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Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:27 AM
Bepa to serve for the match at *5-4

You successfully served for the Fed Cup, so this is a piece of cake ;)

Focus!!!

pav
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:29 AM
Can't look!!

Shoulderpova
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:29 AM
30 all Bepa :bounce:

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:30 AM
Broken!!! :bigcry:

Bepa 5-5*

Blast some return winners!

Davai!!!

Shoulderpova
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:31 AM
55 :mad:

Shoulderpova
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:32 AM
:bigcry:

saab95
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:33 AM
from FS 0-3 to 5-3!??!?!

it's not Vera ))

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Bepa serving to stay in the match *5-6

Davai!!!

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:35 AM
from FS 0-3 to 5-3!??!?!

it's not Vera ))But being broken while serving for the match is exactly like her :tape: :sad:

saab95
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:36 AM
from 5-3 to 5-6 real Vera ((

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:38 AM
Venus breaks to take the 3rd 7-5 :sobbing:

Venus wins 6-2 4-6 7-5

Bepa :shrug:

pav
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:39 AM
Bepa!! How do You manage it!!? :crying2:

saab95
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:42 AM
too many black men around...

Emptiness
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:44 AM
Oh Vera..... http://www.imagelink.org/id30963.gif

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:45 AM
According to someone in the GM, Bepa was crying at *5-6

Before the tournament I told people that Bepa could still get emotional, despite it being an exhibition :sad:

Bepa :hug:

Daniel
Jan 6th, 2005, 11:53 AM
Vera :hug: :smooch:

KV
Jan 6th, 2005, 12:04 PM
Wouldn't consider her loss as a disappointment, but she could have done more.

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 12:10 PM
Wouldn't consider her loss as a disappointment, but she could have done more.I'm disappointed because she fought back from 0-3 to serve for the match, but then couldn't close it out.

The last point of the match was a DF by Bepa :o

katiektc
Jan 6th, 2005, 12:27 PM
Why does it say on Watsons website that dementieva is now playing doubles with vera? what happened to vaidisova?

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 12:43 PM
That is strange :scratch:

If they are playing together, I don't even want to think about how many DFs they could produce :o

katiektc
Jan 6th, 2005, 12:56 PM
Williams' lead 2-1 at the minute....Lena/Vera serving, but im not sure which.
only 2 DF's so far....in 1st service game :tape:

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 12:58 PM
For those of you playing at home, they served 2 DFs in their opening service game, and were broken.

The good news is that they broke back, so the score was *1-2. However, another DF in the next service game led to be broken again :o

Bepa/Lena 1-3*

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:11 PM
Bepa and Lena have levelled the match at 4-4*, and still have 3 DFs :dance:

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Bepa and Lena break, and lead *5-4

Please serve well :unsure:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:20 PM
Why the hell is Bepa playing doubles with LenaD???? :confused:

Anyway Good Luck!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:21 PM
broken

5-5* :retard:

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:22 PM
They break back to love *6-5 :D

One of their DFs has disappeared from the scoreboard :confused:

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Bepa/Lena took the 1st set 7-5

anthonyqld
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:41 PM
I wanted her to play the at Gold Coast , but Hong Kong might be better preparation.


I wanted her to play the Coast again, then my three fave's would have been there.

I disagree that HK would be better preparation. Any official tournament is better than playing exhibitions.

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:44 PM
Bepa/Lena break back for *2-3

They currently have 5 DFs, so lets hope that number doesn't increase

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 01:48 PM
I wanted her to play the Coast again, then my three fave's would have been there.

I disagree that HK would be better preparation. Any official tournament is better than playing exhibitions.Bepa's major problem comes when facing top 10 players, as was seen with the choke against Venus.

This exhibition gave her the chance to play against two top players, which I think is a valuable learning experience.

Her original plan was to not play before Sydney, so I think playing Hong Kong is probably better than doing nothing.

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:06 PM
Bepa/Lena hold for 5-5*, and they've managed to keep the DFs down to 6 :yeah:

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:08 PM
Bepa and Lena break for *6-5

They are serving for the match.

Hasn't this already happened once tonight? :scared: :bigcry:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:12 PM
*30-30

Plzzzzz!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:12 PM
*40-30

Mp!!!!!!!!!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:13 PM
mp waste :mad:

adv. Williams :fiery:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:15 PM
back to deuce :hehehe: save a bp :D

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:16 PM
adv! mp :banana: must take it!

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:17 PM
the DF toll raised from 7 to 9 in the last game :rolleyes:

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:17 PM
Bepa/Lena def. Venus/Serena 7-5 7-5, but someone serve three DFs in the final game, and they had to save a BP after blowing a MP :shout:

Chunchun
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Bepa/Lena def. Venus/Serena 7-5 7-5, but someone serve three DFs in the final game, and they had to save a BP after blowing a MP :shout:

calm down ;) they WON.

Natasc
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Bepa/Lena def. Venus/Serena 7-5 7-5, but someone serve three DFs in the final game, and they had to save a BP after blowing a MP :shout:
At least they won!!
That's good, i can imagine Lena and Bepa as a double team ;)

Emptiness
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:31 PM
Yay.

But what happened to that girl? The one no one cares abouts. :tape:

goldenlox
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:51 PM
If Vera takes next week off, then she comes into the AO with just two exhibition matches.
That's an interesting schedule. Vera will be fresh, but will she be match tough?

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 02:59 PM
If Vera takes next week off, then she comes into the AO with just two exhibition matches.
That's an interesting schedule. Vera will be fresh, but will she be match tough?100% stupid idea, but I know that it's meant to bait me :p

She isn't match ready, and needs another tournament under her belt.

Resting isn't going to prevent her from choking away leads. She needs to be on court and exposed to pressure so that she can build up a tolerance to it.

goldenlox
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:07 PM
but I know that it's meant to bait me :p

There are two pages of partial scores at an exhibition:rolleyes:
I'm trying to send you back to Hantuchova:wavey:

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:17 PM
There are two pages of partial scores at an exhibition:rolleyes: So I should just be happy that Bepa is getting paid, and not worry about the score or how she plays???
I'm trying to send you back to Hantuchova:wavey:I'm not going back there because, quite amazingly, there are people I find even more annoying than you in the Cocktail Party.

goldenlox
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:18 PM
Maybe I can send you to Davenport's thread:lol:

katiektc
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:23 PM
Anyway..back to Vera...
after taking down the Williams' sisters maybe Vera/Lena wouldnt be a bad old doubles combo.
i always thought the sisters' were pretty invincible to beat when i watched them
so well done girls :yeah:

goldenlox
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:25 PM
Vera and Anastasia won the KC, and the Fed Cup final.
I think they would like to win a major:D

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:26 PM
I want Bepa and Nadia to play doubles together, but I think that's only a dream.

I think they would be an awesome combination :worship:

Mathijs
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Well they are not invincible to beat as i saw it on TV Wimbledon 2003 Lena D/Lina against them, and the williamses lost it, i was so very happy to see Lena D/Lina win and the Williamses going out..

back to Vera, I hope onm at least a final between Vera and Lena D, that would be my dreamfinal and a very great match don't you think??

Hope that Vera will and can continue to improve her game and ranking this season, i'm expecting alot of good results from Vera this season ;)

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Vera and Anastasia won the KC, and the Fed Cup final.
I think they would like to win a major:DThat would require Nastya not withdrawing from doubles after losing early in singles :tape:

Nastya :hug:

katiektc
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Hehe, it would be nice for 2 russina's to win a doubles major.
but with suarez/ruano pascal about noone has a chance really :)

goldenlox
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:33 PM
They have been losing more and more. This year, the majors are wide open.

goldenlox
Jan 6th, 2005, 03:42 PM
So I should just be happy that Bepa is getting paid, and not worry about the score or how she plays???Put partial exhibition scores in her forum.
The cheering thread doesn't need - 2-3, 30-15 - for page after page. Not for exo's.

pav
Jan 6th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Thanks everone, just followed Your coverage of unexpected doubles match, I went to bed straight after singles match sobbing and sulking, and I get up and Bepa(withLena) have risen out of the ashes :)

goldenlox
Jan 6th, 2005, 06:31 PM
If you want to call exo doubles rising from the ashes.
I would prefer a great run in singles at the AO to a doubles win in Hong Kong.
I'm glad Vera is in Hong Kong because this is what the top players do.
They play these exos.

pav
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:12 PM
If you want to call exo doubles rising from the ashes.
I would prefer a great run in singles at the AO to a doubles win in Hong Kong.
I'm glad Vera is in Hong Kong because this is what the top players do.
They play these exos.

You are right, the whole event is not to get too emotional about, but it is good experience for Her to take part (except for having to wear Momo's green dress!)

Emptiness
Jan 6th, 2005, 08:24 PM
Was it really Momo's dress? I was just about to accept Vera's horrible fashion taste. http://www.imagelink.org/id35122.gif

Btw Martin, i uploaded the doubles match with Maria vs. Sveta and ASV.
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3S33EXI80PNFX04PGNC67ET0EC
Haven't watched it yet, but i dont think anything screwed up.

Epigone
Jan 6th, 2005, 10:34 PM
Put partial exhibition scores in her forum.
The cheering thread doesn't need - 2-3, 30-15 - for page after page. Not for exo's.1. I wasn't posting partial scores
2. There were less than 60 posts by everyone covering both matches
3. Stop emphasising that it's an exhibition, since it's what you wanted her to play. She should be fighting as hard as she can to win, otherwise there is no point in playing. I think that Bepa's crying suggests that she wasn't treating her singles match as unimportant.
4. Does the cheering thread really need your assigned-to-keyboard-shortcut comments such as "Vera's real goal should be the AO"? You post the same thing in 8 or 10 different cheering threads :o

Epigone
Jan 7th, 2005, 12:09 PM
Btw Martin, i uploaded the doubles match with Maria vs. Sveta and ASV.
http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3S33EXI80PNFX04PGNC67ET0EC
Haven't watched it yet, but i dont think anything screwed up.Thank you so much :worship:

Highlights of Bepa vs Venus are here (http://www.watsonswaterchallenge.com/chi/live/jan7_4.wmv)

I can't believe Venus got a lucky netcord return when Bepa was serving at *5-4 30-40 in the 3rd set :o

Epigone
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:11 PM
According to the scoreboard, it's Bepa and Nicole Vaidisova vs Venus and Sanchez-Vicario :confused:

Bepa and Nicole had BP at 4-5*, but couldn't convert.

They lead 1-0* in the 2nd

katiektc
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:13 PM
now its SV&lena d playing Vera/nicole
with Sv/lena up 1 set
i have no clue
its so confusing.......!!! although that does not take much :angel:

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Stop emphasising that it's an exhibition, since it's what you wanted her to play. :oI want her to play an exhibition because it pays much better than a Tier III.
A tough Tier III with players like Schnyder, Nadia, and Golovin.
Vera might cry at practices, who knows.
I want results in Melbourne, and then another YEC year.

Epigone
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:17 PM
I want her to play an exhibition because it pays much better than a Tier III.Why is it always about money with you?

Get money from endorsements, and play tournaments to win titles.

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:21 PM
This is where the top players go. Maria, Sveta, Lena- those are YEC players.
There are no YEC singles players at Gold Coast.
But Hong Kong is nothing more than an exhibition.

Epigone
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:24 PM
But Hong Kong is nothing more than an exhibition.Does that mean that you think that the players in Hong Kong aren't trying?

Bepa needs to be playing competitive tennis. She needs to be tested mentally.

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Bepa needs to be playing competitive tennis. She needs to be tested mentally.You need to be tested mentally:lol:

Epigone
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:48 PM
You need to be tested mentally:lol:I have been tested mentally. Your point being?

Bepa and Nicole lost 4-6 3-6

They missed their chances.

Apparently Lena D replace Venus in the 2nd set :eek:

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:52 PM
Is Vera taking next week off?
Then she might train with Maria. That would be good for Vera.
Maria is very competitive.

Epigone
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:57 PM
Is Vera taking next week off?
Then she might train with Maria. That would be good for Vera.
Maria is very competitive.Why would she take next week off? Her plans were Sydney and then the AO. Playing the exhibition shouldn't change those plans at all.

Nadia said that she is still rusty and would like a few matches in Sydney, and Bepa is in the same boat. She needs to get used to the weather down here, and work on that serve.

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 02:58 PM
If she's playing Sydney, then she played enough in Hong Kong.
The heat might be brutal. Drink plenty of fluids, Vera.

Epigone
Jan 7th, 2005, 03:02 PM
Last year, she played the Gold Coast and Sydney.

This year, she will play Hong Kong and Sydney.

IMO, last year was better preparation.

As well as the heat, she needs to get used to the rebound ace surface.

I don't want her getting injured :sad:

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 03:07 PM
Vera plays a lot. She's a real grinder. No singles wins in Hong Kong.
She needs to pick it up in Australia.

Epigone
Jan 7th, 2005, 03:11 PM
Vera plays a lot. She's a real grinder. No singles wins in Hong Kong.
She needs to pick it up in Australia.That's why she needs to play in Sydney.

She is serving way too many DFs, and that will be a huge problem for her if she doesn't get it sorted. She needs to hold serve at crucial times during matches.

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Holding serve has always been a concern.
Sydney will be her first event since the YEC.
Vera has lost 4 straight matches. Plus 2 in Hong Kong.
It's time to get some wins.

Happy Guy
Jan 7th, 2005, 05:02 PM
A big clap for Vera Zvonareva, who displayed great sportsmanship and gratitude by agreeing to all these format changes throughout the HK tournament. Yes she played with three different doubles partners in the tournament and I was very impressed with her volleys and groundies. :) I appreciate her attitude a lot! :)

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 05:05 PM
Vera lost the Philly final, all her YEC and all her Hong Kong singles matches.
See what happens when you are in with top players?
It's tough to win matches.
You have to compete for every point.

pav
Jan 7th, 2005, 05:56 PM
quote : from Goldenlox

If she's playing Sydney, then she played enough in Hong Kong.
The heat might be brutal. Drink plenty of fluids, Vera.


are You saying that Vera needs to take on board extra fluids as compared to other players because of a certain habit She has during matches? :)

goldenlox
Jan 7th, 2005, 05:59 PM
I'm thinking about perspiration. Tears are good fluids to flow:D
Sweat has to be replaced:)

Epigone
Jan 8th, 2005, 12:53 AM
A big clap for Vera Zvonareva, who displayed great sportsmanship and gratitude by agreeing to all these format changes throughout the HK tournament. Yes she played with three different doubles partners in the tournament and I was very impressed with her volleys and groundies. :) I appreciate her attitude a lot! :)Bepa is a very accommodating person.

She could have flown to Australia early to prepare for Sydney, but she stuck around to put on a show for the crowd.

I just hope that people don't think that they can take advantage of her.

Epigone
Jan 8th, 2005, 08:40 AM
With Justine and Jennifer withdrawing from Sydney, Bepa will be seeded #4, which means she will get a 1st round bye :dance:

I can't wait to see the draw :)

Epigone
Jan 8th, 2005, 08:49 AM
I found this (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=24619) article which mentions Bepa's potential draw.

Molik and Hewitt draw well
16:51 AEDT Sat Jan 8 2005

Alicia Molik's Australian Open preparations received another boost when she was handed a relatively trouble-free draw :fiery: for next week's Medibank International in Sydney.
The sixth-seeded South Australian will meet Italian Francesca Schiavone in the first round and has landed on the opposite side of the draw to world No.1 Lindsay Davenport.

Davenport is the only player in the world's top six that Molik hasn't beaten but will only come up against Australia's big white hope if the two reach the final of the grand slam lead-up event.

The in-form Molik, who has won 26 of her last 30 matches, including three straight to open the year with a bang at the Hopman Cup in Perth, is projected to meet fourth seed Vera Zvonareva in the quarter-finals and fellow Russian Anastasia Myskina in the semi-finals.

Molik upstaged Myskina, the French Open champion and current world No.3, in the bronze medal playoff at the Athens Olympics and would relish another showdown with the ITF's international player of 2004.Screw them!!! :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

Bepa will wipe the floor with Alicia this time.

However, I'd prefer that Alicia loses before getting to Bepa so that I won't have to pay extra for Centre Court tickets :devil:

We could have another Bepa vs Nastya showdown in the SF :lick:

Epigone
Jan 8th, 2005, 01:02 PM
6-Alicia MOLIK vs Francesca SCHIAVONE
Jelena JANKOVIC vs Elena LIKHOVTSEVA
Q/LL vs Fabiola ZULUAGA
bye vs 4-Vera ZVONAREVA

Bepa's quarter for Sydney. Four of those players beat Bepa last year, but with the exception of Zuluaga, those defeats came indoors towards the end of the year.

I really think that Bepa can win this quarter, and then face Nadia or Nastya in the SF :)

Bepa, please believe in yourself. I'll be there to cheer for you ;)

Udachi!!!

Gowza
Jan 8th, 2005, 02:12 PM
would be good to see her win this quarter, molik is the big threat here.

goldenlox
Jan 8th, 2005, 02:17 PM
6-Alicia MOLIK vs Francesca SCHIAVONE
Jelena JANKOVIC vs Elena LIKHOVTSEVA
Q/LL vs Fabiola ZULUAGA
bye vs 4-Vera ZVONAREVA
Udachi!!!This is why I'm not a fan of this tournament. This draw is brutal.
Like a Tier I.

Gowza
Jan 8th, 2005, 02:20 PM
true it is much like a tier 1 quality wise, but i think vera has a good chance in this draw, certainly to win a couple of rounds and then it gets tougher but still possible to get through it.

goldenlox
Jan 8th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Vera hasn't won a match in a long time. So she needs to be focused for Zuluaga, who beat Vera last year.

KV
Jan 8th, 2005, 04:35 PM
Vera should bt. Zuluaga easily, unless she plays very bad. Vera's the clear fav.

goldenlox
Jan 8th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Vera needs to win a match, so she has a little confidence going into Melbourne.

rrfnpump
Jan 8th, 2005, 05:29 PM
Good luck Vera in Sydney ;)

Epigone
Jan 8th, 2005, 05:50 PM
Bepa isn't playing doubles in Sydney :bigcry:

Gotta run to the airport

Cya! :wavey:

goldenlox
Jan 8th, 2005, 05:53 PM
Vera, Nastya, Nadia, and Lena L. are all not playing doubles in Sydney.

Emptiness
Jan 8th, 2005, 06:50 PM
I found this article which mentions Bepa's potential draw.That girl is like the Australian Maria. http://www.imagelink.org/id31204.gif

Atleast this draw will be good preparation for AO. I believe Vera will come through. Good luck. :)

Bye Martin, have funs.

pav
Jan 8th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Yes they are building their hopes on Alicia alright!


This quote from Bob Larson's Tennis News is a bit tough on Vera You would put Myskina as Favourite but remote?

Quote: There are only a few which are really key for rankings reasons, most of them at Sydney. We'd mention the Davenport/Dementieva semifinal, which will determine whether Dementieva makes #4; the Zvonareva/Molik quarterfinal, which would likely put Zvonareva in the Top Ten if she wins (though the odds of her beating Myskina seem remote), and the final, which if won by Myskina would make her #2.

Epigone
Jan 9th, 2005, 08:42 AM
Today was quite interesting.

I saw Bepa practising in the afternoon, then Nastya came to visit and they hugged and stuff, and then signed autographs. Lex left at this time. Then Bepa went to the court nextdoor and hugged Martina Navratilova after practice, but then she did a runner! :eek:

She left the court through the side entrance, so nobody could get to her. Serves me right for not speaking to her straight away...She was talking to Lena L. and Jens back there, and then went into the lounge.

Anyway, I waited for at least 20 minutes, and I saw Lex emerge from the lounge, and then disappear somewhere. I figured he was getting transport to leave the venue, but he wasn't! I saw him reappear, and it looked like he was going to walk up some steps that lead to Centre Court and corporate hospitality. I figured I had a chance to cut him off, but I'd have to sprint a few hundred metres around some buildings and one of the show courts.

So I floored it, and I saw him talking to someone at the top of the stairs, and I ran over to him and kinda pointed :o. To cut a long story short, we walked and talked for about 15 minutes while he tried to find some nacho van that he had heard about :lol:.

The problem was that all of the food stalls had closed because the matches had finished, and he didn't want the food in the players' lounge. Then he tried to talk his way into the corporate section to get some food, but he didn't have a corporate pass. He flashed his coaching pass, but they wouldn't let him in :rolleyes:. He finally gave up searching, and that's where we left it. I think he was just going to suffer through eating the food in the lounge :D.

The guy is absolutely hilarious (he provided a running commentary on the food situation as we walked), and he's gonna sort some stuff out for me :yeah:. Things are looking very good at this moment in time :)

pav
Jan 9th, 2005, 09:12 AM
I'm jealous of You being there Epi, but looks like it's not going to come easily! You'll be worn out by the time it's over :) good luck! good to hear the reports

~Rachel~
Jan 9th, 2005, 02:37 PM
Today was quite interesting.

I saw Bepa practising in the afternoon, then Nastya came to visit and they hugged and stuff, and then signed autographs. Lex left at this time. Then Bepa went to the court nextdoor and hugged Martina Navratilova after practice, but then she did a runner! :eek:

She left the court through the side entrance, so nobody could get to her. Serves me right for not speaking to her straight away...She was talking to Lena L. and Jens back there, and then went into the lounge.

Anyway, I waited for at least 20 minutes, and I saw Lex emerge from the lounge, and then disappear somewhere. I figured he was getting transport to leave the venue, but he wasn't! I saw him reappear, and it looked like he was going to walk up some steps that lead to Centre Court and corporate hospitality. I figured I had a chance to cut him off, but I'd have to sprint a few hundred metres around some buildings and one of the show courts.

So I floored it, and I saw him talking to someone at the top of the stairs, and I ran over to him and kinda pointed :o. To cut a long story short, we walked and talked for about 15 minutes while he tried to find some nacho van that he had heard about :lol:.

The problem was that all of the food stalls had closed because the matches had finished, and he didn't want the food in the players' lounge. Then he tried to talk his way into the corporate section to get some food, but he didn't have a corporate pass. He flashed his coaching pass, but they wouldn't let him in :rolleyes:. He finally gave up searching, and that's where we left it. I think he was just going to suffer through eating the food in the lounge :D.

The guy is absolutely hilarious (he provided a running commentary on the food situation as we walked), and he's gonna sort some stuff out for me :yeah:. Things are looking very good at this moment in time :)

Thnx for the report :)

I don't suppose everyone can boast of hugging Martina Navratilova!!

Did it seem like Vera was good friends with most of the players she saw then?

goldenlox
Jan 9th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Good! Now talk to Vera:D

goldenlox
Jan 9th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Vera has lost 6 matches in a row since the Philly semi:eek:
It's time to build some confidence for Melbourne:kiss:
Who was Vera practicing with?

Emptiness
Jan 9th, 2005, 07:30 PM
Remember to video tape your interview with Vera! I want to see the exact moment she starts fearing for her life. :)

Epigone
Jan 10th, 2005, 09:45 AM
Did it seem like Vera was good friends with most of the players she saw then?Yes, it did :)

Nastya also hugged and kissed Lex when she arrived, so it seems like Bepa and Lex are friendly with a lot of players and coaches.

Epigone
Jan 10th, 2005, 09:54 AM
Good! Now talk to Vera:DI'll try :)

Lex, in his typical joking mood, told Bepa to watch out for me because I have a Masters degree in physics (well, I almost do ;) )

Then he made some quip about how he thought I was a stalker, but that I'm not, and that I'm cool

Lex :crazy:

goldenlox
Jan 10th, 2005, 02:05 PM
Then he made some quip about how he thought I was a stalker..That's what I thought:D

goldenlox
Jan 10th, 2005, 04:40 PM
It's time for :worship: Vera:worship: to get some confidence before the AO.
Don't let that stalker distract you:wavey:

Epigone
Jan 10th, 2005, 08:44 PM
Don't let that stalker distract you:wavey::shout:

Lex has cleared me :angel:

Besides, I have been watching many other players :)

Gowza
Jan 10th, 2005, 10:44 PM
good luck vera!

Emptiness
Jan 11th, 2005, 07:21 AM
Stop talking to Lex and go talk to Vera! Shes waiting for you. :tape:

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/7374/verazvonarevap00739eo.jpg

Daniel
Jan 11th, 2005, 07:29 AM
Go Vera, please dont lose :bounce: :D

Shoulderpova
Jan 11th, 2005, 10:39 AM
Go Bepa :clap2:

Epigone
Jan 11th, 2005, 11:35 AM
Stop talking to Lex and go talk to Vera! Shes waiting for you. :tape::p

I didn't see Bepa or Lex today, but I'm going to Bepa's match tomorrow night. I think she could train early in the morning, and then again in the afternoon, so I'll see what happens.

goldenlox
Jan 11th, 2005, 02:26 PM
Lets go :hearts: Vera:hearts: . It's a new year:bounce: . Start strong:D :wavey:

goldenlox
Jan 11th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Vera plays the last match against Zuluaga.
If she wins. she probably plays Molik. So it's a tough draw.

Epigone
Jan 11th, 2005, 07:41 PM
Udachi Bepa!!!

People watching this match on TV should be able to hear me in the crowd

I'll be the LOUD one!!! :D

Emptiness
Jan 12th, 2005, 11:01 AM
Fabiola Zuluaga def. Vera Zvonareva 7-6, 6-3

WTF Vera. http://www.imagelink.org/id30742.gif
What in the hell was that?
I didn't even consider it a possiblity she'd lose. You preform to your ranking not above and not below! Thats Vera! Stop hanging around Anastasia!

The top seed was out, she'd most likely faced Molik then Nadia to reach the semis. Another wasted opportunity. http://www.imagelink.org/id30753.gif

deep bass
Jan 12th, 2005, 11:19 AM
Not again! Match report Epi?

Emptiness
Jan 12th, 2005, 11:22 AM
I think Martin is crying himself to sleep.

http://img101.exs.cx/img101/6948/r3501372052eq.jpg

Epigone
Jan 12th, 2005, 11:57 AM
Bepa :bigcry:

She was off, and Fabiola was on.

She blew a SP at 5-4*, and then had to save 4 SPs in the TB, before she brought up another SP, which she again blew, and then lost the TB.

2nd set, she went up an early break, but couldn't keep it. She had some costly double faults, and that was it.

She received a code violation in the 1st set for racquet abuse :rolleyes:, and after that she seemed to lose a bit of her fire.

I'm pretty sure that she was crying between sets, but she did come out to play in the 2nd. I guess it all came down to her being unable to keep the ball in court.

However, despite the sadness, I'm happy with the way I performed in the stands. People were staring at me when I was shouting "Davai Vera". My voice rang out through the stadium :D.

Bepa, the prize is the AO, so keep on practising.

rrfnpump
Jan 12th, 2005, 12:07 PM
Vera :sad:

But I am looking forward to Aussie Open ;)

goldenlox
Jan 12th, 2005, 02:11 PM
If you include Hong Kong, Vera has lost 7 straight singles matches.
Not the best way to prepare for the AO.

Vera has to be very focused for round 1. And build her confidence throughout the first week.

It's a long year. Stay positive:kiss: .

goldenlox
Jan 12th, 2005, 03:36 PM
:bigcry: Vera:bigcry: had a very tough draw. If she won, she would have played Molik.
There are only 4 majors all year. This is the only one for 4 more months.

Get focused and fight:boxing:

Emptiness
Jan 12th, 2005, 04:36 PM
I'm real disappointed for Vera... what a funk she's in.

goldenlox
Jan 12th, 2005, 04:45 PM
It's a long year. There's no reason for Vera to overreact to one loss.
I know Vera will do well this year.
But to make the YEC again, she needs to come strong in the majors.
That starts in Melbourne:bounce:

TheBoiledEgg
Jan 12th, 2005, 05:14 PM
another bad loss :( :(

Vera :( she's in a pretty bad way now :(

goldenlox
Jan 12th, 2005, 05:16 PM
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/9383/gy6a00109bo.jpgVera will play well in Melbourne.
The journey has just begun!

Gowza
Jan 12th, 2005, 10:14 PM
have to say i didnt expect the loss but it was her first wta match of the year so hopefully it got the nerves and the rust out of her game ready for melb.

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 09:36 AM
I think that Bepa has already bailed for Melbourne, so let's hope that she can string some wins together down there :)

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 02:11 PM
When you went to interview Vera D. in Sopot, she lost early.
You go to interview Vera Z. in Sydney, and she lost early.
I detect a pattern...:wavey:

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 02:31 PM
When you went to interview Vera D. in Sopot, she lost early.
You go to interview Vera Z. in Sydney, and she lost early.
I detect a pattern...:wavey:When I was supposed to interview Vera in Sopot, she won. The problem was that the media people didn't tell her that she had an interview, so she left the courts :)

I can tell that Bepa was steamed last night. I bet she ordered Lex to Melbourne straight away :o

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 02:35 PM
Anastasia is in Melbourne. That's part of the tour.
You lose, and you move on.

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 02:42 PM
Some players stuck around after losing to train.

It's much easier training on empty courts in Sydney than in Melbourne where they are running qualies.

Bepa should have stuck around today and prepared for Melbourne by training in the heat in Sydney.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 02:49 PM
Higher ranked players often don't want to hang around.
They can get court time at the next tournament.

I like the idea that she's where the other top players are.
Now Vera has to keep working, stay positive, and find her good form.

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 03:20 PM
Higher ranked players often don't want to hang around.
They can get court time at the next tournament.It's much easier to get court time in Sydney. She could have practised with Martina.

I like the idea that she's where the other top players are.I don't care if she is with the other top players. I just want her practising very hard. She has to iron out those DFs!

Now Vera has to keep working, stay positive, and find her good form.At least she hasn't peaked yet, which is the only positive I can draw from this miserable start to the year. She shouldn't have played Hong Kong.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 03:24 PM
Working hard is not the problem. The top players all work very hard.

It's a long year. And it's very hard to get into top form, and stay there.

Vera knows she can play very high level tennis.
The AO is not the whole year. It's one tournament.

Make sure you have fun. Stay healthy and stay positive.

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 03:47 PM
Make sure you have fun. Stay healthy and stay positive.She surely wasn't having fun last night, and I doubt that she's in a positive frame of mind at the moment.

The crowd turned on her when she got a code violation for racquet abuse. Then, towards the end of the match, she mocked the crowd for applauding Zuluaga when she (Bepa) made an error.

That match was very tough for her.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 03:52 PM
The players put a lot of time and effort into their tennis, and their training.
But when the match is over, you can't go back in time - it's over.

Vera has several days to prepare for the AO.
Enjoy each moment:) . And compete on the court:worship: .

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 04:05 PM
My point is, everyone has bad days, or a few off weeks.

The players should enjoy their careers.
Especially those near the top like Vera and Nadia.

They are very, very successful.
But no one wins every match.
No one is in their best form all year. The wins will come.

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 04:10 PM
The players should enjoy their careers.
Especially those near the top like Vera and Nadia.Bepa and Nadia get weighed down by bad performances and other negative experiences. Bepa's loss to Zuluaga, and Nadia's injury concerns will have an effect on them.

They need to have their heads on straight when they take the court in Melbourne, otherwise there could be trouble :sad:

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 04:12 PM
When they go on the court, they should compete.
It's very hard to win any match. They have to try hard, all match.

But when it's over, don't let a loss ruin your week.
It happens.
Play hard. Train hard. But enjoy your free time.

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 04:25 PM
But when it's over, don't let a loss ruin your week.
It happens.
Play hard. Train hard. But enjoy your free time.Bepa's mind doesn't work like that.

However, she does have the remarkable ability to play very well in doubles after heartbreaking loses in singles...

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 04:28 PM
I saw Vera play a long 3 setter with Lena L.
Right after the San Diego semifinal.
Vera could not have played the doubles match if she was distraught about losing the singles match.
And Vera played well in the doubles.

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 04:32 PM
See also the Kremlin Cup doubles and US Open mixed doubles in 2004.

I don't know how she does it, but she should employ the same philosophy when she is behind in a match, rather than getting upset.

Emptiness
Jan 13th, 2005, 04:54 PM
The crowd turned on her when she got a code violation for racquet abuse. Then, towards the end of the match, she mocked the crowd for applauding Zuluaga when she (Bepa) made an error.That girl sure has a temper. Atleast this time she didn't spray them with water, but in that heat maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea.

Sometimes i think Vera has low confidence or self-esteem, or maybe some serious issues.. my in vain attempt to understand what the hell goes on with her. Its just not normal to display the amount of emotions she does during a match. She really has to learn to control herself. http://www.imagelink.org/id30684.gif

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 05:04 PM
Vera is extremely successful. How many players under 21 are doing as well?
Maybe 3? In the whole world?

She is doing tremendously well.

Some might look at Sveta and Maria winning majors. But Vera beat then both in between Wimbledon and NYC.
She's right there, at the very top.

She just has to get into her best form. And peak in week 2 of a major.

katiektc
Jan 13th, 2005, 05:55 PM
She's not at the very top GL. She's near itm yea. but not there yet.
she shouldnt have lost to Zuluaga. i watched Molik's destruction of her and bepa must have played absolutely awful to have lost to her.
TOP players wouldnt let that happen.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 06:00 PM
She made the YEC at age 20. So she is extremely successful.
Only Maria and Sveta are under 21, and ranked ahead of her.

katiektc
Jan 13th, 2005, 06:11 PM
she made the YEC through default and injured players, she wasnt in the best 8.
and lost all 3 matches.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 06:16 PM
There are only 3 under-21 players in the top 15.
And Vera is one of them.

She is way ahead of where most college kids are.
She's earning millions. With years and years of her career in the future.

katiektc
Jan 13th, 2005, 06:21 PM
of course she's ahead of most college kids. because they are in college. and not professional tennis players :lol:
her age shouldnt come in to this at all. maria, as she always wants people to know, is 17 and no. 4.
she is not in the top 10 yet, because she is too inconsistent.
i hope this will change.

pav
Jan 13th, 2005, 06:23 PM
Interesting excerpt from what seems to be Bepa's post Zuluaga match press conference ......................


just ah how I am, I ah don't You know set out to do these things, but I am that way! I am trying to be better (smiles)

Question-- Vera ,all through the match I noticed You seemed to be distracted at times by someone in the crowd,and at times it seemed to effect Your game, can You tell Us anything about this?

Vera... Well Yes um at times when I was concentrating,ah like going to serve, and this Person He would yell out very loud, it um sounded like trying to talk Russian and yelling Vera!

Question... Vera, was this Person known to You ?

Vera... Well ah Yes, in a way,He, He tried to talk to Me at practice courts,and was telling My coach how I should play, I have said to My coach We go to Melbourne as soon as possible now I am out of um, this Tourn..

source: NZ sports press

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 06:24 PM
Age is a part of it. The players ahead of her are adults. Except for Sveta and Maria.
Vera beat Maria twice in 2004. She beat Sveta 6-2, 6-3 in the summer.

Vera is doing great. She just has to stay healthy.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 06:26 PM
Interesting excerpt from what seems to be Bepa's post Zuluaga match press conference ......................


just ah how I am, I ah don't You know set out to do these things, but I am that way! I am trying to be better (smiles)

Question-- Vera ,all through the match I noticed You seemed to be distracted at times by someone in the crowd,and at times it seemed to effect Your game, can You tell Us anything about this?

Vera... Well Yes um at times when I was concentrating,ah like going to serve, and this Person He would yell out very loud, it um sounded like trying to talk Russian and yelling Vera!

Question... Vera, was this Person known to You ?

Vera... Well ah Yes, in a way,He, He tried to talk to Me at practice courts,and was telling My coach how I should play, I have said to My coach We go to Melbourne as soon as possible now I am out of um, this Tourn..

source: NZ sports pressVera doesn't know he exists:D

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2005, 06:34 PM
Vera in Sydney -

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050112/483/xsyd12301121239

Epigone
Jan 13th, 2005, 11:56 PM
Interesting excerpt from what seems to be Bepa's post Zuluaga match press conference ......................LMAOLMAO!!! :haha:

It was true that she looked up into the stands, but I didn't yell out when she was about to serve :angel:

She doesn't know he exists:DShe does, so quit trolling :)

Epigone
Jan 14th, 2005, 12:06 AM
Bepa's quarter at the AO
Kuznetsova (5) vs Qualifer
Schaul vs Bartoli
Diaz Oliva vs Obata
Brandi vs Dulko (29)

Zuluaga (17) vs Sfar
Groenefeld vs Beltrame
Craybas vs Douchevina
Qualifer vs Zvonareva (9)

Farina Elia (15) vs Schruff
Domachowska vs Qualifer
Qualifer vs Srebotnik
Cohen Aloro vs Pierce (24)

Asagoe (28) vs Barna
Li Na vs Granville
Qualifer vs Lee-Waters
Qualifer vs SHARAPOVA (4)

A potential matchup with Vera D. in the second round :bigcry:, and possibly Zuluaga in the third round, then Sveta and Maria.

Lex her better sit her down and review the Sydney match against Zuluaga, cos if Bepa plays like that again, she will be going home early.

Gowza
Jan 14th, 2005, 01:43 AM
a pretty good part of the draw, if vera can play well there is no reason why she cant make an upset against players like kuznetsova and sharapova. but the first match is important, needs to find some rhythm and get rid of the rust. good luck!

pav
Jan 14th, 2005, 06:37 AM
[b]Bepa's quarter at the AO[/b

, cos if Bepa plays like that again, she will be going home eaLex her better sit her down and review the Sydney match against Zuluagarly.
Was She really quite bad?what did You think of Her serving (I didn't see any stats)

Epigone
Jan 14th, 2005, 10:21 AM
Was She really quite bad?what did You think of Her serving (I didn't see any stats)Zuluaga played a very good match, but Bepa's range was out. She was either long, or going wide when trying to hit the lines.

Her serving was also pretty ordinary. At one point in the match, she double faulted, and then walked up to the net, stood there and stared at I don't know what, and then turned around and walked back to serve again.

Weird :confused:

goldenlox
Jan 14th, 2005, 02:07 PM
Bepa's quarter at the AO
Kuznetsova (5) vs Qualifer
Schaul vs Bartoli
Diaz Oliva vs Obata
Brandi vs Dulko (29)

Zuluaga (17) vs Sfar
Groenefeld vs Beltrame
Craybas vs Douchevina
Qualifer vs Zvonareva (9)

Farina Elia (15) vs Schruff
Domachowska vs Qualifer
Qualifer vs Srebotnik
Cohen Aloro vs Pierce (24)

Asagoe (28) vs Barna
Li Na vs Granville
Qualifer vs Lee-Waters
Qualifer vs SHARAPOVA (4)

This is a good draw. Sveta didn't play well in Hong Kong.
And Vera knows she can beat Sveta and Maria.
Obviously, Vera will have to play well.

But she can be the Russian who comes out of this section.

daniela86
Jan 14th, 2005, 03:39 PM
udachi bepa!!!! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: i changed my flag in her honour :p :) i really hope she'll do well here and i've a good feeling about it! ;) ;) Imo, her match against Zuluaga was just an accident like her loss against craybas last year. I definitly think that Bepa is most talented than her and that she'll avenge her sydney's loss if they meet in 3rd round!

and goldenlox, i agree with you 100% , i also think that bepa can be the winner of this quarter!!! :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: i would be so cool and greeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaat!!! :) i know that she's very motivated, hope she will play her best tennis! ;)

goldenlox
Jan 14th, 2005, 04:15 PM
Vera should relax. Just do your best in round 1. Play your normal game.
Maybe we'll get Vera-Vera in round 2.

KV
Jan 14th, 2005, 04:53 PM
Very good chance to meet Vera D. in the second round, just focus.

Emptiness
Jan 14th, 2005, 09:55 PM
But she can be the Russian who comes out of this section.She'll definately have to be on her game and show some mental strength.. Maybe she'll do it.

Daniel
Jan 15th, 2005, 10:19 AM
Vera do your best and show u r one of the best Russians :)

Emptiness
Jan 15th, 2005, 12:02 PM
Tennis Reporters:
10. Vera Zvonareva: Maybe we believe in this physically solid Russian's strokes too much, but we figure that she's worked hard to improve her mental game in the off season and won't go down quietly. Of course, she never goes down without shedding a few tears. While she has beaten Kuznetsova and Sharapova before, her pale complexion will take a pounding in the heat. But a quarterfinal or semifinal showing isn't out of the question.Funny.

Epigone
Jan 15th, 2005, 12:40 PM
To be honest, her mental game looks to be the same as it was last year :sad:

If she used the energy that she wastes putting herself down to build herself up, she'd be a much better player.

Emptiness
Jan 15th, 2005, 01:18 PM
Its still just the beginning of the year, theres plenty of time for her to correct herself. Reading that article on Jidkova i realise how much players go through just to keep competing, and assuming Vera isn't rich from her clothes, how much Vera has gone through. She'll get there eventually, i think, hope.

Is it realise or realize? Sorry i got the memory of a 3 month old child.. :o

Epigone
Jan 15th, 2005, 01:43 PM
assuming Vera isn't rich from her clothes:haha:

She'll get there eventually, i think, hope.I'm sure that she'll get there.

However, the problem is that she has been this way for a long time, and I don't know if there is a quick fix. She'll have to work really hard to prevent relapses.

Is it realise or realize? Sorry i got the memory of a 3 month old child.. :oEither one is acceptable. I think that realized is the American form.

goldenlox
Jan 15th, 2005, 02:20 PM
I don't know if Sydney meant anything to Vera or Anastasia.
But we see what form Vera is in this week.
This is what top players are all about - to do well at the majors.

goldenlox
Jan 15th, 2005, 02:31 PM
Vera plays Nan-Nan Liu, who is 21 and ranked about #180.
Liu lost to Lioudmila in the Beijing qualies.

This is probably the weakest player in the draw.
Vera needs this to get back on the winning track.

Epigone
Jan 15th, 2005, 02:32 PM
Bepa's usual pattern is to cruise until the 4th round, and then :bigcry:

I hope that he keeps it together for longer at the AO this year

goldenlox
Jan 15th, 2005, 02:40 PM
This is a good draw. It will get a little tougher each round.
Vera can get her game together in week 1.

To go far, she will have to beat good players.
That's what she hasn't done enough of at majors.

Epigone
Jan 15th, 2005, 02:53 PM
There always seems to be a huge gap between her performance in the 3rd round compared with the 4th round.

It's almost as though her form starts to disappear at that point :shrug:

goldenlox
Jan 15th, 2005, 02:55 PM
I don't believe that. She lost to the world #1 at the 2004 AO & Wimbledon.
She wasn't 100% healthy at RG.
Lena D. out fought her in NYC.

It's a new year. Vera can establish herself in this AO.
She needs to reach her peak form for the 4th round.

Emptiness
Jan 15th, 2005, 03:00 PM
However, the problem is that she has been this way for a long time, and I don't know if there is a quick fix. She'll have to work really hard to prevent relapses.Yep. I have no illusions that it'll magically fix itself. I think they'll be many relapses. Like Elena with her serve.

Either one is acceptable. I think that realized is the American form.Damn Americans. I should of automatically assumed it was their fault. http://www.imagelink.org/id35114.gif

http://www.archive.newspix.com.au/photolib/images3/lores/17374607.jpg
Thanks for putting tags right on their faces fucktards. http://www.imagelink.org/id30743.gif

Epigone
Jan 15th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Lena D. out fought her in NYC.She went into mental breakdown mode and threw away the match.

Form = playing shots + staying composed

I think she feels like she really has to lift her game as she progresses through the tournament, and that means that she becomes more and more tough on herself. It gets to a point where she just snaps.

It's a new year. Vera can establish herself in this AO.
She needs to reach her peak form for the 4th round.I agree, but the start of the year hasn't looked too promising :Sad:

Epigone
Jan 15th, 2005, 03:07 PM
Thanks for putting tags right on their faces fucktards. http://www.imagelink.org/id30743.gif:lol:

That pic was taken in Sydney on Tuesday (I think).

It's too bad that I didn't have Centre Court tickets :sad:

goldenlox
Jan 15th, 2005, 03:21 PM
Vera was not going to beat Lena in NYC.
Lena was in great form, until she wasn't healthy for the final.

Her draw is excellent. Vera has to play her game, and get to a peak performance level in week 2.

Epigone
Jan 15th, 2005, 03:35 PM
Vera was not going to beat Lena in NYC.
Lena was in great form, until she wasn't healthy for the final.If Lena was in such great form, why did she lose the 1st set 6-1, and only get into the match after Bepa turned into a blubbering mess for no reason at all?

goldenlox
Jan 15th, 2005, 03:37 PM
Lena beat Amelie and Jen in 3 sets also. She's tough to finish off.

Epigone
Jan 15th, 2005, 03:47 PM
They were different circumstances.

Against Mauresmo, she lost the 1st set 6-4, before winning in a 3rd set TB

Against Capriati, she blitzed through the 1st set 6-0, and then won in a 3rd set TB

Against Bepa, she was blitzed in the 1st set, and then Bepa threw the match away. Bepa took herself out of the match, so to say that Bepa was never going to beat Lena is :bs:

goldenlox
Jan 15th, 2005, 03:50 PM
I saw Lena play a lot last summer. Once she got into the match, she was difficult to beat.
She won a lot of 3 setters.

Epigone
Jan 16th, 2005, 05:10 AM
Daily Tennis Exclusive: Women's AO Preview
The Player: Vera Zvonareva
Why she might win: She's healthy
Except: She's Vera Zvonareva. She won't win unless her semifinal and final opponents are even worse basket cases than she is -- and what are the odds of that?

:o

pav
Jan 16th, 2005, 06:52 AM
Daily Tennis Exclusive: Women's AO Preview
The Player: Vera Zvonareva
Why she might win: She's healthy
Except: She's Vera Zvonareva. She won't win unless her semifinal and final opponents are even worse basket cases than she is -- and what are the odds of that?

:o

Yes , a bit of a classic that one isn't it?

deep bass
Jan 16th, 2005, 07:33 AM
Yes , a bit of a classic that one isn't it?

And sadly too true.

Epigone
Jan 16th, 2005, 08:04 AM
Bepa's quarter of the doubles draw
Lisa Raymond USA/Rennae Stubbs AUS (3)
vs.
Martina Muller GER/Julia Schruff GER

Maria Kirilenko RUS/Lina Krasnoroutskaya RUS
vs.
Marion Bartoli FRA/Anna-Lena Groenefeld GER

Tathiana Garbin ITA/Tina Krizan SLO
vs.
Jill Craybas USA/Marlene Weingartner GER

Leanne Baker NZL/Francesca Lubiani ITA
vs.
Eleni Daniilidou GRE/Nicole Pratt AUS (16)


Ting Li CHN/Tiantian Sun CHN (10)
vs.
Marta Marrero ESP/Antonella Serra Zanetti ITA

Caroline Dhenin FRA/Silvija Talaja CRO
vs.
Denisa Chladkova CZE/Lubomira Kurhajcova SVK

Su-Wei Hsieh TPE/Seiko Okamoto JPN
vs.
Bryanne Stewart AUS/Samantha Stosur AUS

Stephanie Cohen-Aloro FRA/Selima Sfar TUN
vs.
Anastasia Myskina RUS/Vera Zvonareva RUS (7)

Not bad at all :D

Stewart and Stosur won the doubles title in Sydney, but that was largely thanks to two walkovers.

Let's hope that Bepa and Nastya won't be giving a walkover, right Nastya? ;)

Emptiness
Jan 17th, 2005, 02:16 AM
Good luck against Nannan Liu. I'm sure Vera been practising hard, as the hulk.

http://img115.exs.cx/img115/6218/veramelb9nm.th.jpg (http://img115.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img115&image=veramelb9nm.jpg)

Epigone
Jan 17th, 2005, 02:23 AM
Good luck against Nannan Liu. I'm sure Vera been practising hard, as the hulk.

http://img115.exs.cx/img115/6218/veramelb9nm.th.jpg (http://img115.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img115&image=veramelb9nm.jpg)Uhm, that's Nadia :p

Emptiness
Jan 17th, 2005, 03:09 AM
GoTennis says otherwise.

But you're right that doesn't look like Vera's boobs or hair. And the shorts are too short.

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/3739/verahats0jg.jpg
How about this one? :)

Epigone
Jan 17th, 2005, 03:52 AM
But you're right that doesn't look like Vera's boobs or hair.You use those as identifying features? :o

How about this one? :)That is Bepa :)

BTW, Bepa held in the opening game by hitting 4 winners, and then broke :yeah:

Epigone
Jan 17th, 2005, 04:06 AM
Bepa hasn't hit a winner in 5 games, and was broken :help:

Focus, and stop making UEs!!!

Gah, and why has she only got 9/17 1st serves in?

What is going on? :banghead:

Emptiness
Jan 17th, 2005, 04:28 AM
Mon Dieu! Merde! Close. The. Set. Out.

I swear if you mess this up i'll make Martin give you a spanking, one he might like but you won't!

Emptiness
Jan 17th, 2005, 04:32 AM
Huh, it work. I should use you as threat more often, Epi. http://www.imagelink.org/id31201.gif

Epigone
Jan 17th, 2005, 04:56 AM
Huh, it work. I should use you as threat more often, Epi. http://www.imagelink.org/id31201.gifYes, I am a great motivator :cool:

Had she listened to GL, all she'd be doing is drinking plenty of fluids :D

Epigone
Jan 17th, 2005, 04:59 AM
Bepa won 6-4 6-2, but played badly!!!!

21 winners vs 33 UEs, and 8 DFs :o

Shoulderpova
Jan 17th, 2005, 05:01 AM
Good luck Vera in next round :)

Epigone
Jan 17th, 2005, 07:05 AM
Bepa plays Vera D in the 2nd round

Vera came back from a set and 5-1 down to win in 3, so this match will have me :scared: until it's finished.

Foot's Fingers
Jan 17th, 2005, 08:35 AM
Congrats to Vera!!!

Epigone,

I hope Vera will play betternext round!!!

KV
Jan 17th, 2005, 09:49 AM
She won comfortably, despite so many DF's and UE's. She'll raise her level very soon. :)

Gowza
Jan 17th, 2005, 11:03 AM
bit of a struggle, hopefully she is playing her way into some form. a win is a win.

Epigone
Jan 17th, 2005, 12:55 PM
If she isn't playing her way into form, I'm going to be tearing my hair out.

Her serve is still badly misfiring

I'm yet to be convinced of any off-season improvements :sad:

KV
Jan 17th, 2005, 01:50 PM
Both Vera's aren't at their best. Would pick Vera Z. in straight sets, happily we've the second round tie between both Vera's. As well Vera D. is a bit away from her best level.

daniela86
Jan 17th, 2005, 04:38 PM
I'm annoyed to hear that bepa didn't play well :sad: :( :( :( :( :( :( :( btw, a win is a win and the essentiel was to win it. An entrance in a tournament is never easy especially for a seed. I hope Bepa will play better and better with match. About Bepa D, i think the two girls know each other very well, Bepa must be already prepared and know what she must expect from Douchevina. Udachi bepaaaaaaaaa!!! :kiss: :hug: :hug: plz win it or i would be very very sad!! :rocker: :) :) :) :)

Epigone
Jan 17th, 2005, 04:41 PM
On paper, Vera Z should win, but I just don't know if Bepa is fully focused at the moment. She can't allow Vera D to get herself into the match.

That means, if Bepa goes out to a 3-0 lead, she shouldn't blow the next 4 games :o

BTW, here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=4752018&postcount=99) are some pics of Bepa in her new adidas outfit :)

rrfnpump
Jan 17th, 2005, 05:54 PM
Vera :)

But I was scared at 3-4 :scared: However, I think Vera will beat Douchevina as Douchevina also doesnt play her best tennis....

Gooooo Bepa :yeah:

(•_•)
Jan 17th, 2005, 06:20 PM
Good luck Bepa in next round! :clap2:

p.s. she looks great in her new outfit! :lick:

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 02:13 PM
The Bepa vs Vera D match is first up on Show Court 3 at 11am

I've been waiting a long time for this match up, but didn't want to see it under these circumstances :sad:

Bepa, do what you have to do ;)

goldenlox
Jan 18th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Vera has a good draw. Both Veras:angel:

daniela86
Jan 18th, 2005, 02:52 PM
davaiiii bepa tomorrow!!! :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: and martin, plz cheer very loud for her! i want her to win it sooo strongly :kiss: :kiss: :hug: :) :cool:

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 03:06 PM
davaiiii bepa tomorrow!!! :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: and martin, plz cheer very loud for her! i want her to win it sooo strongly :kiss: :kiss: :hug: :) :cool:I'm not going to the Australian Open :sad:

I hope that people there will cheer for her because she didn't have a whole lot of support against Zuluaga in Sydney :(

goldenlox
Jan 18th, 2005, 03:10 PM
Vera needs to be focused, because the younger Vera can use this win.
I wish I could see this match. I would definately save the tape.
I have them both on tape. And this Vera is a big favorite.
But you have to do it on the court.

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 03:49 PM
I predict that this match will be a mess, so I don't know if you'd want to keep the tape.

Bepa's serve had better find its mark, otherwise it could be a tough match.

Bepa also has to return well, as Vera D. had something like 6 aces in her match.

goldenlox
Jan 18th, 2005, 03:51 PM
This is an important match. The winner is in the round of 32.
Vera D. has yet to get that far.
Vera Z. will be very disappointed if she doesn't get that far.

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 03:58 PM
This is an important match. The winner is in the round of 32.
Vera D. has yet to get that far.
Vera Z. will be very disappointed if she doesn't get that far.Vera D. made the 3rd round of the US Open last year :)

Bepa will win this match. If not.....I'm not even going to think about that

goldenlox
Jan 18th, 2005, 04:06 PM
I meant Vera D. has yet to get past this high a seed yet. It could be a breakthrough win for her.

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Vera D. could have defeated Capriati at the US Open last year.

This year, Bepa won't give her an easy run.

Vera D. has great retrieving skills, but I think is prone to making UEs in the centre of the court. I don't think that Bepa should force balls at the lines, but should instead get into rallies that will eventually lead to UEs from Vera D.

goldenlox
Jan 18th, 2005, 04:22 PM
Whoever wins this match will have to play well to keep advancing.
Sveta and Maria both started well, and the winning Vera would have to beat a good player, and the both Sveta and Maria.

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 04:34 PM
[GL mode]Grand Slams are full of tough players[/GL mode]

Bepa beat both Sveta and Maria last year

Sure, she is playing like she is on the ITF Circuit, but hopefully her play will pick up soon :)

Get your serve in!!!!!!!!!

goldenlox
Jan 18th, 2005, 04:53 PM
[GL mode]Grand Slams are full of tough players[/GL mode]
!!!!!!!!!You have to beat players like Vera D. to get to the tough players.
Vera D. has to start winning these kinds of matches to become a tough player.

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 05:12 PM
This match should be routine for Bepa, but then again, Bepa is capable of anything :scared:

Bepa's serve is bothering me because the speed hasn't really increased, but the number of DFs is greater.

She needs to sort it out before she faces the good returners. She has to hold serve in big matches

goldenlox
Jan 18th, 2005, 05:16 PM
The winner of this match probably plays Zuluaga, Sveta and Maria.
So Vera will have to find her best form quickly.

pav
Jan 18th, 2005, 07:10 PM
This match should be routine for Bepa, but then again, Bepa is capable of anything :scared:

Bepa's serve is bothering me because the speed hasn't really increased, but the number of DFs is greater.

She needs to sort it out before she faces the good returners. She has to hold serve in big matches

Do We blame Lex?

Emptiness
Jan 18th, 2005, 09:36 PM
Epi you're so mean to Glox. http://www.imagelink.org/id35108.gif

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/2007/r9294091847fj.jpg
I really hate this outfit. It will never be in fashion to look like a bee, i hope.

Did they not interview Vera after her match? It hasn't been posted at the AO site..

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 11:10 PM
Do We blame Lex?No, I think the problems are in Bepa's head. She can tighten up for seemingly no reason,

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 11:17 PM
Epi you're so mean to Glox. http://www.imagelink.org/id35108.gifBut she started it! :p

I like it so much more than the old outfit. That stupid blue and white combination was getting to me.

[quote]Did they not interview Vera after her match? It hasn't been posted at the AO site..They didn't even publish an interview when she won the US Open Mixed Doubles title :o

They'll probably publish one if there are lots of tear :rolleyes:

Epigone
Jan 18th, 2005, 11:47 PM
Bepa lost the first set 6-3 :help:

pav
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:06 AM
VD seems to be holding serve far easier than VZ :(

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:16 AM
Vera Douchevina defeated Bepa 6-3 6-3 :shrug: :bigcry:

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:18 AM
13 winners to 27 UEs, with 41% of 1st serves in, and 11 DFs

pav
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:19 AM
No matter how good Vera D. played, that was still a terrible effort from Bepa Z!

Jamesss
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:20 AM
She was meant to "win" :mad: .

oh cripes look at those stats...:scared:

Emptiness
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Vera....

What happened?!

http://www.imagelink.org/id37694.gif

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:30 AM
Argh, she lost the match on a DF :o

And not just any DF, but a really ugly DF that hit the top of the netcord and bounced long :bigcry:

I don't know how long I've been going on about her serve, but it's a mess :hysteric:

Jamesss
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Yeah they just showed it...very ugly!

VeraZ didn't look like she cared anymore. :sad:

beauty_is_pink
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:32 AM
:sad:
better luck next time Vera.. too many DFs :eek:

Nastyafan
Jan 19th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Verchik:sad: :bigcry::fiery:
what is wrong with you this year?:confused:
and she didn't look upset at the end, doesn't she care anymore?
you were the only my fav in the bottom half :crying2:

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 01:39 AM
If you thought Bepa's YEC top was bad, check out her bad taste in towels on Getty Images :o

It looks like the colours on the Australian Open website, but even so...

Bepa's to do list
1. Stop having meltdowns
2. Fix serve
3. Consult doctor about colour blindness :tape:

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 01:43 AM
Zvonereva Loses Battle of the Veras
Wednesday, 19 January, 2005
Vera Zvonereva, the No.9 seed, has crashed out of the Australian Open in the second-round, losing to fellow Russian Vera Douchevina.

In a contest lasting just 61-minutes, Zvonareva served up 11 double faults and committed 27 unforced errors against her namesake.

It was a disappointing result for Zvonereva, just the sixth seed lost from the women's draw, who reached the fourth-round of Australian Open 2004.

Match Facts
• Douchevina won 60 points to Zvonereva's 44.
• Zvonereva clocked the fastest serve of the match at 176 km/h.
• Douchevina converted five of seven break point opportunities.
link (http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/news/reports/2005-01-19/200501191106098175609.html)

They can't even spell Bepa's name correctly :rolleyes:

Foot's Fingers
Jan 19th, 2005, 02:27 AM
Vera :sad:

It's so sad

Hope she will take some weeks for rest and regrouping

Pls Vera!!! You should be mental stronger!

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 03:32 AM
http://img86.exs.cx/img86/9967/stats0oj.jpg

Her serving was terrible, and she won only 38% of receiving points

She converted 100% of break points, but only managed to bring up two :sad:

I don't know what to say :bigcry:

Almalyk
Jan 19th, 2005, 04:07 AM
Vera! So dissapointing - and you made the 4th round last year! i hope you still decide to play doubles with Anastasia - you need the practice!

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 04:09 AM
http://img116.exs.cx/img116/8408/mel1200118211024x7682qi.jpg

Russia's Vera Zvonareva reacts to a lost point during her second round match against compatriot Vera Douchevina at the Australian Open at Melbourne Park, Melbourne, Australia, Wednesday, Jan. 19, 2005. Douchevina defeated the ninth seeded Zvonareva in straight sets 6-3 6-3. (AP Photo/Mark Baker)

This racquet probably ended up trashed :o

Emptiness
Jan 19th, 2005, 04:18 AM
Blah, this performance just proves how Russian Vera is. :o

i hope you still decide to play doubles with Anastasia - you need the practice!I think it would be better if Vera pulls out of doubles on goes work on her serve!

They can't even spell Bepa's name correctly :rolleyes:Aww Martin, don't worry i heard Kuznetsova called Kuznetsoff on the news. :tape:

http://img19.exs.cx/img19/6763/veratowels0qf.jpg
What is Vera trying to doing with those towels? I guess now she can cry like a baby under those without any scrutiny.

pav
Jan 19th, 2005, 04:25 AM
Blah, this performance just proves how Russian Vera is. :o

I think it would be better if Vera pulls out of doubles on goes work on her serve!

Aww Martin, don't worry i heard Kuznetsova called Kuznetsoff on the news. :tape:

http://img19.exs.cx/img19/6763/veratowels0qf.jpg
What is Vera trying to doing with those towels? I guess now she can cry like a baby under those without any scrutiny.
She could be auditioning for a part in the remake of Laurence of Arabia!

Gowza
Jan 19th, 2005, 04:30 AM
bugger i wanted to see vera play on the tele in this tourn. if only the foxtel digital guy had come a couple of hours earlier to hook us up and then i would have seen the 2 vera's going head to head. not such a good tourn but vera wasnt playing well going into the open, she needs to find some sort of form soon.

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 04:38 AM
Blah, this performance just proves how Russian Vera is. :oIt's incredible how she can pull off performances like this.

It's like Bepa and Nadia are competing to see who can have the biggest unintentional flameout :o

Going into the AO, I was less confident than I've been before many other tournaments because I wasn't happy with her preparation.

I think it would be better if Vera pulls out of doubles on goes work on her serve![GL mode on]The game of doubles involves serving[/GL mode off], so she can practise serving while training for doubles.

If her singles ranking is going to take a beating, I'd like to see her doubles ranking go up. They lost in the 1st round last year, so they can pick up some good points this year.


http://img19.exs.cx/img19/6763/veratowels0qf.jpg
What is Vera trying to doing with those towels? I guess now she can cry like a baby under those without any scrutiny.I saw another pic in which she had the towel over her head, but she didn't look to be crying.

I think that I'd probably be crying if I had to see those towels up close. They are hideous!

Emptiness
Jan 19th, 2005, 05:05 AM
Ahs don't mention Nadia! ...I've just noticed how appropriate the forum name is. Lets hope one self-destructing Russian is enough for one tournament.

I don't think it would help Vera much to compete against those players. It doesn't seem like she has the mindset right now, and doubles doesn't really mean shit. Better for her to relax her body and mind and prepare for the next tournament.

I think that I'd probably be crying if I had to see those towels up close. They are hideous!Maybe shes just using it to deflect the glare from her outfit.

Epigone
Jan 19th, 2005, 05:54 AM
Ahs don't mention Nadia! ...I've just noticed how appropriate the forum name is. Lets hope one self-destructing Russian is enough for one tournament.Amen to that!

Maybe shes just using it to deflect the glare from her outfit.The light is scared away by the ugly pattern and colours :D

BTW, Bepa is sitting at #2 on the double fault leaders list with 19 in two matches :banghead:

Emptiness
Jan 19th, 2005, 07:03 AM
Hey i found something that might cheer you up a little. :)

http://sports.sina.com.cn/star/zvonareva_vera/index.shtml
Do you know about this? If not i can tell you how to work the site.