWar24
May 10th, 2004, 01:29 AM
Elena Baltacha definitely. If she doesn't draw a top 20 player she has a chance

vettipooh
May 10th, 2004, 03:26 AM
Hopefully Anne Keothavong can make a statement this year.

SpikeyAidanm
May 10th, 2004, 03:49 AM
O'Donoghue has the shots and the attitude, heres hoping she can string them together for a win :)

Gowza
May 10th, 2004, 03:59 AM
O'Donoghue has a biggish serve and so does baltacha, baltacha has had some nice wins especially on grass so she could possibly win a match or 2 however she's coming off injury and illness and it could take her awhile to get back to some decent form. anne supposedly has talent not sure about her i think if she had a kind draw she could win a match.

sarza
May 10th, 2004, 08:29 AM
I cant see it happening, unless their opponent retires :o
Wins at 10K level are really different to GS main draws.

yup im sorry to say i totally agree with you

paul_masterton
May 10th, 2004, 01:17 PM
hey anne won a 25k this year :p

usually we have one really good result a year on the grass

2001 - Ahl made 3rd round of Birmingham/karen cross coming out of retirement to qualifying for wimbledon and reach 2nd round
2002 - Bally 3rd round of Wimbledon/lucie almost beating dokic/pullin winning 50k gifu
2003 - Amanda coming from nowhere to qualify for Eastbourne/anne semis of surbiton

so one girl is due for a few wins at one event

emptyhead
May 10th, 2004, 02:13 PM
lol OUT, when I post my farewell thread, I'd say that will be the next time

I feel sorry for the British tennis public (some of whom are fantastic fans who really do deserve much better)
Even the way their treated by the Wimbledon organisers is a complete fuckin scandal, like making people queue for days to buy a ticket, then if it rains no redund, yet there's that doebag Cliff Richards sitting in the best seat in the house, just becuase he had a hit single like friggin eons ago, and played Steffi Graf at Celebrity Doubles one Xmas time)