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Epigone
Aug 1st, 2005, 01:12 AM
(1) Black/Stubbs (ZIM/AUS) d. (2) Likhovtseva/Zvonareva (RUS/RUS) 6-3 7-5 :sobbing: :bigcry: :crying2: :sad:

Still, this week will help them a lot in the race to the YEC, since they were the only top team playing (if you know what I mean).

Epigone
Aug 1st, 2005, 05:22 AM
Doubles draw - San Diego
BENESOVA/STEWART
LEE/PENG

TALAJA/WASHINGTON
DANIILIDOU/RUSSELL

KAUFMAN/NELSON
DEMENTIEVA/GOLOVIN

BYE
LIKHOVTSEVA/ZVONAREVA

The #3 seeds in their section are Martinez/Ruano Pascual

Daniel
Aug 1st, 2005, 06:12 AM
well itnst thad bat after all. Those two are veterans and haven #1 in doubles before so no shame losoing to them.

Good luck this week Vera and Elena :D

Epigone
Aug 1st, 2005, 12:57 PM
Bepa and Lena are now #6 in the Race, and just 7 points behind Raymond and Stubbs, despite playing 4 less tournaments.

However, that doesn't really matter because Black and Stubbs don't seem to be playing together now, and #4 team in the Race (Stewart/Stosur) aren't playing together this week (don't know if they'll keep playing together), the #3 team of Sveta/Alicia might not play for awhile, and the same goes for the #2 team of Ruano Pascual/Suarez, and the #1 team of Black/Huber isn't together for at least San Diego.

The bottom line is that Bepa and Lena are one of the only top teams that seem to be playing together consistently, which means that they should be in a very strong position to make the YEC :dance:

Epigone
Aug 1st, 2005, 01:54 PM
Bepa has dropped to #16 in the singles rankings this week :crying2:

Look at her quality points :eek: :sad:

That's what happens when you throw away GS matches :o

goldenlox
Aug 1st, 2005, 02:34 PM
Vera drew great this week. This would be a good week to start playing well.

_LuCaS_
Aug 1st, 2005, 08:11 PM
Bepa has dropped to #16 in the singles rankings this week :crying2:

Look at her quality points :eek: :sad:

That's what happens when you throw away GS matches :o
Bepa will battle Nastya for the #16 seed at Us Open :boxing: :sad:

pav
Aug 1st, 2005, 08:11 PM
I see We have a new title for Miss Innocent :tape:


By Kim Phelan
Sun Staff
Originally published August 1, 2005
When tennis star and Wimbledon runner-up Andy Roddick saw the hosts of ESPN's Pardon the Interruption criticizing the U.S. Tennis Association's new marketing campaign for the U.S. Open Series on July 19, he was delighted. So delighted, in fact, that he went on the show the next day to explain why the series really is "Summer's Hottest Reality Series."

"I think it's just [kind of an] easy promotional tool to make people pay attention," Roddick said to hosts Jay Mariotti and Michael Wilbon, "which it did because you're talking about it."

But is any publicity good publicity? In its latest advertising campaign, the USTA has glommed on to the reality television wave, formatting television spots and print ads to resemble Survivor, American Idol and The Real World, among others. The television spots each highlight one of 17 players and their made-for-TV personality.

Serena Williams is "The Diva," and sister Venus is "The Goddess." Veteran Andre Agassi is "The Legend," and Roddick is known as "Rocket Man." With nicknames like "Mr. Unpredictable" (Marat Safin) and "The Drama Queen" (Vera Zvonareva), not all of it is positive, but that is exactly what the USTA and its marketing consultant firm, Arnold Worldwide, were striving for.

Epigone
Aug 2nd, 2005, 12:43 AM
Serena Williams is "The Diva," and sister Venus is "The Goddess." Veteran Andre Agassi is "The Legend," and Roddick is known as "Rocket Man." With nicknames like "Mr. Unpredictable" (Marat Safin) and "The Drama Queen" (Vera Zvonareva), not all of it is positive, but that is exactly what the USTA and its marketing consultant firm, Arnold Worldwide, were striving for.I was wondering why Bepa hadn't been mentioned in that campaign, but I'm :) now that she has been acknowledged.

The name is quite fitting :o

tenn_ace
Aug 2nd, 2005, 02:29 AM
Interesting interview with Lena L. and Vera Z. (especially their response to Sharapova question)...



Встреча для Вас. Вера Звонарева и Елена Лиховцева: Не спекулируйте на имени Шараповой!

Михаил Быков
http://www.sovsport.ru/texthit.asp?textid=194817&pkey1=0000200002&pkey0=


ТЕННИС

В американском Стэнфорде завершился женский турнир с призовым фондом 585 тысяч долларов. В парном разряде до финала дошел российский дуэт Вера Звонарева – Елена Лиховцева. С девушками побеседовал корреспондент «СС».

На корт в Стэнфорде идешь по тенистой аллее, на которой установлены плакаты с изображением великих теннисисток. Билли Джин Кинг, Навратилова, Граф, Хингис… Последняя в этом почетном списке – Мария Шарапова. Пустячок, а приятно, что русскую теннисистку причислили к «лику святых».

Жаль, Маша не приехала в Стэнфорд и не примет участия в турнире в Сан-Диего, который пройдет на этой неделе. Зато я стал свидетелем слаженной и красивой игры русского дуэта Вера Звонарева – Елена Лиховцева. Остановить наших девушек смогли только в финале.

– Почему вы в паре играете лучше, чем в одиночном разряде?

Вера Звонарева: Многое от турнира зависит. Где-то я в одиночке лучше сыграю, где-то в паре. Хотя мы с Аленой в обоих разрядах стоим в двадцатке сильнейших.

Елена Лиховцева: Пару используем для поддержания физической формы. И результат стоит на втором месте. Сыграем нормально – значит, хорошо. Одиночка – совсем другое. Там каждый сам за себя.

В.З.: Да, в одиночке совсем другой настрой. Тут побеждать гораздо престижнее.

Е.Л.: Вера, но в Стэнфорде ты проиграла не какой-нибудь тысячной ракетке, а сильной американке Меганн Шонесси.

НА ЗАРПЛАТУ НЕ ЖАЛУЕМСЯ!

– Следующий ваш турнир будет в Сан-Диего, где в третьем круге встретитесь между собой. Кто выиграет?

Е.Л.: Ну, до третьего круга нужно еще дойти.

В.З.: Если станем задумываться над тем, что случится на следующем турнире, нам будет очень сложно. Надо жить сегодняшним днем.

Е.Л.: Кстати, мы между собой уже играли в этом году. (10 апреля на турнире в Тире (США) в 1/16 финала выиграла Звонарева – 6:4, 6:4. – Прим. ред.). Мы выходим и боремся до конца, потом пожимаем руки друг другу и остаемся друзьями. Битва на корте – это игра, а вне спорта у нас совсем другие отношения.

– Между вами – да. Но вот ходят слухи, что русские теннисистки не любят Шарапову…

Е.Л.: (Запальчиво.) Дайте мне фамилию того человека, который вам это сказал! Вы в прессе на этом спекулируете, а потом появляются ненужные проблемы! С Машей Шараповой у Веры, например, вообще прекрасные отношения.

В.З.: Да, я с ней пару играла и тренируюсь иногда. У нас отличное взаимопонимание.

Е.Л.: Так и напишите: все о’кей!

– Женский теннис может стать таким же богатым, как НХЛ или НБА? Может ли девушка заработать ракеткой $4–6 млн. в год?

Е.Л.: А мы на зарплату не жалуемся. Но все же это не к нам вопрос, а к организаторам турниров.

В.З.: Я считаю, что женский теннис сейчас на очень высоком уровне. Раньше он был менее популярным, поэтому и зарплаты были ниже. А теперь приезжаешь на турниры и нельзя предположить, кто как сыграет.

– Если бы у вас была возможность изменить одно правило в теннисе, что бы вы изменили?

В.З.: Надо убрать всех судей! (Смеется.)

Е.Л.: А я бы отменила две подачи. Вот дается тебе одна – ее и используй.

ЛИХОВЦЕВА: ТРАВУ НЕ ОТМЕНЯЙТЕ!

– У Шараповой кроссовки стоят 900 долларов. А у вас?

Е.Л.: Мы не знаем. Нам их бесплатно дают. Даже примерно сказать не можем.

– Вы много летаете по миру. Устаете?

Е.Л.: Ужасно.

В.З.: Вот в прошлом году мы играли Кубок федерации…

Е.Л.: А потом полетели на Олимпиаду в Афины.

В.З.: Кубок федерации закончили очень поздно, и отдыха перед новым сезоном практически не было. Сейчас середина сезона, но все так устали! Теннис изматывает уже тем, что каждую неделю надо с места на место переезжать.

Е.Л.: Я вот в Азию не поеду после Открытого чемпионата США, потому что не хочу больше летать. Устала.

В.З.: Проблемы бывают не только с длинными расстояниями и акклиматизацией. Вот, например, летишь на турнир, а багаж куда-то исчезает. Его украли или сумки улетели другим рейсом. Приходится бегать по всем знакомым и собирать, у кого что есть. Хорошо, что с ракетками такого не случается – мы их с собой в самолет берем, как самую ценную вещь.

Е.Л.: Да, курьезов в нашей работе хватает. Я вот считала, что еду на турнир в Сан-Диего. Уже планирую выезжать, смотрю в календарь, а там Стэнфорд. Та же Калифорния, но север. Пришлось менять маршрут.

– Теперь я понимаю, почему вы, Елена, не были заявлены на одиночный турнир. Кстати, на каком покрытии предпочитаете играть?

В.З.: Мне без разницы. Главное – привыкнуть. Если получается, то грунт очень нравится. А во время Уимблдона я и на траве прекрасно себя чувствовала. К тому же турниров на траве у нас всего четыре в сезоне, два из них – в одну неделю. Траву, кстати, могут отменить. Не хотелось бы. Теннис от этого потеряет.

Е.Л.: Для меня наиболее оптимальные – жесткие корты. Траву отменять не надо – жалко.

ЗВОНАРЕВУ ПРИВЛЕКАЕТ ИГРА ФЕДЕРЕРА

– Как будете готовиться к Открытому чемпионату США?

Е.Л.: Сначала все турниры в Америке: тот самый Сан-Диего, потом Лос-Анджелес, Торонто, Нью-Хейвен, а потом и Нью-Йорк. Все зависит от того, как мы будем играть. Если хорошо, то какой-нибудь из этих турниров пропустим. Если не очень, сыграем во всех.

– Вы следите за мужским теннисом? За кого болеете?

Е.Л.: За всех наших ребят.

В.З.: Я тоже. А еще мне интересно смотреть за Федерером. Вообще в мужском теннисе бывают потрясающие матчи. Помню, Роддик с кем-то играл, счет был чуть ли не 19:17 в пятом сете (имеется в виду матч 1/2 финала Открытого чемпионата Австралии 2003 года, где Роддик в пятом сете выиграл у марокканца Юнеса Эль-Айнауи 21:19. – Прим. ред.).

– Кого считаете лучшей теннисисткой всех времен?

Е.Л.: Мартину Навратилову… Да и Штеффи Граф, и Монику Селеш... Из этих имен нельзя выбрать одно. Хотя… пожалуй, Билли Джин Кинг. Она была зачинателем в женском теннисе.

– А у мужчин?

В.З.: Мне нравится, как Агасси играет.

Е.Л.: Согласна.

– Как выбираете партнеров для игры в дубле или миксте?

Е.Л.: Кто первый подпишется! Делаю заявку, а потом смотрю, кто согласен.

В.З.: Правда, в Стэнфорде мы сразу договорились, что будем играть вместе.

pav
Aug 2nd, 2005, 07:13 AM
Thanks for the interview, They both got Their backs up on the Maria subject(specially Lena)

Foot's Fingers
Aug 2nd, 2005, 10:17 AM
Nice interview)))

andrewbroad
Aug 2nd, 2005, 10:49 PM
I barely understand a letter of Russian, but that doesn't stop me pasting Cyrillic text into AltaVista BabelFish (http://babelfish.altavista.com/):

– Между вами – да. Но вот ходят слухи, что русские теннисистки не любят Шарапову…

Е.Л.: (Запальчиво.) Дайте мне фамилию того человека, который вам это сказал! Вы в прессе на этом спекулируете, а потом появляются ненужные проблемы! С Машей Шараповой у Веры, например, вообще прекрасные отношения.

В.З.: Да, я с ней пару играла и тренируюсь иногда. У нас отличное взаимопонимание.

Е.Л.: Так и напишите: все о’кей!

- between you - yes. But rumors here walk, that the Russian tennis players do not love Sharapovu...

E.L.: (passionately.) Give to me the surname of that person, who to you this said,! You in the press on this speculate, and then appear unnecessary problems! With Masha sharapovoy in faith, for example, generally excellent relations.

V.Z.: Yes, 4 with it pair it played and I am trained sometimes. We have outstanding mutual understanding.

E.L.: So write: all of o'key!

N.B. The Russian word for "faith" is "Bepa".

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
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http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/)

Epigone
Aug 3rd, 2005, 04:46 AM
Why must every interview with Russian players include a question about Maria? :yawn:

Besides, Bepa said in a previous interview that she didn't think that Yuri was laughing at her when she fell over at the Tour Championships :shrug:, so why would she say anything negative about Maria?

Epigone
Aug 3rd, 2005, 07:34 AM
Grandstand (from 10.00hrs)
1. Raymond vs. Karatantcheva
2. Hantuchova vs. Sugiyama
3. Zvonareva vs. Washington
4. Raymond/Stosur vs. Bartoli/Pierce

Bepa plays Mashona Washington

Foot's Fingers
Aug 3rd, 2005, 10:37 AM
I agree with Epigone, this questions abt Maria too boring.
As i rememebr Vera/Masha have played in China last year (3seeded lost in first rnd) and in Memphis (R-UP ?)

_LuCaS_
Aug 3rd, 2005, 10:55 AM
Grandstand (from 10.00hrs)
1. Raymond vs. Karatantcheva
2. Hantuchova vs. Sugiyama
3. Zvonareva vs. Washington
4. Raymond/Stosur vs. Bartoli/Pierce

Bepa plays Mashona Washington
Good luck :bounce:

Epigone
Aug 3rd, 2005, 03:45 PM
Bepa has signed up to play the Tier III Guangzhou (http://www.wtatour.com/tournaments/profiles/guangzhou.asp)

Tournament website (http://www.gzopen.com.cn/)

Bepa 爱中国 :D

goldenlox
Aug 3rd, 2005, 04:04 PM
It's time for Vera to start winning.

Epigone
Aug 3rd, 2005, 10:49 PM
Bepa 4-6 :crying2:

She was broken in the 7th game (despite having GPx2) and in the 9th game (losing 4 straight points after being up 40-15 :banghead: )

Also, the scoreboard sux :fiery:

_LuCaS_
Aug 3rd, 2005, 10:51 PM
Oh dear,
COME ON BEPA !!!

Epigone
Aug 3rd, 2005, 11:25 PM
Bepa took the 2nd set 6-4 (she broke to 0 in the final game) :yeah:

She led 2-0 *30-0 at the start of the set, but threw the lead away :o

She needs a good start to the 3rd :)

Epigone
Aug 4th, 2005, 12:03 AM
Mashona Washington d. Bepa 6-4 4-6 6-4 :help: :sobbing:

Bepa held BP at 3-2 and 4-3 in the 3rd, then was broken at 4-4, then had 30-0* on Washington's serve at 4-5.

Something weird is going on in her head :sad:

ys
Aug 4th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Carrington must go.

BUBI
Aug 4th, 2005, 06:37 AM
Oh sh*t:banghead:
:crying2:

Epigone
Aug 4th, 2005, 06:53 AM
From wtatour.com (http://www.wtatour.com/newsroom/stories/NewsArticle_7715_rx.asp)
No.8 seed Vera Zvonareva was another upset victim, losing 64 46 64 in over two hours to 55th-ranked Mashona Washington. The big serving American blasted seven aces and gained the crucial break of serve in the third set en route to her first Top 20 victory of the season. After making it all the way to the Top 10 in 2004, Zvonareva continues to struggle in 2005, losing prior to the quarterfinals in 12 of 16 events played, including here in San Diego. Despite successfully defending her Memphis title and reaching her second consecutive semifinal at Rome, the 20-year-old Russian has now notched seven opening round losses this season, and has not won consecutive matches since May at Roland Garros, where she lost in the third round.

pav
Aug 4th, 2005, 08:20 AM
From wtatour.com (http://www.wtatour.com/newsroom/stories/NewsArticle_7715_rx.asp)

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goldenlox
Aug 4th, 2005, 02:14 PM
Vera is having a year to forget. The worst part is that she was in the top 10.
She's not going to have Tier I byes anymore, and might be playing qualies next year.

Epigone
Aug 4th, 2005, 05:14 PM
Grandstand (from 10.00hrs)
1. Likhovtseva vs. Chakvetadze
2. Peng vs. Safina
3. Morigami vs. Mirza
4. Dementieva/Golovin vs. Likhovtseva/Zvonareva

Take this title!!! :bowdown:

Epigone
Aug 4th, 2005, 07:08 PM
Sesil gave Mashona a 6-1 6-2 beatdown today

What does that say about Bepa's performance yesterday? :o

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 4th, 2005, 07:26 PM
i bet Blake Lex walked out on her again :rolleyes:

Vera's confidence right now is zilch and falling (if thats possible)

time to regroup......

goldenlox
Aug 4th, 2005, 07:34 PM
Vera, Zhenya, Dinara, Lena L. - there's a lot of poor results this year.
It's hard to win on the tour. It's very competitive.

Epigone
Aug 4th, 2005, 08:02 PM
i bet Blake Lex walked out on her again :rolleyes:He wants her to focus on the match, and not on him. When she played Benesova in Charleston, she was looking for him in the stands, rather than focusing on Benesova :help:

Besides, she kicked him out of the stands after the first three games in Berlin, so it's not as though he always has a choice :o

Vera's confidence right now is zilch and falling (if thats possible)

time to regroup......I think it's probably a question of focus. Bepa had a number of chances to go up a break against Mashona, but blew them. She has also blown match points against Benesova and Shaughnessy this year. Maybe she doesn't doesn't have the confidence to go for the big shots when she needs them :shrug:

Epigone
Aug 4th, 2005, 10:43 PM
Bepa and Lena just bagelled Lena and Tatiana in the 1st set :drive:

Epigone
Aug 4th, 2005, 11:39 PM
Bepa/Lena won 6-0 7-6(5) :bigclap: :dance: :yippee: :woohoo:

They were broken while serving for the match @ 5-4 :help:, and they really should have closed it out earlier than that. Oh, they also blew a MP @ 6-5 :crying2:

Epigone
Aug 5th, 2005, 04:45 AM
Friday, August 5, 2005
Stadium (from 10.00hrs)
1. Karatantcheva vs. Sugiyama
2. Schnyder vs. Pierce (NB 12.00hrs)
3. Chakvetadze vs. Morigami
4. Bartoli/Pierce vs. Hantuchova/Sugiyama
5. Peng vs. Clijsters (NB 19.00hrs)
6. Lee/Peng vs. Likhovtseva/Zvonareva

Bepa and Lena defeated Lee/Peng 6-2 7-5 in Rome this year

rrfnpump
Aug 5th, 2005, 12:23 PM
I just came back from a seminar week and heard about Vera's pathetic loss

I think we just have to wait. Sugiyama just came out of her slump after a long long time.
What I find really annoying that the losses are competetive scorelines, not a complete beatdown!!

I am hoping for a good doubles performance. I want Vera to be at the YEC

Epigone
Aug 5th, 2005, 01:49 PM
I think we just have to wait. Sugiyama just came out of her slump after a long long time.
What I find really annoying that the losses are competetive scorelines, not a complete beatdown!!It seems like she is losing focus near the end of matches. She is really wasting a lot of chances to take the lead in tight matches :sad:

I am hoping for a good doubles performance. I want Vera to be at the YECI'm planning on making a thread in her forum to track the Race to the YEC.

If they make the final this week, I think they can move up to #3.

rrfnpump
Aug 5th, 2005, 02:12 PM
I'm planning on making a thread in her forum to track the Race to the YEC.

If they make the final this week, I think they can move up to #3.

That would be great!! So we could be alwys informed about Vera/Lena's chances. I think they have a good chance to make it as the teams ranked in front of them hardly play together last months.....

andrewbroad
Aug 5th, 2005, 11:24 PM
She's not going to have Tier I byes anymore,

On Bepa's current form, it should help her to start against someone who's not had the benefit of a first-round win. Byes can be a curse in disguise to a slumping player, robbing her of match-play.

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Epigone
Aug 6th, 2005, 06:02 AM
Bepa/Lena def. Lee/Peng 6-3 4-6 6-0 :dance: :yippee: :bigclap: :woohoo:

They face (3) Martinez/Ruano Pascual in the SF

Epigone
Aug 6th, 2005, 06:08 AM
Saturday, August 6, 2005
Stadium (from 13.00hrs)
1. Peng vs. Pierce
2. Martinez/Ruano Pascual vs. Likhovtseva/Zvonareva
3. Morigami vs. Sugiyama (NB 19.00hrs)
4. Black/Stubbs vs. Hantuchova/Sugiyama (after suitable rest)

rrfnpump
Aug 6th, 2005, 06:11 AM
Yes
good win against a dangerous doubles pair :D
They have a good chance now vs Martinez/Ruano ;)

goldenlox
Aug 6th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Vera has lost 3 in a row and hasn't been past the second round since RG.
But she's doing well in doubles.

Epigone
Aug 6th, 2005, 10:22 PM
Something bad happened in the doubles match.

There was a long pause at Bepa/Lena *3-1, then a point was played, and then the match ended.

Bepa and Lena retired for some reason :sobbing:

Epigone
Aug 6th, 2005, 11:33 PM
Bepa's section of the Los Angeles draw
Asagoe (11)
Zheng
Linetskaya
Q
Q
Domachowska
Bye
Zvonareva (7)

The other seeds in her section of the draw are Maria Sharapova (1) and Anna Chakvetadze (16).

If she can't win this section, then :scratch:. Still, I'm :confused: about who was injured in the doubles match, so hopefully Bepa will be playing.

Epigone
Aug 7th, 2005, 12:15 AM
Mystery solved (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=5914205) :sad:

Bepa has an ankle injury :sobbing:

I hope she recovers in time for L.A.

I can't believe this is happening :crying2:

rrfnpump
Aug 7th, 2005, 07:08 AM
Oh no :sobbing:
this is not fair :sad:

Either it is a bad injury because they retired or she just felt something and didnt want play any more. I hope it is the second case
However, maybe a infury time-out will help her ecover and regroup!

Get well soon, Vera :hug:

pav
Aug 7th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Poor Bepa! came in late and was a shock,nearly took away My appetite. Hope it is one of those that is unwalkable for a while then goes as quick as it happened. Not the other sort that takes weeks. Always on hilly shit, I think I'm a self taught expert on ankle tweaking,but don't know diddly squat really.

Come right soon Bepa http://smileys.******************/cat/36/36_3_12.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ) http://smileys.******************/cat/36/36_1_22.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ)

From the LATimes Zvonareva and Morigami told tour officials that the injuries they suffered Saturday would prevent them from playing at the Home Depot Center:sad:

Epigone
Aug 7th, 2005, 10:33 AM
Spaniards Advance to Doubles Final Spain’s Conchita Martinez and Virginia Ruano Pascual advanced to the 2005 Acura Classic doubles final when Russia’s Vera Zvonareva suffered a left ankle strain. Martinez and Ruano-Pascual advance to Sunday’s doubles final where they will meet Daniela Hantuchova / Ai Sugiyama.

Zvonareva, playing with fellow Russian Elena Likhovtseva, held serve to open the match Saturday afternoon on Stadium Court.

With a 1-0 lead, Zvonareva and Likhovtseva broke Ruano Pascual to increase their lead to 2-0.

After each team held serve, Zvonareva served at 3-1, but on the first point, twisted her left ankle and fell to the court in pain.

Zvonareva retired from the match with an ankle strain after being checked by the WTA trainer at courtside.link (http://www.acuraclassic.com/PressBox/Summaries/conchita2_lik2.htm)

Epigone
Aug 7th, 2005, 10:45 AM
From the LATimes Zvonareva and Morigami told tour officials that the injuries they suffered Saturday would prevent them from playing at the Home Depot Center:sad:No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bigcry:

Points :wavey:

Hopefully she will be able to play Toronto :)

From that recent interview:– Как будете готовиться к Открытому чемпионату США?
Е.Л.: Сначала все турниры в Америке: тот самый Сан-Диего, потом Лос-Анджелес, Торонто, Нью-Хейвен, а потом и Нью-Йорк. Все зависит от того, как мы будем играть. Если хорошо, то какой-нибудь из этих турниров пропустим. Если не очень, сыграем во всех.They were open to playing San Diego, Los Angeles, Toronto, New Haven, and the US Open. If they played well, they might drop one tournament, but if they didn't play well, they would play them all.

I guess that that means that Lena might skip doubles next week, and try to play doubles in New Haven instead :shrug:

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 7th, 2005, 02:07 PM
ankle injuries :bigcry: :( :(
hope its not too serious.

tobi
Aug 7th, 2005, 02:12 PM
Vera :sad: :sobbing:,hope nothing serious,get well soon my baby ;)

_LuCaS_
Aug 7th, 2005, 05:20 PM
:sad:
I wish you a fast recovery girl :hug:

goldenlox
Aug 8th, 2005, 02:15 PM
I hope it's nothing serious. An ankle injury needs rest.
Vera should take her time. Watch some tv,

pav
Aug 8th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Hope She dosen't watch 'Deadwood' She knows enough naughty words already!

goldenlox
Aug 9th, 2005, 03:11 PM
Rest up and get healthy Vera http://smileys.******************/cat/15/15_4_100.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001)
You have a big birthday coming. http://smileys.******************/cat/4/4_8_4v.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ) 21

Epigone
Aug 11th, 2005, 09:57 AM
An article (http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=13569&bannerregion=) on Bepa's racquet.

Maybe she'll do some promo work at the U.S. Open :)

Epigone
Aug 11th, 2005, 01:22 PM
Posted by Andrew.. in the GM forum
The Pilot Pen Tennis tournament will be the next stop for former top 10 women’s player Vera Zvonareva.

Zvonareva, who spent five weeks ranked No. 10 earlier this year and peaked at No. 9 in the WTA rankings last year at this time, has been out of action since injuring her ankle in a doubles match at the Acura Classic in San Diego earlier this month.

Her agent John Tobias told the Register on Wednesday that Zvonareva would be pulling out of next week’s Rogers Cup in Toronto and would enter the Pilot Pen.

"I don’t know if it is official yet, but when I spoke to her she said she is definitely playing in New Haven," Tobias said.

It will be her second appearance in New Haven. Zvonareva reached the second round in 2003.

Zvonareva is currently ranked 17th in singles and ninth in doubles. She won her third career title at Memphis, Tenn., in February and reached the semifinals at Rome in May. Her best showing in a Grand Slam singles event in 2005 was a third-round appearance at the French Open. Zvonareva won her first Grand Slam title in 2004, teaming with Bob Bryan to win the mixed doubles at the U.S. Open.

Since she will enter the Pilot Pen after the direct acceptance deadline, Zvonareva will move to No. 2 on the Pilot Pen’s "next-in" list behind Lindsay Davenport. If two main draw players pull out of the Pilot Pen, Davenport and Zvonareva would move into the main draw. If that doesn’t happen, Zvonareva would be a strong candidate to receive a wild card into the main draw.She'll be missing out on Tier I points :sad:, but it's essential that she is 100% fit before she returns. I don't want her doing more damage.

pav
Aug 11th, 2005, 07:05 PM
An article (http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=13569&bannerregion=) on Bepa's racquet.

Maybe she'll do some promo work at the U.S. Open :)

In the article it says the racquet frame regains its shape faster after impact,Who more qualified to test this than the delightful Bepa?:tape:

pav
Aug 13th, 2005, 08:41 PM
:sad: from the New Haven Register in an article about Kuzzy-

One player Worcester will not have to concern herself with is No. 17 Vera Zvonareva.

Zvonareva’s agent John Tobias told the Register on Wednesday that Zvonareva would play in New Haven.

Tobias reiterated Zvonareva’s intentions when he was contacted by Worcester on Thursday. Zvonareva went as far as to reserve a hotel room in New Haven. However, on Friday morning the WTA informed Worcester that Zvonareva’s ankle injury — suffered in a doubles match in San Diego earlier this month — would not be healed in time for the start of the Pilot Pen.

Epigone
Aug 14th, 2005, 01:55 AM
Just great! :crying2:

However, I didn't expect her to play in New Haven because I don't think that there were enough wildcards left.

Lindsay, Sveta, Alicia, and Tati asked for late entry, and I think there were only three wildcards available. IMO, Bepa was always going to miss out :sad:

rrfnpump
Aug 14th, 2005, 06:30 AM
so no more preparation for US Open....
maybe thats good :)
Rainer schuettler once said that when he was in his deepest slum he didnt touch a racket for 3 weeks. after that he played better.

lets just hope for the return of Vera 2004 :D

Daniel
Aug 14th, 2005, 10:10 PM
So, Vera wont play until the USO, :( :fiery:

Epigone
Aug 15th, 2005, 01:58 AM
So, Vera wont play until the USO, :( :fiery:Maybe being rested will help her? :shrug:

However, I'm still more worried about seeing a meltdown, rather than seeing Bepa a little rusty :o

goldenlox
Aug 15th, 2005, 04:59 PM
Vera's diary -

Added on: 2005-07-23 05:29:21 by Vera Zvonareva I finally took the time to really read some of these comments and i just have realized tennis might not be my thing anymore after my terrible lose to Akiko I find myself not wanting to face the day....


Maybe a few weeks off is the best thing for now. :wavey:

rrfnpump
Aug 15th, 2005, 05:14 PM
Vera's diary -

Added on: 2005-07-23 05:29:21 by Vera Zvonareva I finally took the time to really read some of these comments and i just have realized tennis might not be my thing anymore after my terrible lose to Akiko I find myself not wanting to face the day....

Vera??? :cuckoo: :speakles:
what depressing words :hug:


Maybe a few weeks off is the best thing for now. :wavey:

I think so too!!!!

Epigone
Aug 15th, 2005, 05:43 PM
No way that was Bepa :cuckoo:

I wish I had some way of deleting the rubbish from the guest book, but all I can do at the moment is add news and change the scoreboard :sad:

Hopefully a better interface will be up and running soon :)

goldenlox
Aug 15th, 2005, 05:48 PM
It doesn't sound like Vera, face the day...:D
That sounds like Zhenya.

Right after that, Vera lost to Meghann 7-6 in the third.
Then one more loss, and the injury http://smileys.******************/cat/15/15_4_100.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001)

BUBI
Aug 15th, 2005, 08:37 PM
Maybe they should change the title of this thread;

Vera Zvonareva fall from the top thread !!!!

:hysteric:

Clai
Aug 16th, 2005, 11:31 AM
I hope Vera's ankle heals fast...

rrfnpump
Aug 16th, 2005, 01:07 PM
I hope Vera's ankle heals fast...

I hope so too :)
but she should not come back if she isnt 100% healthy!!

By the way, for whom are you cheering tonight, Clai?
Nicole or Anna :devil:

goldenlox
Aug 16th, 2005, 02:42 PM
Athletes are almost never 100% healthy. They always have aches and pains.
When doctors believe she can play, she'll be back.
This is a tough sport for tough people.

rrfnpump
Aug 16th, 2005, 02:49 PM
Athletes are almost never 100% healthy. They always have aches and pains.
When doctors believe she can play, she'll be back.
This is a tough sport for tough people.

Often players play although doctors say they shouldnt
Vera should not do that

Epigone
Aug 16th, 2005, 03:21 PM
Athletes are almost never 100% healthy. They always have aches and pains.
When doctors believe she can play, she'll be back.
This is a tough sport for tough people.I wouldn't be surprised if Bepa's mother looks her over, and if she does, then I think Bepa will only play when she is feeling fit.

pav
Aug 16th, 2005, 07:41 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Bepa's mother looks her over, and if she does, then I think Bepa will only play when she is feeling fit.
Perhaps Bepa's Mum should practice tough love on Her,and whack Her butt! (not too hard of course):tape:

andrewbroad
Aug 16th, 2005, 09:23 PM
By the way, for whom are you cheering tonight, Clai?
Nicole or Anna :devil:

This dilemma is almost too nice for human solution. I view Nicole as a potential fanee, but it's difficult to root against the adorable Anna: an ultra-cute blonde blue-eyed Russian girl, and a very emotional player who fights to the bitter end... I'm trying to think who that reminds me of! ;)

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goldenlox
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:12 PM
Added on: 2005-07-23 05:29:21 by Vera Zvonareva I finally took the time to really read some of these comments and i just have realized tennis might not be my thing anymore after my terrible lose to Akiko I find myself not wanting to face the day....

Vera, get out there and play like you can.

Epigone
Aug 19th, 2005, 03:44 PM
Added on: 2005-07-23 05:29:21 by Vera Zvonareva I finally took the time to really read some of these comments and i just have realized tennis might not be my thing anymore after my terrible lose to Akiko I find myself not wanting to face the day....

Vera, get out there and play like you can.Why post that fake diary entry again? :shrug:

If Bepa is healthy for the US Open, I'm quite optimistic about her prospects.

goldenlox
Aug 19th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Why post that fake diary entry again? :shrug:
Because I like that one, it's poetic.
Vera should learn from that one, and make good diary entries.

andrewbroad
Aug 19th, 2005, 09:23 PM
Because I like that one, it's poetic.
Vera should learn from that one, and make good diary entries.

I think the word you're looking for is "pathetic"! :lol:
Why should Bepa learn from someone who misrepresents her name to make fun of her in her own guestbook? :silly:

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goldenlox
Aug 20th, 2005, 03:26 PM
You can learn from anyone. I want Vera to be more descriptive in her diary entries.

rrfnpump
Aug 20th, 2005, 04:33 PM
You can learn from anyone. I want Vera to be more descriptive in her diary entries.

Vera should do her entries more often and more detailed. She should be more self-analyzing (criticizing) and not just saying "I am fine. Take care".
She should be in contact with her fans more regularly!

goldenlox
Aug 20th, 2005, 04:41 PM
That's ^ what I mean. If you're going to do it, do it well.
Just like tennis, try your best.

nick_chicane
Aug 20th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Has anyone heard anymore info on how Vera's recovery is going, her official site is useless, it never gets updated and it just looks to be getting neglected now!!

andrewbroad
Aug 20th, 2005, 07:48 PM
That's ^ what I mean. If you're going to do it, do it well.
Just like tennis, try your best.

Well, as Tracy Austin said during Bepa's Wimbledon 2005 doubles quarter-final (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/wimbledon2005.html), that's what makes tennis so interesting: there's so many facets to the game that you have to be good at. You have to be a great mover, you have to have good technique, you have to play the big points well. You have to be able to think on your feet out there; change the strategy if you need to in the middle of the match, and most importantly of all, you have to write a 500-word essay for your official website after every match that you play! (and not post it in the guestbook, where anyone can pretend to be anyone).

As for Bepa's ankle-injury, I can only imagine that she's saving herself for the US Open, as those injured players who are not ignored by the media are quoted as saying. I pray that she will have made a full recovery by then, as I would not want her to miss the US Open, or worse yet turn it into a career-threatening injury by trying to play again too soon.


Vera should do her entries more often and more detailed. She should be more self-analyzing (criticizing) and not just saying "I am fine. Take care".
She should be in contact with her fans more regularly!

On the other hand, you don't want to give away too much information that your opponents are going to read and use against you in your next match.

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/)

Epigone
Aug 20th, 2005, 08:17 PM
Maybe Bepa got sick of people using the guestbook as a forum, and jumped ship? :shrug: :rolls:

I'm trying to contact someone who might be able to shed some light on the news front. If that doesn't work, then I'll try to get someone to contact her agent about it.

nick_chicane
Aug 20th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Maybe Bepa got sick of people using the guestbook as a forum, and jumped ship? :shrug: :rolls:

I'm trying to contact someone who might be able to shed some light on the news front. If that doesn't work, then I'll try to get someone to contact her agent about it.

Well thats down to the moderators to clean up if they dont like it and clearly they dont care cause the site is so out of date!!

andrewbroad
Aug 21st, 2005, 12:53 AM
I have completed my extended Wimbledon report for Vera (adding her doubles quarter-final which I saw on TV) on my website:
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/wimbledon2005.html

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Epigone
Aug 21st, 2005, 04:49 AM
Well thats down to the moderators to clean up if they dont like it and clearly they dont care cause the site is so out of date!!The interface for the guestbook is stuffed, so only the admin can clean it up.

I would have deleted that rubbish the moment it was posted.

In terms of news updates, there seems to be no news :shrug:, but I'm trying to find out what's going on.

rrfnpump
Aug 21st, 2005, 06:15 AM
On the other hand, you don't want to give away too much information that your opponents are going to read and use against you in your next match.

Do you really think Top players check out other player's homepages to prepare for matches??

rrfnpump
Aug 21st, 2005, 06:15 AM
Maybe Bepa got sick of people using the guestbook as a forum, and jumped ship? :shrug: :rolls:

I'm trying to contact someone who might be able to shed some light on the news front. If that doesn't work, then I'll try to get someone to contact her agent about it.

:worship:

Epigone
Aug 21st, 2005, 07:22 AM
Do you really think Top players check out other player's homepages to prepare for matches??:haha:

Kim said on her website that she didn't want to play Toronto, but that didn't really help her opponents ;)

nick_chicane
Aug 21st, 2005, 01:53 PM
The interface for the guestbook is stuffed, so only the admin can clean it up.

I would have deleted that rubbish the moment it was posted.

In terms of news updates, there seems to be no news :shrug:, but I'm trying to find out what's going on.

Well that only proves the fact that they dont care about what happens to the site, theyve made no attempt to advertise the forum as its not ever used or clean anything up that people might not feel is right to be put in the guestbook!!

As for the rest of the site, the last update to the schedule was June!! The news section doesnt include her withdrawl from Toronto and frankly the diary just sounds like its been written by someone else, and not Vera!!

If they really cared theyd be trying to get intouch with her now and see if she would give a diary entry to how her recovery is going!! Im pretty sure she doesnt have an awful lot to do right now so she'd probably be happy to do it!!

I thought the site was pretty good at first but over time ive changed my opinion!! Vera deserves far better!!

andrewbroad
Aug 21st, 2005, 02:24 PM
Do you really think Top players check out other player's homepages to prepare for matches??

I'm quite sure that if a player were to post something like "I really hate it when players make me run for short-angled shots", those words would get back to their opponents pretty quickly. This is the Internet age, after all!

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andrewbroad
Aug 21st, 2005, 02:35 PM
Im pretty sure she doesnt have an awful lot to do right now

There's a lot more to the life of a professional tennis-player than most people realise. Treating injuries is a pretty significant chunk of time out of their life. And there are the media-commitments, and they need more sleep than ordinary human beings.

Maybe Bepa's ankle has already recovered sufficiently to be able to practise for the US Open - but if not, there are plenty of physical exercises she should be doing to stay in tip-top shape, e.g. swimming. So an injury-layoff is not necessarily a less busy time for her.

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Epigone
Aug 21st, 2005, 02:46 PM
Well that only proves the fact that they dont care about what happens to the site, theyve made no attempt to advertise the forum as its not ever used or clean anything up that people might not feel is right to be put in the guestbook!!How can the forum be advertised?
I remember a message asking people to move discussions to the forum, but it seems that it was ignored :shrug:

Like I've said, I think there's only one person who can fix the guestbook, so my hands are tied. Once the site is fixed, it will be a lot easier to update.

As for the rest of the site, the last update to the schedule was June!!True, and I've raised this issue.

The news section doesnt include her withdrawl from Toronto and frankly the diary just sounds like its been written by someone else, and not Vera!!The diary entries were made by Bepa, so you'll have to take it up with her if you're not satisfied with them.

If they really cared theyd be trying to get intouch with her now and see if she would give a diary entry to how her recovery is going!!It's not as easy as you think...

rrfnpump
Aug 21st, 2005, 03:54 PM
I'm quite sure that if a player were to post something like "I really hate it when players make me run for short-angled shots", those words would get back to their opponents pretty quickly. This is the Internet age, after all!

Of course you are right! But do we want to hear from Vera what opponents can do to beat her?
I want to her more detailed comments about her loss; what she thinks was the reason, what she learned from it and how it will go on now.
Also some personal stuff would be nice like what she likes about the city she is playing in or what are good friends of hers on the tour :)

nick_chicane
Aug 21st, 2005, 03:59 PM
There's a lot more to the life of a professional tennis-player than most people realise. Treating injuries is a pretty significant chunk of time out of their life. And there are the media-commitments, and they need more sleep than ordinary human beings.

Maybe Bepa's ankle has already recovered sufficiently to be able to practise for the US Open - but if not, there are plenty of physical exercises she should be doing to stay in tip-top shape, e.g. swimming. So an injury-layoff is not necessarily a less busy time for her.

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/)

Im aware that they can still do some exercise when their injured but im also pretty sure that their schedule will be alot less hectic than when their fully fit!! Im sure there are much more times that Vera's just sat around not doing much when shes injured than when shes fully fit!!

nick_chicane
Aug 21st, 2005, 04:03 PM
How can the forum be advertised?
I remember a message asking people to move discussions to the forum, but it seems that it was ignored :shrug:

That comment was made from just another user on the forum, it was not made by anyone actually connected to the site, generally people arent gonna listen to comments made by just another random jo!! If the site administrators had actually posted a message from themselves asking people to move the comments to the message board and had removed all the comments made in the guestbook, i think everyone would have taken notice to that!!

nick_chicane
Aug 21st, 2005, 04:05 PM
The diary entries were made by Bepa, so you'll have to take it up with her if you're not satisfied with them.


Well i think it would be nice of her to go into abit more detail with her diary entries, it seems the media find out more about her than her genuine fans!! Surely her fans should know most about her, right? I know players dont have that much time to spare, but like now for instance, she will have time to spare, theres no way she can possibly be busy 24 hours a day when shes injured!! Im pretty sure everyone of us would find it fascinating to read the life of a professional tennis player!!

Epigone
Aug 21st, 2005, 04:34 PM
Well i think it would be nice of her to go into abit more detail with her diary entries, it seems the media find out more about her than her genuine fans!!I agree, and I'll see what can be done about it :)

Hopefully the person I have contacted will be able to help sort out some of the problems.

nick_chicane
Aug 22nd, 2005, 06:11 AM
I agree, and I'll see what can be done about it :)

Hopefully the person I have contacted will be able to help sort out some of the problems.

Well i hope you have some success then!! It would be nice to hear some reports that go a little deeper than just preparing to play, hope your all well, love Vera!.......Whether its just a case that she doesnt know what to write, who knows!!

nick_chicane
Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:51 PM
I think the guys at Vera's official site should have a look at Maria Kirilenko's official site or Ana Ivanovic's!! Both very well presented and obviously alot of thought has been put into them!!

goldenlox
Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:52 PM
What's so good about Kirilenko's site? Maria totally ignores it.

nick_chicane
Aug 22nd, 2005, 06:46 PM
What's so good about Kirilenko's site? Maria totally ignores it.

Who says she ignores it?

goldenlox
Aug 22nd, 2005, 06:48 PM
I say it. And I'd rather have those - "hi guys, I suck"
diary entries, than no entries. Like Maria.

Epigone
Aug 22nd, 2005, 10:57 PM
I think the guys at Vera's official site should have a look at Maria Kirilenko's official site or Ana Ivanovic's!! Both very well presented and obviously alot of thought has been put into them!!All I'm going to say is that things like this are a lot easier to do when there are open lines of communication with the player involved.

andrewbroad
Aug 23rd, 2005, 01:14 AM
How can the forum be advertised?
Like this: http://www.verazvonareva.net/phpBB2/

what she likes about the city she is playing in
Tennis-courts, more tennis-courts, and the four walls of a hotel-room? ;)

Im sure there are much more times that Vera's just sat around not doing much when shes injured than when shes fully fit!!
Or perhaps her life is more than 100% busy, so that there's always something important for her to be getting on with. As a professional tennis-player you have to sacrifice a lot of things you want to do (or should be doing) simply because you don't have time.

And I'd rather have those - "hi guys, I suck"
diary entries, than no entries. Like Maria.
I looked for Мария Кириленко's official site, and found http://mariakirilenko.com/. It's an impressive site, but does not appear to have a diary-section written by Мария herself.

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nick_chicane
Aug 23rd, 2005, 06:02 AM
I say it. And I'd rather have those - "hi guys, I suck"
diary entries, than no entries. Like Maria.

Does anyone actually know if Maria speaks good english at all? If she doesnt, maybe thats why she doesnt post any messages!! I know she could get someone else to write a message for her but maybe she wants to be able to write one herself!!

nick_chicane
Aug 23rd, 2005, 06:03 AM
All I'm going to say is that things like this are a lot easier to do when there are open lines of communication with the player involved.

So its Vera's fault then? Isnt she interested in her fans?

Epigone
Aug 23rd, 2005, 06:17 AM
I know she could get someone else to write a message for her but maybe she wants to be able to write one herself!!I know that Masha used to write in the feedback section of her website, but I haven't looked at it in ages.

So its Vera's fault then? Isnt she interested in her fans?I'm not saying that, but I know that it took a long time to get the website ready because things were quiet on her end...

nick_chicane
Aug 23rd, 2005, 11:37 AM
I'm not saying that, but I know that it took a long time to get the website ready because things were quiet on her end...

So i guess thats saying that she isnt really interested in her fans!! If she wanted more contact with her fans, surely she would interact more with the site, right?

rrfnpump
Aug 23rd, 2005, 11:39 AM
So i guess thats saying that she isnt really interested in her fans!! If she wanted more contact with her fans, surely she would interact more with the site, right?

Its sad, but I think so, too
Vera doesnt seem to care much of her fans
it seems to me these diary entries of her were more pressure than pleasure
:sad:

Vera, Vera, how will you gain new fans :o

rrfnpump
Aug 23rd, 2005, 11:55 AM
also I think there should be a way to send autographs to fans who request them
thats very important I think

Epigone
Aug 23rd, 2005, 01:03 PM
So i guess thats saying that she isnt really interested in her fans!! If she wanted more contact with her fans, surely she would interact more with the site, right?I don't know her motives...

Maybe she's just shy? :shrug:

Let's just wait and see what I can find out :)

nick_chicane
Aug 23rd, 2005, 03:55 PM
I don't know her motives...

Maybe she's just shy? :shrug:

Let's just wait and see what I can find out :)

Well good luck, im a massive Vera fan and i hope it is just down to shyness cause if it turns out to be just plain rudeness, i feel it might turn me off her abit!! :sad:

goldenlox
Aug 23rd, 2005, 04:08 PM
I thought the players would like to speak to their fans.
But none of the Russian girls do it. None of them.

Epigone
Aug 23rd, 2005, 04:23 PM
I thought the players would like to speak to their fans.
But none of the Russian girls do it. None of them.Yes they do...:scratch:

With regards to Bepa - she is the way she is

goldenlox
Aug 23rd, 2005, 04:24 PM
If you mean Wtatour.ru, they rarely say anything.

Epigone
Aug 23rd, 2005, 04:27 PM
If you mean Wtatour.ru, they rarely say anything.Elena Vesnina posts there quite often :)

rrfnpump
Aug 23rd, 2005, 04:29 PM
I want to be able to read russian :sobbing:

nick_chicane
Aug 23rd, 2005, 06:42 PM
Some players just dont seem to realise how much they actually need fans!! Fans can sometimes be what separates a win from a loss!! If Vera is one of those people that thinks she doesnt need them then thats very disappointing!! Vera already turns alot of people against her because of her tantrums on court, she should be doing her best to hang onto the people that do still support her!!

goldenlox
Aug 23rd, 2005, 06:46 PM
No, Vera should be herself. Being a pro athlete is a very difficult job.
Frustrating and painful. She has to be herself.
Vera shouldn't worry about pleasing anyone but herself.

rrfnpump
Aug 23rd, 2005, 06:48 PM
As Epigone said : Vera is what she is
I agree!

But that doesnt mean that we cant criticize her! I love her how she is, but I would be very pleased if she would be more interested in her homepage and her fans. it would be a pleasant addition :)

It would be sad if she must push herself to make diary entrys; if that doesnt happen voluntarily!

nick_chicane
Aug 23rd, 2005, 07:36 PM
No, Vera should be herself. Being a pro athlete is a very difficult job.
Frustrating and painful. She has to be herself.
Vera shouldn't worry about pleasing anyone but herself.

I never said she had to change, i like the way she plays tennis, if she could control herself abit better she'd have an extremely good game there BUT she shouldnt push away her fans!! Every athlete needs fans!!

goldenlox
Aug 23rd, 2005, 07:43 PM
I don't feel Vera is pushing me away. She's having a tough year, but I watched part of her win over Sharapova in Montreal recently, and I still think Vera can be a top 5 player.
But it's very difficult, and she has to keep working. Working very hard.
Which I don't do. But the players have to, or they go backwards.

pav
Aug 23rd, 2005, 08:48 PM
No, Vera should be herself. Being a pro athlete is a very difficult job.
Frustrating and painful. She has to be herself.
Vera shouldn't worry about pleasing anyone but herself.

I agree with You,but She has been given a very hard Person to please,She seems to judge Herself very harshly http://smileys.******************/cat/23/23_30_110v.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ)

Epigone
Aug 24th, 2005, 06:38 AM
In Sydney this year, people weren't really cheering for Bepa, but they started cheering against her after she busted a racquet.

She doesn't really endear herself to the crowd :o

Epigone
Aug 24th, 2005, 08:23 AM
Bepa is seeded #19 for the US Open :sad:

I'm really anxious to see the draw :unsure: :p

rrfnpump
Aug 24th, 2005, 08:26 AM
I am also very excited
please no qualifier or youngster in 1st round :angel:

Clai
Aug 24th, 2005, 11:30 AM
I hope Vera gets a decent draw...

goldenlox
Aug 24th, 2005, 02:55 PM
Here's an interesting interview -

Exclusive interview with Vera Zvonareva.
Olga Ziegler / 11:16am, 01-05-2004
Exclusive interview for Inside-Tennis.Net with Vera Zvonareva, Warsaw 2004


Congratulations for winning deciding Fed Cup match. How did you feel after this win when other girls and captain were congraqtulating you?

-Well, it was a really good experience for me. I was really happy especially when I played a semifinal Fed Cup and I lost two matches and Russia lost but I was very happy when I won a match against Stosur. I think captain was congratulating because I showed really good game. I didn't have time to wait for this match. We were really excited because it was really good team this time: Myskina, Me, Svetlana and Likhovtseva. We were a really friendly team, we were supporting each other as we support here at tournaments, so I think it's really great

Q. Tarpischev's decision on not taking Elena Dementieva was controversial. Why do you think he didn't take her?

-I think you should ask him about this because I don't really know, but just said he he was talking to Elena and she was coming from the USA and she had injury before, so she didn't want to play many tournaments, it can get worse for her injury so that's why I think he didn't take her.

Q. What convinced you to start playing tennis?

-My mother introduced me to tennis at the age of 6. She was field hockey player, she was actually bronze medalist at the Olympics in 1980 in Moscow. But sure we love this game. We were watching Kafelnikov playing and also Chesnakov, they were first Russian players. She wanted me to do something beside the school and some sports. I was doing Figure Skating a little bit and swimming. I just loved tennis because it was a big group of kids in Russia and we were having fun.

Q. Who are your favourite Figure Skaters?

-Well, I think Butyrskaya, I think now Plushenko I really like watching him...and Yagudin

Q. Is competition between Russians pushing you up to train harder? Do you think you can be no. 1 Russian?

-I think it's not just only competition between Russians here, it's competition betweeneverybody. But of course when here, Russian tennis players, you support them, you want them win but when you go on court you want to win too so I think it makes a bit competition for us and maybe someday I can be no. 1 in Russia but it's really tough right now. I think everyone want to be like no. 1, not only in Russia but no. 1 in the world.

Q. Do you live with your parents or have your own place?

-I'm living with my parents: my mother and grandmother at home but I spend there only month and a half at home in Moscow because of the schedule. Actually I'm, practicing in Delray Beach, Florida when I have tournaments in the USA and I'm living with my coach over there, Julia and her daughter. She is practicing with us sometimes, she is 13. Maybe I will move somewhere in Moscow, I'm looking to move maybe some other place

Q. Do you enjoy travellinginvolved with being on Tour?

-Travelling is fun for me but I don't really like planes. I'm tired of planes and flying but it's fun right now because we have so many Russians and we have somebody to talk in Russianand we always have a good company around. It's really nice so it's not bad right now. Before it was a little bit, we were getting tired and it was bad because we didn't have anybody to talk in Russian and we got just one or two persons. Now it's good and fun.

Q. Do you sometimes read internet forums?

-Yeah I read. Sometimes I go on mine and I tried to write something couple of times but nobody answered (laughing). They just said me 'It's not true, it's not you', that's it.

Q. The most prestigous tournaments are Grand Slams. Which one do you like the most?

-It's really important to do well at the Grand Slam and all players are playing this. I really love French Open. I know Nastya, she hates this tournament, she says ' It's so bad, I don't like French Open' but for me it's really nice because I was there a couple of times. I never was to other Grand Slam, maybe US Open once at juniors but I was playing French Open. I really like courts over there and all the athmosphere and other Grand Slams maybe they aren't that friendly for me.

Q. According to the present schedule, doesn't a tennis player turn into a robot?

-If you're a person and you develop yourself not only like on court, you are doing some other stuff and you have some hobbies it' okay, you're a person and you have different stuff to do. But sometimes, I know someplayers, they are just into tennis and I think it's really bad for them because they just go on court, off court and everything they think about is tennis and they make it as a robot. I don't think it's really good because someday you will stop playing tennis and you need to do something and I think first you should be a person.

Q. Talking about person. What kind of person you are?

-(smiling) I don't know, I think it's better to ask some other girls what they think but i think I'm really different on court and off court. On court I',m playing and I can do some bad stuff (smiling) but off court I'm fine, I don't know...

Q. Do you think image is important for tenis player?

-Tennis player I think is the artist and I think it's important but sometimes people like too much the image and other stuff. I think it's important in some cases and in some cases you should relax and forget the bodies.

rrfnpump
Aug 24th, 2005, 03:25 PM
Here's an interesting interview -

Q. Do you sometimes read internet forums?

-Yeah I read. Sometimes I go on mine and I tried to write something couple of times but nobody answered (laughing). They just said me 'It's not true, it's not you', that's it.


is that the reason for her not posting much on her guestbook??
:lol:

thanks for the interview, gl :wavey: I havent known it

nick_chicane
Aug 24th, 2005, 04:57 PM
is that the reason for her not posting much on her guestbook??
:lol:

thanks for the interview, gl :wavey: I havent known it

That message was actually on the zvonareva.com forum, it was before my time but yeah, no one believed it was her which is understandable really, you get so many people pretending to be the person just to see how many people believe it!!

Epigone
Aug 24th, 2005, 05:08 PM
There is a thread about Bepa's posting habits here (http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=115460) :)

Epigone
Aug 24th, 2005, 05:20 PM
The US Open draw is out, and the #18 seed is Ana Ivanovic and Lena L is #19 :eek:

Bepa is out of the US Open!!!

:sobbing: :bigcry: :crying2: :sad:

rrfnpump
Aug 24th, 2005, 05:28 PM
I just realized it too

:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

That is sooooooooo unfair :sobbing:

Another two weeks withour her :(

But most important is - Vera, recover hell :hug:

goldenlox
Aug 24th, 2005, 05:54 PM
It's too bad, but Vera could use some time off. This whole year has been strange.
Maybe she'll come back strong.

pav
Aug 24th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Bepa ! get well soon,at least a rest is happening,wont be the same without Bepa,have to go, starting to cry,

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andrewbroad
Aug 24th, 2005, 10:53 PM
The worst part was reading through the draw, wondering when I was going to find Bepa's name, and getting increasingly worried as I got nearer and nearer the bottom! :scared:

The media (that I have read) haven't even had the decency to post an article about her withdrawal. :fiery:

I can only make the obvious assumption: that the left-ankle sprain she suffered in doubles at San Diego hasn't healed in time. I'm very sorry to realise it's so serious as to prevent her from attempting to defend her first Grand Slam title (the US Open 2004 mixed doubles), but better that than risking her long-term future.

I wish her a full recovery, and I also wish that when she does come back, she will forget that she was in a slump, and we will once again see the Bepa of whom John Lloyd said at the French Open 2003: "...to take that chance the way she did in the third and grab it, I mean that's the sign of a champion - a future champion - and she's got a very good mind - very good head on her shoulders".

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Harju.
Aug 25th, 2005, 01:53 AM
Awww Bepa is out from US Open :sobbing:. Get well soon.

Clai
Aug 25th, 2005, 11:04 AM
Get well soon Vera...

I hope the break from competitiion would re-energize her.

nick_chicane
Aug 26th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Yeah, it kinda spoils the US Open for me now!! I never have as much interest in Grand Slams when Vera's not there or out!! :sad:

andrewbroad
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:31 AM
I have finally got round to going back to the French Open 2003 and writing up Bepa's sensational victory over Venus Williams:
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/french_open2003.html (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/french_open2003.html)

I have also written up their rematch at Wimbledon 2003 - at least it's worth revisiting Bepa's superb passage of play from 0-2 to 3-2 in the second set:
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/wimbledon2003.html (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/wimbledon2003.html)

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goldenlox
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:18 PM
Vera won a Tier III this year. She's won almost $370,000 in prizemoney.
But we have such high expectations for Vera, that we are all disappointed.
Objectively, it's not a terrible year.
It's far from the YEC, though.

andrewbroad
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:22 PM
Not a terrible year, no. A terrible year is struggling on the ITF Women's Circuit with a ranking outside the top 300 (Jelena Dokic (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/dokic/) and Iroda Tulyaganova (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/tulya/)), or being injured and not being able to play at all! (Monica Seles (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/seles/)) :sad: :sad: :sad:

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rrfnpump
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Vera won a Tier III this year. She's won almost $370,000 in prizemoney.
But we have such high expectations for Vera, that we are all disappointed.
Objectively, it's not a terrible year.
It's far from the YEC, though.

I expected her to beat Washington, Benesova, Llagostera-Vives
these are really no high expectations
her losses against in-forms Razzano, Peschke and Morigami were ok, but she should have not lost them all in straight sets
I think it is a terrible year

goldenlox
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:37 PM
Vera has always had some bad matches. Last year she lost to Craybas in Miami.
There are not enough big wins this year.

rrfnpump
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:41 PM
Vera has always had some bad matches. Last year she lost to Craybas in Miami.
There are not enough big wins this year.

0 really big wins

good wins against Schiavone, Jankovic and Vaidisova
but no big wins

goldenlox
Aug 27th, 2005, 02:52 PM
That's been a problem for all the Russian players this year, except Sharapova.

Epigone
Aug 27th, 2005, 03:59 PM
That's been a problem for all the Russian players this year, except Sharapova.Nadia, Dinara, Zhenya, and Vera D. defeated Mauresmo this year, while Bepa is 0-7 against Amelie :help:

goldenlox
Aug 27th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Nadia, Dinara, Zhenya, and Vera D. - this group all have a problem getting big wins.

rrfnpump
Aug 27th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Mauresmo is such a case
I will never understand how she could be No1 :cuckoo:

She never wins against Clijsters, Henin, Williams', Davenport
(ok she had some good matches against them, but who doesnt)

She has a weak forehand, her backhand is vulnerable if you play flat and deep. A good serve and good movement. many mishits
she often gets thrashed in first set ( like against Sprem in Montreal 04 or against Medina in New Haven 05) and somehow (I really dont know how!!!!) pulls out these matches; her opponents make mistakes

I will never ever understand how Vera struggels so much against her and only won 2 sets in 7 meetings :rolleyes:

nick_chicane
Aug 28th, 2005, 07:53 PM
Nadia, Dinara, Zhenya, and Vera D. defeated Mauresmo this year, while Bepa is 0-7 against Amelie :help:

Every player has a bogey player that they can never beat, Mauresmo just happens to be Vera's!! Just cause Douchevina beat her doesnt suddenly mean that our Vera is worse than Douchevina!! Im sure Douchevina has a player that she can never beat and our Vera will beat her everytime!! Its just the case sometimes that you come across a player that, no matter how well you play, you never beat!!

Daniel
Aug 28th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Vera :bigcry: I havent found any article online about Vera, :fiery:

Vera, hope you are resting and come back stronger and a postive attitude :hug: :smooch:

Epigone
Aug 29th, 2005, 01:14 AM
Every player has a bogey player that they can never beat, Mauresmo just happens to be Vera's!! Just cause Douchevina beat her doesnt suddenly mean that our Vera is worse than Douchevina!! Im sure Douchevina has a player that she can never beat and our Vera will beat her everytime!! Its just the case sometimes that you come across a player that, no matter how well you play, you never beat!!She should have defeated Amelie in the Philadelphia final, but things got a little out of control :o.

As well as being 0-7 against Amelie, she is also 0-5 against Lindsay.

Bepa needs to win some more big matches :help:

pav
Aug 29th, 2005, 09:15 AM
Bepa Where are You?? :sad: Are You out there? http://smileys.******************/cat/36/36_1_4.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ)
Perhaps She's having a nice cup of tea

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Shoulderpova
Aug 29th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Come back soon Bepa :kiss: :hug: and stay strong :smooch:

nick_chicane
Aug 29th, 2005, 10:19 AM
She should have defeated Amelie in the Philadelphia final, but things got a little out of control :o.

As well as being 0-7 against Amelie, she is also 0-5 against Lindsay.

Bepa needs to win some more big matches :help:

Yeah, she should have won the Phili final, but its that same thing, the bogey player, its always in the back of your mind that youve never beaten them before, and to be honest, i'd rather Vera had a 0-7 record against Mauresmo and a 0-5 record against Davenport than a 0-7 record against Marissa Irvin and a 0-5 record against Cara Black, both well outside the top 100!!

Mauresmo and Davenport are both very good players, most players will struggle to beat them!!

nick_chicane
Aug 29th, 2005, 10:21 AM
Its the start of the US Open today and does anyone else feel down? I usually love the start to Grand Slams but today im left thinking, "who can i support for the 2 weeks to make it abit more interesting?" Im left with no answer, there really is no substitute for your favourite player, the tournament will still be great to watch but there will always be that little thing missing!! :sad:

rrfnpump
Aug 29th, 2005, 11:18 AM
Its the start of the US Open today and does anyone else feel down? I usually love the start to Grand Slams but today im left thinking, "who can i support for the 2 weeks to make it abit more interesting?" Im left with no answer, there really is no substitute for your favourite player, the tournament will still be great to watch but there will always be that little thing missing!! :sad:

You are so damn right
Nobody can substitute Vera, but I have some other faves to cheer for.
Hopefully they dont go out early :unsure:

Epigone
Aug 29th, 2005, 11:47 AM
Bepa is injured, and Katya Bondarenko royally screwed up in qualifying, so I'm :sobbing:

rrfnpump
Aug 29th, 2005, 01:09 PM
Bepa is injured, and Katya Bondarenko royally screwed up in qualifying, so I'm :sobbing:

:hug:
cheer for Lucie pls :angel: :D

goldenlox
Aug 29th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Rest up and get healthy Vera http://smileys.******************/cat/15/15_4_100.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001)
You have a big birthday coming. http://smileys.******************/cat/4/4_8_4v.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ)21

VeraNuVirgosFan
Aug 30th, 2005, 01:34 AM
Congratulations on reaching 8000 posts for Vera!

And get well soon!!

rrfnpump
Sep 5th, 2005, 08:42 AM
any news on Vera?? :confused:

Will she compete after USO or does the injury force her to withdraw from more tournaments?? :sad:

Epigone
Sep 5th, 2005, 12:08 PM
any news on Vera?? :confused:No news :sad:

Will she compete after USO or does the injury force her to withdraw from more tournaments?? :sad:She thought that she would be right for New Haven, but still wasn't ready for the US Open, so :shrug:

My bet is that she'll be back for Beijing, which starts on the 19th of September.

Foot's Fingers
Sep 5th, 2005, 12:13 PM
Get well Vera!!!

Missing you

nick_chicane
Sep 5th, 2005, 01:23 PM
Im kinda dreading seeing the rankings next monday!! I know that Vera's health is far more important than any ranking and she was right not to play the US Open if she isnt fit but its still gonna be pretty misserable viewing!! :sad: Im expecting her to be around 25th!! :eek:

rrfnpump
Sep 5th, 2005, 01:29 PM
Vera will be ranked #20 next monday (look at Eggys projected rankings ;))
so she is still is Top20 after the US summer

what does she have to defend after the USO
Philadelphia :unsure: and anything else???

nick_chicane
Sep 5th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Oh, well lets hope his projected rankings are right then cause that wouldnt be so bad!! I expected her to drop alot more than that!! :)

Epigone
Sep 5th, 2005, 03:46 PM
what does she have to defend after the USO
Philadelphia :unsure: and anything else???Besides Phildadelphia, she has SF points from Beijing and QF points from Moscow and Linz.

If Bepa has recovered fully, I think that the rest of the year should be quite interesting :D

rrfnpump
Sep 5th, 2005, 03:55 PM
I hope Vera wins a match at Filderstadt
is the comitted there?
I dont know yet if I will go

Epigone
Sep 5th, 2005, 05:03 PM
I hope Vera wins a match at Filderstadt
is the comitted there?
I dont know yet if I will goI think that she'll play all of the big indoor tournaments in Europe, so you should get a chance to see her if you decide to go :)

rrfnpump
Sep 5th, 2005, 05:22 PM
I would be only able to go at semifinals and finals day :(
so Vera needs to win some matches :angel:

Epigone
Sep 5th, 2005, 05:32 PM
I would be only able to go at semifinals and finals day :(
so Vera needs to win some matches :angel:Bepa and Lena should make at least the SF in doubles, so you should get to see her ;)

Of course, I expect her to get that far in singles as well :angel:

goldenlox
Sep 6th, 2005, 04:49 PM
счастливый день рождения! :worship: :D :bounce: :yippee: :music: :rocker2: :aparty: :banana: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/mandoura/celebration/hbcolors.gif

Epigone
Sep 6th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Happy Birthday to Bepa :yippee: :bounce: :dance:

She could have had a QF victory as a 21st birthday present, but instead she is sidelined :sobbing:

I wanna see her back soon :D

rrfnpump
Sep 6th, 2005, 07:21 PM
:aparty:
Happy birthday, dear Bepa

I wish you all the best for the next year of your life ;)

:bounce: :bounce:

daniela86
Sep 6th, 2005, 07:30 PM
My bet is that she'll be back for Beijing, which starts on the 19th of September.
I have the feeling that she'll be back before the indoor season too :D :) (me can't wait :bounce: :bounce: ) I don't know why though :p

I would be only able to go at semifinals and finals day :(
so Vera needs to win some matches :angel:
Omg, my dear partner you are sooooooooo lucky!! :eek: :aparty: :cool: :bounce: :p Filderstadt is the most interesting indoor tournament :yippee: :yippee: (excluding YEC:p of course) : almost all the top players play there coz of the Porsche :drool: so IMO, you'll see a lot of great tennis :drool: :cool: :bounce: Plus, as Epi said, Vera will surely play on Sathurday if it's not in single it's in dubz :p I can perfectly smell it! Cheer loud for her instead of us, okey? :D

Btw, HAVE THE BEST BIRTHDAY OF YOUR LIFE BEPA AND COME BACK STRONG AT BEIJING!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :kiss: WE LOVE YA! :aparty: :angel: :hug: :sport: :sport: :worship: :worship: :D

pav
Sep 6th, 2005, 07:48 PM
Happy Birthday to Bepa http://smileys.******************/cat/13/13_12_21.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ) , I have this vision of Bep having about three tries at blowing out the 21 candles http://smileys.******************/cat/301.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ) ,not being able to, and getting madder at each attempt :fiery: ,She then bursts into tears :sad: , floods the cake :eek: ,but at least the candles are out. This was just after several speakers complimenting Her on reaching the age of maturity :tape:

Been boring without Her
http://smileys.******************/cat/36/36_1_38.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYNZ)

slk45
Sep 7th, 2005, 06:50 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY,BEPA!!! :bdaycake: :smooch:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Now that you're 21, the next time you're in Memphis I'll buy you a :drink:. (But maybe we'd best wait until after you win your triple crown!!). :)

Get well soon, Vera, we miss you on the tour!

Foot's Fingers
Sep 7th, 2005, 07:12 AM
hAPPY bIRTHDAY MY LOVELY vERA!!!!

Good Luck and hope to see you back in action soon.

Shoulderpova
Sep 7th, 2005, 07:17 AM
hAPPY bIRTHDAY MY LOVELY vERA!!!!

Good Luck and hope to see you back in action soon.
Привет Женя :wavey: Уж начал думать куда ты подевался ;)
Рфззн ишкервфн Иузф :wavey:

nick_chicane
Sep 7th, 2005, 01:24 PM
Yep, happy birthday Vera, have a great day!! :)

Nice to see Vera's official site doesnt even make an acknowledgement that its her birthday!! What a great site it is!! :fiery:

rrfnpump
Sep 7th, 2005, 01:45 PM
Yep, happy birthday Vera, have a great day!! :)

Nice to see Vera's official site doesnt even make an acknowledgement that its her birthday!! What a great site it is!! :fiery:

yeah, I noticed that too
thats pretty bad for an official site :smash:
wonder when Vera will finally write sth in her guestbook :o
I mean, we all want to know how she is

goldenlox
Sep 7th, 2005, 03:07 PM
счастливый день рождения! :worship: :D :bounce: :yippee: :music: :rocker2: :aparty: :banana:

As I was watching Nadia-Maria, I was thinking about the Vera-Maria match in Montreal last summer.
I know Vera can play at that level again.

nick_chicane
Sep 7th, 2005, 03:33 PM
yeah, I noticed that too
thats pretty bad for an official site :smash:
wonder when Vera will finally write sth in her guestbook :o
I mean, we all want to know how she is

Im wondering if these people that run that site are even fans of Vera's!! That site has become so poor and out of date that its just become an insult to her!! She deserves much, much better!! :fiery:

Epigone
Sep 7th, 2005, 03:42 PM
That site has become so poor and out of date that its just become an insult to her!! She deserves much, much better!! :fiery:Sometimes it's hard to help those who won't help themselves...

nick_chicane
Sep 7th, 2005, 04:20 PM
Sometimes it's hard to help those who won't help themselves...

Yeah, but even if Vera wont talk to them that often, they could still keep her info up to date and mention stuff like the fact its her birthday!! Its a pretty important thing, i think it deserves a mention or maybe they dont even know when her birthday is!! :fiery:

rrfnpump
Sep 7th, 2005, 04:36 PM
Sometimes it's hard to help those who won't help themselves...

your efforts are appreciated here, Epi :hug:

goldenlox
Sep 7th, 2005, 05:20 PM
Vera played 3 majors in 2005. She lost to Vera D. in round 2 of the AO.
Lost to Pierce in round 3 at RG. Lost to Peschke in the 2nd round of Wimbledon.

rrfnpump
Sep 8th, 2005, 06:49 AM
Vera played 3 majors in 2005. She lost to Vera D. in round 2 of the AO.
Lost to Pierce in round 3 at RG. Lost to Peschke in the 2nd round of Wimbledon.

Pierce plays the best tennis of her career right now; her loss at FO was acceptable although she missed huge chances there
You can also lose to Douchevina and Peschke, they are very good and dangerous, but Vera should be able to beat them when she is on
The problem is she wasnt on whole year (except Memphis, Rome)

pav
Sep 8th, 2005, 08:25 AM
Had to go to town today, and on the way back, round a corner towards Me comes a little bright red convertible,I nearly went off the road when I read the licence plate it said 'Bepa' for a second I thought "could it be?' then I remembered , black Primera:sad:

Epigone
Sep 12th, 2005, 01:46 PM
Bepa has dropped to #20 in singles after being #18 before the US Open. All things considered, I think she is in a pretty good position.

In doubles, she has dropped from #9 to #10. Again, not bad at all.

Bepa and Lena are #6 in the doubles race, but they are less than 160 points from #4.

If she isn't rusty when she returns, then I expect that she'll achieve some good results :)

rrfnpump
Sep 12th, 2005, 01:51 PM
people an her webpage realized Vera's birthday :o

"Vera celebrates her 21st birthday on September 7th. We hope that she has a great day and continues to rest in preparation for her return to the court."

When will Vera return??? :hysteric:
are there any news on russian pages?

nick_chicane
Sep 12th, 2005, 05:38 PM
people an her webpage realized Vera's birthday :o

"Vera celebrates her 21st birthday on September 7th. We hope that she has a great day and continues to rest in preparation for her return to the court."

When will Vera return??? :hysteric:
are there any news on russian pages?

Unfortunately, that message arrived nearer to the 8th than the 7th!! :fiery:

They clearly hadnt remembered!!

Epigone
Sep 12th, 2005, 05:55 PM
Unfortunately, that message arrived nearer to the 8th than the 7th!! :fiery:

They clearly hadnt remembered!!You sure complain a lot :o

Knowing what I know, I can tell you that nobody forgot :)

pav
Sep 12th, 2005, 07:30 PM
Bepa's an adult
calm and composed
when a shot goes wrong
She'll just smile to Herself
and the matter will then be closed
after twenty one years
She has installed a calming voice
somewhere in the back of Her head
that says "No tears now
just raise one eyebrow
like Roger Federer instead."
but hold on a minute, is this the Bepa We love?
a Girl who meltdowns tantrums and tears can now just simply ignore?
no thats not Our Bepa,a player like that
just could be a bit of a bore!



On doubles I often read posts saying Lena should play doubles with (someone else) and they would be really good, and the same for Nastya, as if to say they were basically carrying Bepa,but looking at Their results without the Bepa,I think She might contribute a tiny bit to the effort after all!:)

Epigone
Sep 12th, 2005, 07:48 PM
On doubles I often read posts saying Lena should play doubles with (someone else) and they would be really good, and the same for Nastya, as if to say they were basically carrying Bepa,but looking at Their results without the Bepa,I think She might contribute a tiny bit to the effort after all!:)I thought that Bepa used to carry Nastya :o

I think that Bepa is a good doubles player, and that's why I'm happy that she is playing with a great doubles player like Lena. I'm sure that Bepa brings some tricks to the table :cool:

I loved when Bepa played with Nastya, but I was always afraid that one of them was going to leave the court with a partner-inflicted injury :tape:

andrewbroad
Sep 12th, 2005, 11:41 PM
I loved when Bepa played with Nastya, but I was always afraid that one of them was going to leave the court with a partner-inflicted injury :tape:

In the Wimbledon 2005 (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/wimbledon2005.html) doubles quarter-final, in the second set at 3-3 (15/15), Elena Likhovtseva hit a backhand into the back of Vera's neck - fortunately not hard enough to do her any harm. Elena looked embarrassed, but Vera laughed it off. "That's what you call miscommunication - Vera paid a heavy price! I'm laughing 'cause they're laughing" [Simon Reed].

But it would not have been a laughing-matter if Likhovtseva's shot had struck Vera hard in the temple of her head and killed her.

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/)

Epigone
Sep 13th, 2005, 02:28 AM
But it would not have been a laughing-matter if Likhovtseva's shot had struck Vera hard in the temple of her head and killed her.Yes...:unsure:

Anyway, I have some HUGE Bepa news, so check out her website in a couple of hours.

Epigone
Sep 13th, 2005, 06:15 AM
Today I received an email from my contact :tape:, and I have found out why Bepa has been struggling all year :sad:

You'll know the reason if you read her website, but I'll try to expand on it a little more.

Basically, she has been suffering from a viral infection all year, but it was only picked up in August. Before that, I believe she had some other viruses (remember the strep throat earlier in the year?).

Now, the email is a little unclear about how long she had been suffering from these other viruses, and that's why I didn't post about it in the notice on her site. These viruses are the reason that she has been suffering from chronic fatigue and "other complications". Again, I don't know what that means, so I didn't post it.

Now, I don't think that she would have recovered from this virus already, but I think that her ankle is fine. That's why I'm thinking that she might have missed the US Open because of the virus, and not because of her ankle (my speculation).

So, there you go. That's the reason for all of the heartbreak this year :bigcry:

Oh, and I think that people should see how she performs when she is healthy before calling for a new coach :p

nick_chicane
Sep 13th, 2005, 06:24 AM
You sure complain a lot :o

Knowing what I know, I can tell you that nobody forgot :)


I complain alot cause frankly the official site is very poor and Vera deserves better!!

Also, if they didnt forget, why was it pretty much the 8th before they even acknowledged it was her birthday? They didnt have time? Point proven!!

nick_chicane
Sep 13th, 2005, 06:30 AM
Today I received an email from my contact :tape:, and I have found out why Bepa has been struggling all year :sad:

You'll know the reason if you read her website, but I'll try to expand on it a little more.

Basically, she has been suffering from a viral infection all year, but it was only picked up in August. Before that, I believe she had some other viruses (remember the strep throat earlier in the year?).

Now, the email is a little unclear about how long she had been suffering from these other viruses, and that's why I didn't post about it in the notice on her site. These viruses are the reason that she has been suffering from chronic fatigue and "other complications". Again, I don't know what that means, so I didn't post it.

Now, I don't think that she would have recovered from this virus already, but I think that her ankle is fine. That's why I'm thinking that she might have missed the US Open because of the virus, and not because of her ankle (my speculation).

So, there you go. That's the reason for all of the heartbreak this year :bigcry:

Oh, and think that people should see how she performs when she is healthy before calling for a new coach :p

Without knowing all this, i think it was right that we all questioned whether Lex was actually doing a good job!! With this new infomation though, im sure we will all lay off Lex, for a while at least!! :lol:

rrfnpump
Sep 13th, 2005, 06:37 AM
Today I received an email from my contact :tape:, and I have found out why Bepa has been struggling all year :sad:

You'll know the reason if you read her website, but I'll try to expand on it a little more.

Basically, she has been suffering from a viral infection all year, but it was only picked up in August. Before that, I believe she had some other viruses (remember the strep throat earlier in the year?).

Now, the email is a little unclear about how long she had been suffering from these other viruses, and that's why I didn't post about it in the notice on her site. These viruses are the reason that she has been suffering from chronic fatigue and "other complications". Again, I don't know what that means, so I didn't post it.

Now, I don't think that she would have recovered from this virus already, but I think that her ankle is fine. That's why I'm thinking that she might have missed the US Open because of the virus, and not because of her ankle (my speculation).

So, there you go. That's the reason for all of the heartbreak this year :bigcry:

Oh, and think that people should see how she performs when she is healthy before calling for a new coach :p

:crying2: :sobbing: :crying2:

its very important for Vera to get rid of that viruses! She should not play until she is not 100% healed. Such viruses can get chronical and if that happens it may mean the end of her career!
Please Vera, take this serious and recover 100%. Your health is much more important than playing tennis!

Thanks for the news, Epi :hug:

Epigone
Sep 13th, 2005, 06:47 AM
I complain alot cause frankly the official site is crap and Vera deserves better!!I agree that it needs to get fixed.

Also, if they didnt forget, why was it pretty much the 8th before they even acknowledged it was her birthday? They didnt have time? Point proven!!Do you know how I know that nobody forgot? I posted the message, and I was fully aware that it was her birthday ;)

Like I've said before, the interface isn't so good, and it doesn't always work.

In terms of news updates, only things that have been verified can be posted because the interface doesn't allow news to be altered. It's annoying, but I can't do anything about it. Also, it can take some time to get replies to questions. For instance, I had to wait a few weeks to find out about Bepa's condition.

The website is a two-way street. Without information flowing from Bepa's side, it's hard to keep things up to date.

rrfnpump
Sep 13th, 2005, 06:54 AM
I agree that it needs to get fixed.

Do you know how I know that nobody forgot? I posted the message, and I was fully aware that it was her birthday ;)

Like I've said before, the interface isn't so good, and it doesn't always work.

In terms of news updates, only things that have been verified can be posted because the interface doesn't allow news to be altered. It's annoying, but I can't do anything about it. Also, it can take some time to get replies to questions. For instance, I had to wait a few weeks to find out about Bepa's condition.

The website is a two-way street. Without information flowing from Bepa's side, it's hard to keep things up to date.

Get her in Sydney :devil: ;)

I cannot go to Filderstadt :bigcry:
I have to work that weekend cause the firm I work for has an event on that weekend and I have to be there :crying2:

Harju.
Sep 13th, 2005, 07:07 AM
Get well soon Vera. Rebound back strongly and show the haters that you are not an ordinary :bigcry: girl. :p

pav
Sep 13th, 2005, 08:29 AM
Bepa :sad: Damn Virus seem to pounce on high performance athletes with heavy schedules. Hell I hope She dosen't come back too soon. A tough year for Our favourite Girl.

goldenlox
Sep 13th, 2005, 02:48 PM
A virus for the whole Year?

Epigone
Sep 13th, 2005, 03:04 PM
A virus for the whole Year?Yes :o

I don't understand it, since I thought it would have been picked up when she was sick earlier in the year :shrug:

pav
Sep 13th, 2005, 08:01 PM
Sad to see the lack of response to Epi's thread in GM, if the thread had been'Serena has a medium sized pimple on Her left buttcheek' by now there would have been about 106 responses, is Bepa that unpopular? not important to those of Us that do like Her I suppose :confused:
This could put some reason to the great start to some matches, then a sudden deterioration.

Epigone
Sep 14th, 2005, 01:40 AM
This could put some reason to the great start to some matches, then a sudden deterioration.Quite possibly :sad:

Also remember that Bepa sometimes starts out poorly, and then powers home to win. If she gets tired early, it means that she doesn't have as much energy to mount a fightback.

Foot's Fingers
Sep 14th, 2005, 07:53 AM
poor Vera :sad :bigcry:

Hope she will beat this virus

Epigone
Sep 14th, 2005, 02:17 PM
GL, to answer the question from your rep, I can tell you that this information came from a very good source ;)

This person also said to contact them if I have more questions, so I'll try to get an update at some point in the future :)

KV
Sep 14th, 2005, 02:39 PM
Today I received an email from my contact :tape:, and I have found out why Bepa has been struggling all year :sad:

You'll know the reason if you read her website, but I'll try to expand on it a little more.

Basically, she has been suffering from a viral infection all year, but it was only picked up in August. Before that, I believe she had some other viruses (remember the strep throat earlier in the year?).

Now, the email is a little unclear about how long she had been suffering from these other viruses, and that's why I didn't post about it in the notice on her site. These viruses are the reason that she has been suffering from chronic fatigue and "other complications". Again, I don't know what that means, so I didn't post it.

Now, I don't think that she would have recovered from this virus already, but I think that her ankle is fine. That's why I'm thinking that she might have missed the US Open because of the virus, and not because of her ankle (my speculation).

So, there you go. That's the reason for all of the heartbreak this year :bigcry:

Oh, and I think that people should see how she performs when she is healthy before calling for a new coach :pSadly not suprised by that.

Epigone
Sep 15th, 2005, 01:57 PM
Someone from the Russian forum posted a link to this (http://www.sovsport.ru/gazeta/default.asp?pkey1=0000200002&pkey0=0000100019&days=7&id=197521) article.
29 августа 2005
Россиянки Вера Звонарева и Елена Бовина не примут участия в стартующем в Нью-Йорке Открытом чемпионате США. У Веры врачи обнаружили вирус, подобный тому, которым была заражена бельгийка Жюстин Энен-Арденн, пропустившая из-за лечения почти весь 2004 год. Возможно, Звонарева примет участие в азиатских турнирах, которые пройдут осенью, но сейчас ей необходим отдых.As you can see, the article was posted on the 29th of August, and it says that Bepa has a virus similar to the one that Justine had.

I tried to find out about her condition more than a week before that, but didn't hear anything until earlier this week.
Can you see what I was saying about the flow of information?
I have to try to find a way to get news quickly... :scratch:

goldenlox
Sep 15th, 2005, 02:10 PM
Vera also had the ankle injury at that time.

Epigone
Sep 15th, 2005, 02:17 PM
Vera also had the ankle injury at that time.Yes, that was the official reason given for her non-appearance.

I'm busy firing off an email to try to make sure there is no confusion in the future :o

nick_chicane
Sep 15th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Yes, that was the official reason given for her non-appearance.

I'm busy firing off an email to try to make sure there is no confusion in the future :o


Good work epigone!! I may critisise her official site an awful lot but what you do for us is greatly appreciated!! :)

goldenlox
Sep 16th, 2005, 04:37 PM
Get well soon Vera. We all miss you :kiss: :wavey:

andrewbroad
Sep 16th, 2005, 10:47 PM
Poor Bepa - a viral infection and then the left-ankle sprain that wrecked her American hardcourt summer! :sad:

This explains why Bepa has been struggling particularly in hot climates this year.

I wish her a full recovery, and a great 2006.

--
Dr. Andrew Broad
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/)
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/ (http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/tennis/zvona/)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/verazvonareva/)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeldani/)

nick_chicane
Sep 17th, 2005, 09:08 AM
Well one good thing that will come out of all this is that Vera will have very few points to defend next year so she should be able to relax more and hopefully play some better tennis to regain her place in the top 10!! :)

rrfnpump
Sep 17th, 2005, 09:46 AM
Well one good thing that will come out of all this is that Vera will have very few points to defend next year so she should be able to relax more and hopefully play some better tennis to regain her place in the top 10!! :)

but she will have much tougher draws next year :unsure:

nick_chicane
Sep 17th, 2005, 11:06 AM
but she will have much tougher draws next year :unsure:

Yes, but we also know how well Vera can play and i'm sure players wont want to draw her!!

rrfnpump
Sep 17th, 2005, 12:30 PM
Yes, but we also know how well Vera can play and i'm sure players wont want to draw her!!

of course this is true, but a Mauresmo or Davenport in R3 of a Grand Slam is not neccessary

Vera made it into Top10 and she is capable of doing it again, but it will become a hard task as many many players in Top20 are playing really well and are extremely dangerous

goldenlox
Sep 17th, 2005, 02:11 PM
but she will have much tougher draws next year :unsure:Look at Kim this year. She started outside the top 100.
Drew Lindsay in the 4th round of RG & Wimby.
Vera will do okay, if she's healthy.

Epigone
Sep 17th, 2005, 02:19 PM
The main thing is to get healthy, and then get some consistency.

If Bepa plays the way she did during the US hardcourt season last year, she will be fine.

nick_chicane
Sep 17th, 2005, 05:01 PM
Look at Kim this year. She started outside the top 100.
Drew Lindsay in the 4th round of RG & Wimby.
Vera will do okay, if she's healthy.

But with all due respect, Vera isnt as good as Kim!! So it is slightly easier for a player of Kim's quality to move up the rankings than it is for Vera!!

Also, i think were worrying abit too much about these tougher draws!! Vera is ranked 20th in the world which could easily rise before the end of the year so she could go into the Aussie Open as say 16th seed which wouldnt be bad really!!

Epigone
Sep 17th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Also, i think were worrying abit too much about these tougher draws!! Vera is ranked 20th in the world which could easily rise before the end of the year so she could go into the Aussie Open as say 16th seed which wouldnt be bad really!!I doubt her ranking will go up this year.

She still has quite a few points to defend, and I think that her schedule will be light for the rest of the year.

The important thing is to try to stabilise her ranking without getting too tired.

nick_chicane
Sep 17th, 2005, 07:01 PM
I doubt her ranking will go up this year.

She still has quite a few points to defend, and I think that her schedule will be light for the rest of the year.

The important thing is to try to stabilise her ranking without getting too tired.

Yeah, but you never know!! The rankings are pretty tight and the girls above her have points to defend too so you never know what could happen!!

rrfnpump
Sep 17th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Yeah, but you never know!! The rankings are pretty tight and the girls above her have points to defend too so you never know what could happen!!

Philadeplhia are a lot of points :unsure:

Ivanovic, Hantuchova and Dechy have nothing to defend

Molik, Myskina have many points to defend

Epigone
Sep 17th, 2005, 09:39 PM
Philadeplhia are a lot of points :unsure:Tell me about it!

Defending those 240 points is a scary prospect :crying2:

She didn't defend the 102 points from Beijing last year, but I'm sure that she'll be back to try to defend her QF points from Moscow.

If she can do well in the European indoor tournaments, I think she should be okay. Like you say, Molik and Myskina are the players with a lot of points to defend, but I think they are too far ahead of Bepa at this stage.

She just has to protect herself from players like Golovin passing her in the rankings :unsure:

andrewbroad
Sep 19th, 2005, 02:08 AM
But with all due respect, Vera isnt as good as Kim!!

Better! Just not as successful or consistent yet.

Bepa has all the tennis-qualities that Clijsters has: amazing lateral retrieval-skills, with power as well. But Bepa's power comes from natural flair rather than big muscles. I also believe that Bepa has more precision than Clijsters, and the ability to take the ball earlier.


She just has to protect herself from players like Golovin passing her in the rankings :unsure:

I hope to see Tatiana Golovin in the top 20 by the end of the year, whether Bepa manages to stay there or not.

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rrfnpump
Sep 24th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Vera is still in the entry list of guangzhou :)
would be 1st seed as venus has withdrawn

seems like we will see her comming back there
dont know what to expect though :shrug:

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Sep 25th, 2005, 02:53 AM
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Added on: 2005-09-24 11:11:05 by Vera
Thaks a lot guys for your birthday wishes! I'm in guangzhou right now. my ankle is much better, but i dont think its 100% yet, even though it wasn't bothering me during the practice. Thanks a lot everyone for your support. :)
<<<

Anyone can pretend to be anyone on that guestbook, but this seems genuine to me. :-)

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Epigone
Sep 25th, 2005, 06:05 AM
Anyone can pretend to be anyone on that guestbook, but this seems genuine to me. :-)It looks like Bepa's writing style :)

I was told that she has been practising, but I'm not sure for how long. Hopefully she won't be too rusty.

She has to believe that her ankle will be fine, otherwise it will play on her mind. I believe that worrying about injuries has caused Nadia Petrova a lot of trouble, and I don't want the same thing to happen to Bepa.

pav
Sep 25th, 2005, 08:42 AM
Certainly hope it is the one and only, sounds like She is going to take to the court. I'm heading straight off to chase a Sheep to celebrate, hell for an occasion like this I'll have a lash at that Hereford Heifer in the small paddock, hold on, it's dark :mad:

Anyway Go Bepa :bounce:

Epigone
Sep 25th, 2005, 01:53 PM
Guangzhou Maindraw
(1)Vera Zvonareva :dance: vs. Ting Li
Alina Jidkova vs. Q

Ashley Harkleroad vs. Tian Tian Sun
(6)Nuria Llagostera Vives vs. Sybille Bammer

(4)Maria Kirilenko vs. Maria Elena Camerin
Aranxta Parra Santonja vs. Q

Viktoria Kutuzova vs. Jamea Jackson
(5)Jie Zheng vs. Carly Gullickson

(7)Marta Domachowska vs. Antonella Serra Zanetti
Zi Yan vs. (wc)Yan-Chong Chen

Emmanuele Gagliardi vs. Hana Sromova
(3)Na Li vs. Shikha Uberoi

(8)Martina Sucha vs. (wc)Yan-Ze Xie
Galina Voskoboeva vs. Q

Tzipora Obziler vs. Q
(2)Shuai Peng vs. Evie Dominikovic


Bepa isn't playing doubles, which I think is a good decision at this stage

Just do your best :hug:

nick_chicane
Sep 25th, 2005, 02:38 PM
Yeah, its an interesting draw!! Vera at the top of her game wouldnt have a problem with anyone in it, but coming back from a long injury lay off, will make a difference!! Kirilenko just won the China Open so she will be a threat!!

Though, at least its a weaker field so she can get back into action against some weaker opponents and not thrown straight in at the deep end!! :)

More importantly, its nice to just have her back playing again!! :)

goldenlox
Sep 25th, 2005, 04:29 PM
This will be interesting

Vera Zvonareva vs. Ting Li
Alina Jidkova vs. Q

Ashley Harkleroad vs. Tian Tian Sun
(6)Nuria Llagostera Vives vs. Sybille Bammer

(4)Maria Kirilenko vs. Maria Elena Camerin
Aranxta Parra Santonja vs. Q

Viktoria Kutuzova vs. Jamea Jackson
(5)Jie Zheng vs. Carly Gullickson

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 25th, 2005, 06:20 PM
great to see Vera back :) :D
1st matches always tough on return

come on Vera, you can do it ;)
good luck :)

rrfnpump
Sep 25th, 2005, 06:32 PM
good draw fro Vera :D
Li Ting is struggling lately, but is a hard-hitter
I think its the perfect match-up for Vera after this break

Makiri and Zheng in her half :unsure:
and Li Na and Peng Shuai in the other....
will be very tough for Vera to win this thing
but I dont care if she wins this tournament - that should not be the expectation of us
I want Vera to compete well and find her rythm slowly

Davai :bounce:

daniela86
Sep 25th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh our Bepa is back :bounce: :bounce: :rocker: (Epigone was nearly 100% right :p He said that she would come back at Beijing and she came back one week later :p )
Btw, I agree totally with rrfnpump, I don't expect Bepa to take the title,the most important is that she feels great on a tennis court again and that she slowly comes back at her best level :bounce: but I am very curious and impatient to see how she 'll play against Li :) If she plays at 60% of her level, she should win :p but I 'd better not make predictions, I don't want to jinx her :hug: :hug: Davai Bepa, try your best and have fun in China!! :kiss: We love you!! :kiss:

_LuCaS_
Sep 25th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Back on track, finally
Maybe this break helped her clear her mind a bit and get back on the winning track
Best of luck Bepa ;)

nick_chicane
Sep 25th, 2005, 07:48 PM
Yeah, if the illness is gone now, then we should see an improvement in her game!! I know the ankle isnt 100% yet but we should still see a difference from what we've seen so far this year!! :)

Epigone
Sep 25th, 2005, 09:05 PM
I know the ankle isnt 100% yet but we should still see a difference from what we've seen so far this year!! :)Ah, so now you think that the person posting those messages was Bepa :p

I just hope that the virus doesn't make her lethargic. Her endurance used to be one of her strengths, and I'd hate to see her unable to put up a fight if a match went on for too long :sad:

However, I'm feeling very positive about her return, and I think that she will play some great tennis :)

nick_chicane
Sep 25th, 2005, 09:19 PM
Ah, so now you think that the person posting those messages was Bepa :p

Well its you that keeps saying it is her so im just trusting your judgement!!! :lol: