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Volcana
Feb 22nd, 2004, 11:21 PM
S Williams - V Williams - Sharapova
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23 xxxx xxx - 2003 _11
22 2003 __3 - 2002 __2
21 2002 __1 - 2001 __3
20 2001 __6 - 2000 __3
19 2000 __6 - 1999 __3
18 1999 __4 - 1998 __5
17 1998 _20 - 1997 _22
16 1997 _99 - 1996 204 - 2003 _32
15 1996 N/R - 1995 204 - 2002 186

This is a little misleading. Venus only played six tournaments the year that ended when she was 16, and only 13 the nest. Maria is carrying 16 right now. WHen the year ends she'll be 17.

However, the reality is she's 16 years old and in the top 25. She'll likely end this year in the top twenty. Her ppt is only 69, so she still has a ways to go (Lindsay's is 190, for example.

I'm not ready to say 'GS winner' yet, but she's on the move.

starr
Feb 22nd, 2004, 11:41 PM
Wasn't Venus 15 in 1995 and 16 in 1996?

Perhaps I misunderstood your post.

Anyway, it's fruitless to compare careers in their early stages, I think.

The good ones usually have early break throughs, but then can struggle for sometime there after. Venus went a long time without winning a title. Sharapova won one in fewer matches than Venus. I don't think that means Sharapova will be better or even as good as Venus. We'll just have to see how it turns out.

Volcana
Feb 22nd, 2004, 11:58 PM
Wasn't Venus 15 in 1995 and 16 in 1996?Yes, which I THINK is what I wrote.


Anyway, it's fruitless to compare careers in their early stages, I think.I wasn't going for a direct comparison so much. But Venus and Serena are the only two players witha lot of achievements who played as little as an AER affected player. Comnparing her career to Capriati would have yielded little. OTOH, Venus and Serena played so little at that age, I guess that comparison isn't worth much either.

C'est la vie.

MH-forever
Feb 23rd, 2004, 12:54 AM
how about Kim Clijsters and Anna Kournikova, they are ranked high young too

Volcana
Feb 23rd, 2004, 03:36 AM
how about Kim Clijsters and Anna Kournikova, they are ranked high young tooYeah but they weren't AER restricted were they? Seems a bit unfair to compare rankings for players who could play unlimited tournaments to a player who could only play 14 or 16. The Williams sisters play way LESS than the AER restrictions. Also, in my head, I was looking at slam winners. I know I didn't write that, but I remember considering Hingis, Davenport and Capriati before deciding to just do V & S. But there's no reason you couldn't compare her to Clijsters. Sharapova seems to have made it plain she'd rather not be compared to Kournikova. At the very least, it's ill-omened.

- L i n a -
Feb 23rd, 2004, 03:59 AM
Sigh...

Why don't we wait until Maria, 1) defeats a Top 10 player and 2) stops boosting her ranking by beating nobodies in Tier 3's.

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:04 AM
Sigh...

Why don't we wait until Maria, 1) defeats a Top 10 player and 2) stops boosting her ranking by beating nobodies in Tier 3's.

Heh. Dokic was 11th seed at Wimbledon. Close enough.

- L i n a -
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:05 AM
And Jelena was playing superb tennis then too...

Havok
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:07 AM
:haha: and Maria only beat her 6-4, 6-4. wow she's good, lets give her a Tier II title while we're at it:lol:

MH-forever
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:11 AM
Yeah but they weren't AER restricted were they? Seems a bit unfair to compare rankings for players who could play unlimited tournaments to a player who could only play 14 or 16. The Williams sisters play way LESS than the AER restrictions. Also, in my head, I was looking at slam winners. I know I didn't write that, but I remember considering Hingis, Davenport and Capriati before deciding to just do V & S. But there's no reason you couldn't compare her to Clijsters. Sharapova seems to have made it plain she'd rather not be compared to Kournikova. At the very least, it's ill-omened.
yeah, i guess you are right, anyways, i think Kim would be a good comparison coz i do believe she was under AER along with Jelena/Justine

- L i n a -
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:13 AM
Maria can go on and on about how she's not Anna... she knows full well that all the money being made off her is because of the comparisons.

Besides, all that comes out of Maria's mouth is diarrhea anyway.

"I'm going to be #1. I can beat Serena."

Last I checked, Serena doesn't play Tier 3's every week.

ys
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:19 AM
Yeah but they weren't AER restricted were they?
Oh yes they were. Anna was complaining for years that Hingis avoided AER and Anna had to play less than she wanted to.

Knizzle
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:25 AM
Maria can go on and on about how she's not Anna... she knows full well that all the money being made off her is because of the comparisons.

Besides, all that comes out of Maria's mouth is diarrhea anyway.

"I'm going to be #1. I can beat Serena."

Last I checked, Serena doesn't play Tier 3's every week.

She said she can beat Serena??

- L i n a -
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:27 AM
Yes, in some interview she said she could beat Serena.

Look in Russian Roulette if you're desperate to read about this. :p

LindsayRocks89
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:28 AM
i dont think she can beat Serena yet :)

Knizzle
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:29 AM
Yes, in some interview she said she could beat Serena.

Look in Russian Roulette if you're desperate to read about this. :p

Not desperate, but I am always up for a good laugh.

Infiniti2001
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:32 AM
Maria can go on and on about how she's not Anna... she knows full well that all the money being made off her is because of the comparisons.

Besides, all that comes out of Maria's mouth is diarrhea anyway.

"I'm going to be #1. I can beat Serena."

Last I checked, Serena doesn't play Tier 3's every week.

Well there's nothing wrong in thinking that you are the best :p

VeraNuVirgosFan
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:39 AM
Maria can go on and on about how she's not Anna... she knows full well that all the money being made off her is because of the comparisons.
This might be true at the initial stage when Masha first came to the tennis circuit. But it isn't anymore. Nowadays Masha isn't the only one on the Tour who feels offended by the comparisons, a lot of players who have lower rakings than Masha but have titles (or even without a title) would feel the same way.
Serena doesn't play Tier 3's every week.
Masha doesn't play Tier 3 every week either - there just isn't any Tier 3 tournament going on every week.

Diya
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:44 AM
Not desperate, but I am always up for a good laugh.


I am sure she can beat Venus dunno about Serena though ;)

VeraNuVirgosFan
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:52 AM
I am sure she can beat Venus dunno about Serena though
No, Venus beat Masha in Hong Kong in January.

Masha was up 5-1 in the first set, but lost it. Venus won the 2nd set easily.

Infiniti2001
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:57 AM
I am sure she can beat Venus dunno about Serena though ;)

:rolleyes:

ys
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:00 AM
Last I checked, Serena doesn't play Tier 3's every week.
Last I checked, Serena doesn't play at all.

SerialKiller#69
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:11 AM
Anna was playing under an age restriction too. I've read interviews about it from her.

First off, if Masha feels offended by those comparisons (which MaSharapovaFan seems so sure of..) then she must be full of herself. Coz Ashley, Dinara and Tatiana don't feel offended and infact appreciated it.

bandabou
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:41 AM
Let´s just wait and see her beating someone bigger than Dokic in a real tournament or Kapros in a final...

VeraNuVirgosFan
Feb 23rd, 2004, 09:20 AM
Ashley, Dinara and Tatiana don't feel offended and in fact appreciated it.
It's great that “Ashley, Dinara and Tatiana [Golovin] appreciated” the Anna comparisons. But I don’t think Elena Dementieva appreciated it.

When was asked: “What is the most annoying question that a reporter has asked you?”

Dementieva replied: “Oh I wouldn't say annoying, just the same questions happen a lot but it depends on the year… used to be Kournikova questions and comparing me to Kournikova.”

If Masha feels offended by those comparisons (which MaSharapovaFan seems so sure of) then she must be full of herself.
I'm sure of it after reading the following article:

“Russian's game a thing of beauty

By Greg Boeck, USA TODAY

Sharapova has her agenda after ending — once and for all, she hopes — talk of being the next Anna Kournikova with two victories at the end of last year's breakout season.

The win in Tokyo that put the exclamation point on a season featuring her Grand Slam debut in Australia and a round-of-16 appearance and tabloid splash at Wimbledon was special, too.

She was so relieved to separate her image from Kournikova's that she kept fans waiting at the trophy presentation while she called her mother and Lansdorf.

Then before the postmatch media conference she told reporters, “Listen, you guys, no Anna questions, right?”

“I think I pretty much shut everyone up after I won at Tokyo,” Sharapova says of the media-driven comparisons to her winless but equally glamorous countrywoman. “I don't think that's going to be an issue anymore. I hope not. Like I say for the 1,000th time, I'm Maria Sharapova. I'm not Anna Kournikova. I'm not anyone else, even though I respect everyone else on the tour. I'm just doing my own thing.”

Kart
Feb 23rd, 2004, 09:27 AM
Heh. Dokic was 11th seed at Wimbledon. Close enough.
Whilst still being miles away ;).

I thought all players aside from Venus and Martina have had to play with the AER.

The only reason those two were exempt was that they WTA was relying on them to become big stars.

Good call :yeah:.

sartrista7
Feb 23rd, 2004, 09:55 AM
Whilst still being miles away ;).

I thought all players aside from Venus and Martina have had to play with the AER.

The only reason those two were exempt was that they WTA was relying on them to become big stars.

Good call :yeah:.

Venus and Martina started playing before the AER came into force - in fact, I think both made earlier-than-planned debuts specifically to avoid it (hence Venus's token 1994-96 appearances). Anna certainly played under it, and I assume Serena was as well.

VeraNuVirgosFan
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:36 AM
all that comes out of Maria's mouth is diarrhea anyway.
I still amaze and hardly can believe that someone can write such an expression as 'diarrhea comes out of mouth' in General Message Board.

If you don't have respect for a player, at least you should have a bit of respect for yourself by using presentable language in General (not Private) Messages.

And I was told that you're a moderator.

SerialKiller#69
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:32 PM
It's great that “Ashley, Dinara and Tatiana [Golovin] appreciated” the Anna comparisons.But I don't think Elena Dementieva appreciated it.
That's why I admire the level of maturity among these young players because they know how to deal with those questions, which I admit can be annoying. Tatiana once replied that Anna's great and that like Anna, to be in the Top 10 is also one of her goals. Dinara said that Anna led the way for her fellow young Russians. Ashley recognizes Anna as a good player who has a lot of pressures on her and wouldn't want to be in such situation. Sharapova on the other hand makes it seem as though it's such a curse to be compared to Anna. So what if she's won two tournies (i'll leave out the details..), she's still a minute version of what Anna has achieved.

VeraNuVirgosFan
Feb 24th, 2004, 10:24 AM
Fave: Anna Kournikova
Not: Maria Sharapova
I've just realised today that you're the one who have Masha as Not Fave. And Anna is your Fave. It's interesting.
Sharapova on the other hand makes it seem as though it's such a curse to be compared to Anna.
Other play can feel otherwise. But this is Masha, and she simply doesn’t like those comparisons.
So what if she's won two tournies, she's still a minute version of what Anna has achieved.
That's your opinion. But certainly Masha is entitled to have a completely different viewpoint.

ALPHA
Feb 24th, 2004, 11:12 AM
S Williams - V Williams - Sharapova
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23 xxxx xxx - 2003 _11
22 2003 __3 - 2002 __2
21 2002 __1 - 2001 __3
20 2001 __6 - 2000 __3
19 2000 __6 - 1999 __3
18 1999 __4 - 1998 __5
17 1998 _20 - 1997 _22
16 1997 _99 - 1996 204 - 2003 _32
15 1996 N/R - 1995 204 - 2002 186

Since many posters compared them here, let's add some facts:



S Williams - V Williams - Sharapova - Kournikova
---------------------------------------------------------

23 xxxx xxx - 2003 _11
22 2003 __3 - 2002 __2
21 2002 __1 - 2001 __3
20 2001 __6 - 2000 __3
19 2000 __6 - 1999 __3
18 1999 __4 - 1998 __5
17 1998 _20 - 1997 _22 - 2004 ??? - 1998 No.13
16 1997 _99 - 1996 204 - 2003 _32 - 1997 No.32
15 1996 N/R - 1995 204 - 2002 186 - 1996 No.57


Interesting to see Anna and Sharapova both ranked year-end No.32 as 16-year-olds.

Note: Both play / played under Age Restriction Rules.

In 1998 Anna reached Top-10 first time after Eastbourne Semifinal in June, let's see if Sharapova can keep the pace. Without a Top-10 scalp yet, doubtful IMO.

Volcana
Feb 24th, 2004, 12:33 PM
Since many posters compared them here, let's add some facts:

S Williams - V Williams - Sharapova - Kournikova
---------------------------------------------------------

23 xxxx xxx - 2003 _11
22 2003 __3 - 2002 __2
21 2002 __1 - 2001 __3
20 2001 __6 - 2000 __3
19 2000 __6 - 1999 __3
18 1999 __4 - 1998 __5
17 1998 _20 - 1997 _22 - 2004 ??? - 1998 No.13
16 1997 _99 - 1996 204 - 2003 _32 - 1997 No.32
15 1996 N/R - 1995 204 - 2002 186 - 1996 No.57

Interesting to see Anna and Sharapova both ranked year-end No.32 as 16-year-olds.

Note: Both play / played under Age Restriction Rules.

In 1998 Anna reached Top-10 first time after Eastbourne Semifinal in June, let's see if Sharapova can keep the pace. Without a Top-10 scalp yet, doubtful IMO.
If we're doing this just to 'add facts', we gotta add ALL the facts

S Williams V Williams - Sharapova - Kournikova
------------------------------------------------
23 2004 __? - 2003 _11 - 2010 __? - 2004 __?
22 2003 __3 - 2002 __2 - 2009 __? - 2003 305
21 2002 __1 - 2001 __3 - 2008 __? - 2002 _35
20 2001 __6 - 2000 __3 - 2007 __? - 2001 _74
19 2000 __6 - 1999 __3 - 2006 __? - 2000 __8
18 1999 __4 - 1998 __5 - 2005 __? - 1999 _12
17 1998 _20 - 1997 _22 - 2004 __? - 1998 _13
16 1997 _99 - 1996 204 - 2003 _32 - 1997 _32
15 1996 N/R - 1995 204 - 2002 186 - 1996 _57
14 1995 N/R - 1994 N/R - 1999 N/R - 1995 281

Indeed. let's see if Sharapova can keep pace.

She's ranked #25 now (I think)

#13 by the end of 2004 isn't impossble.

#12 by the end of 2005 is VERY possible.

#8 by the end of 2006? Now that's a question of how good she is, but Lindsay and Jenn may well not be around. Give Venus, Serena, Kim and Justine higher rankings, just for laughs. Give Amelie too. That's still leaves the #6 ranking to be fought for against very beatable players.

#74 by the end of 2007? That'll be tough, but with a lobotomy, it's still possible.

#35 by the end of 2008? It'll take a lot of 1st round losses, but anything's possible.

#305 by the end of 2009? No sweat. IF she retires.

SerialKiller#69
Feb 24th, 2004, 01:15 PM
If we're doing this just to 'add facts', we gotta add ALL the facts

S Williams V Williams - Sharapova - Kournikova
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23 2004 __? - 2003 _11 - 2010 __? - 2004 __?
22 2003 __3 - 2002 __2 - 2009 __? - 2003 305
21 2002 __1 - 2001 __3 - 2008 __? - 2002 _35
20 2001 __6 - 2000 __3 - 2007 __? - 2001 _74
19 2000 __6 - 1999 __3 - 2006 __? - 2000 __8
18 1999 __4 - 1998 __5 - 2005 __? - 1999 _12
17 1998 _20 - 1997 _22 - 2004 __? - 1998 _13
16 1997 _99 - 1996 204 - 2003 _32 - 1997 _32
15 1996 N/R - 1995 204 - 2002 186 - 1996 _57
14 1995 N/R - 1994 N/R - 1999 N/R - 1995 281

Thanks Volcano! Those stats are interesting.

Wow, I didn't know Anna was ranked higher than Serena when they were 17. That's interesting. I also noticed Vee, Anna and Serena were just teenage girls during such high rankings. Too bad Anna failed to cope up. But damn those were the days when these young girls including Martina, were just out of control and beating everyone.:worship:

SerialKiller#69
Feb 24th, 2004, 01:20 PM
I've just realised today that you're the one who have Masha as Not Fave. And Anna is your Fave. It's interesting.
Expectedly so. I bet you'd be more surprised if i listed Masha as my fave. And there are more reasons why I don't like her aside from the reasons I've mentioned above.

Other play can feel otherwise. But this is Masha, and she simply doesn’t like those comparisons.

That's your opinion. But certainly Masha is entitled to have a completely different viewpoint.
Ofcourse I'm not bashing Maria for having her own opinion. Maria's behaviour just makes me appreciate the likes of Tatiana, Ashley and Dinara. :hearts:

katrientje
Feb 24th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Lots of people talk about how maria is overhyped and all. But in my opinion she is underappreciated here on this board.
You just cannot deny her jump in the rankings. It's amazing for a 16-year old. It doesn't matter that she isn't beating top 10 players yet, I am sure she will soon...

The fact are there, her ranking is impressive for a 16 year old girl and she should get credit for that

the cat
Feb 24th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Interesting thread, Volcana. Maria is doing pretty well all things considered. But I think she could be doing more than she is. And she will in time.

And the way Maria's ranking has paralleled Anna's ranking at similar ages is absolutely amazing! :D
As for the comparisons to Anna Kournikova, Masha has been bombarded with questions about Anna for many years while the other players are only occasionally compared to Anna. And the comparisions to Anna have gotten on Masha nerves. :mad: But she needs to relax and realize she has benfefited from the Kournikova comparisions financially and as a tennis player.

ALPHA
Feb 24th, 2004, 03:52 PM
If we're doing this just to 'add facts', we gotta add ALL the facts

S Williams V Williams - Sharapova - Kournikova
------------------------------------------------
23 2004 __? - 2003 _11 - 2010 __? - 2004 __?
22 2003 __3 - 2002 __2 - 2009 __? - 2003 305
21 2002 __1 - 2001 __3 - 2008 __? - 2002 _35
20 2001 __6 - 2000 __3 - 2007 __? - 2001 _74
19 2000 __6 - 1999 __3 - 2006 __? - 2000 __8
18 1999 __4 - 1998 __5 - 2005 __? - 1999 _12
17 1998 _20 - 1997 _22 - 2004 __? - 1998 _13
16 1997 _99 - 1996 204 - 2003 _32 - 1997 _32
15 1996 N/R - 1995 204 - 2002 186 - 1996 _57
14 1995 N/R - 1994 N/R - 1999 N/R - 1995 281

Indeed. let's see if Sharapova can keep pace.

She's ranked #25 now (I think)
Correction: Sharapova is ranked No.22 this week, including Memphis Semifinal, at 1172.25 pts with 395 quality points.


#13 by the end of 2004 isn't impossble.

#12 by the end of 2005 is VERY possible.

#8 by the end of 2006? Now that's a question of how good she is, but Lindsay and Jenn may well not be around. Give Venus, Serena, Kim and Justine higher rankings, just for laughs. Give Amelie too. That's still leaves the #6 ranking to be fought for against very beatable players.

#74 by the end of 2007? That'll be tough, but with a lobotomy, it's still possible.
Note: If Sharapova gets injured as seriously as Anna and if she will be out for 6 months DURING season (missing 3 of 4 GS events) we can talk about fair comparisson, ok.


#35 by the end of 2008? It'll take a lot of 1st round losses, but anything's possible.

#305 by the end of 2009? No sweat. IF she retires.
Note: Season 2002 (with year-end ranking of No.35) is/ was the real set-back in Anna's comeback campaign. However you should mention that again she finished the year sidelined by injury for the major part of indoors season.

Season 2003 finished ranked No.305. Sidelined by injury for almost all the season excluding 4 WTA and 2 ITF events. If Sharapova suffers such serious injuries with comparable injury breaks, you can go on to compare the pure numbers.


Don't pretend to add "ALL the facts", while you leave out the facts you simply don't like to include.

.

SJW
Feb 24th, 2004, 03:54 PM
Lots of people talk about how maria is overhyped and all. But in my opinion she is underappreciated here on this board.
You just cannot deny her jump in the rankings. It's amazing for a 16-year old. It doesn't matter that she isn't beating top 10 players yet, I am sure she will soon...

The fact are there, her ranking is impressive for a 16 year old girl and she should get credit for that
true.....i am VERY impressed by her rise at such a young age...

considering that the dominant players are pretty young now, IMO the "potential reached" age of other players is getting higher.

you're just not gonna get many 16/17 yr olds ending the year #1 (ala Martina)

they're just not gonna be as good as the likes of Martina Venus Serena Jen etc at that age...

the cat
Feb 24th, 2004, 03:59 PM
Well said SJW and Kat. :)

Volcana
Feb 24th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Don't pretend to add "ALL the facts", while you leave out the facts you simply don't like to include.
I didn't cut either of the Williams sisters any slack for missing half of last year with injuries. OR parts of previous years. Why should I cut Anna any slack for that? I judged all players by the same standards. And remember, I'm not the one who brought Kournikova into this discussion.

As I said before, I chose Venus and Serena for my comparison because they were GS winners who played as little as the AER restricted others to. SOmeone else decided that comparing a player who routinely plays 20+ topurnaments a year was somehow fair.

In 2002, Kournikova played 25 tournaments, and finished ranked #35. TWENTY-FIVE tournaments. And couldn't finish with a top thirty ranking.

Serena played 13 tournaments, Venus 15. Sharapova is currently limited to 16. They seem a more appropriate comparison, IF, as was my goal, you're trying to see what Sharapova's potential might be.

Anna outclassed here. The more you harp on Anna's career in this matter, the worse you'll make her look.

ALPHA
Feb 24th, 2004, 06:57 PM
I didn't cut either of the Williams sisters any slack for missing half of last year with injuries. OR parts of previous years. Why should I cut Anna any slack for that? I judged all players by the same standards. And remember, I'm not the one who brought Kournikova into this discussion.

As I said before, I chose Venus and Serena for my comparison because they were GS winners who played as little as the AER restricted others to. SOmeone else decided that comparing a player who routinely plays 20+ topurnaments a year was somehow fair.

In 2002, Kournikova played 25 tournaments, and finished ranked #35. TWENTY-FIVE tournaments. And couldn't finish with a top thirty ranking.

Serena played 13 tournaments, Venus 15. Sharapova is currently limited to 16. They seem a more appropriate comparison, IF, as was my goal, you're trying to see what Sharapova's potential might be.

Anna outclassed here. The more you harp on Anna's career in this matter, the worse you'll make her look.

Anna played under Age Restriction Rule too, so to compare her to the above mentioned players IS fair. At the age of 14, 15, 16, and 17 years Anna did NOT play 20 tournaments or more per season - same as Sharapova, Venus and Serena Williams.

Anna outclassed here ? Do you have a problem reading stats ? I think her career looks pretty good as far as rankings are concerned compared to Sharapova, Venus and Serena Williams in early parts of their career.
Note: I made no statement "Kournikova No.1", "Better than Williams Sisters - AnnaK" or "Most successful tennis player - Kournikova".
I did not start comparissons to Kournikova (although I thought that it looks interesting), others brought them up including false statements such as Kournikova did not play under age restriction rules.

So I decided to add some facts to correct the misleading / false statements here.


Again, let's wait and see if Sharapova gets to Top-10 this year and let's wait and see if she can surpass season-ending No.13.

I wasn't the one, who started this topic, but asked about it - I have my doubts.

bandabou
Feb 24th, 2004, 07:09 PM
Anna played under Age Restriction Rule too, so to compare her to the above mentioned players IS fair. At the age of 14, 15, 16, and 17 years Anna did NOT play 20 tournaments or more per season - same as Sharapova, Venus and Serena Williams.

Anna outclassed here ? Do you have a problem reading stats ? I think her career looks pretty good as far as rankings are concerned compared to Sharapova, Venus and Serena Williams in early parts of their career.
Note: I made no statement "Kournikova No.1", "Better than Williams Sisters - AnnaK" or "Most successful tennis player - Kournikova".
I did not start comparissons to Kournikova (although I thought that it looks interesting), others brought them up including false statements such as Kournikova did not play under age restriction rules.

So I decided to add some facts to correct the misleading / false statements here.


Again, let's wait and see if Sharapova gets to Top-10 this year and let's wait and see if she can surpass season-ending No.13.

I wasn't the one, who started this topic, but asked about it - I have my doubts.

Bottom-line!

the cat
Feb 24th, 2004, 08:19 PM
Alpha, you correctly state that Anna's ranking early in her career is on par with the Williams sisters and Maria Sharapova's rankings at similar ages. But you must admit that women's tennis is much deeper in 2004 than it was in 1997 when Anna turned 16 and in 1998 when Anna made the top 10 for the first time. And Maria making the top 10 will be harder than it was for Anna because of the superior depth in todays game.

Volcana
Feb 24th, 2004, 11:16 PM
Anna outclassed here?Totally

Do you have a problem reading stats ?None. I read the stats from 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003 just fine. I added them so we have all the 'facts'. After all, we wouldn't want to be selective and only post the 'facts' we like, would we?

VeraNuVirgosFan
Feb 25th, 2004, 02:14 AM
And there are more reasons why I don't like her aside from the reasons I've mentioned above.
It’s good that you have more reasons.

I think Masha also has many reasons, and below is one of Masha’s reasons:

“I don't want her [Maria] to be like Anna in the next couple of years,” top-ranked Russian Anastasia Myskina said. “I want her to be just the way she is.”

Masharapova
Feb 25th, 2004, 05:01 AM
:) masha :)