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jbone_0307
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:21 PM
Shes missing like everything, when Elena does get her serve in. GEEZ!! Cmon Venus!!

jenny161185
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:22 PM
whats the score? I think Venus will pull it out :)

jbone_0307
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:24 PM
1-1. Shes had game and break points in all games.

DelMonte
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:24 PM
i am so nervous for venus! even though i am only following the match via the live scoreboard, i don't think i can't stand it. i think i might have to go for a walk.

jbone_0307
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:24 PM
1-2 now

esquímaux
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:25 PM
it's cute how Elena keeps double faulting :) don't ask me why :)

tennnisfannn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:25 PM
Both players have hit a litany of errors

Yak
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:25 PM
Elena is not playing well herself!! 5 doubles in 2 games :rolleyes:

DelMonte
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:26 PM
1-2 now

i don't think we are supposed to give scores in the GM section.

UDiTY
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:26 PM
They are both playing kinda bad....Vee should be up 3-0.

But it's hard to get a good rhythm when Elena double faults everyother point.

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:27 PM
LMFAO!
13 minutes of play and Elena has already 5 double faults.

Vass22
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:27 PM
No one can play worse than Lena. She sucks, and yet she's winning.

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:31 PM
I'm waiting to see the DF count at the end of this match!

Come on Venus! :)

Andrew.
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:31 PM
Gosh, those stats are ugly. I can hardly wait to watch on ESPN soon.

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:33 PM
6 DF's way to go Elena!

Yak
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:34 PM
It's only Elena's serve that is bad in her game today because from the ground she is on right now.

Andrew.
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:35 PM
If Elena has had six double faults, and 9 UE's, then she must be playing pretty well on all other aspects.

"Topaz"
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:36 PM
What kind of match is this? Did they just wake up?

sartrista7
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:36 PM
How in the name of fuck has Lena NOT been broken yet?!

Come on Lena. Serve. Over. Net. In. Box.

I suspect the end-of-match stats will be hilariously bad.

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:37 PM
cmon girls pick it up!

Andrew.
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:37 PM
It seems that as long as Elena gets it in, she's winning the point. So just get it in dear, don't worry about your speed now. :scared: @ Venus' unforced errors. :unsure:

DelMonte
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:38 PM
is it raining? scoreboard is stuck.

skanky~skanketta
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:39 PM
wtf?

venus, we know u're rusty, but this is ridiculous!its not like u to miss bp's like this!

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:40 PM
4-2 Dementieva... lol...

Andrew.
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:40 PM
4-2 Elena :scared:

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:40 PM
elena leads 4-2

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:41 PM
5-2 :eek: :eek:

But I must say other than her serve Elena is doing pretty well.

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:41 PM
7 double faults for Elena.
Yet she's up 5-2. :scared:

Yak
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:41 PM
5-2 :lol: But she's playing much better now :yeah: But Venus :o :scared:

ys
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:42 PM
Elena plays of the ground like #1. And if I serve 7 DFs in 4 service games but still hold serve in 3 out of 4 - give it to me any day..

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:42 PM
wtf? Venus :rolleyes:

Mase
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:42 PM
I mean Elena isnt chump change. Im not surprised, I mean if LISA RAYMOND beat Venus, cmon now. OF COURSE Elena is going to give her a hard time...

Cariaoke
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:42 PM
elena's serving like shit ran over twice and venus is playing like shit ran over twice. go figure!

Andrew.
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:42 PM
Hmmm....with that many gift's to Venus she must be playing hideous tennis to be down 2-5.

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:43 PM
7 DF's and yet 5-2 ? Venus feeling fine i hope :eek: :sad:

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:43 PM
Elena Dementieva: 38% first serves in... :o

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:45 PM
I'm surprised that Venus isn't winning this set against someone who has 7 double faults so far and a lot more to come.

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:45 PM
I still can't believe Venus hasn't broken her at least once!

Well if she's going to do it now would be the time!

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:45 PM
I expected this to be a real challenge for Venus...but I wasn't expecting her to be down 5-2. Pick it up, Vee.

Shawn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:46 PM
I still can't believe Venus hasn't broken her at least once!

Well if she's going to do it now would be the time!they did trade breaks

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:46 PM
I still can't believe Venus hasn't broken her at least once!

Well if she's going to do it now would be the time!
Venus broke her in the first game of the match, but Elean broke back.

WtaTour4Ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:47 PM
Man if Elena had a better serve she would REALLY be a player to reckon with....not that she is chump change now by any means......Girlfriend has a nice ground game. Venus...where are you at girlie.....BRING IT!!!!

Knizzle
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:47 PM
Venus is not moving well at all.

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:47 PM
Elena Dementieva has possibly the best forehand on the tour, my guess is she's dictating play with her forehand to Venus' forehand.

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:48 PM
Oops sorry I forgot she did get that first break :angel:

Well I hope Venus cleans things up for the second set.

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:48 PM
6-3 Dementieva.

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:48 PM
Double set point Elena


Elena won the firs set 6-3. If Venus wants to move to the semifinal, she'd better pick it up.

Knizzle, what do you think is wrong with Venus?

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:48 PM
win in 3

When was the last time Venus lost the first set yet came back to win in 3 ?

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:49 PM
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttt ttt

esquímaux
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:49 PM
6-3 :tape:

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:49 PM
I hope she can do it in three. Since her comeback that has been a little difficult for her.Come On Venus! :bounce:

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:50 PM
win in 3

When was the last time Venus lost the first set yet came back to win in 3 ?
I think when she played Francesca in Warsaw last year, but I could be wrong.

Yak
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:50 PM
Elena is on fire from the ground and even the serve is working now! 87% on first serve and 54% on second serve while Venus is 50-something on 1st serve and 20-something on 2nd serve...

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:51 PM
I think when she played Francesca in Warsaw last year, but I could be wrong.
No, Clijsters at Wimbledon.

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:51 PM
Gee whiz...I hope she settles down and comes back fighting.

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:52 PM
Go Elena! She needs this win.:bounce:

Mrs. Peel
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:52 PM
Stop playing shitty Venus! ED is pratically giving gifts with her service...what the hell is Venus doing out there?!?!?!

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:52 PM
Venus :sad: Where has her game gone?

"Topaz"
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:53 PM
@ 36-10
It's never wise to give up early on Venus, but she's not doing well at all at the moment. She can't capitalize on Elena's numerous mistakes; her own UE's are awful. One thing though, Elena is hiting the ball with authority; only her serve is not working, the rest of her game is flowing through, ...most of the time.

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:53 PM
atleast she held her serve easily . Lets see what she does with Elena' serve

Tratree
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:53 PM
Elena is hitting the cover off the ball once she gets it in play. Venus' forehand is pretty suspect. I agree, if Elena solved her serve problems, she would be a force to be reckoned with. It's so nice to see someone actually hitting up the line instead of x-court like almost everyone does now.

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:54 PM
Venus held the first game of the second set but she needs to start holding at love or 15.

Crazy_Fool
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:54 PM
Venus what is going on again :confused:

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:55 PM
I wonder what Elena could do only if she could get herself a decent serve. Her groundies are as good as anyone in the top 3

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:55 PM
Elenas returns must be on fire

Venus is getting almost 80% first serves in, yet is only winning 58% of the points :eek:

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:56 PM
Venus needs to clean up her game to take this to 3.

And what everyone is saying about Elena is true. Her serve is shaky but it's a lot better now and the rest of her game is working very well.

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:56 PM
Elenas returns must be on fire

Venus is getting almost 80% first serves in, yet is only winning 58% of the points :eek:
She had similar stats against the Chinese girl too :eek: Is her serve losing its effectiveness?

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:57 PM
Elenas returns must be on fire

Venus is getting almost 80% first serves in, yet is only winning 58% of the points :eek:
Her winning % on her second serve is even worse.

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:57 PM
What's wrong with Venus? Injury?

I hope Elena pulls through but an all Williams finals is more exciting..

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:57 PM
another easy hold

ys
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:58 PM
Venus serves very well. The serve is what keeps her in the match. Other than that she is getting outplayed.

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:58 PM
Venus is playing a much better second set. At least she won her game at 15.

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:58 PM
Her winning % on her second serve is even worse.
um...that's natural :)

sartrista7
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:58 PM
She had similar stats against the Chinese girl too :eek: Is her serve losing its effectiveness?

Depends who she's playing... Jie thrives on pace, because she rockets ANYTHING hit with speed back twice as hard.

Elena's just a great returner.

Come on Alyona... sorry Venus, but my other girl needs this win.

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:59 PM
Jesus, please Venus don't go out like that. :(

aerosolmajik
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:59 PM
what's the score now?

Knizzle
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:59 PM
For whatever reason Venus isn't moving well at all, her ankle is taped, but that is to be expected after Australia. I don't know if she is just sluggish or what.

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:59 PM
what's the website of the score update?thanks..

Jakub
Mar 31st, 2004, 05:59 PM
go Elena :)
win this in 2

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:00 PM
Venus still needs to make something happen on her return game, that's the only way she can force a third set right now.

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:00 PM
What's wrong with Venus? Injury?

I hope Elena pulls through but an all Williams finals is more exciting..
If Elena wins this match (which I hope not) and wins the semifinal, she is gong to get killed by Serena in the final (as I expect Serena to win her semifinal tomorrow).

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:00 PM
what's the score now?
1-2 Second set, Venus up

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:00 PM
what's the website of the score update?thanks..http://www.nasdaq100open.com/scores/

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:01 PM
I agree Knizzle, her footwork is very bad today....not moving well, not anticpating well either, her entire game seems a bit tenative.

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:02 PM
Jesus Venus

has Richard walked out of the stadium yet?

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:02 PM
She had started to look her old self again in the last match :sad:

Even her DAD thought she was back in her old form

Knizzle
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:02 PM
ESPN says Dementieva has more MPH on her strokes than Venus!!

Venus needs to hit harder. Get more swagger in her swing!!

WF4EVER
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:02 PM
I agree Knizzle, her footwork is very bad today....not moving well, not anticpating well either, her entire game seems a bit tenative.
Totally. Maybe it's as Cliff said it takes long with legs that long. But she's really not moving to the ball.

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:02 PM
Venus has to find a way to break. She needs that little safety cause her own serve is still to shaky. The only problem is her game is all over the place at the moment.

sartrista7
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:02 PM
Sounds like the same problems Venus has had in all her losses this year :(

I want Elena to win... but I want Venus to raise her game, too.

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:03 PM
Please break, Venus.

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:03 PM
She had started to look her old self again in the last match :sad:

Even her DAD thought she was back in her old form
COME ON VEEEE, GO FOR YOUR SHOTS :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

IF YOU MISS YOU MISS, AT LEAST YOU TRIED.

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:03 PM
At least she brought Elena's game to deuce.

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:03 PM
Venus upping the decimals on the grunt now.

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:03 PM
No need to cry tears for Venus, I know that she is just coming back from injury...but you cant feel sorry for someone who knows they have a problem and wont fix it :rolleyes:

Venus is just not ambitious right now...maybe when she sees her ranking stuck outside the top ten, she will wake up.

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:03 PM
Bp

cool bird
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Well looks like venus is gonna have to fight hard

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Go Elena!Finish her.

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Vee breaks 3-1

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Venus secured the break, but it won't mean anything unless she holds.

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
15-40 to the break

CMON VENUS WAKE UP! :)

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Seems the crowd is rooting for the Ruskie

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Go Elena!Finish her.
YEAA VENUS BROKE TO GO UP 3-1 :bounce: :bounce:

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
A break! Ok Venus now consoladate please

RAA
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
get your ACT together Venus!!
my vcr is actually WORKING today and this is what i'm gonna get??????????

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Venus broke for 3-1, yes, Elena double faulted on breakpoint. :p

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Great. She has the break. Maybe she can start getting some confidence and take this to a third set. I'm glad that I'm not watching this. I'd probably be screaming at the tv.

GANGSTABACKHAND!
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
C'mon Venus!! I've Got Tickets To The Final!!! Do It For Me!!!

Dava
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:05 PM
Come on Elena, get it together again.

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:05 PM
Seems the crowd is rooting for the Ruskie
How is that surprising :rolleyes:

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:05 PM
now hold your serve :)

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:05 PM
Damn, the scoreboard takes so long. It refreshed every 60 seconds yesterday and now they took the 60 seconds off and now it's every 90 seconds.

sartrista7
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:05 PM
Venus broke for 3-1, yes, Elena double faulted on breakpoint. :p

Oh good GOD, Elena :rolleyes:

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:06 PM
Well looks like venus is gonna have to fight hard
For some reason she does when she plays Elena and I don't know why.
BTW 15-30 on Venus's serve.:fiery:

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:06 PM
Elena D, winning DF war 8-3
The match,

But Venus winning the UE battle!

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:06 PM
15-40 Venus :sad:

servenrichie
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:06 PM
If Elena wins this match (which I hope not) and wins the semifinal, she is gong to get killed by Serena in the final (as I expect Serena to win her semifinal tomorrow).Oh jeez, move away with your inccessant forecasts. You do nothing but jinx them. I really hope they do take their opponents more serious than you do. Shame on you:devil:

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:06 PM
I cannot believe this. The scoreboard shows Dementieva with break points. C'mon Venus.

sartrista7
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:06 PM
Damn, the scoreboard takes so long. It refreshed every 60 seconds yesterday and now they took the 60 seconds off and now it's every 90 seconds.

You can manually refresh it too... that works if it all gets too tense.

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:07 PM
Ugh.

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:07 PM
How is that surprising :rolleyes:

I never said it was...Nor am I surprised.:tape:

Dava
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:07 PM
Good Girl LENA!!!!

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:07 PM
Elena broke back, so Venus will just have to break again.


It was her first bad game of the set.

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:07 PM
She surrendered the break back so easily

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:07 PM
she is down 2BP's typical...this shit is not even comical :fiery:

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:07 PM
oh dear here we go again

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:07 PM
Venus :sad: girl you needed that.

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:08 PM
I never said it was...Nor am I surprised.:tape:
Just checking ;)

treufreund
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:08 PM
Venus's forehand and second serves are haunting her.

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:08 PM
Elena broke back.

servenrichie
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:08 PM
Seems the crowd is rooting for the RuskieSo what´s new? Meanwhile Venus is supposed to be the underdog in this match:cool:

esquímaux
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:09 PM
My mom thinks Venus is tired, I have to agree :o

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:10 PM
Venus making stoopid UE's

cool bird
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:10 PM
:lol: I dont mind if some ones beat venus cus they are just to good on the day but really

RAA
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:10 PM
what the F is she TIRED from??????????????

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:10 PM
Elena holds easily . This is not looking good .....ah well Venus is improving , she made the QF's in her last tournament and now she has atleast made the SF's . Soon she will be winning tournaments

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:10 PM
a set down 3-3....Venus better buck up her ideas or say bubye to miami

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
One of these days...one of these loses will make the light go off in Vee's head ;)

Maybe then, she will take some time to work on her forehand and serve...just maybe

Dava
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
Come on Lena, get stuck into her serve.

Knizzle
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
Venus, just do what you know you can do, PLEASE!!

Cam'ron Giles
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
:rolleyes:

WF4EVER
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
The tale of the second serve. If you look at the stats you'd think Venus was winning this match. She has more winners, less double faults, more aces, better first serve.

This is ridiculous. Is this the shape she intends to play FedCup in? That's on clay! If she can't pull it together on a hard court in Miami (her favourite court, I'm sure) how will she play on clay?

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
3-3

servenrichie
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
My mom thinks Venus is tired, I have to agree :oWhy, what has she been doing? definitely not playing tennis:fiery:

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
She MUST hold here

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:11 PM
Venus has been so streaky in her comeback. Good in one match and then terrible in another.

She's really got to pick things up!!! Vamos:bounce: :bounce:

Glenn
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:12 PM
Elena holds easily . This is not looking good .....ah well Venus is improving , she made the QF's in her last tournament and now she has atleast made the SF's . Soon she will be winning tournaments
She's in the QF right now...

Dava
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:12 PM
Come on ELENA break!!!!

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:12 PM
She MUST hold here
She's up 30 love so far :tape:

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:12 PM
Venus holds 4-3

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:12 PM
Venus Williams "Give it away" - Red Hot Chili Peppers

lizchris
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:12 PM
Venus held easily. She leads 4-3.

servenrichie
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:12 PM
One of these days...one of these loses will make the light go off in Vee's head ;)

Maybe then, she will take some time to work on her forehand and serve...just maybeI agree. She has to decide which direction she wants to go:fiery:

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:13 PM
She held...Hurrah!!!

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:13 PM
So what´s new? Meanwhile Venus is supposed to be the underdog in this match:cool:
In all aspects, Elena is the underdog. When was the last time she won over a Williams? Has Elena been playing terrific since the start of the season? No. So, technically Elena is the underdog.

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:13 PM
Any updates?

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:13 PM
She held :bounce:

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:13 PM
now 4-3. break again Venus

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:13 PM
How is Venus tired? Didn't she had an easy win over last time?

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:13 PM
Even though Vee has a big first serve, I never thought she was good at mixing up the placement on it...she could learn so much from Rena...where that is concerned.

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:14 PM
On Serve in the 2nd 3-4 Demtieva serving.

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:14 PM
She held :bounce:
Break back Vee :bounce:

GANGSTABACKHAND!
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:14 PM
I'm So Upset Right Now!! I'm At Work And I'm Not Answering The Phone, These Damn Clients Will Have To Wait!! I'm So Upset Right Now!!

V&SGotItGoingOn
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:14 PM
Come on Vee, break her now and then hold this serve and tie up this match!!!!!!!

ys
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:14 PM
One thing that seems certain to be different between Venus of old and Venus is footspeed. In January injury could have been used as an excuse. But should it still be used? In terms of footspeed Venus is halfway between Venus of old and Davenport.

GANGSTABACKHAND!
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:14 PM
C'mon Venus!!!

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:14 PM
Come on Vee one more break and hold.

esquímaux
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:14 PM
She's probably tired from years of competitive, tour level tennis; have you tried it before ;)

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:15 PM
I want her to get tired of losing!!!

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:15 PM
Even though Vee has a big first serve, I never thought she was good at mixing up the placement on it...she could learn so much from Rena...where that is concerned.
She can learn so much from Serena in a lot of things but i agree i wish she'd bring a lil variety in her serves

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:16 PM
Venus' losing footspeed at 23 ? WTF

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:16 PM
One thing that seems certain to be different between Venus of old and Venus is footspeed. In January injury could have been used as an excuse. But should it still be used? In terms of footspeed Venus is halfway between Venus of old and Davenport.
OMG I'm so sad right now but just the way you phrased that made me :lol: :lol: Thank you for that. :)

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:16 PM
Elena taking adv. of every short ball Venus not pouncing!

servenrichie
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:16 PM
In all aspects, Elena is the underdog. When was the last time she won over a Williams? Has Elena been playing terrific since the start of the season? No. So, technically Elena is the underdog.What? do you know the definition of underdog. Venus is lowly ranked, has been injured in the last 8 months. Elena on the other hand has been paying good tennis in the last few months, ranked in the top ten (if I am not mistaken), why would she be the underdog here?

"Topaz"
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:16 PM
At 4-3 Vee, 2nd set
Winners-UE -->Vee: 17-24 , Elena: 13-15
Not a good picture for Venus. But she's not out yet.

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:16 PM
Break Her Serve Dammit!!!

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:17 PM
Venus will lose this match

RAA
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:17 PM
look all due respect to elena d.. but venus should not be losing this match. I know elena has solid groundies and an all around decent game.. but COME ON VENUS. you hafta pull this out.

Knizzle
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:17 PM
Venus moving backward instead of forward!!

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:17 PM
easy hold for elena 4-4 :rolleyes:

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:17 PM
It's like she's afraid to step into the court

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:17 PM
how Elena is managing to get by on her serve i dont know. her stats are strange

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:17 PM
OK now I can't watch. Unless she can hold serve....Venus

esquímaux
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:17 PM
Venus will lose this match
I had that feeling since game one :o

cometz9
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
venus:fiery:

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
make or break time for Venus

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
Come On Veeeee

cool bird
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
The way i see it is has lost something. I dont know what it is but i really belive that Venus may never be the tennis player she once was

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
Down 15-30 :sad:

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
Venus will lose this match
she needs to...she needs a kick in her ass...

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
Playing Dem's backhand too much ...big mistake

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:19 PM
Venus when you needed to clean up your serve

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:19 PM
2 mp's elena ...LOL

bandabou
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:19 PM
Hmmm....this is really getting old. Same story: second-serve and forehand, yet Venus still can´t figure it out?! How can Elena with double digits in df´s be winning this?!

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:19 PM
15-40

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:19 PM
Goodness gracious. I'm dying over here.

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:19 PM
I give up :(

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:19 PM
She's probably tired from years of competitive, tour level tennis; have you tried it before ;)
Uhuh. It must be that. How foolish of me.:lol:

cometz9
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
:sad:

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
2 mp's elena ...LOL
BP's its 4-4

Mrs. Peel
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
29 UE's :rolleyes:

Knizzle
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
This is one of the worst matches I have ever seen Venus play.

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
6-3 5-4 elena

esquímaux
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
Playing Dem's backhand too much ...big mistake
don't forget that nasty inside-out forehand of Elena's ;)

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
Elena 5-4 serving for the match

treufreund
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
alyona breaks with persistence and help from Venus's forehand

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
looks like she chose "break" instead of "make"

Wojtek
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
Venus :rolleyes:

Dava
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
Go Elena! Aaavvv It!

cheesestix
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
Elena up 5-4 in the second!

I'm loving it! Go Elena! Finish her!

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

Mase
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
5-4......... WOW and Elena was 9 doubles.. :eek: What an ugly match!

Yak
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:20 PM
I've never seen a forehand that bad!!! It's unbelievable :eek: She is missing everything on that side!

Go Elena!!

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
Bye Venus, see ya next time. COME ON SERENA, WIN THIS TOURNAMENT!!!!

Mrs. Peel
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
buh-bye Venus! :sad:

BK4ever
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
Oh well...this is an awful match by her, I don't know what else she needs to happen for her to know that she needs to put in some hard work...

sartrista7
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
Come on Alyona. Not over yet. You're relying on your serve now :tape:

Wojtek
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
Break her Venus

tenn_ace
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
Lena broke :bounce: :banana:

Yak
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
5-4......... WOW and Elena was 9 doubles.. :eek: What an ugly match!
8 of these doubles were in the first three service games of Elena so since then she really cleaned up her game. Her ground game is AWSOME today!!

esquímaux
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
:o

"Topaz"
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
4-5 Vee. Yup, I think she's done. She played so badly my heart isn't hurting.

Couver
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:22 PM
Well I would expect Venus to pull something out, but with the way she's been returning her chances look grim.

But there is always hope.

WF4EVER
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:22 PM
You know, I'd rather see Vee play well and lose. This is just pathetic. I wonder when she'll get tired of losing to people who shouldn't be beating her.

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:22 PM
15-0 :sad:

Janet
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:23 PM
Oh, will guys maybe it's a sign we all seeing for Venus maybe she will quite tennis soon.........

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:23 PM
This match reminds me of her match against Meghan here last year

15-30 atleast she is fighting

LucasArg
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:23 PM
OMG Vee

esquímaux
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:24 PM
Elena hit a funky serve on 15-30 :eek:

cometz9
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:24 PM
2bps for venus take it

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:24 PM
15-40 Vee

Dava
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:24 PM
FUCK sake Lena dont choke!!!!

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:24 PM
Could she possibly break?

Wojtek
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
2 bp Venus

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
Two BP's to make it 5-5

cool bird
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
See ya venus

Knizzle
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
Problem is not Venus' FH it's her overall footwork and moving into her shots.

Dava
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
30-40

cheesestix
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
It's not like Venus is the only one playing crappy. Elena ain't looking so hot herself.

45% on first serve? 9 double faults?

I thought that Venus at 50% could beat most of the other women at 100%????? Elena ain't even at 100%, so what gives????

Go Elena!

SerialKiller#69
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
C'mon Venus! At least, try to lose at a better scoreline. How about 6-3 7-6.

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
don't forget that nasty inside-out forehand of Elena's ;)

I haven't...I still think it's a mistake to help your oppoent build confidence on thier weaker wing and that's what Venus is doing giving Dem. all those short non penetrating shots to the backhand.


Venus breaks

cometz9
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
5-5 cmon venus

DeDe4925
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
She Broke Its 5-5

LucasArg
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
Venus broke 5-5:p

Dava
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
SHIT ALYONA!!!! Come on break back and take this match by the scruff of the neck!!!

nikita771
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:25 PM
For those who are watching the match - did Venus pick it up or did Dementieva get nervous about closing it out?

DA FOREHAND
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:26 PM
Reminds me of the Agassi match from yesterday

jay_k
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:26 PM
5-5 it is

SJW
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:26 PM
cmon Venus fight like the champ you are

Wojtek
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:26 PM
Come on Venus now

LucasArg
Mar 31st, 2004, 06:26 PM
Come on Vee!!! you can pull it out!!! :wavey: