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Epigone
Feb 2nd, 2006, 09:26 PM
Unless Vera plays better, I'm not sure she can get any of them as partners.
That whole group - Sveta, Nadia, Maria K., and Dinara -
are all ranked way above Vera.Masha is ranked 7 places above Bepa, so I'd hardly call that "way above". What's more, she beat the stuffing out of her when they met in Auckland. Bepa has had one great tournament and two poor tournaments this year. If she can remain focused like she was in Auckland, she'll get her season back on track.

Secondly, I don't buy the argument that they won't partner her because she isn't playing well. She is the #2 ranked Russian doubles player, and I don't see a real link between her form in singles and doubles. If anything, she performs slightly better in doubles when she has flamed out of the tournament in singles :shrug:

andrewbroad
Feb 2nd, 2006, 09:34 PM
But all these #'s don't mean anything when Vera is getting no results.

I don't call reaching the Auckland singles-final, winning the doubles-title there, or her two quarter-finals at the Australian Open 2006, "getting no results".

A lot of top-20 players would be honoured to partner Bepa in doubles.

Of the partners suggested above, Maria Kirilenko would be the most attractive choice, although they haven't played well together in the past, and Little Maria seems to be quite happy in Team Dulkirilenko at the moment. :)

My ultimate all-Russian doubles-match would be the Super Maria Sisters against Bepa and Anna Chakvetadze, although the court might tend to get rather damp at one end! ;)

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Epigone
Feb 3rd, 2006, 02:41 AM
Seeds for Pattaya (http://wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=7251809&postcount=1)

#1 Vera Zvonareva, #2 Shinobu Asagoe, #3 Catalina Castano, #4 Shahar Peer
#5 Nuria Llagostera Vives, #6 Jie Zheng, #7 Aiko Nakamura, #8 Shuai Peng

Bepa needs to take this opportunity to get back on the winning track

Foot's Fingers
Feb 3rd, 2006, 05:30 AM
Olimpic in 2008

SO to speak abt possiable partnership in 2006 :rolleyes:

I think notearly then middle of 2007

And look at Sveta/Lena - they have played together with very good results special for Olimpics
They were 1 st seeded team - and we all knew what's happend in Greece

For this moment i think Lena/Vera is a good team

rrfnpump
Feb 3rd, 2006, 06:14 AM
Seeds for Pattaya (http://wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=7251809&postcount=1)

#1 Vera Zvonareva, #2 Shinobu Asagoe, #3 Catalina Castano, #4 Shahar Peer
#5 Nuria Llagostera Vives, #6 Jie Zheng, #7 Aiko Nakamura, #8 Shuai Peng

Bepa needs to take this opportunity to get back on the winning track

I already see Vera vs Li Na in first round :o

seriously, Vera needs some luck in the draws
if she had had Ruano Pascuals draw at the Ao she would have made it into 4th round for sure. she was just unlucky.

Epigone
Feb 3rd, 2006, 07:41 AM
I already see Vera vs Li Na in first round :oNo jinxing! :p

If Bepa can produce some focused tennis, she should beat any opponent she faces :)

goldenlox
Feb 3rd, 2006, 04:35 PM
A good move, playing Pattaya. Get some confidence.

rrfnpump
Feb 4th, 2006, 07:53 AM
Pattaya Main Draw
Bepa's quarter

1-ZVONAREVA Vera RUS vs WC-SUAREZ Paola ARG
WC-VIRATPRASERT Suchanan THA vs BAMMER Sybille AUT
WC-NAGYOVA Henrieta SVK vs BYCHKOVA Ekaterina RUS
6-ZHENG Jie CHN vs CZINK Melinda HUN

finally a decent draw :)

andrewbroad
Feb 4th, 2006, 01:07 PM
Pattaya Main Draw
Bepa's quarter

1-ZVONAREVA Vera RUS vs WC-SUAREZ Paola ARG
WC-VIRATPRASERT Suchanan THA vs BAMMER Sybille AUT
WC-NAGYOVA Henrieta SVK vs BYCHKOVA Ekaterina RUS
6-ZHENG Jie CHN vs CZINK Melinda HUN

finally a decent draw :)

Bepa beat Suárez 6-2 6-3 in her first match of the year, at Auckland, but I'm a bit worried about Bammer in the second round. Philadelphia 2004 was perhaps the best tournament of Bepa's career so far - but only after saving match-point against Bammer in the first round! :scared:

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Epigone
Feb 4th, 2006, 08:26 PM
I think Bepa will bounce back this week :bounce:

She shouldn't take her draw for granted, but she has the game to dismantle the field

Also, given the way that Martina has been playing, maybe it will help to lessen the effects of her AO loss (although I still think that Bepa really underperformed :sad: )

tobi
Feb 5th, 2006, 10:26 PM
good luck to Vera in Pattaya

Win this :D

Shoulderpova
Feb 6th, 2006, 03:15 AM
Bepa :scared: :unsure:

rrfnpump
Feb 6th, 2006, 06:25 AM
no doubles for Vera :(

Solitaire
Feb 6th, 2006, 06:31 AM
Go Go Vera in PC!!! :bounce:

Epigone
Feb 6th, 2006, 06:44 AM
Here (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=218799) is an interesting thread/poll :o

I'm too :scared: of jinxing Bepa to vote :o

Foot's Fingers
Feb 6th, 2006, 06:44 AM
wELL, WHEN I SEE THAT WC IS GRANTED TO PAOLA, I HAVE A FEELING THAT SHE WILL PLAY VERA AGAIN, NOT BAD DRAW SO FAR, AND IF VERA DECIEDE TO MISS mEMPHIS WHE NEED THIS TOURNAMNETS TO WIN

IT'S MY HOPES

GOOD LUCK VERA

Shoulderpova
Feb 6th, 2006, 09:39 AM
Vera to win Pattaya :)
If she doesn't, i'll shoot myself :armed:

Epigone
Feb 6th, 2006, 01:13 PM
I like this (http://www.pentanglepromotions.com/pattaya06/pic/key600px.gif) :D

It's nice to see that they're promoting Bepa :yeah:

azmad_88
Feb 6th, 2006, 01:14 PM
all the best vera in pattaya!

rrfnpump
Feb 6th, 2006, 01:19 PM
I like this (http://www.pentanglepromotions.com/pattaya06/pic/key600px.gif) :D

It's nice to see that they're promoting Bepa :yeah:

I first said this is Anna-Lena Grönefeld when I saw that picture :o

Harju.
Feb 6th, 2006, 01:23 PM
I like this (http://www.pentanglepromotions.com/pattaya06/pic/key600px.gif) :D

It's nice to see that they're promoting Bepa :yeah:
Why wouldn't they? :angel:.

Udachi Vera. Good luck against Paola :banana:.

goldenlox
Feb 6th, 2006, 04:31 PM
This is a much better spot that Paris. Get some wins before IW & Miami.

daniela86
Feb 6th, 2006, 05:12 PM
I first said this is Anna-Lena Grönefeld when I saw that picture :o
Same here :o :o :o

Vera will play tomorrow:bounce: Davai :rocker: I am confident and I agree she has a nice draw.Udachi Vera :D :cool:
Btw, it's indeed a pity she doesn't play doubles :sad: I would have loved to see Vera/Katya Bychkova as a team.

rrfnpump
Feb 6th, 2006, 05:20 PM
it is indeed ALG
check out her pics from Pattaya last year and you will see why

Martin :smash:
and goldenlox in the picture thread :o

:lol:

Foot's Fingers
Feb 6th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Good :ucl Vera tommorrow

Epigone
Feb 6th, 2006, 08:26 PM
This is a much better spot that Paris. Get some wins before IW & Miami.She's not playing IW

Epigone
Feb 6th, 2006, 08:27 PM
it is indeed ALG
check out her pics from Pattaya last year and you will see why

Martin :smash:I did think she looked a bit...different..., but near enough was good enough for me :shrug:. I mean, I'd never seen Bepa wearing a wristband like that before, but then again, I wasn't around when she played Pattaya last year.

I need sleep :bigcry:

Epigone
Feb 6th, 2006, 08:32 PM
Tuesday, February 7, 2006
Court 1 (from 14.30hrs)
1. Viratprasert vs. Bammer
2. Zvonareva vs. Suarez (NB 16.00hrs)
3. Nagyova vs. Bychkova
4. Hsieh/Tanasugarn vs. Castano/Czink
5. Yan/Zheng vs. Amanmuradova/Rodionova

nick_chicane
Feb 6th, 2006, 11:18 PM
Good luck tomorrow Vera, its time to bounce back in style!! :)

rrfnpump
Feb 7th, 2006, 06:24 AM
http://www.jirobkk.com/album/Pattaya_Women_Open_2006/Welcome_Party_Part_3/Party_133.jpg

go Vera :drive: :lol:

Epigone
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:24 AM
Bepa won 6-1 6-3 :bounce:

She trailed 1-3* in the 2nd, but finished strong :yeah:

EDIT: :confused: Now the scores have been reversed :scared:

KV
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:27 AM
Good win Bepa, even though P. Suarez is past peak, I think.

rrfnpump
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:28 AM
SHE LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16 36 to Suarez
(source : official website of tourney)

Epigone
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:30 AM
SHE LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16 36 to Suarez
(source : official website of tourney)Jiro's site had Bepa taking the 1st set, as did the scoreboard on wtatour.com :scratch:

It's not the first time an official site has put up the wrong score :shrug:

EDIT: Now the completed match on the wtatour.com scoreboard has Suarez winning :fiery:

rrfnpump
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:30 AM
but Jiros site also has Paola as the winner

its so hard to believe Vera lost it cannot be true

KV
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:33 AM
OH NO, if that's true what a stupid mistake been made. :(

Foot's Fingers
Feb 7th, 2006, 09:47 AM
thw scores :fiery:

still in hopes of Vera's win :tape:

azmad_88
Feb 7th, 2006, 10:15 AM
this is sad...
its ok vera...bounce back stronger after this...

Solitaire
Feb 7th, 2006, 10:27 AM
oh Vera don't repeat next year plzzzzz. Well u can repeat the good parts but not the bad ones.

daniela86
Feb 7th, 2006, 11:54 AM
I can't believe she lost after beating Paola so easily in Auckland :speakles: :speakles: :sad: :bigcry: :sad: :help: It's such a pathetic performance :help: :help: and since she won't play Memphis,I guess she will be out of the top 50 :( I am beginning to lose all my hopes on Vera :sad: :sad: but I will always support her :hug: :hug:

TheBoiledEgg
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:04 PM
omg shocking Vera :sobbing: :sad: :bigcry:

Foot's Fingers
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:10 PM
seems this lost is true

shoking lost Too hard to overcome......Again lossing been 1st seeded

vera - don't become a joeneywoman///flying to Asia just for one match :help:

rrfnpump
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:12 PM
That is the worst loss by far in the last two years! The Peschke-Berlin-disaster was nothing against this loss :mad: :(

losing against No.319 in the first round of a Tier IV!

and she beat her with almost the same scoreline a month ago. it really seems like Auckland was a fluke. One good tournament in a year :sobbing:

I am deeply disappointed in Vera! I still cannot believe she lost that way - just 4 games. As Lela said I also begin to lose my faith in Vera. I will always support her as my No1 fave, but this loss is hard for me to handle (I still hope the result is wrong :help: ):sad:

Vera, get your act together :shout:

Epigone
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:21 PM
I kept checking all the websites every few minutes in case there was a mistake with the score :o

Maybe she can be like her identical twin ALG :p and play a $75K, although she could still end up getting :shout: :banghead: and throw away the match :sad:

I still feel that these problems are mental, but is she gonna do something to get her head in shape? :shrug:

Bepa, pull yourself together! :hug:

Epigone
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:24 PM
It was not her (Vera) day. She can't find the rhythm and made many mistake. She was crying during the game.

Poor Vera. Well done Suarez:crying2: during the game :shrug:

Was Auckland the only tournament this year where she didn't cry? :scratch:

rrfnpump
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:34 PM
http://www.jirobkk.com/album/Pattaya_Women_Open_2006/Welcome_Party_Part_2/Party_064.jpg

at least she looked stunning

nick_chicane
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Unfortunately, Vera doesnt think she has a problem mentally and until she does, she'll never change!! You cant make someone change, if they dont want to!!

It will be the same old story until she can see whats wrong!! :sad:

But you guys are right, this is getting very hard to deal with now!! :sad:

But to put it in its place, think how Vera must be feeling!! We sit here and moan about how awful shes playing and stuff, but just think how she must feel!! Its a very lonely sport when its not going well!!

Foot's Fingers
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:40 PM
I kept checking all the websites every few minutes in case there was a mistake with the score :o



me too

can't believe
just can't believe



may be it was another Vera on court? May be Paola back to top 20 form? anyway this time no excuses for Vera :fiery:

rrfnpump
Feb 7th, 2006, 12:41 PM
jiro said in one thread that Vera couldnt find her rythm and she was crying throughout the whole match...

really no surprise here :rolleyes:
she needs to stop crying, seriously

Harju.
Feb 7th, 2006, 01:31 PM
Bepa :help: :tape: :banghead: :smash:.

Terrible loss. Paolita hasn't played for most of the 2005 and only a few matches this year.

Shoulderpova
Feb 7th, 2006, 01:38 PM
this sucks and Vera sux as well :)

goldenlox
Feb 7th, 2006, 02:31 PM
PATTAYA, Thailand (AP) -- Former world number one doubles player Paola Suarez of Argentina dismissed top-seeded Russian Vera Zvonareva 6-1 6-3 in just 68 minutes in the first round of the Pattaya Women's Open at the Dusit Resort Hotel in Thailand.

The Argentine veteran, who topped the doubles ranking in 2002 and reached her highest singles ranking of nine in 2004, avenged a loss to the world No 33 Russian in the first round of the ASB Women's Classic in Auckland last month.

Suarez, who was hampered by injuries throughout much of last year, performed consistently from the baseline.

Zvonareva was error-prone and became so rattled as to throw down her racket in frustration.

"I served well in the first set but the second set was a bit tough because I couldn't get my serves in and she broke me twice.

" But she didn't play well today.":( said Suarez, now ranked 319th in the world.

She said the match was her second since a hip operation, and she was working at getting her playing rhythm back.

Suarez admitted she was distracted by the antics of Rodionova on an adjacent court, as the Russian became almost hysterical:banghead: at times, constantly disputing calls, walking to her chair and twice refusing to play on until the referee was called to the court.

"It was a little bit difficult to play like this, with so much screaming and shouting," said Suarez.

"I tried to be focused but it was difficult, you know."

paranoia0809
Feb 7th, 2006, 04:46 PM
Vera to win Pattaya :)
If she doesn't, i'll shoot myself :armed:

Rusik, are you still alive? :eek: :(

nick_chicane
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:57 AM
Jesus, are you fans at all? Or just interested in her when shes winning!! Give her a break man!!!

Shes going through such a rough patch, im sure the last thing she needs to hear is how pathetic she is!!

Sure, im annoyed with how shes playing, shes playing awful tennis, but as i posted earlier, she needs her fans now!! Not abuse!!

Its obvious to anyone that Vera is seriously struggling but as fans, we gotta stand firm by her and we gotta be their to support her, this is a tough time, if your a real fan, then stand up and give her support, not tell her how pathetic she is!!

I truly believe that Vera is a fantastically talented tennis player and i truly believe she can regain the form that got her to top 10 in the world but if she was to read this forum, she'd think you lot hated her!! Its quite clear that Vera has some serious issues, this isnt just a loss of form, shes clearly struggling with herself, and this is the time that we gotta be their for her, now give her a break from the abuse you lot seem to be dishing her and offer her some support!!

If she reads this forum, and i doubt she does, but if she does, she may just need us right now!!

Solitaire
Feb 8th, 2006, 03:07 AM
Jesus, are you fans at all? Or just interested in her when shes winning!! Give her a break man!!!

Shes going through such a rough patch, im sure the last thing she needs to hear is how pathetic she is!!

Sure, im annoyed with how shes playing, shes playing awful tennis, but as i posted earlier, she needs her fans now!! Not abuse!!

Its obvious to anyone that Vera is seriously struggling but as fans, we gotta stand firm by her and we gotta be their to support her, this is a tough time, if your a real fan, then stand up and give her support, not tell her how pathetic she is!!

I truly believe that Vera is a fantastically talented tennis player and i truly believe she can regain the form that got her to top 10 in the world but if she was to read this forum, she'd think you lot hated her!! Its quite clear that Vera has some serious issues, this isnt just a loss of form, shes clearly struggling with herself, and this is the time that we gotta be their for her, now give her a break from the abuse you lot seem to be dishing her and offer her some support!!

If she reads this forum, and i doubt she does, but if she does, she may just need us right now!!


Well said and Agreed. :)

robert72
Feb 8th, 2006, 04:58 AM
Jesus, are you fans at all? Or just interested in her when shes winning!! Give her a break man!!!

Shes going through such a rough patch, im sure the last thing she needs to hear is how pathetic she is!!

Sure, im annoyed with how shes playing, shes playing awful tennis, but as i posted earlier, she needs her fans now!! Not abuse!!

Its obvious to anyone that Vera is seriously struggling but as fans, we gotta stand firm by her and we gotta be their to support her, this is a tough time, if your a real fan, then stand up and give her support, not tell her how pathetic she is!!

I truly believe that Vera is a fantastically talented tennis player and i truly believe she can regain the form that got her to top 10 in the world but if she was to read this forum, she'd think you lot hated her!! Its quite clear that Vera has some serious issues, this isnt just a loss of form, shes clearly struggling with herself, and this is the time that we gotta be their for her, now give her a break from the abuse you lot seem to be dishing her and offer her some support!!

If she reads this forum, and i doubt she does, but if she does, she may just need us right now!!

totally agreed.
she needs all the support she can get at the moment - more than ever - and the last thing she needs is to hear how pathetic she is. It´s for sure that She´s feeling worse about her game then everyone else and it´s essential to see that there are fans that still believe in her - cause I guess there are just very few people that would be able to get back without support.

I´m feeling terrible about such losses myself, of course, but nevertheless I still believe that "the other Vera" can and will come back and prove all wrong who already gave her up.

rrfnpump
Feb 8th, 2006, 06:23 AM
Jesus, are you fans at all? Or just interested in her when shes winning!! Give her a break man!!!

Shes going through such a rough patch, im sure the last thing she needs to hear is how pathetic she is!!

Sure, im annoyed with how shes playing, shes playing awful tennis, but as i posted earlier, she needs her fans now!! Not abuse!!

Its obvious to anyone that Vera is seriously struggling but as fans, we gotta stand firm by her and we gotta be their to support her, this is a tough time, if your a real fan, then stand up and give her support, not tell her how pathetic she is!!

I truly believe that Vera is a fantastically talented tennis player and i truly believe she can regain the form that got her to top 10 in the world but if she was to read this forum, she'd think you lot hated her!! Its quite clear that Vera has some serious issues, this isnt just a loss of form, shes clearly struggling with herself, and this is the time that we gotta be their for her, now give her a break from the abuse you lot seem to be dishing her and offer her some support!!

If she reads this forum, and i doubt she does, but if she does, she may just need us right now!!

You are maybe right, but her performance yesterday WAS far beyond pathetic. Its not an opinion, but its a fact. Losing to a player she beat comfortable a month ago and only getting 4 games is :help:

We will all continue to support Vera - she is my No1 fave and she always will. But being a fan of somebody means also criticizing and sometimes bashing him/her. Vera also doesnt need fans who always say "next time", but she needs critical fans who give her suggestions and stuff.

And she needs to change sth. Waiting till something happenes is useless. Her last three losses were 26 26, 16 26, 16 36 ; thats a total of 11 games won in three matches.

Foot's Fingers
Feb 8th, 2006, 07:00 AM
Jesus, are you fans at all? Or just interested in her when shes winning!! Give her a break man!!!

Shes going through such a rough patch, im sure the last thing she needs to hear is how pathetic she is!!

Sure, im annoyed with how shes playing, shes playing awful tennis, but as i posted earlier, she needs her fans now!! Not abuse!!

Its obvious to anyone that Vera is seriously struggling but as fans, we gotta stand firm by her and we gotta be their to support her, this is a tough time, if your a real fan, then stand up and give her support, not tell her how pathetic she is!!

I truly believe that Vera is a fantastically talented tennis player and i truly believe she can regain the form that got her to top 10 in the world but if she was to read this forum, she'd think you lot hated her!! Its quite clear that Vera has some serious issues, this isnt just a loss of form, shes clearly struggling with herself, and this is the time that we gotta be their for her, now give her a break from the abuse you lot seem to be dishing her and offer her some support!!

If she reads this forum, and i doubt she does, but if she does, she may just need us right now!!

Hey!

We always support Vera and wil support in next match as well. But after awful 2005 and good begining i NZ this year, we all really expectied much more, at least vs Paola And i think if Vera will read this thread she will understan how much Vera's lovers are here

Solitaire
Feb 8th, 2006, 08:42 AM
We will all continue to support Vera - she is my No1 fave and she always will. But being a fan of somebody means also criticizing and sometimes bashing him/her. Vera also doesnt need fans who always say "next time", but she needs critical fans who give her suggestions and stuff.


Nothing wrong with constructive criticism but bashing is uncalled for. Save that for players u hate not for one of ur favs. We all want Vera to succeed. So far her year is following last years pattern with ups and downs. So criticize, critique but don't bash it's not necessary.

Epigone
Feb 8th, 2006, 09:25 AM
Hey!

We always support Vera and wil support in next match as well. But after awful 2005 and good begining i NZ this year, we all really expectied much more, at least vs Paola And i think if Vera will read this thread she will understan how much Vera's lovers are hereмы любим Веру :worship:

Nick weren't you saying that people here were being too easy on Bepa last year? :scratch:

Anyway, people will cool down in a day or two and things will go back to normal

Epigone
Feb 8th, 2006, 10:30 AM
From the tournament website (http://www.pentanglepromotions.com/pattaya06/newstue.htm)
Top seeded Russian Vera Zvonareva joined second seed Shinobu Asagoe as a first round loser when she was humbled 6-1 6-3 by Paola Suarez. The Argentine, who is better known for the doubles skills that took her to number one in the world, has only recently returned to the tour after she missed the second half of last season because of a hip injury that required surgery.

But she was always in charge against her emotional opponent, who was almost in tears at times. Once ranked in the top 10 but now at 30, Zvonareva struggled to maintain the rallies, hit 12 doubles faults, and failed to hold serve until she was down 5-2 in the second set. Suarez took full advantage, striking the ball cleanly and hitting several fine winners down the line.

"I'm happy with the way I played," said Suarez, who lost her only other match this year to Zvonareva in Auckland. "I thought the best part of my game was my serve in the first set after I got used to the balls. They are so fast and flying a lot. But I had to be focused and just play my game.12 double faults? :sad:

nick_chicane
Feb 8th, 2006, 10:43 AM
мы любим Веру :worship:

Nick weren't you saying that people here were being too easy on Bepa last year? :scratch:

Anyway, people will cool down in a day or two and things will go back to normal

Yes i did say that, but now it seems to have swung totally the other way!! Yes, Vera deserves critisism when shes played badly but is telling her she sux and shes pathetic, useful critisism?

Vera will know herself that she played awful against Suarez, shes not stupid!! But i think right now she just needs to know that their are people that believe in her and believe she can get back to where she was!!

robert72
Feb 8th, 2006, 10:56 AM
For those who haven´t seen this already, I just found pics from yesterdays match and you can really see how she must have felt. It´s really hard to see her that way while playing

(Row 3 / Pic 5 and Row 4 / Pic 2 are the ones I speak of)

Link to the pics (http://www.jirobkk.com/album/Pattaya_Women_Open_2006/07_Feb_Part_1/default.asp)

Harju.
Feb 8th, 2006, 11:33 AM
Oh come on give her a break. She's been very nice to us by reaching the final this season. It was a bad loss, but who doesn't have a bad loss before? It's bound to happen. It's only the second month of the year. Give her more time, and she would be winning soon. And even if she doesnt *knocks wood*, she would still rock our world ;).

Epigone
Feb 8th, 2006, 11:34 AM
For those who haven´t seen this already, I just found pics from yesterdays match and you can really see how she must have felt. It´s really hard to see her that way while playing

(Row 3 / Pic 5 and Row 4 / Pic 2 are the ones I speak of)

Link to the pics (http://www.jirobkk.com/album/Pattaya_Women_Open_2006/07_Feb_Part_1/default.asp)Why I don't understand why the report said she "was almost in tears at times", when it seems pretty clear from those pics that she was crying :crying2: :shrug:

I sure hope that she didn't get upset and collapse on the court again :sad:

rrfnpump
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:44 PM
12 DF's :eek: :o
thats really much; well, it was just not her day

and nobody said Vera is pathetic - just her performance was pathetic
and its just sad to see how she doesnt use her talents :shrug:

goldenlox
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:24 PM
These kinds of discussions, about what to write when a favorite player of yours is slumping, is part of message boards.

We know Vera can play top 10 tennis, maybe top 5.

After 2004, I thought she might be next to win a major.

But I'm sure she wants to do well.
I know she works hard.

This is not an easy game to be successful at.

goldenlox
Feb 8th, 2006, 02:31 PM
As far as giving advice, what can you say besides -

Stay positive, and keep working hard

------------------

As far as coaching is concerned, Vera has to decide that, just like Nadia has to decide on hers.

Epigone
Feb 10th, 2006, 12:39 PM
Look at this (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=219437) thread

:rolleyes: at how low Bepa is ranked by most people

Foot's Fingers
Feb 10th, 2006, 01:00 PM
Look at this (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=219437) thread

:rolleyes: at how low Bepa is ranked by most people


yeeeh i notice it when looking this thread :o

rrfnpump
Feb 10th, 2006, 01:02 PM
Vera is one of the most talented russian players
she just ruins her talents with her mentality and thats why many rank Vera so low

but she will bounce back :bounce:
its just a matter of time

goldenlox
Feb 10th, 2006, 03:06 PM
You have to judge players on consistency. And Vera hasn't shown any since 2004.
Talentwise, Vera is right there. But the others work harder than Vera does.
It takes mental effort to focus, and Vera doesn't do the work needed to win matches.

pav
Feb 10th, 2006, 06:46 PM
At least you lot can post on this thread, I'm toohttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/kahu/images3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/kahu/images4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/kahu/images2.jpg I'd better grow up and get over it

andrewbroad
Feb 10th, 2006, 11:12 PM
Talentwise, Vera is right there. But the others work harder than Vera does.
It takes mental effort to focus, and Vera doesn't do the work needed to win matches.

This is not the Vera Zvonarëva I knew before 2005, when she contracted an energy-sapping virus. She would always fight to the bitter end.

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Epigone
Feb 11th, 2006, 03:08 AM
This is not the Vera Zvonarëva I knew before 2005, when she contracted an energy-sapping virus. She would always fight to the bitter end.I think that GL has a point :o

If you compare Bepa and Nadia, you'll see a difference in philosophy. Nadia admitted that the mental part of her game was a weakness, and she seems to have started to work on it. Sure, her brain still freezes when she plays Maria, but she isn't losing in the 1st round like she did so many times in 2004.

On the other hand, Bepa seems to basically brush aside comments about her getting emotional on court. There seems to have been no improvement over the years. I don't know if the emotional outbursts are the cause or effect of her poor performances, but they have got to stop :sad:

goldenlox
Feb 11th, 2006, 03:09 PM
I think if Vera really wanted to win a match, she knows how to focus and play smart.
To play under control.
2004 gave her some money, and now it's not vital that she wins these matches.
So she's goofing around too much.

Epigone
Feb 12th, 2006, 08:35 AM
Check out this (http://wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=7334796&postcount=1) quiz that someone made

L.Finally, how would you describe your on-court mentality strength?
A.Zvonareva style. I get annoyed and distracted easily.
B.Very calm
C.I don't know/somewhere in between Zvonareva and Henin-Hardenne:rolls:

Yep, that's Bepa :o

Epigone
Feb 13th, 2006, 06:24 AM
More Bepa-bashing antics in this (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=220055) thread :yawn:

rrfnpump
Feb 13th, 2006, 11:18 AM
I dont even read such threads as I already know the content :o

Eggy took Memphis points off in his new ranks and Vera still in Top50
Vera now #43 (could be #44 next Monday if Razzano gets some points) and #42 is Serena

goldenlox
Feb 13th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Since Vera isn't doing well in singles, she's doing the right thing by taking doubles eriously.
Especially with the Olympics in 2008, it's good for Vera to keep making the YEC, keep her doubles ranking good.

Epigone
Feb 14th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Who's the most mentally weak player in Top 50? (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=220270)

I think we know which player was named most often :tape: :sobbing:

Foot's Fingers
Feb 15th, 2006, 07:05 AM
Who's the most mentally weak player in Top 50? (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=220270)

I think we know which player was named most often :tape: :sobbing:


this polls become more boring

no need to open to know the result

But look at Momo, finally she win her mental weekness

Hope Vera can do the same

Epigone
Feb 17th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Here (http://www.tennisdvd.org/russianroundtable.html) is the "Russian Roundtable" interview again :p

There's a nice Bepa pic on that page :)

I still love this:WORD ASSOCIATION

America
Petrova: “Big portions”
Zvonareva: “Boring”
Kuznetsova: “Lots of fast food”
Dementieva: “Hamburgers”
Myskina: “Far from home”:rolls:

goldenlox
Feb 18th, 2006, 03:32 PM
Vera plays Sfar in Dubai, she is #258 and got a WC. Then Schiavone or Razzano.

Epigone
Feb 18th, 2006, 03:36 PM
(4)Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL) v BYE
Kveta Peschke (CZE) v Q
Vera Zvonareva (RUS) v (wc)Selima Sfar (TUN)
(7)Francesca Schiavone (ITA) v Virginie Razzano (FRA)

I think that this is a nice draw :yeah:

Still, the Memphis field is a lot weaker...

goldenlox
Feb 18th, 2006, 03:40 PM
Her draw is much better than Elena L.
But she will have to play well to get to Justine.

daniela86
Feb 18th, 2006, 03:41 PM
Vera plays Sfar in Dubai, she is #258 and got a WC. Then Schiavone or Razzano.
I think it's a very good draw but it's up to Vera to take advantage of it.Hope she won't waste a chance to grab points as she did in Pattaya.
Davai Vera!!! :bigclap: :bigclap: I hope she'll play doubles with Likhovsteva this week :D :D It's high time you bounce back :kiss:

Solitaire
Feb 18th, 2006, 03:48 PM
Bes of luck to Vera in Dubai let's leave all the ugliness behind.

goldenlox
Feb 18th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Vera played well in Aukland. She has to find that form.
She's played some bad tennis since then.

rrfnpump
Feb 18th, 2006, 04:59 PM
Vera simply cannot lose to Sfar - this is a thing that will never happen
(well, I also said sth similar about Lena V vs Pratt :tape: )

but I am very positive Vera will win at least one matches - two are also possible. and you never know how Henin got over the Oz open.

Hope we will see Vera/Lena in doubles

Vass22
Feb 18th, 2006, 09:34 PM
Any messages i should pass on to Verochka when i meet her in Dubai (i'm guaranteed to)? But please keep it short... i'm shy. ;)

Vass22
Feb 18th, 2006, 09:36 PM
Vera simply cannot lose to Sfar - this is a thing that will never happen

Sfar has a big serve... i still remember what she did to JHH two years ago.

Please Vera, be a good girl and send Selima packing in one hour.

rrfnpump
Feb 19th, 2006, 06:50 AM
Any messages i should pass on to Verochka when i meet her in Dubai (i'm guaranteed to)? But please keep it short... i'm shy. ;)

my message for her would be : :smash: :smash:
:lol:

no seriously, I wish her best of luck for the rest of 2006 and that she starts enjoying tennis on the court ;)

tobi
Feb 19th, 2006, 09:10 AM
Come on Vera,you cant lose vs. Selima please :help:

Last year Lena won vs. Selima by third set tiebreak through :eek:

nick_chicane
Feb 19th, 2006, 09:14 AM
Any messages i should pass on to Verochka when i meet her in Dubai (i'm guaranteed to)? But please keep it short... i'm shy. ;)

If you want it short and sweet then just give her a good luck message from all of us here at wtaworld! :)

Epigone
Feb 19th, 2006, 03:20 PM
(1)Likhovtseva/Zvonareva v (wc)Rodionova/Vesnina
Dushevina/Kostanic v Q

(4)Huber/Navratilova v (wc)Jankovic/N.Li
Peschke/Schiavone v Krizan/Vanc

Kirilenko/Myskina v Mirza/Vento-Kabchi
(3)Hantuchova/Sugiyama v Nagyova/Washington

T.Li/Sun v Kuznetsova/Petrova
(2)Yan/Zheng v Cohen Aloro/Sfar

Take the title! :cool:

goldenlox
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:07 PM
Any messages i should pass on to Verochka when i meet her in Dubai (i'm guaranteed to)? But please keep it short... i'm shy. ;)Tell Vera that goldenlox says to win some matches

the cat
Feb 19th, 2006, 05:24 PM
GL is always cracking the whip on the Russina's. ;)

Vass, tell Vera she has a beautiful smile and that she should smile more. :) It's still early in the 2006 season and it's time for Verochka to start playing some world class tennis again. :tennis:

goldenlox
Feb 19th, 2006, 06:06 PM
This is from Wimbledon 2003 -

Who will be the first Russian to take a Slam? Myskina thinks it could be Zvonareva, the deadly serious groundstroker who upset Venus at Roland Garros.

"She could the one, but they are all really good." Myskina said. " Vera unbelievable. She was mentally weak last year but now she's a really strong person."

rrfnpump
Feb 20th, 2006, 07:01 AM
This is from Wimbledon 2003 -

Who will be the first Russian to take a Slam? Myskina thinks it could be Zvonareva, the deadly serious groundstroker who upset Venus at Roland Garros.

"She could the one, but they are all really good." Myskina said. " Vera unbelievable. She was mentally weak last year but now she's a really strong person."

how times changed since then :o

Foot's Fingers
Feb 20th, 2006, 12:35 PM
take yr chance Vera!!!

Last year Lena L beat Selima in difficults....Then Lena going up and Selima is in a slump

Epigone
Feb 21st, 2006, 01:32 AM
OOP for Tuesday
Center Court (Starting at 2PM)
Svetlana Kuznetsova vs Martina Muller
Nadia Petrova vs Maria Kirilenko
Martina Hingis vs Sania Mirza (NB 7PM)
Vera Zvonareva vs Selima Sfar

Solitaire
Feb 21st, 2006, 03:17 AM
Plz get a win Vera!

Epigone
Feb 21st, 2006, 06:25 PM
Sfar d. Bepa 2-6 7-5 6-3 :help:

Terrible loss :sobbing:

Good luck in doubles :hug:

paranoia0809
Feb 21st, 2006, 07:02 PM
Sfar d. Bepa 2-6 7-5 6-3 :help:

Terrible loss :sobbing:

Good luck in doubles :hug:


Vera :crying2:

Unbelievable that Sfar is ranked so low! What a defense and contra-attacks :eek: I saw the match on Eurosport 2 and I don't find Vera played bad at all.

Epigone
Feb 21st, 2006, 07:05 PM
Bepa hasn't won a match since the Auckland SF :shrug:

TheBoiledEgg
Feb 21st, 2006, 07:37 PM
it wasnt just bad, it was awful

Vera..... :shrug: :fiery: :(
she started to play well after going 2-5* down in 2nd
but when she got it level, tensed up again

and all this against a player who's won 1 match out of her last 17 :help:

omg Vera :help: :hug:

selyoink
Feb 21st, 2006, 08:49 PM
Wow. I can't believe Vera lost to Sfar. Looks like Vera may never get things back together.

Vass22
Feb 21st, 2006, 09:40 PM
I tried a few times to describe the match in sentances, but i guess i'm too tired. here's a list:

Sfar has a great serve.
Sfar has a great dropshot.
Sfar was a great scrambler today.
Sfar has a good volley.

Vera wasn't too goot at running down dropshots (there were LOTS of them).
On easy put aways Vera managed to lose the point, or give the ball back to Sfar to continue the rally.
Vera was not volleying enough. I have a feeling that if she did, she would have won, because many points were just BEGGING for her to come to the net, but she much too often stayed back.
Vera chose to lob a lot and everything went out.
Had much too many UEs...

Vera should have won. But she couldn't hold it together.
Sfar played exceptionally for her ranking (she always troubles opponents in Dubai), but Vera... :sad: :sad:

Vass22
Feb 21st, 2006, 10:10 PM
Vera during practice (3.5 hours before the match):

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/Dubai06/vera.jpg


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/Dubai06/vera2.jpg


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/Dubai06/vera3.jpg

Btw. Her coach didn't even bother to watch the match at the studium. He watched it in the men's dressing room at the club house.

Epigone
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:51 AM
Lex is back :cool:

Thanks for the report and pics :worship:

Btw. Her coach didn't even bother to watch the match at the studium. He watched it in the men's dressing room at the club house.I guess they agreed that she should focus on the match, rather than the stands. I think this could be a good strategy.

Solitaire
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:59 AM
Well at least she looked happy during her workout. :)

rrfnpump
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:12 AM
now its a nightmare :help:

nick_chicane
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:32 AM
Vera played pretty well, certainly first set, i always knew she'd lose once she lost the 2nd set, unfortunately, when your lacking confidence, as soon as something starts to go wrong, you just immediately think "im gonna lose now" thats just how it goes!!

Vera desperately needs a few good results cause some of the shots she played in the 1st set were of real quality, so its clear to see her game is still their, its just abit of luck that we need now!! :)

Foot's Fingers
Feb 22nd, 2006, 06:52 AM
no words :tape:

shocked

Shoulderpova
Feb 22nd, 2006, 07:06 AM
Vera and Nadia :help::help::help::help::help::help::help::help:
:help::help::help::help::help::help::help::help::h elp::help::help:

Almalyk
Feb 22nd, 2006, 08:53 AM
Poor Vera - you were looking in such good shape in Auckland! I hope it all comes together for you again - soon! :kiss:

Harju.
Feb 22nd, 2006, 01:00 PM
Bepa :hug: :bigcry:. Two bad losses in a row isn't a good sign. I'm still going to give her the benefit of the doubt. Give her time, she would start winning these matches again. Am I the only one with the positive attitude here? :p Come on now. Give Bepa some loving.

goldenlox
Feb 22nd, 2006, 02:47 PM
Btw. Her coach didn't even bother to watch the match at the studium. He watched it in the men's dressing room at the club house.

If he watched, Vera would have cursed him out.

Epigone
Feb 22nd, 2006, 02:51 PM
Bepa/Lena d. Rodionova/Vesnina 6-3 6-2 :yippee: :dance: :worship: :cool:

Once again, they faced BP while serving for the match :o

Epigone
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:03 PM
Btw. Her coach didn't even bother to watch the match at the studium. He watched it in the men's dressing room at the club house.

If he watched, Vera would have cursed him out.That's exactly what would have happened! :rolls:

Bepa needs to be able to motivate herself when she plays, rather than look for off-court support

Vass22
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:07 PM
Seeems that the guy never watches her play. Atleast he didn't watch the doubles. Watched first 3 games from the distance and went off to talk to people. I guess you are right though. Maybe Jens Gerlach should do the same for Nastya Myskina...

rrfnpump
Feb 22nd, 2006, 03:13 PM
Lena/Vera ;) :)
win this tournament!

daniela86
Feb 22nd, 2006, 07:35 PM
Nice win in doubles :D Vesnina/Rodionova are a tricky team :) but too bad she can only win in doubles currently :sad: :sad: :sad:

andrewbroad
Feb 22nd, 2006, 10:08 PM
Vera played pretty well, certainly first set, i always knew she'd lose once she lost the 2nd set, unfortunately, when your lacking confidence, as soon as something starts to go wrong, you just immediately think "im gonna lose now" thats just how it goes!!

This puts me in mind of a commentators' exchange during the Australian Open 2006 match between Maria Sharapova (http://geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/shara/) and Daniela Hantuchová (http://geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/hantu/):

Chris Bailey: "Hantuchová, after her victory over Serena Williams, talked about how she's been working on not technical aspects of her game, but mental - 'not beating herself' was the term that she used. And it's good to hear her talking like that, because that was the problem, wasn't it, that she always used to get down very heavily on top of herself when things looked like they might start to go wrong."

Sam Smith: "Yes, she found it very difficult to stay in the moment of what she was doing, so her mind would go forward. That's something that Sharapova has always been really disciplined on - staying in the match at that time."

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/)

Epigone
Feb 23rd, 2006, 09:24 AM
OOP for Thursday
Court 3 (to be arranged)
1. Likhovtseva/Zvonareva vs. A.Bondarenko/K.Bondarenko

OMG, my two favourite doubles teams are facing each other :eek:

I sooooooo wanna see it :bigcry:

Everyone stay healthy :kiss:

Epigone
Feb 24th, 2006, 03:27 PM
It was 6-3 4-6 *3-4 when rain stopped play

Bepa and Lena missed a BP chance in the previous game, as they have done a number of times in the match :sad:

It's vital that they hold when they get back on court

Epigone
Feb 24th, 2006, 05:00 PM
A.Bondarenko/K.Bondarenko d. Bepa/Lena 3-6 6-4 6-4 :eek: :crying2:

Bepa/Lena were 5/21 on BP, and that's what cost them the match :shrug:

pav
Feb 24th, 2006, 07:13 PM
:fiery: I keep getting :The server is too busy at the moment
it should have read: The servers are not being broken enough at the moment :sad:

Vass22
Feb 24th, 2006, 08:17 PM
When they came back from rain stop Lena wasn't playing well. That's what cost them the match.

rrfnpump
Feb 25th, 2006, 07:20 AM
:(

goldenlox
Feb 25th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Vera plays Li in Doha

rrfnpump
Feb 25th, 2006, 04:53 PM
thats a tough draw again
if she doesnt get it together it will be another first round upset

goldenlox
Feb 25th, 2006, 05:26 PM
I'm disappointed in that doubles loss. They should win those matches.

Epigone
Feb 25th, 2006, 10:29 PM
Hantuchova 5- Peschke
Zvonareva - Li
Medina vs. q
Petrova 2 -bye

Peschke :unsure:

Nadia :sad: :(

David Barker
Feb 26th, 2006, 02:00 PM
Where will Vera's ranking be? - after R1 loss last week, and of course she won Memphis last year.........

Epigone
Feb 26th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Where will Vera's ranking be? - after R1 loss last week, and of course she won Memphis last year.........TBE has her at #49

goldenlox
Feb 26th, 2006, 05:16 PM
This is actually a good draw for Vera. The high seeds in her half are players she can beat.
If she plays well, she can do something in Doha.

Daniel
Feb 27th, 2006, 12:36 AM
Go VEra :hug: make Doha a succeful week :)

Epigone
Feb 27th, 2006, 08:00 AM
OOP for Monday
Court 2 (3pm)
Ting Li vs Tatiana Poutchek
Vera Zvonareva vs Na Li (NB 4.30 pm)
Anastasia Myksina & Maria Kirilenko vs Zi Yan & Jie Zheng (NB 6.30 pm)

Please win!!! ;)

Solitaire
Feb 27th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Good Luck Vera u can do it!!! No more losing in the 1st rnd!

Epigone
Feb 27th, 2006, 08:53 AM
Doubles draw (http://www.qatartennis.org/qatartotalopen/images/draw_doubles.gif)

Bepa and Lena are seeded #1 and face Krizan and Vanc in the 1st round

Epigone
Feb 27th, 2006, 01:29 PM
Bepa lost the 1st set 4-6 after twice being up a break and leading 40-0* at 4-4

What the hell is going on? :banghead: :help: :shrug: :sad:

Epigone
Feb 27th, 2006, 02:11 PM
Bepa lost 4-6 4-6 :sobbing:

She blew a *4-1 lead in the 2nd, and although she saved MPx3, she couldn't avoid being broken in the final game :sad:

Good luck in doubles :hug:

rrfnpump
Feb 27th, 2006, 02:13 PM
we have a serious problem now
Vera hasnt won a match since ages

and nobody knows the reason

Foot's Fingers
Feb 27th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Vera

It's become too tough for yr fans


leading 4-1 in second set

Saving 3 mps

Loosing

Too tough for me now

goldenlox
Feb 27th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Vera played well in Aukland, but now she's doing terribly.

Shoulderpova
Feb 27th, 2006, 02:28 PM
oh well done :shrug:
how can she blow 4*-1 lead? :shrug:
when will she start winning again? :shrug:
Bepa doesn't have any вера at all :shrug:

Epigone
Feb 27th, 2006, 02:29 PM
She won just 2 of the final 9 points in the 1st set, and then blew a double break lead in the 2nd :help:

Talk about lapses in concentration :sad:

UDACHi
Feb 27th, 2006, 10:05 PM
Vera fans. :hug:

nick_chicane
Feb 27th, 2006, 10:17 PM
Unfortunately, its all about confidence, if theirs none their, you just cant do anything right!! :sad:

It is so depressing but as ive said so many times this year, no matter how bad we feel, Vera feels alot worse! :sad:

Solitaire
Feb 28th, 2006, 05:26 AM
Vera what are we going to do with u!?

Epigone
Feb 28th, 2006, 07:09 AM
Tuesday, February 28, 2006
Court 1 (from 15.00hrs)
1. Kirilenko vs. T.Li
2. Likhovtseva/Zvonareva vs. Krizan/Vanc
3. Huber/M.Navratilova vs. Daniilidou/Medina Garrigues (after suitable rest)
4. Peschke/Schiavone vs. N.Uberoi/S.Uberoi (after suitable rest)

Epigone
Feb 28th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Bepa/Lena d. Krizan/Vanc 7-5 6-2 :dance: :bigclap: :worship:

The first set was just :help:, as they were broken four times :o

Shoulderpova
Feb 28th, 2006, 02:24 PM
at least Vera/Lena won't leave Doha empty-handed :lol:

Foot's Fingers
Feb 28th, 2006, 02:45 PM
congrats

goldenlox
Feb 28th, 2006, 03:34 PM
Vera and Lena are both playing lousy. It's like they've decided to just play doubles, and they enter singles for the fun of it.

I might do that if I was playing, but I expect Vera to work, work, work :nerner:

pav
Feb 28th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Bepa/Lena d. Krizan/Vanc 7-5 6-2 :dance: :bigclap: :worship:

The first set was just :help:, as they were broken four times :o

Hell, I was just going through your score posts,if there had been any :sad: ,we could have called it Breakback Fountain!

rrfnpump
Feb 28th, 2006, 05:18 PM
just watched a bit of Sfar vs Sugiyama......

how could Bepa lose to that player
good first serve??? :lol:

Foot's Fingers
Mar 1st, 2006, 08:24 AM
just watched a bit of Sfar vs Sugiyama......

how could Bepa lose to that player
good first serve??? :lol:

Have watched this match too

And wondering as well

Some good points from Sfar not more

Epigone
Mar 2nd, 2006, 05:30 AM
OOP for Thursday
Court1
Maria VENTO-KABCHI (VEN)/Vera DUSHEVINA (RUS)
vs
Zi Yan (CHN)/Jie Zheng(CHN)

Followed by
Vera Zvonareva(RUS)/Elena Likhovtseva(RUS)
vs
Kveta Peschke(CZE)/Francesca Schiavone(ITA)

Shoulderpova
Mar 2nd, 2006, 06:54 AM
:unsure: :scared:

pav
Mar 2nd, 2006, 07:04 AM
Those two baddies will have to rattle their dags to beat Franny/Kveta, so hope they play well :)

Almalyk
Mar 2nd, 2006, 08:46 AM
Poor Vera - I hope she gets going soon. Think back to the early rounds in Auckland - you were on fire!

Epigone
Mar 2nd, 2006, 05:31 PM
(1) Likhovtseva/Zvonareva (RUS/RUS) d. Peschke/Schiavone (CZE/ITA) walkover (Peschke - personal) :shrug: :hug:

goldenlox
Mar 2nd, 2006, 05:53 PM
Now they're doubles specialists, like Stubbs.

rrfnpump
Mar 2nd, 2006, 05:56 PM
Elena was always a better doubles than singles player

Vera has three singles and three doubles titles
she has a career high of #9 in singles and #9 in doubles

UDACHi
Mar 2nd, 2006, 07:00 PM
I kind of like Vera, but it might just be sympathy. :awww:

Epigone
Mar 3rd, 2006, 07:24 AM
Friday, March 3, 2006
Court 1 (from 17.00hrs)
1. Likhovtseva/Zvonareva vs. T.Li/Sun

At least I finally know the exact starting time for one of Bepa's matches :D

Shoulderpova
Mar 3rd, 2006, 09:14 AM
they def the chinese duet before so they can do it again :cool: :smoke:

daniela86
Mar 3rd, 2006, 11:09 AM
they def the chinese duet before so they can do it again :cool: :smoke:
Exactly :cool: Udachi Bepa/Lena :yippee: I may be wrong but I'm optimistic about this match :D

Epigone
Mar 3rd, 2006, 01:09 PM
Now they're doubles specialists, like Stubbs.Bepa/Lena are also kinda sucking in doubles as well :o

5/21 on BP in their loss to the Bondarenko sisters :help:

Epigone
Mar 3rd, 2006, 02:43 PM
Bepa/Lena lost 3-6 4-6 :sobbing:

Horrible match :help:

They had a BP at 4-5 in the 2nd, but blew it :o

rrfnpump
Mar 3rd, 2006, 02:44 PM
cant say I am too surprised they lost
4/10 on BP this time

:sad:

goldenlox
Mar 3rd, 2006, 02:53 PM
At the end of 2004, I thought Vera and Sveta would be the future of the Russian Fed Cup team.
I don't understand what's happened to her.

Solitaire
Mar 4th, 2006, 06:08 AM
^Vera is just an emotional person which translates into her game. As fans of Vera we just have to be ready for the rollercoaster ride that will be her career. The good times will be great and the bad times will be horrible but I and hopefully the rest of u will be fans none the less.

rrfnpump
Mar 4th, 2006, 07:56 AM
http://i2.tinypic.com/qowuw4.jpg
©Sony Ericsson WTA Tou>
Doha, Qatar: Vera Zvonareva paid a visit to the Mercedes booth and met with some of her fans.

http://i2.tinypic.com/qowv1g.jpg
©Sony Ericsson WTA Tou>
Doha, Qatar: Vera Zvonareva also visited the Harley Davidson exhibit. The winner of the singles title will take home one of their motorcycles in addition to her prize money.

nick_chicane
Mar 4th, 2006, 10:00 AM
Well at least she looked good! :sad:

Epigone
Mar 4th, 2006, 10:16 AM
Doha, Qatar: Vera Zvonareva paid a visit to the Mercedes booth and met with some of her fansShe had fans at the tournament? I thought most of her fans would be under sedation in hospital due to the mental trauma that she has inflicted :tape:

I'm seriously glad that Bepa didn't win the motorcycle. Talk about a potential menace on the road :unsure:

Epigone
Mar 6th, 2006, 11:14 AM
I just noticed this (http://wtaworld.com/member.php?u=41857) new member

What are the odds that they are a Bepa fan? :o :bolt:

(although Anna Chakvetadze is kinda becoming Bepa Mark II :sad: )

rrfnpump
Mar 6th, 2006, 12:33 PM
(although Anna Chakvetadze is kinda becoming Bepa Mark II :sad: )

but nobody comes close to our Bepa :bounce:

Vera unseeded in Miami - I dont like that

RR-87
Mar 6th, 2006, 04:38 PM
I hope that Vera will finally show consistant game in USA :worship:

rrfnpump
Mar 8th, 2006, 07:07 AM
I think a loss would be horrible, because Bepa would be at the beginning of a big slump :sad:

I said this one year ago when Vera lost to Llagostera-Vives

rrfnpump
Mar 8th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Q. You looked in deep trouble in the third set, but you didn't give up. You came back after a bad start in the third set. Is that just your normal fighting out there?
VERA ZVONAREVA: Yeah. But, I mean, she started to play pretty good like third set. She started to hit well. I don't know, I didn't know what to do.
But then I said, "I should play my game. Maybe I can do better."

Q. Do you think that you let frustrations get to you?
VERA ZVONAREVA: Yeah, I don't know. I wasn't so confident after the second set 'cause I hit like some easy mistakes over there. I don't know, maybe that's why I start really good.
Myself, it was really windy. I just tried to like hit the serve and it was always hell because it's not possible to.
Then I just -- when it was changeover, I just thought, "Okay, I have to play with more speed."

Q. At the changeovers you put your face in the towel. Is that something you always do or you were just doing because you were angry or frustrated?
VERA ZVONAREVA: No, always (smiling).

Q. What are the elements of your game that you want to make better between now and the end of the year?
VERA ZVONAREVA: Maybe like my serve. Because it's like when I started to play, it was good. Barely lose a game. But second set wasn't so good.
Then I should go to the net more.

Q. When you got to 4-4 in the second set, were you thinking, "I've got this, I can win this one"?
VERA ZVONAREVA: No. I just said, "Okay, this point. This one. Next." I didn't think this. You can't say like that, "Okay, I got this match." Even when you have like 6-0, 5-0 (inaudible).


and this is from 2002 when she lost to Kim Clijsters

Foot's Fingers
Mar 8th, 2006, 08:13 AM
Vera :hug:

Terriable to see current form

slk45
Mar 9th, 2006, 03:24 AM
Vera has committed to Amelia Island. :hug:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
See my post on zvonareva.com board for details. :yeah:

Epigone
Mar 9th, 2006, 07:43 AM
It wasn't possible to copy and paste text from the tournament website, so I had to do things a different way :p
Here are the sections that matter :)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5049/ai14da.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/347/ai29ja.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

nick_chicane
Mar 9th, 2006, 03:50 PM
Why didnt she play Indian Wells?

Foot's Fingers
Mar 14th, 2006, 12:47 PM
I just have gone and looked where is my lovely Nastya Rodionova in Race to the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour Championships (she is not very often in this list in top 100 that's why) Look what I have found:

70 PIRONKOVA, TSVETANA BUL 77.00 4
71 BYCHKOVA, EKATERINA RUS 76.00 5
72 FEDAK, YULIANA UKR 75.00 5
73 RODIONOVA, ANASTASSIA RUS 73.00 6
73 ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS 73.00 6
75 ANI, MARET EST 71.00 5

I always wants Nastya to be on Vera level....... but pls not on such level

Even i am proud of Nastya but Vera.......

rrfnpump
Mar 15th, 2006, 02:36 PM
interesting find
I dont wanna imagine which ranking she had without Auckland :help:

its way too quite here at the moment :shout:
I think we need a new cartoon, pav! :hehehe:

by the way, my sheep Bepa is fine

Epigone
Mar 15th, 2006, 02:53 PM
interesting find
I dont wanna imagine which ranking she had without Auckland :help:She struggled at the beginning of last year (except for Memphis) and missed IW because of illness, so there weren't a heap of points to defend. The important thing is that she doesn't start to panic :unsure:. I really think that she can halt this slide if she stays positive :)

I think we need a new cartoon, pav! :hehehe:I've already suggested that to him in a rep, so let's keep our fingers crossed :angel:

goldenlox
Mar 15th, 2006, 03:05 PM
Vera is heading towards slam qualies.

pav
Mar 15th, 2006, 08:13 PM
Bepa went to the Carnival
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/kahu/SLIDEmx.jpgBepa Bepa visited the Carnival
She thought She'd enjoy a ride
but imagine Her fears
when She saw the pool of tears
at the end of the Rankings Side:hysteric:
I can only re post this one from months ago at the moment, I thought it was a bit mean at the time but..

Epigone
Mar 16th, 2006, 03:14 AM
Vera is heading towards slam qualies.I thought you were improving :p. A reasonable result in Miami will set up a good run into the clay season, and then I think her results will pick up :)

On that note, look (http://www.nasdaq100open.com/news/pr/news21737.html) who will be seeded #32 for Miami :angel:. She has to take advantage of this lucky break!

rrfnpump
Mar 16th, 2006, 07:59 AM
wow, Vera seeded :eek: :eek:
this time I hope she gets a wild card - Anna Tatishvili

Epigone
Mar 16th, 2006, 12:21 PM
Bepa went to the Carnival You forgot to include the part of the slide that flings her skyward and towards #1 :p

Epigone
Mar 17th, 2006, 12:50 AM
The Cry Babies on Tour? (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=225514)

Hmmm, I wonder who most people named...:scratch: :tape:

Foot's Fingers
Mar 17th, 2006, 01:30 PM
wow, Vera seeded :eek: :eek:
this time I hope she gets a wild card - Anna Tatishvili
I think it's just a The list of direct entries so suppose seeds will be done according ranking of next Monday (as it was on IW)

Epigone
Mar 17th, 2006, 01:38 PM
I think it's just a The list of direct entries so suppose seeds will be done according ranking of next Monday (as it was on IW)You're right :o

I've just been so used to her seeding being approximately her ranking on the entry list that I sometimes forget how far she's fallen :sobbing:

rrfnpump
Mar 17th, 2006, 01:47 PM
actually it doesnt really matter if she is seeded or not
what she needs is a bit of luck

ok, out of the players that are in MD I want her to draw one of these
* Karolina Sprem
* Maria Vento-Kabchi
* Kristina Brandi
* Antonella Serra-Zanetti
* Meghann Shuaghnessy
* Anna Tatishvili

Epigone
Mar 17th, 2006, 02:24 PM
ok, out of the players that are in MD I want her to draw one of these
* Karolina Sprem
* Maria Vento-Kabchi
* Kristina Brandi
* Antonella Serra-Zanetti
* Meghann Shaughnessy
* Anna TatishviliFor some reason, that brings back terrible memories of: Stanford 05 Q-M Shaughnessy - (5)V Zvonareva 6-3 1-6 7-6(6), with Bepa blowing MP :bigcry:

Other than that, she pretty much owns Meghann (she should have also won at the '03 US Open, given her form at that time :sad: )

If she decides to turn up with a confident mindset, I don't see why she can't have a good tournament :)

rrfnpump
Mar 17th, 2006, 02:40 PM
I included Meghann in my "wish-list", cause Vera-Meghann matches are always interesting and close - could be a good starting match for Bepa

http://i2.tinypic.com/rkx1qc.jpg

horrible :sad:

goldenlox
Mar 17th, 2006, 02:56 PM
That is a joke. Vera made the YEC in 2004.
Now she's a 10k player.

Sunny_Boy
Mar 17th, 2006, 10:28 PM
Hopefully Vera can get a win or two in Miami. It would be great for her confidence

Epigone
Mar 17th, 2006, 11:25 PM
That is a joke. Vera made the YEC in 2004.
Now she's a 10k player.:tape:

Sprem is still hanging around the top 75 despite struggling pretty badly, so there's no need to panic just yet. Bepa doesn't have a whole lot of points to defend before RG (just AI and Rome), so things can be turned around :)

daniela86
Mar 18th, 2006, 10:29 AM
actually it doesnt really matter if she is seeded or not
what she needs is a bit of luck

ok, out of the players that are in MD I want her to draw one of these
* Karolina Sprem
* Maria Vento-Kabchi
* Kristina Brandi
* Antonella Serra-Zanetti
* Meghann Shuaghnessy
* Anna Tatishvili
I wouldn't mind if she would face Kleybanova,I think we can add her in this list,she isn't that much in shape as well.Moreover,at least one of them would reach the second round which is a good thing :D About Meghann,her confidence isn't so low because she won some matchs in Acapulco and took a set to Domachowska last week so I would be a bit scared if she has to face Vera :scared:
Good luck Vera,plz win a match :kiss: :D Even if she wins a match and loses just after,I'll be satisfied. Davai!! :cool:

rrfnpump
Mar 20th, 2006, 05:54 PM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=225873

I cant believe some posters are discussing if Vera "is over" :cuckoo:
man, Vera needs some good results to make them all shut up
they dont have a clue :shout:

it makes me mad :(
I hope Vera gets a nice draw. I dont know about Alisa, she is good.
me still hoping for Tatishvili :)

Epigone
Mar 20th, 2006, 07:53 PM
1st round in Miami, Bepa is playing.....Vera Dushevina :unsure:

She most definitely has the game to beat her, but does she have the self belief?

Remember, the downward spiral began against Vera in Sydney, and if she turns up with the attitude that she displayed in that match, she will be out of there pretty quickly :sad:

Oh, the winner of the match plays Sveta and then Martina :rolleyes:

This tournament will be a real test, but Bepa's success will hinge on whether or not she thinks that she can compete

Epigone
Mar 20th, 2006, 08:02 PM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=225873

I cant believe some posters are discussing if Vera "is over" :cuckoo:
man, Vera needs some good results to make them all shut up
they dont have a clue :shout:Already read it and :rolleyes: at it :p

However, I think Volcana is at least partially right :sad: Vera Zvonareva - I think her biggest stumbling block might be she doesn't enjoy playing. I can't think of any other reason why she can't return to the top ten. But that's a BIG reason.

Sunny_Boy
Mar 21st, 2006, 12:05 AM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=225873

I cant believe some posters are discussing if Vera "is over" :cuckoo:
man, Vera needs some good results to make them all shut up
they dont have a clue :shout:



Some people :rolleyes:
All Vera needs is a few good wins and she'll be back. This week is important though, if she beats Duschevina, i'll give her a shot to beat Sveta.
Good luck Bepa

Solitaire
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:53 AM
She's far from "over". Vera's been doing this her whole life I think a little break might do her good esp if she's not enjoying it. Best of luck in Miami!

Almalyk
Mar 21st, 2006, 04:54 AM
Good luck in Miami Vera!
Get back on track babe!

rrfnpump
Mar 21st, 2006, 06:01 AM
Dushevina again :fiery:
beat "that bitch" this time, Vera Z :D

Epigone
Mar 21st, 2006, 07:50 AM
She's far from "over". Vera's been doing this her whole life I think a little break might do her good esp if she's not enjoying it. Best of luck in Miami!:yeah:

She defeated Kirilenko 6-2 6-0 and Hantuchova 6-2 6-2 less than 2 1/2 months ago, but now some people think she's finished? :shrug:

Her only bad losses since then (and they were bad :o) were to Suarez and Sfar, so it's not as though she's done. She should just go out there and have some fun, and the results will come :)

rrfnpump
Mar 21st, 2006, 07:55 AM
Her only bad losses since then (and they were bad :o) were to Suarez and Sfar, so it's not as though she's done.

her loss against Sfar was not bad ..... it was horrible, awful, pathetic

I hope she beats Dushevina. She should, because Dushevina is bad - horrible serve and an erratic FH

Epigone
Mar 21st, 2006, 08:33 AM
her loss against Sfar was not bad ..... it was horrible, awful, patheticYes, it should never have happened :help:. However, when you don't believe in yourself, things like that can sometimes happen :sad:

I hope she beats Dushevina. She should, because Dushevina is bad - horrible serve and an erratic FHBasti and his Vera D hate :lol:

Yes, her serve is definitely a weakness, but that doesn't mean that Bepa should just tee-off on it. She has to control her shots, because she was very erratic in Sydney when she tried to end points early.

pav
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:14 AM
Bepa needs to remember what she was overheard saying round the back after her loss to VD, something along the lines of "I just hate losing to that f*cking bitch" accompanied by a few tears :) you've gotta love her!

Foot's Fingers
Mar 21st, 2006, 01:38 PM
Real difficult think for Vera
May be it's better then Suarez and Selima in first rnds

goldenlox
Mar 21st, 2006, 03:44 PM
This is toughest section of the draw, because Sveta and Hingis are right there.
The Vera of 2004 would have a chance to go far.
The Vera of 2006 and Vera D., should be a good match.

nick_chicane
Mar 21st, 2006, 07:35 PM
Bepa needs to remember what she was overheard saying round the back after her loss to VD, something along the lines of "I just hate losing to that f*cking bitch" accompanied by a few tears :) you've gotta love her!

Was Vera really heard saying that? :lol:

Sunny_Boy
Mar 21st, 2006, 10:43 PM
Vera is playing her 1st round match tomorrow!!
Good Luck Bepa!!

Epigone
Mar 22nd, 2006, 02:57 AM
Was Vera really heard saying that? :lol:Yeah, she was a bit worked up after her match in Sydney :o

Epigone
Mar 22nd, 2006, 04:54 AM
Bepa's quarter of the doubles draw
Shinobu Asagoe (JPN)/Katarina Srebotnik (SLO) [8]
vs.
Jennifer Russell (USA)/Andreea Vanc (ROM)

Qualifier
vs.
Kim Clijsters (BEL)/Caroline Maes (BEL)

Ana Ivanovic (SCG)/Sania Mirza (IND)
vs.
Maria Elena Camerin (ITA)/Tathiana Garbin (ITA)

Kveta Peschke (CZE)/Francesca Schiavone (ITA)
vs.
Elena Likhovtseva (RUS)/Vera Zvonareva (RUS) [4]

nick_chicane
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:03 AM
Yeah, she was a bit worked up after her match in Sydney :o

But why does she dislike Vera D so much?

rrfnpump
Mar 22nd, 2006, 06:12 AM
Peschke/Schiavone :help:

Harju.
Mar 22nd, 2006, 07:11 AM
Udachi Bepa. You are more than capable to beat the other Bepa. Good luck.

Almalyk
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:17 AM
Good luck Vera tomorrow! I really hope you win and it begins to boost your confidence in singles.

Epigone
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:35 AM
But why does she dislike Vera D so much?I don't think that it's anything personal

I just think Bepa dislikes most people who beat her, especially when she is in a :shout: mood during the match ;)

Foot's Fingers
Mar 22nd, 2006, 12:44 PM
Doubles draw :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: The worst that could be

rrfnpump
Mar 22nd, 2006, 04:04 PM
I want Vera to be agressive tonight :armed:
hitting deep at other Vera's FH

http://i1.tinypic.com/s1hi6p.jpg

pav
Mar 22nd, 2006, 05:50 PM
I wanna hear bepa was overheard after the match saying "I just love beating the shit out of that F*ckin @%$#*+!bitch":)

Epigone
Mar 22nd, 2006, 09:59 PM
:haha: @ Basti and pav

She needs to let the :shout: out in the form of winners :D

Epigone
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:36 PM
Bepa won 6-4 6-2 :bounce: :yippee: :dance: :bowdown: :banana: :worship: :drink: :cool: :D :drive:

Sunny_Boy
Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:49 PM
Congrats Bepa!! Good Lucka against Sveta

Almalyk
Mar 22nd, 2006, 11:28 PM
Bepa won 6-4 6-2 :bounce: :yippee: :dance: :bowdown: :banana: :worship: :drink: :cool: :D :drive:

This is great news! :kiss:
Please Vera, return to the girl I saw in Auckland :D

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 23rd, 2006, 02:58 AM
well done Vera, finally a win again :yeah: :D :)
wish it wasnt vs other Vera though :sad:

Solitaire
Mar 23rd, 2006, 04:33 AM
I'm happy Bepa won! :D Who would have thought one match would be such a big deal. Plz keep it up Bepa!

RR-87
Mar 23rd, 2006, 05:15 AM
Congrats Vera :yeah:
It's very important win for you

rrfnpump
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:03 AM
:woohoo:

she did what I told here :devil:
I hope this gives her confidence! Beat Kuznetsova now, Vera :D

Harju.
Mar 23rd, 2006, 06:14 AM
I want Vera to be agressive tonight :armed:
hitting deep at other Vera's FH

http://i1.tinypic.com/s1hi6p.jpg
:haha: :haha:.

Udachi Bepa. Against Sveta would be tough, but if she's having a good day, I can see an upset.

Foot's Fingers
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:29 AM
Vera :woohoo:

All started with lose to Vera d in AO 2005
Hope this win is a signal for turnover

Foot's Fingers
Mar 23rd, 2006, 07:29 AM
Lena/Vera will start their doubles campaign today

GOOD LUCK

Foot's Fingers
Mar 23rd, 2006, 08:36 AM
btw, Vera enters Estoril List
Tier IV - another try?

Epigone
Mar 23rd, 2006, 08:42 AM
btw, Vera enters Estoril List
Tier IV - another try?I was just about to post the same thing :p

Entry list (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=226555)

She has decided to play Estoril instead of Warsaw...

I think that there is less chance of her being upset on clay than on hardcourt, especially given her current slump. What's more, a number of players on that list are also on the qualifying list for Estoril, so the field might thin out even more

nick_chicane
Mar 23rd, 2006, 11:28 AM
Yeah, its good to see her win again!! Lets just hope we can get 2 in a row!! :)

tobi
Mar 23rd, 2006, 12:10 PM
Vera :woohoo: :kiss:

Finlly another win ;)

now vs. Sveta :scared: but u can win this too :hug:

good luck :)

Epigone
Mar 23rd, 2006, 01:03 PM
Match stats (http://www.nasdaq-100open.com/stats/WS126.html)

Her serve was probably pretty :help:, but she still kept things together :yeah:

OOP for Thursday
Court 7 (from 10.00hrs)
1. Kleybanova vs. Razzano
2. Bychkova vs. Castano
3. ATP: Montanes vs. Kunitsyn
4. Peschke/Schiavone vs. Likhovtseva/Zvonareva

Foot's Fingers
Mar 24th, 2006, 08:01 AM
Due To Delays They Will Play Doubles Tonight

Almalyk
Mar 24th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Good luck vs Kuzzie!! :kiss:
Concentrate Vera. Just like Auckland, You can beat anyone on your day. :hearts:

nick_chicane
Mar 24th, 2006, 03:53 PM
Oh tough match, good luck Vera!! :)