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Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 03:37 AM
For people who are interested, here (http://membres.lycos.fr/boots/hpbimg/Moscou2004/dd1.html) are the final 3 minutes of the match. It features a few UEs from Vera, but it's still great to see her in action :)

Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 03:51 AM
Thank you for the link, Epigone. :)No problem :)

The clip also shows that Bepa doesn't need to show skin to look great ;)

aussiedude
Oct 12th, 2004, 04:32 AM
No problem :)

The clip also shows that Bepa doesn't need to show skin to look great ;)
True...

But just imagine Bepa in what her partner was wearing. :hearts:

Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 05:07 AM
True...

But just imagine Bepa in what her partner was wearing. :hearts:No, I don't want to think about Vera wearing that outfit

Smoking is bad for the heart. Eating fatty foods is bad for the heart. And thinking about Vera wearing that outfit is also bad for the heart :lol: :o

Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 08:06 AM
Vera defeated Dechy 6-0 6-2

It was a demolition!

Vera was serving at 6-0 5-2 40-15, and it went to deuce, but then she played a great point and then sealed the game with a served that forced Dechy into an error.

She is sticking around for ages to sign autographs :angel:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2004, 08:11 AM
great stuff Vera :banana: :D :) :yeah:
awesome performance ;)

good luck in r2 now :)
she only gains 8 pts on her ranks though

mandy7
Oct 12th, 2004, 08:20 AM
Vera defeated Dechy 6-0 6-2

It was a demolition!

Vera was serving at 6-0 5-2 40-15, and it went to deuce, but then she played a great point and then sealed the game with a served that forced Dechy into an error.

She is sticking around for ages to sign autographs :angel:
i really like dechy and all
but i like vera so much better
so woo :woohoo: hoo
great job!

Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 08:27 AM
Vera hit some beautiful winners, and was overpowering Dechy.

Here are the stats. Sorry, but I didn't enough time to write down Dechy's, although I can tell you that she had 22UEs.
Aces 0

DF 2

% 1st serves in 51

% points won on 1st serve 61

% points won on 2nd serve 80

% BPs converted 83

% net approaches won 66

UEs 16

total points won 55

max serve speed (km/h) 167

pav
Oct 12th, 2004, 08:48 AM
Thanks for the stats, how was Her % of 1st serves in?

Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 09:06 AM
Thanks for the stats, how was Her % of 1st serves in?Oops, I'm sorry, I left that out :o. She got 51% of 1st serves in. I'll edit the post :)

Daniel
Oct 12th, 2004, 10:19 AM
Well done Vera :D

cool_olga
Oct 12th, 2004, 02:26 PM
You lost GL, hehe.

goldenlox
Oct 12th, 2004, 02:35 PM
You lost GL, hehe. Are you drunk?

That was a good win from Vera, who lost to Dechy at Indian Wells. Now she plays Sprem, an interesting match.

KV
Oct 12th, 2004, 03:10 PM
Fantastic Verunchick :D

goldenlox
Oct 12th, 2004, 04:10 PM
Vera lost to Sprem the two times they faced last year. I'm hoping to see a lot of all Russian matchups, so Vera needs to win this, and play the Nastya-Lena L. winner.

Frank
Oct 12th, 2004, 04:11 PM
Congrats to Vera! :D

Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Vera's pic is on the homepage of wtatour.com :)

It's good to see her getting some exposure :clap2:

goldenlox
Oct 12th, 2004, 05:50 PM
I'd like to see her play some exhibitions, like Hong Kong. Her agent should get to work.

Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 05:56 PM
I'd like to see her play some exhibitions, like Hong Kong. Her agent should get to work.Like Hong Kong, but not Hong Kong. Hong Kong is on at the same time as the Gold Coast tournament, so Vera had better not play there.

goldenlox
Oct 12th, 2004, 05:58 PM
There are a lot of exhibitions. I don't know if Vera wants to play them. But when you reach the top, exhibitions, endorsements, and appearance fees are there.
Vera is very close to that. It's the next step, after she has a big major.

Epigone
Oct 12th, 2004, 06:05 PM
Vera doesn't deserve to play second fiddle to Maria at some hokey exhibition tournament. Look at how Venus is being billed below Maria in Hong Kong. Vera doesn't need that.

The off-season is the time that Vera can rest. Reading her interviews, you can see that she values life outside of tennis, but when she steps inside the white lines, it's a matter of life and death.

Vera should rest her body, read, surf the internet, go out with friends in Moscow, and just generally live the life of a normal young woman. Sure, she'll have to stay match-fit, but she should have fun, rather than work, during the off-season.

cool_olga
Oct 12th, 2004, 06:31 PM
Are you drunk?Noo I have my mind here. Just all this things you were saying before I mean, I guess this one time you weren't right.

Few pics here I'll try take some good ones tomorrow http://www.inside-tennis.net/index.php?action=gallery&id=55

cool_olga
Oct 13th, 2004, 07:53 AM
Vera is walking with funny black man all the time. Dunno who's he.

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 08:04 AM
Vera is walking with funny black man all the time. Dunno who's he.That's her coach :p

His name is Lex. You should try to talk with him ;)

Lady
Oct 13th, 2004, 08:15 AM
Yes, it's her coach.

She was asked about him in the press conference! ;)
Ola, you could have asked me as well! lol ;)

cool_olga
Oct 13th, 2004, 01:23 PM
They look funny together :p And easy to see it's good relationship :yeah:

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 01:40 PM
Vera's match with K-Lina has started

The h2h is bad, but Vera should take out this match

Udachi Bepa!!!

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 02:10 PM
K-Lina took the 1st set 6-4

Vera waited until the 10th game to get broken :(

Still, her serve looks strong, and if she can convert a BP chance and consolidate, she'll be back in the match :)

goldenlox
Oct 13th, 2004, 02:11 PM
Sprem is a good player. This figured to be a tough match. And Vera might be off her best form of this summer, when she beat Sveta and Maria, and almost beat Nastya.

foreva lindsay
Oct 13th, 2004, 02:17 PM
Come on vera!!!

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 02:21 PM
Sprem is a good player. This figured to be a tough match. And Vera might be off her best form of this summer, when she beat Sveta and Maria, and almost beat Nastya.Vera has served some DFs :(, and her winning % on her 2nd serve is in the 40% range. However, her 1st serve % is 64%, which is an improvement on previous matches.

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 02:37 PM
Bepa is back in business, taking the 2nd set 6-2 :dance:

In an impressive sequence of points, she broke to love, then held to love :worship:

Let's hope she keeps firing :)

Frank
Oct 13th, 2004, 02:44 PM
Take the 3rd set now. :)

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 03:15 PM
Bepa won 4-6 6-2 6-3

A bit too close for comfort, but a great win!

goldenlox
Oct 13th, 2004, 03:16 PM
It's good to get to the quarters. Now Vera has to raise her game, to go further.

Frank
Oct 13th, 2004, 03:19 PM
She showed some mental toughness today...:)

Congrats and good luck in the next round!

goldenlox
Oct 13th, 2004, 03:21 PM
Vera's going to play the winner of Nastya/Lena L. Both have beaten Vera the last time Vera played them, like Sprem.

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 03:31 PM
Match stats
1st serve % 63%
Aces 7
DFs 5
Pts won on 1st serve 39/51 = 76%
Pts won on 2nd serve 14/29 = 48%
UEs 36
BP converted 5/15 = 33%
Net approaches 1/4 = 25%
Total points won 100
Max serve speed 177km/h

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 13th, 2004, 03:43 PM
boy was that a battle
Vera :yeah: :D :)
great win :) :)
long tough rallies, Vera got back into 3rd, then got stronger and stronger

setmatch
Oct 13th, 2004, 03:47 PM
yea that was tough :)
go Vera :)
go bbe :)
win next match, ok? :)
dont be nervous, ok? :)
long tough rallies, ok? :)

Nastyafan
Oct 13th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Congrats Vera great fight.:D
And she already doesn't show her frustration:crying2: when she is behind,:yeah:

Good luck in doubles with Nastya,:hug: too bad I can't wish the same in singles if you play her:fiery:

KV
Oct 13th, 2004, 04:03 PM
Bepa took her revenge, yet again into QF's. :D

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 05:39 PM
I finally got to see video of Vera's coach during the KC telecast (I'd only seen one pic of him before) ;)

Is it just me, or was he wearing his cap at an angle? Anyway, he looks like a cool guy, and I'm looking forward to talking to him about Vera. I found out when I went to Sydney that you can learn a lot about players by speaking with their coaches. I hope that he keeps doing a good job with Vera because she is playing some great tennis at the moment.

ghosts
Oct 13th, 2004, 06:14 PM
Good luck in doubles with Nastya,:hug:
Nastyafan, they play vs Husarova/Maleeva :rolleyes:

cool_olga
Oct 13th, 2004, 06:28 PM
martin you know what's her coach's name? He seems to be really cool.
Good match today from Vera.

few pics here http://www.inside-tennis.net/index.php?action=gallery&id=58

Epigone
Oct 13th, 2004, 06:42 PM
martin you know what's her coach's name? He seems to be really cool.:wavey: Ola, his name is Lex Carrington :)

Nastyafan
Oct 13th, 2004, 07:07 PM
Nastyafan, they play vs Husarova/Maleeva :rolleyes:
Really? I didn't know but I have said: when Nastya is on court, no matter who is on the other side, even if it's my sister:inlove: . Sorry Maggie.:sad:

Nastyafan
Oct 13th, 2004, 11:00 PM
You seemed to notice Lindsay, when you made those stupid remarks about her BEFORE the Filderstadt SF.:scratch: She is sooooo big, how couldn't I notice her, but what's the connection here, CLEVER man (woman):confused:

smarties
Oct 13th, 2004, 11:15 PM
I think her coach is from Washington and she trains there as well, but I think he is her travelling coach.

Emptiness
Oct 13th, 2004, 11:49 PM
Yay! Congrats on the win. She proved that shes a step above Sprem. Still needs to find the next level because it really was too close for comfort.

Good luck in doubles. :yeah:

Hantuchov
Oct 14th, 2004, 03:22 AM
Really? I didn't know but I have said: when Nastya is on court, no matter who is on the other side, even if it's my sister:inlove: . Sorry Maggie.:sad:

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 05:36 AM
Thanks to JLDementieva for telling me about this video of Bepa and Sveta at the zoo in Berlin.

Go here (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/tenniswta/Dementieva/indexdementieva.html), and it's the top video.

How cool is Bepa??? :cool:

mandy7
Oct 14th, 2004, 06:32 AM
Thanks to JLDementieva for telling me about this video of Bepa and Sveta at the zoo in Berlin.

Go here (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/tenniswta/Dementieva/indexdementieva.html), and it's the top video.

How cool is Bepa??? :cool:
i'll watch it as soon as i get home...
but to answer your question....

very cool! :cool:

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 01:26 PM
Nastya just defeated Elena L 2-6 6-1 6-0

It's a scary scoreline, but Nastya's stats weren't too pretty.

This is the matchup for which I was hoping. This is a chance for Vera to take the biggest victory of her career.

If she serves consistently and controls her groundstrokes, I think that she will win this match.

No fear, baby!!! :D

Emptiness
Oct 14th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Well it certainly should be a good match.

I think i'm going to play hooky and watch their doubles. :lol:

goldenlox
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:08 PM
Vera-Nastya in Moscow. Should be a great match! :bowdown: :boxing: :dog:

Frank
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:09 PM
Very interesting match! Vera should be able to win this, as long as she keeps herself together. :)

goldenlox
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:12 PM
When they played in San Diego, it was a classic!:drool: :woohoo:

Frank
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Let's hope it'll be another classic! :)

With Vera winning of course...:p

goldenlox
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:20 PM
This is what I love. Important all Russian matches.:hearts: :bounce: :drive: :D :music:

Frank
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Yep. I know.

Uhm...Have you discovered there is something like a smiley list or something like that? :p

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:40 PM
I think that playing at home will lift Vera more than it will lift Nastya, and given that I think that Vera is capable of beating Nastya under normal circumstances, I think that Vera has an even better chance right now.

goldenlox
Oct 14th, 2004, 02:44 PM
I think Nastya wants to defend her title, and fight for Russian #1.:boxing:

So Vera should expect a war.:armed: :singer: :armed:

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Vera's corner is ready for war :armed:

This draw is like a fairytale :)

In the 1st round Vera took out the player who prevented her from entering the top 10 at IW.

In the 2nd round, she took out a player who twice denied her finals appearances on clay last year.

In the QF, she will take out the #1 ranked Russian, and settle the score from San Diego, which was a match that could have mentally destroyed her.

In the SF, she'll take out a player against whom she has a 0-4 record this season.

In the final, she'll take out Elena Bovina, the player she defeated for her 1st KC maindraw win in 2000, but who defeated her in 2002.

To Russians, this is the fifth Slam, and Vera will take it :D

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Bepa and Nastya lead 6-1 0-2*

Nastya was just broken :(

I think that the longer they stay on court, the better for Bepa in the singles match

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 04:10 PM
Vera/Nastya defeated Husarova/Maleeva 6-1 6-4 :woohoo:

Andrew.
Oct 14th, 2004, 04:12 PM
Yay Vera.

She can beat Myskina tomorrow. She jsut needs to forget about the match points she has da, and focus on the ones that she will have. ;)

KV
Oct 14th, 2004, 04:13 PM
Nastya & Vera good doubles win :)

goldenlox
Oct 14th, 2004, 04:50 PM
They won 6-1, 6-4. Now an all Russian semi with Nadia/Lena B.!

:bounce: :woohoo:

But first, an all Russian QF, Vera-Nastya!!

:singer: :boxing: :banana: :woohoo:

Frank
Oct 14th, 2004, 04:51 PM
Congrats! :D

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Bepa is going for the double crown. Nobody shall stand in her way :cool:

If I was in the crowd, I'd yell the roof off the dump! :D

Frank
Oct 14th, 2004, 05:13 PM
Yes! Go for the double crown! :D

Vera deserves it...^_^

goldenlox
Oct 14th, 2004, 05:16 PM
Vera, Nastya, Lena B., and Lena D. are all still alive in both singles and doubles.
Vera has only singles tomorrow. Then she and Nastya are partners again!

:hug: :smooch:

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 05:23 PM
Friday, October 15, 2004
Central court

Start Time 11:00 - Bovina vs Williams

Not before 13:00 - Stepanek vs Davydenko

Not before 15:00 - Kuznetsova vs Dementieva

followed by - Zvonareva vs Myskina

goldenlox
Oct 14th, 2004, 05:38 PM
:bounce: :woohoo:

An all Russian QF, Vera-Nastya!!

:singer: :boxing: :banana: :woohoo:
This is one of the biggest matches of Vera's career!

:yippee: :woohoo:

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 05:48 PM
This is one of the biggest matches of Vera's career!

:yippee: :woohoo:This is a chance for Vera to take the biggest victory of her careerGL, given the circumstances, I think that this match is bigger than the QF against Nadia at RG :eek:

Vera has a chance to take out the #1 Russian player in front of her family and friends :cool:

goldenlox
Oct 14th, 2004, 05:52 PM
GL, given the circumstances, I think that this match is bigger than the QF against Nadia at RG :eek:

Vera has a chance to take out the #1 Russian player in front of her family and friends :cool:
The points and money were bigger at RG 2003, but a win tomorrow would make a statement - that Vera can compete for Russian #1 next year.

Epigone
Oct 14th, 2004, 06:03 PM
The points and money were bigger at RG 2003, but a win tomorrow would make a statement - that Vera can compete for Russian #1 next year.GL, Vera doesn't play for points and money. Vera plays for the love of the game.

Playing and winning in front of her home crowd means the world to Vera. A win against Nastya would be her biggest singles win.

I don't think that it would top her US Open Mixed Doubles title, but she would certainly cherish the win forever.

It's bedtime (4am) :zzz:, so more Vera talk from me will have to wait for a few hours :D

sPAWrty
Oct 14th, 2004, 06:06 PM
I like it this way:

Vera's corner is ready for war :armed:

This draw is like a fairytale :)

In the 1st round Vera took out the player who prevented her from entering the top 10 at IW.

In the 2nd round, she took out a player who twice denied her finals appearances on clay last year.

In the QF, she will take out the #1 ranked Russian, and settle the score from San Diego, which was a match that could have mentally destroyed her.

In the SF, she'll take out a player against whom she has a 0-4 record this season.

In the SF , she'll take out the #1 in the world, whom she has a 0-4 record this season. :cool:

In the final, she'll take a contrrevenge on Venus Williams, who demolished her in Wimby 2003, Charleston and Warsaw 2004.
:devil:

the cat
Oct 14th, 2004, 11:08 PM
Come on Vera, get that breakthrough win against Myskina! :D

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 12:14 AM
Grand Slam Mixed Doubles Titles are about as meaningful as a Tier V doubles title.Stop devaluing Bepa's title :mad:

I'm sure that Miss Bovina would be happy to know what you think of her AO title. She should place you on probation :p

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 01:17 AM
She doesn't give a crap about her AO title, though.If Lena wants to diss a title won in Australia, she can stay away from us in January :p

I think that Vera is very happy with her title, and that's all that matters :)

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 12:00 PM
Vera's match follows Elena D vs Sveta on Centre Court.

Ola said that Vera has trained twice today, while Nastya has trained once. I hope that this extra practice means that she serves in the mid to high 60% range, and paints the lines with her groundstrokes.

Vera should approach this match with a clear head because the pressure is on Nastya to perform. Nastya needs to prove herself as #1 Russian, and to defend her title, while Vera is there to put on a show for her home crowd. Vera needs to let her shot flow freely, and cause the upset.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:Удачи Вера!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 01:21 PM
It's showtime for Vera :cool:

From Getting to Know...Vera Zvonareva (http://www.wtatour.com/gettingtoknow/stories/gtk_Vera_Zvonareva_2769_rx.asp)
If you ever daydream about what you're going to achieve in your professional tennis career, what is the one thing (a tournament victory, ranking goal) you hope will come true?
Winning the Kremlin Cup in Moscow, my home city. She's sooooo sweet :awww: :hug:

Vera, go out there and take the next big step towards realising your dream!!!

Focus, believe in yourself, and win this match!!!

Udachi!!!

Frank
Oct 15th, 2004, 01:24 PM
Awwwwwww.....:angel:

I'll be cheering for her even harder now! :D

Go get them!

Mathijs
Oct 15th, 2004, 01:27 PM
DAVAI Vera, the very best of luck today, although it's gonna be tough buttt hopefully you can win!!!!!! :yeah:

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 01:55 PM
Bepa won the 1st set 6-4

She served for the set at 5-2, and had a SP on Nastya's serve at 5-3

Don't let her into the game like Elena L did yesterday

Keep your foot to the floor :drive:

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 02:06 PM
Some telling stats from the 1st set

1st serve % 62% for Vera vs 51% for Nastya

UEs 13 for Vera vs 19 for Nastya

Vera needs to maintain that high 1st serve % because she is playing a good returning game, so she needs to consolidate her breaks.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 02:28 PM
Bepa just lost the 2nd set 0-6 :sad:

That was her 1st bagel of the year :(

Basically, she has hit far too many UEs - 20 in that set vs only 10 for Nastya

She missed a BP in the 1st game, and was then broken. She missed another BP in the 3rd game, and was again broken in the following game.

Bepa's body language isn't too bad, and I'm sure that she will fight back and win. There will be no repeat of the Nastya vs Elena L match from yesterday

Bepa, chase your dream!!!

Frank
Oct 15th, 2004, 02:31 PM
:eek:

I hope she can recover from that blow...:o

Frank
Oct 15th, 2004, 02:36 PM
Not good. 0-3 for Myskina now...:(

Frank
Oct 15th, 2004, 02:53 PM
Vera is back in business! :D

3-4 for Myskina now, but Vera is serving...:)

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:16 PM
Bepa lost 6-4 0-6 5-7 :sad:

She saved 3 MPs, but couldn't hold off Nastya

Simply too many UEs in the final two sets

The last few games made me feel sick, and I'm :crying2: right now

Frank
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:19 PM
So dissapointing! :(

Vera made a good comeback and then she gets broken in the last game of the match...:(

Congrats to Nastya...

Better luck next year for Vera!

KV
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:22 PM
Lost a very close match. Vera must feel disappointed, but doesn't have herself to blame. She lost to the reigning Kremlin Cup champion.

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:27 PM
Another close one, like San Diego. Vera has to stay positive. It's never easy.
Now Vera plays doubles with Nastya.

pav
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Sad for Vera! at least She recovered and fought back after that horrible 2nd set

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Vera can still make the YEC. She can do a lot of great things. Part of being a great player is to shake off the bad moments. And not let it affect your focus.
Vera has to go to Zurich, and play her best. After doubles here.

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:47 PM
Serena and Maria will there. Vera has to beat Jennifer and Venus.

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:50 PM
"another fine mess" :o
Vera, another chance to #10 thrown out of window

she nearly got it into a final set TB though.

Vera, u got to control your emotions
how many times are we gonna say this.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:56 PM
GL, she won't make YEC. The End

Vera, u got to control your emotions
how many times are we gonna say this.You should have seen me in the last few games of the match. It's like Vera was channeling her emotions into me, complete with the waterworks :o

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 03:56 PM
This has been the story of Vera's year. Her only big win was against Sharapova in Montreal, and Maria hasn't done much since Wimbledon.
And beating Sveta in San Diego. When Sveta was off her form.
Vera has to learn how to finish a match with her best tennis.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 04:12 PM
Vera was ranked #18 in points earned at Grand Slams this year. Disappointing is the word that comes to mind. There is no doubting her talent, and I think that she can rally with anyone. It's just that she pushes balls wide when she is going for the lines a little too often.

I have great hopes for next year. She won't have mega points to defend, her game will be tuned over the off season, and her head will be sooooooo much better.

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 04:14 PM
I haven't given up on this year. Jennifer isn't playing. Venus is off form.
Vera can still play in L.A.

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 04:17 PM
Vera has about 2100 points in 22 events. Capriati has 2300 in 11 events.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 04:19 PM
I gave up on it after to loss to Elena D at the US Open.

Vera has got so few quality points that it's not funny. That's the area in which I think that she'll improve a lot next year. One 4th round win at a GS would have done wonders for her points tally. I believe that Vera will advance past the 4th round in each GS next year, so she will rake in the points :)

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 04:22 PM
Vera could have beaten Nastya in San Diego. She could have won the first set from Mauresmo in Montreal.
She's not far from the top 10. She has to play well on big points. Consistently.
And that is very hard to do.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 04:47 PM
It's all mental. The mental aspect of her game will be improved before the French Open next year. She'll be in the top 10, and she'll be taking down players all around her.

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 04:49 PM
I think Vera, Nadia, and Lena B. can all play as well as the top 4 Russians. They have just as much game.
They have to play well at the majors. And take advantage of any good draws.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 05:09 PM
I plan to give Vera a book that will solve her problems. As a thank you, she will give me a shoutout when she wins her first GS singles title :)

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 05:14 PM
After the AO, 2004 was wide open. Serena and Justine had won 8 straight majors. Not since January.
Venus and Kim were in the finals of those 8 majors. Not after the AO.
So the last 3 majors were wide open.
2005 could be much, much tougher at the majors.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 05:27 PM
After the AO, 2004 was wide open. Serena and Justine had won 8 straight majors. Not since January.
Venus and Kim were in the finals of those 8 majors. Not after the AO.
So the last 3 majors were wide open.
2005 could be much, much tougher at the majors.As a qualifier in 2002, Vera made it to the 4th round of the French Open and took a set off Serena. She is no pushover. She can play well on any surface, and once her head is sorted, she'll go make the QF and beyond at the slams. Vera will only go forward from here. She has a great future.

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 05:29 PM
This year was a great opportunity. Nastya, Maria, and Sveta will see that's hard to repeat.
Especially if Serena, Justine, Kim, and Lindsay are all healthy.
You have to take advantage of every opportunity that you get.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 05:39 PM
When Vera is prepared, she'll lauch an assault on the Slams. I am not worried for her in the slightest. Girl has got game, but she needs to apply herself.

What did Vera do to Kim at the US Open in 2002?
Who lead Nadia in the 3rd set of the QF at the French Open in 2003?
Who had Lena D on the ropes at the US Open in 2004 before breaking down at the start of the 2nd set?

Vera will sort out her head and dispatch top players. I know it's taking time, but it will happen

goldenlox
Oct 15th, 2004, 05:48 PM
I think Vera is capable. I could see at Wimbledon how important it is to focus. You have to try to win every point that you can. And be ready to take advantage of a bad game by your opponent.
The best players can keep their mind on the current point. That's very hard to do.

Epigone
Oct 15th, 2004, 06:17 PM
Vera is usually quite good at defending against BPs, but she will crack after awhile, and that's the opportunity that top players will take to pounce. Like you say, it's mental, and that's where Vera can be helped.

I hope to talk to Lex Carrington about his plans to improve this aspect of Vera's game. A little more focus, and the match against Nastya may have had a different outcome.

KV
Oct 15th, 2004, 07:44 PM
Vera's only 20 y.o so she's enough time to beat the top players. Yeah, Bepa's getting closer to def. them. She started as a 17 y.o to play 3 setters against Serena & Kim. Against Serena there wasn't much more to do. But the 3 sets loss to Kim, yeah there Bepa had the chance. The harder hitting came from her not Kim.

pav
Oct 15th, 2004, 10:04 PM
Vera will find the balance between those fascinating cool blue eyes, and the equally fascinating sometimes overheating computer behind them,then everyplayer lookout! just following Her on the scoreboard isn't good for the heart! wouldn't swap Her though :)

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:18 AM
Are there any Russian speakers who would be able to find interviews that Vera has given this week, or articles about her week in Moscow? Thank you :)

If not, I'll have to do some searching for myself :scared:

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:40 AM
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Мыскина расстроила Звонареву :sad:

Заключительный женский четвертьфинальный матч на Кубке Кремля между россиянками Верой Звонаревой и Анастасией Мыскиной получился самым напряженным. В результате победу одержала более опытная Мыскина - 4:6, 6:0, 7:5.
На пресс-конференции после матча Анастасия Мыскина, испытывавшая в последнее время некоторое недомогание из-за простуды, призналась: «Мне было тяжело войти в игру. Пока я «продышалась», прошел первый сет. Во втором моя игра улучшилась, а в третьей партии при счет 3:0 получился долгий розыгрыш, я отдала это очко, и соперница почувствовала уверенность, а так матч мог закончиться гораздо быстрее. Что касается русских дерби, то, честно говоря, я не люблю играть с нашими, всегда получаются сложные матчи. Но, в принципе, у меня со всеми положительный баланс личных встреч и мне без разницы с кем играть, я выхожу и стараюсь победить. А вот как раз мою будущую соперницу по полуфиналу американку Линдсей Дэвенпорт я еще ни разу не обыгрывала. Конечно, в Москве обстановка совсем иная, чем на остальных турнирах, и по идее, я знаю ее игру. Нужно просто побыстрее адаптироваться к матчу и главное - не делать глупых ошибок».
Анастасия также прокомментировала грядущий Финал четырех Кубка Федераций, который в скором времени пройдет в Москве. «Мы могли бы выиграть и в прошлом году, но уступили француженкам. Теперь же их нет в полуфинале, тем более Амели Моресмо получила травму, - отметила Мыскина. - У нас сплоченная команда и, думаю, в этот раз все должно получиться. Тяжело загадывать на следующий год, но если мы сейчас выиграем Кубок Федераций, то возможно я сама не буду больше играть за сборную, ведь эти матчи сильно выбивают из турнирного графика».
Вера Звонарева была очень расстроена своим поражением: «В каждом гейме была борьба. Конечно же, я настраивалась на победу. Не стоит играть турнир, если ты не чувствуешь, что можешь выиграть. Но если абстрагироваться, то четвертьфинал турнира первой категории - это хороший результат. Буду настраиваться на пару, которую я играю вместе с Настей». Как передает корреспондент РТР-Спорт.Ru, Вера также вкратце рассказала журналистам о своих планах на конец сезона. «Сначала я поеду в Цюрих, потом в Линц и, если получится попасть в «восьмерку» лучших, то и в Лос-Анджелес», - поделилась теннисистка.

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:59 AM
Vera said that
* she is very upset by this loss :sad:
* each game was a struggle, and she was focused on winning
* it's not worth playing a tournament if you don't think that you can win
* making the QF of a Tier I is a good result
* she is now focused on her doubles match with Nastya
* her plans for the rest of the year are Zurich, Linz, and YEC if she makes it

pav
Oct 16th, 2004, 07:20 AM
I' ll bet She was upset by the loss, She would have had realistic hopes of winning! I only got to watch a scoreboard, did Vera start to make a lot of errors as the match went on rather than Nastya picking Her game up,or was it a bit of both? How did the anger management go?there is nothing more nerve wracking than watching Bepa win a 1st. set on a scoreboard and waiting to see how the 2nd progresses!

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 08:13 AM
I only got to watch a scoreboard, did Vera start to make a lot of errors as the match went on rather than Nastya picking Her game up,or was it a bit of both?I think it was a combination of both. In the 1st set, the UE count was 13 to Bepa and 19 to Nastya. By the end of the 2nd set, it was 33 to Bepa and 29 to Nastya. At the end of the 3rd set, it was 50 to Bepa and 46 to Nastya. Nastya had twice as many BP opportunities as Bepa, but Bepa kept her head under pressure. The problem was that Bepa also couldn't always convert BPs when she had the chance.

How did the anger management go?there is nothing more nerve wracking than watching Bepa win a 1st. set on a scoreboard and waiting to see how the 2nd progresses!I think that she was pretty good. Of course, it was hard to tell because the internet feed was pausing all the time, so it was hard to see whether or not tears were welling in her eyes.

At *5-6 30-30, Nastya hit a ball long, but it was called good, thus giving Nastya a match point. Bepa :crying2:, but she managed to save 3 MPs before she finally lost.

pav
Oct 16th, 2004, 08:40 AM
Thanks for the info, I don't blame Her for a few tears at a bad call at that stage of the match! That one call couild have made a hell of a difference,too late to worry about that now, hope they win Their doubles,and Nastya can go on and beat Dav. but I don't think She will.

Emptiness
Oct 16th, 2004, 08:47 AM
I hope Vera and Nastya can win theirs doubles. Maybe they can atleast walk away with a doubles title. Though i doubt that too.. Vera may still be emotional and Nastya would either be emotional or exhausted. http://xs.to/pics/04104/smilie-sad.gif

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 09:05 AM
I think that Vera will put the loss behind her, and get on with the job. If anything, it may give her even more determination to win. She won't want to leave Moscow without a title, so I think that she'll be fully focused on the match.

Daniel
Oct 16th, 2004, 09:13 AM
Good luck in doubles with Nastya :D

pav
Oct 16th, 2004, 10:32 AM
I was sure wrong think Nastya wouldn't beat Lindsay!, hope She's not too excited to concentrate on the doubles!

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 10:42 AM
I'm sure that Bepa can bring Nastya back to earth with some :sobbing: and racquet throwing ;)

pav
Oct 16th, 2004, 12:15 PM
She'll sort Her out alright! Those other two are having a breakathon at the moment ,I want the game over with so I can go to sleep and catch up with the doubles result in the morning!

Emptiness
Oct 16th, 2004, 01:08 PM
Anyone know when the doubles will start?

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 01:12 PM
Anyone know when the doubles will start?After Lena B has a suitable rest. There must be something in the rules that states the maximum resting time, but I think that Bepa backed up to play in the Memphis doubles finals about 30 minutes after she won the singles final.

- EDIT - I've been told that it's 45 minutes resting time :)

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Bepa's doubles match has started.

Go for the title!!!

Udachi!!!

goldenlox
Oct 16th, 2004, 02:36 PM
Vera plays Maleeva in Zurich.

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 03:25 PM
Match in progress - Bepa/Nastya vs Nadya/LenaB

They won the 1st set 6-4, but lost the 2nd in a TB 7-9, including 2 missed MPs :(

Nastya needs rest before the final, so I hope they win quickly

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Bepa/Nastya defeated Nadya/Lena B 6-4 6-7(7) 6-4 :woohoo:

Nastya had to play an extra set after they blew MP chances in the TB, and Nadya had 40-15 on serve at 5-4*, but Bepa and Nastya saved a bunch of gamepoints to break and win.

Bepa and Nastya make it back to back KC doubles finals appearances. Let's hope they go one step further this year!!!

goldenlox
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:04 PM
Vera has a tough draw in Zurich. And she can still make the YEC.
But she needs to win matches. When Vera reached the final of Tier III Cincinnati, it was only her fourth final, winning Memphis and Bol.
Vera still has to prove she belongs with the top 10.

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:06 PM
GL, how about we focus on Bepa's appearance in the doubles final of a Tier I tournament in Moscow :)

goldenlox
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:11 PM
I wanted Vera to be a top singles player. This will keep her in Moscow, and she has no bye in Zurich.

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:20 PM
A doubles title in Moscow will mean more to her than playing singles in Zurich.

Zurich is next week. Vera has business to finish at home this week.

goldenlox
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Nadia's thread is for Nadia. Leave it that way.
Vera needs Nastya to win the singles title, or they won't have a chance tomorrow.

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:33 PM
Nadia's thread is for Nadia. Leave it that way.
Vera needs Nastya to win the singles title, or they won't have a chance tomorrow.Where did I not discuss Nadya in Nadya's thread? I'd like her to be Vera's doubles partner next year :)

Nastya doesn't need to win for them to have a chance tomorrow. Vera can play for the both of them :D .
Besides, if Nastya did lose, it would give her even more drive to win the doubles title.

Conclusion - Vera and Nastya will win the doubles title

goldenlox
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:36 PM
I want Nadia's thread to be about Nadia. So please delete your post.
Vera and Nastya are playing the top doubles team tomorrow, and Nastya will be physically and emotionally drained.

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:51 PM
The post is about Nadya. It's talking about her doubles partner at this tournament, her usual doubles partner, and the player who I would like to be her partner in the future. Ergo, there is no problem.

Vera and Nastya have fought to get to this point in the tournament, and they're not going to suddenly stop at the last hurdle. Nastya has let Vera down a number of times this season, and now is her chance to make amends.

Nastya has a chance for two Tier I titles at her home tournament. Vera will turn up to play, and hopefully Nastya will also be able to perform well.

goldenlox
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:54 PM
I want Nadia's thread to be about Nadia. So please delete your post.
Vera and Nastya are playing the top doubles team tomorrow, and Nastya will be physically and emotionally drained.
I have great idea! Delete all your posts!

cool_olga
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:56 PM
Nice match but they shouldn't have blown second set. They were 1-5 in tiebreak and came to 6-5 match point and still they made like 3-2 stupid easy errors on MP's.
But then played well in third it was really nice :) jens as usual was sitting with Lex and Vera's support group and Nastya's friends were sitting other place with Stepanov.
I feel they will win the final, playing really good :) Vera showed some great shots I have to say it was her good job in this match.

goldenlox
Oct 16th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Have you done any interviews in Moscow, Ola?

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 05:07 PM
Ola :wavey:

You wouldn't think by looking at her, but Vera has great court coverage. It was funny watching her running around in circles when she was at the net, and sprinting along the baseline from sideline to sideline. She defended quite impressively.

goldenlox
Oct 16th, 2004, 06:13 PM
Good luck in the doubles finals. But first priority should be singles.:nerner: :nerner: :yeah:

Epigone
Oct 16th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Good luck in the doubles finals. But first priority should be singles.:nerner: :nerner: :yeah:Of course first priority should be singles, but this is KC. KC is more important than any other tournament. Singles will be the focus from Sunday night onwards

Epigone
Oct 17th, 2004, 08:13 AM
I wanted Vera to be a top singles player. This will keep her in Moscow, and she has no bye in Zurich.Wasn't Sveta a great doubles player before she became a great singles player? Who's to say that Vera won't follow the same path? Her volleying has improved this year, and I think it is due in large part to her playing doubles.

Every match that Vera plays is a learning experience. She has great stamina, so I think that she can handle a full singles and doubles schedule. The more comfortable she gets playing big matches, the more chance she has of beating top players.

When Vera gets a partner who is committed to doubles, I think that she will be able to win Slams and make the YEC in doubles. She already has a mixed doubles Slam title, and I think that she is capable of much more.

Epigone
Oct 17th, 2004, 12:16 PM
I wanted Vera to be a top singles player. This will keep her in Moscow, and she has no bye in Zurich.With Serena and Lindsay withdrawing, Vera now gets a bye in the 1st round :p

Epigone
Oct 17th, 2004, 02:39 PM
Vera and Nastya took the 1st set of their doubles final 6-3 :bigclap:

Let's hope that they can keep up the great work :)

Epigone
Oct 17th, 2004, 03:22 PM
Bepa and Nastya lost the 2nd set 6-4 :sad:

They missed a BP at 4-4*, and then Vera was broken :(

However, they broke in the 1st game of the 3rd set, and lead *1-0

mandy7
Oct 17th, 2004, 03:43 PM
6-3, 4-6, 6-2 :bounce:

-edit-
:woohoo:

Epigone
Oct 17th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Bepa/Nastya defeated the #1 seeds 6-3 4-6 6-2 :woohoo:

Congralutaions to Vera and Nastya on their 1st Tier I doubles title

Epigone
Oct 17th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Vera and Nastya are playing the top doubles team tomorrow, and Nastya will be physically and emotionally drained.Wrong!
Nastya doesn't need to win for them to have a chance tomorrow. Vera can play for the both of them :D .
Besides, if Nastya did lose, it would give her even more drive to win the doubles title.

Conclusion - Vera and Nastya will win the doubles titleCorrect!

If you saw the match, you'd know that it was Vera who was taking care of business. She a great doubles player, and I don't think that you give her enough credit.

The way that she was setting up points was :worship:, and she can hit at amazing angles and can also volley really well.

I believe that I am now vindicated for believing that she was more deserving of an Olympic doubles spot than Elena Dementieva.

Frank
Oct 17th, 2004, 04:25 PM
Congrats to Vera! :yeah:


And to Anastasia as well of course...;)

goldenlox
Oct 17th, 2004, 04:26 PM
Bepa/Nastya defeated the #1 seeds 6-3 4-6 6-2 :woohoo:

Congralutaions to Vera and Nastya on their 1st Tier I doubles titleCongratulations to Vera. Now get to Zurich, and try to make the YEC!:D

Emptiness
Oct 17th, 2004, 04:56 PM
Yay Vera!
Now win Zurich. :fiery:

Atleast a spot in the finals.

goldenlox
Oct 17th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Vera has a bye, then plays Molik or Elia. So it won't be easy. But a bye at a Tier I is a good thing.
Hopefully, Vera avoided the flu.

Epigone
Oct 17th, 2004, 06:17 PM
I don't want to see Vera play Nadya in the QF :sad:. That could be a really difficult match.

I think that the previous draw was actually better for Vera, but she'll have to play with the hand that she has been dealt.

goldenlox
Oct 17th, 2004, 06:20 PM
Serena and Lindsay both withdrew, and that gave Vera a bye in Zurich.
I'd like to see Vera-Nadia. I saw their one match, at RG. But the Tennis Channel is only showing the final.

Epigone
Oct 17th, 2004, 06:28 PM
Nadia scares me more than anyone else in the draw, including Momo. IMO, she is possibly the most gifted Russian, but she is like a female Marat Safin :banghead:

Vera was leading her at RG before she threw the match away, but I think that surface was more suited to Vera. Nadia indoors will be very tough.

goldenlox
Oct 17th, 2004, 06:38 PM
Vera needs to get to Zurich and fight!

:boxing: :D :D

Epigone
Oct 18th, 2004, 07:08 AM
Vera has a scary h2h against Momo, but if she gets past Nadya, I think that she'll defeat Momo to make the final :cool:

mandy7
Oct 18th, 2004, 08:08 AM
i don't know why, but i've got the feeling vera is gonna kick some serious ass in this tourney :D

pav
Oct 18th, 2004, 08:10 AM
Got sent away to the back for two days and one night and only just got back and ran thru finals scorethread, congratulations to Nastya,and Vera /Nastya! not a small thing to beat those two in the doubles,vera getting a lot of praise for Her play, hard road for Her to hoe in Zurich, at least She should make it to the 2nd round, She seems to steam thru those byes!

Frank
Oct 18th, 2004, 08:11 AM
I have feelings like that all the time but then usually that player loses somewhere in the 3rd round. :)

(of a Grand Slam that is...:p)

Anyways...Good luck Vera! :D

Epigone
Oct 18th, 2004, 08:53 AM
With her KC doubles title, Vera has moved to a career-high ranking of 15 :bounce:

She and Nastya are ranked #8 in the Doubles Race, but only the top 4 team get to go

goldenlox
Oct 18th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Vera has a tough draw in Zurich. And she can still make the YEC.
But she needs to win matches. When Vera reached the final of Tier III Cincinnati, it was only her fourth final, winning Memphis and Bol.
Vera still has to prove she belongs with the top 10.
It's obvious from Vera's record that she has a problem beating the top 10.
And she still has never played in a big final, or the semi of a major.

So there is a lot left for Vera to do. A player with her ability should make a Tier I or II final once in a while.

Epigone
Oct 18th, 2004, 04:11 PM
So there is a lot left for Vera to do. A player with her ability should make a Tier I or II final once in a while.Vera should make the final in Linz :)

goldenlox
Oct 18th, 2004, 04:13 PM
I'm not sure who's playing Linz. There are some good players on the committment list.

Epigone
Oct 18th, 2004, 04:21 PM
Vera should be the #2 seed behind Nastya, and should therefore make the final.

goldenlox
Oct 18th, 2004, 04:22 PM
That would be the biggest final in her career, if she gets there.
I want to see the draw before I comment.

Epigone
Oct 18th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Vera made the SF last year, and lost to Sugiyama 6-4 in the 3rd. Nadya made the final, and she is the only one besides Nastya who should threaten Vera, if Vera is playing well.

Epigone
Oct 18th, 2004, 11:31 PM
Vera will play Alicia Molik in the 2nd round, after she defeated Silvia Farina Elia 6-1 7-6

Alicia is dangerous, so Vera needs to take this match very seriously

Frank
Oct 18th, 2004, 11:34 PM
Congrats and good luck! :yeah:

She should be able to defeat Molik.

Epigone
Oct 19th, 2004, 05:55 AM
Vera isn't playing today. I hope that she uses this time to relax, and to watch the Petrova vs Raymond match because the winner could be her QF opponent.

Daniel
Oct 19th, 2004, 07:20 AM
I want Vera to go so far in Zurich and to get a spot for the YEC. :D :bounce:

Epigone
Oct 19th, 2004, 09:56 AM
Momo has withdrawn from Zurich, so Vera is the highest ranked player in the top half of the draw :eek:

It sux that Vera isn't in the top quarter like she was originally because she would have had a SF spot 95% locked up :fiery:. Now she'll have to battle past Molik and Nadya to get there. If she manages that (and her present form suggests that she should), I'm pretty sure that she'll make the final.

Udachi Vera, coz this could be your breakout tournament!!!

pav
Oct 19th, 2004, 11:19 AM
Alicia is one of those Players that can put on a top ten game or be a bit of a letdown,Nadya,if they meet,the same,hope they are both in the letdown form! Vera must have been 17 when She last played Molik,a match Molik narrowly won I think, time for Bepa to balance the ledger!

goldenlox
Oct 19th, 2004, 02:24 PM
This should be a good match.:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :woohoo:

Epigone
Oct 19th, 2004, 02:39 PM
If Vera can neutralise Molik's serve and serve well herself, she will win.

I want to see the type of serving that Vera displayed in the 1st set of her QF match at the Kremlin Cup.

goldenlox
Oct 19th, 2004, 02:42 PM
With Amelie, Serena, Lindsay, Nastya, Sveta, Justine, Kim and Jennifer out, this title is wide open.
One match at a time.

Epigone
Oct 19th, 2004, 05:22 PM
Vera is playing in the 4th match tomorrow

Zvonareva vs. Molik (NB 15.30hrs)

If Vera holds, she wins

Frank
Oct 19th, 2004, 09:48 PM
Very winnable match this is for Vera. Good luck! :)

Mathijs
Oct 20th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Very winnable match this is for Vera. Good luck! :)
mm tough match i say, Alicia is always a tough player, do it's indeed winnable but tough!

Udachi Vera!!! :hearts: :hearts:

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Alicia Molik leads Vera 1-0 in h2h

2003Hobart (http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/tournaments/tournamentoverview.asp?tournament=1100006292)QFHar d (O) A.MOLIK7-5 6-7(4) 4-6

That was a very close match, and Vera is a much better player now.

I expect Vera to win this match

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 02:54 PM
Vera lost the 1st set 3-6

I think that Alicia is serving very well because Vera isn't scoring many points on returns

When Vera is serving, she is being taken to at least 30 every game, so her serve will need to pick up.

There was only one break in the 1st set, so the current situation isn't the end of the world, but Vera really needs to lift her game.

Verba
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:00 PM
Verunchik, time to raise your game!!!!!! GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:12 PM
Vera played well in Moscow, but that's important to her.
She lost to Lena L. in Filderstadt, and she might not play well here.

katiektc
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:28 PM
she jus won second set 7-5

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Vera took the 2nd set 7-5, despite being broken in the opening game. As the set progress, she held once to 15, and twice to love, and she broke Alicia in the 4th and the 10th game.

Vera had to save some BPs in that set, but her serve seems to be firing now, while Alicia's is dropping off. As I'm writing this, Vera just held to love to lead 1-0*

Davai Bepa!!!

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:50 PM
Vera down 2-5. Losing to Lena L. and Molik shows that Vera is in the mix, but not a solid top 10 player.

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:54 PM
Vera lost 2-6 7-5 2-6

Worst loss of the year BY FAR :(

At 2-1* 0-30, she lost 4 straight points :shrug:

She had a BP in the final game and missed it

IW all over again :sobbing:

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 03:56 PM
A good opportunity missed. Molik's a good player, but a YEC player should be able to beat her.

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Vera down 2-5. Losing to Lena L. and Molik shows that Vera is in the mix, but not a solid top 10 player.When Nastya lost to Tchakvetadze and Camerin is consecutive matches, what did that show?

Even the best players play bad matches. Vera just picks the absolute worst time to do it :banghead:

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:13 PM
It showed that Nastya was upset about losing in the Olympics.
Nastya has won a major, and 2 KC's. There's no comparison with Vera.

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:18 PM
It showed that Nastya was upset about losing in the Olympics.Fine, Vera was upset by her KC loss, and that's why she lost here :)

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Vera has never reached the final of a Tier I or II. She had a bye here, and a great opportunity.
She had great opportunities in Indian Wells and Key Biscayne also.

Vera has to improve. Or she may never win a big match.

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:32 PM
Vera has to improve. Or she may never win a big match.Vera, with all of her issues, has won a Tier I doubles title, a GS mixed doubles title, made Tier I SFs this year, and entered the top 10. She is a great player, and her big win is coming.

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:35 PM
She almost beat Nastya in San Diego. That would have been her biggest win.
She's grinding out a good living, without winning big matches.
Her biggest win was the Memphis final, a Tier III.

ys
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:50 PM
I remember seeing somewhere the interview in Russian with her coach Carrington in last couple of days.. And that was really, really funny.. Like when asked what he tells to her when she cries on court he replies in Russian:"Stop whinging, play the ball, bitch".. When asked what he thinks about Russian tennis players, he says in Russian:" Pretty asses"..

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 04:51 PM
That fact that she made the top 10, despite playing poorly at the Grand Slams and Tier Is shows that she is a player who consistently goes deep into tournaments, but falters near the final hurdle.

The shots are there, but her head screws them up, and many times for no obvious reason. It's a mental block that she will overcome. I predict that it will change next year.

ys
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:03 PM
The recipy for Vera success is quite obvious.. Look at Nastya.. Vera is similar.. The best of Williams, Henin, Davenport, Dementieva or Kuznetsova will beat the best of either Nastya or Vera. But none of Williams, Henin, Davenport, Kuznetsova or Demeniteva can keep that level for any long time.. Too much power, too little margin for error. What Nastya managed to do .. She learnt how to play at her best possible level for long stretches of the match, often all match long.. Vera has to learn just that. I am sure she can do it..

Given that neither Kuznetsova nor Zvonareva have a stellar indoors season so far, I am pretty sure that Tarpishev must be having his second thoughts about his Fed Cup choice..

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:03 PM
I remember seeing somewhere the interview in Russian with her coach Carrington in last couple of days.. And that was really, really funny.. Like when asked what he tells to her when she cries on court he replies in Russian:"Stop whinging, play the ball, bitch".. When asked what he thinks about Russian tennis players, he says in Russian:" Pretty asses"..:haha: He has to be the coolest coach on tour.

The KC coverage cut to a shot of him sitting in the stands with his Nike cap turned to the side hip hop style :cool:. I really think that he will help Vera overcome her issues.

ys, is there a link to this interview somewhere? Thanks :)

ys
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:07 PM
http://www.mk.ru/numbers/1325/article40910.htm

Carrington's interview is the last part of the article..

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:07 PM
Given that neither Kuznetsova nor Zvonareva have a stellar indoors season so far, I am pretty sure that Tarpishev must be having his second thoughts about his Fed Cup choice..Putting the interests of Russia ahead of my favourite player, I would consider replacing Vera or Sveta with Elena Bovina. In that case, Vera would be sitting on the sideline, as Sveta is needed for doubles.

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Given that neither Kuznetsova nor Zvonareva have a stellar indoors season so far, I am pretty sure that Tarpishev must be having his second thoughts about his Fed Cup choice..
Nastya and Sveta are the top ranked Russians in 2004 points. Vera has to play better to be a regular on the Fed Cup team.

the cat
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:12 PM
Vera really could have done more with this year than she has done. She's had the chances to do better than has that's for sure.

And I agree with epi about how Bovina should be on the Russian Fed Cup team. Big Bovina's size and game indoors is very imposing! :eek:

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:23 PM
Nastya and Sveta are the top ranked Russians in 2004 points. Vera has to play better to be a regular on the Fed Cup team.Vera is undefeated in Fed Cup competition this year, unlike Nastya and Sveta. In fact, Nastya lost 6-3 6-3 to Molik in the first tie :o

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:26 PM
Vera played Stosur, not Molik.

Frank
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:30 PM
Disappointing loss. :(

I was able to see about one set of it, Vera didn't play too bad from what I saw, but it was mainly the second, which she won...;)

Anyway, good luck next time!

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Vera played Stosur, not Molik.Stosur is a slightly more erratic version of Molik. In fact, she has a bigger serve than Molik, and Molik's serve is her biggest weapon.

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 20th, 2004, 05:50 PM
Vera :( :sad:
she had the momentum too but slipped up badly :(
there goes LA :(

i saw bit and pieces of that as i was watching Marat trying to hand out freebies to Girly Boy :o

goldenlox
Oct 20th, 2004, 06:05 PM
Vera still has a chance to get to L.A. But she needs results in Linz and Philly.

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 06:13 PM
Vera still has a chance to get to L.A. But she needs results in Linz and Philly.Although Vera has committed to Philly, she said in Moscow that her schedule is Zurich, Linz, and L.A. (if top 8).

That might change after this result, but it would mean 5 straight weeks of regular tournaments, then YEC. On the other hand, she only played one match in Filderstadt and Zurich, so the workload might not be that huge.

Epigone
Oct 20th, 2004, 06:58 PM
For someone who is usually able to adapt to the game her opponent brings, I can't figure out for the life of me why Vera was hitting to Molik's forehand :confused:

Backhand rallies would have been the smart option because Vera can take on anyone with her backhand. Hopefully Vera and Lex will talk about this issue in the debrief.

Here are the stats from the match

Gowza
Oct 20th, 2004, 10:47 PM
vera is starting to rack up some disappointing losses, two weeks in a row, the losses were to very competent players but still, vera should be winning them. good luck next tournament.

pav
Oct 20th, 2004, 10:48 PM
.[/QUOTE]The best of Williams, Henin, Davenport, Dementieva or Kuznetsova will beat the best of either Nastya or Vera.


I don't know if it has been proved yet that the best of Kuzzy or Dement. will always beat the best of Bepa, they both may have a slight power edge, but it is minimal,and I think We need to see a few more match-ups to say this,also Beps service performance is between the two, but improving,all have suffered some losses to lower ranked players recently,another year will tell us more,it wasn't long ago many so- called expert tennis writers were describing both Nasty's and Elena D's careers as 'stalled', and Bovo. Bepa, Petrova, and Kuzzy were going to leapfrog Them quick time(mind You, it did look like that at that stage!)

Epigone
Oct 21st, 2004, 06:40 AM
ys is right about Vera not being able to play at a level near her best for a long stretch of time. I've seen her play absolutely amazing tennis, hitting numerous winners and minimal UEs, but it only lasted for one set. After that, the intensity dropped significantly, and she ultimately lost the match.

However, my thinking is also a little different to ys'. I rate Vera's skill level higher than some of the current top 10 players, but I feel that those same players can play pretty well for long stretches of the match, while Vera can fluctuate between amazing and average from game to game (with average play dominating :o ).

Consistently high quality play is what is needed, and the first step to achieving that has to be getting the emotional outbursts under control.

Daniel
Oct 21st, 2004, 07:05 AM
Vera :sad: when is she going to show her real talent?

Epigone
Oct 21st, 2004, 08:01 AM
Давно вы с Верой работаете?
Почти два с половиной года, а что? Я сначала был ее спарринг-партнером и консультантом. Потом стал тренировать Веру сам.According to the link posted by ys :worship:, Vera and Lex have been working together for 2 1/2 years. At first, he was a hitting partner and consultant, but now he is her coach.

pav
Oct 21st, 2004, 08:48 AM
ys is right about Vera not being able to play at a level near her best for a long stretch of time. I've seen her play absolutely amazing tennis, hitting numerous winners and minimal UEs, but it only lasted for one set. After that, the intensity dropped significantly, and she ultimately lost the match.

However, my thinking is also a little different to ys'. I rate Vera's skill level higher than some of the current top 10 players, but I feel that those same players can play pretty well for long stretches of the match, while Vera can fluctuate between amazing and average from game to game (with average play dominating :o ).

Consistently high quality play is what is needed, and the first step to achieving that has to be getting the emotional outbursts under control.

Makes sense, time, age, experience and a bit of help might slow the outbursts but don't think She will ever be completely de-bepa-ised( suppose We don't want a robot!)

Epigone
Oct 21st, 2004, 09:45 AM
Makes sense, time, age, experience and a bit of help might slow the outbursts but don't think She will ever be completely de-bepa-ised( suppose We don't want a robot!)I'm with you. There is no way that I want a robot!

Vera is one of the few players who can provide entertainment on court when she isn't even hitting the ball, and that's one of the reasons that I like her so much.

However, she can't let the outbursts distract her from her game. If she could use them to focus her mind, they could actually help her game.

Emptiness
Oct 21st, 2004, 09:56 AM
Oh Bepopa wah happon?!
I agree, without the outburst she just isn't Vera but she shouldn't let it affect her game. Needs more concentration.. more consistency, needs to play better at those big points. Now she'll have to really produce some really good results to reach YEC. She needs that mental breakthrough. http://xs.to/pics/04104/smilie-sad.gif

I hope it happens soon because i'm sick of people calling her a crybaby... even though.. she is one. :rolleyes:

goldenlox
Oct 21st, 2004, 02:36 PM
Although Vera has committed to Philly, she said in Moscow that her schedule is Zurich, Linz, and L.A. (if top 8).

That might change after this result, but it would mean 5 straight weeks of regular tournaments, then YEC. On the other hand, she only played one match in Filderstadt and Zurich, so the workload might not be that huge.
This is the problem. She's playing tournaments, but not winning matches.
That's unacceptable from a top 10 player.
Vera needs to treat each match with urgency. She was doing that before the US Open.

Epigone
Oct 21st, 2004, 02:51 PM
And the even bigger problem is that Vera has lost her first match in 2 out her last 3 tournaments. Her problem has been beating top 10 players, but now she is losing badly to players outside the top 15 :sad:

goldenlox
Oct 21st, 2004, 02:59 PM
Losing to Lena L. and Molik isn't bad, but it's not good, either.
Vera is playing okay, but she's capable of better.

Epigone
Oct 21st, 2004, 03:15 PM
Losing to Lena L. and Molik isn't bad, but it's not good, either.
Vera is playing okay, but she's capable of better.Vera has to show that she is a threat on tour. If you look in the GM, Vera is known as the player who cries, and these people are tennis fans :rolleyes: . What do casual tennis viewers who read a newspaper report of her latest meltdown think?

goldenlox
Oct 21st, 2004, 03:20 PM
Vera has never won a big match.
She has to prove she belongs with the top players. I think she does belong.
But Nastya, Maria, Sveta, and Lena D. have all won big matches.
Vera needs to beat good players when it matters.

Verba
Oct 21st, 2004, 03:21 PM
ТЕННИС И МАТЕМАТИКА ВЕРЫ ЗВОНАРЕВОЙ

– Ну что ты делаешь? Соберись! – строго выговаривала себе Вера Звонарева, недовольно постукивая ракеткой по корту. Еще несколько раз быстро провела ракеткой, отрабатывая невидимый удар, и кивнула сопернице: мол, я готова, твоя подача! По ту сторону к подаче готовилась Анастасия Мыскина.

Ученица

Вот такой непосредственной, предельно сосредоточенной и эмоциональной я увидела одну из лидеров женской сборной команды России, 19-летнюю Веру Звонареву на корте «Лужников», когда она вместе с давней подругой Настей Мыскиной готовилась к матчу Кубка Федерации в Москве. Такой же она была и на корте Монреаля, когда уверенно обыграла свою соотечественницу, чемпионку Уимблдона Машу Шарапову, и в полуфинале турнира Roger’s Cup встретилась с француженкой Амели Моресмо.

Это был поединок характеров. Но закаленная в теннисных баталиях Моресмо не пустила юную россиянку в финал. И нужно было видеть побелевшие костяшки пальцев, сжимавшие рукоятку «невезучей» ракетки, горящие глаза Веры на тай-брейке и холодное рукопожатие в конце матча: «Мой финал еще впереди!» Он права – ее победы еще впереди. Ведь Вера Звонарева – настоящий боец. Отважный и бесстрашный. Каждый матч, сыгранный ею, – это маленькая битва, в которой россиянка отдает всю себя победе.

Сейчас трудно представить, что в России могло бы и не быть такой талантливой и уже многими любимой теннисистки. Зато была бы фигуристка Звонарева или пловчиха: в детстве маленькая Вера с удовольствием занималась фигурным катанием и плаванием. Родители девочки, Игорь и Наталья Звонаревы, уже тогда, в пятилетнем ребенке, смогли разглядеть большое спортивное будущее. Разглядеть, но не определить. Определила, как всегда, судьба. Именно судьба свела шестилетнюю Верочку с замечательным теннисным тренером Светланой Крючковой. Тогда-то и произошло первое знакомство будущей звезды мировых кортов с ракеткой.

Впрочем, любовь именно к теннису была у Веры в крови. Эта «кровная» страсть досталась Звонаревой от мамы, большой любительницы этого, в ту пору элитного вида спорта. Постепенно коньки оказались забыты, очки и купальник перекочевали из спортивной сумки в шкаф, а главной забавой Веры стала ракетка. Именно забавой, потому что… «Спортом я занималась больше для удовольствия, на то время для меня главное была хорошая учеба в школе, – признается Звонарева. – Теннис мне нисколько не мешал учиться. В школе я всегда была на хорошем счету, очень прилежно выполняла все задания и требования. Мне нравилось учиться. Но когда пришли первые победы, я поняла, что хочу серьезно заниматься теннисом и посвятить свою жизнь спорту».

И все же удивительно: Вера никогда не мечтала стать профессиональной теннисисткой. «В детстве я мало задумывалась о своей будущей профессии. Я очень любила точные науки, моим любимым предметом была математика. Так что, не стань я теннисисткой, скорее всего, связала бы свою жизнь с математикой или информатикой», – смеется Вера.

Так вот в чем кроется загадка ее точно просчитанных ударов и комбинаций на теннисном поле!

Сейчас Вера продолжает учиться. Она студентка четвертого курса Российской государственной академии физической культуры.

– Я и сейчас с удовольствием учусь и постигаю азы тренерской профессии. Пока только в теории. Мне в радость учиться, но, к сожалению, не получается выкраивать достаточное количество времени на образование. В середине мая я довольно успешно сдала летнюю сессию и со спокойной душой вернулась к тренировкам и выступлениям.

– Вера, тебе бы хотелось в будущем работать тренером? – интересуюсь я у Звонаревой.

– Честно говоря, раньше меня привлекала эта работа. Мне очень хотелось попробовать тренировать детишек. Но теперь вижу, что тренерская работа вовсе не такая, какой мне поначалу представлялась. Я бы хотела попробовать свои силы на поприще спортивного менеджмента.

Теннисистка…

– Выступление на каком турнире в нынешнем сезоне было для тебя самым удачным? – перевела я разговор на более теннисную тему.

– Конечно, в Мемфисе – я выиграла этот турнир. Там за главный приз я играла в финале против Маши Шараповой.

Кстати, в Монреале жребий вновь свел россиянок вместе, и вновь Вера оказалась сильнее Шараповой. Может быть, в следующем сезоне теннисные боги в Уимблдоне улыбнутся Вере Звонаревой?

– В Монреале мы выступали с Шараповой в паре, – словно предугадывая мой вопрос, говорит Вера, – она отличная, общительная и простая девчонка. И очень большая умница.

– С кем из сборной ты общаешься больше всего?

– Я дружу с Настей Мыскиной, с Аленой Лиховцевой, у меня со всеми девочками хорошие отношения. На турнирах мы стараемся держаться вместе, тренируемся вместе. Конечно, определенная конкуренция между нами существует, но она распространяется только на теннис.

– Какой матч считаешь лучшим в своей карьере?

– Пока матч с Винус Уильямс в прошлом году. Я выиграла у нее довольно уверенно, даже скажу, хладнокровно. Признаться, перед игрой не было никакого мандража. Мне собственное спокойствие показалось странным – ведь против самой Уильямс выхожу на корт!

– У тебя есть любимый турнир?

– Кубок Кремля! Потому что проходит в Москве, в родных стенах. Надеюсь, что в этом году смогу показать все, на что способна. Ведь в этом сезоне, я, наверно, могла бы показать лучшую игру…

Грустные нотки, проскальзывающие в голосе Звонаревой, вполне объяснимы: на Олимпиаде в Афинах Вере досталась участь всего лишь запасной. Не хватило рейтинговых очков, когда проходил отбор в сборную олимпийскую команду.

– Олимпийскую награду нельзя сравнить с чемпионством в турнирах Большого шлема, это что-то более грандиозное и важное для любого спортсмена. В том числе и для меня. Я уверена, что наши девушки привезут России медали различной пробы, я обязательно буду болеть за нашу команду.

– С кем из теннисисток ты бы не хотела встретиться на корте?

– С любой из первой двадцатки. Но больше всего не люблю играть против Смашновой: она действует как машина, безошибочно и четко. Ее ужасные свечи доставляли мне столько неприятностей. В матче с ней я начинаю теряться, потому что не знаю, как ее можно обыграть.

– А кумир в теннисе у тебя есть?

– Мартина Хингис. Мне нравится ее игра. Точнее, нравилась, она ведь ушла из спорта и теперь часто комментирует матчи WTA-Тура. Я с ней встречалась несколько раз, мы общались. У меня остались очень приятные впечатления от наших бесед.

Болельщица …

Оказывается, Вера – настоящий армеец. В смысле, из ЦСКА. Тренируется на кортах ЦСКА под руководством Юлии Кашеваровой и болеет – всей душой! – за армейскую хоккейную дружину.

– Обожаю хоккей. И хоккей на траве, и обычный, с клюшкой, льдом и всей этой защитной амуницией, – делится Вера. – Огромное количество моих знакомых выступают под армейским флагом. Знаю Андрея Николишина, поэтому всегда смотрю матчи с его участием и горячо за него болею. Если нахожусь в Москве, слежу за успехами «Лада Тольятти»: за эту команду выступают Гончар, Зубов и другие хоккеисты, которых я знаю еще по играм НХЛ.

– Я вижу, ты очень спортивная девушка…

– А как же! Стараюсь всегда быть в курсе спортивной жизни. С интересом смотрю не только хоккей, но и волейбол, и футбол. Правда, когда начинаются турниры, забываешь обо всем, кроме тенниса…

– Вера, ты до сих пор тренируешься у Кашеваровой?

– Не совсем. Сейчас Юлия занимается с одной перспективной теннисисткой и вынуждена сопровождать ее на соревнования. Поэтому сейчас я тренируюсь у очень опытного и замечательного тренера Алекса Каррингтона в США, недалеко от Бостона и Нью-Йорка. Мне очень нравится работать с Алексом. У него свой, оригинальный подход ко многим вещам в тактике теннисиста. Да и вообще он много нового привнес в мою практику, начиная от каких-то моментов в игре и заканчивая настроем непосредственно перед матчем.

– Где ты чувствуешь себя уютней: в Америке или России?

– Конечно, в России! Где бы я ни находилась, всегда сильно скучаю по дому. Люблю Москву, Коломенское, эти пруды, лес….

– А вообще любишь путешествовать?

– Любила, – смеется Вера. – За сезон здорово устаю от постоянных переездов, перелетов, поэтому о путешествии куда-то не могу не думать с содроганием. Хотя, если призадуматься, мне бы хотелось съездить посмотреть Африку – я еще ни разу не была на Африканском континенте. Ой, да и в Египте, кстати, тоже!

– А как предпочитаешь отдыхать после изматывающих матчей?

– Стараюсь проводить как можно больше свободного времени с моими близкими и друзьями. Если на турнире выдается лишняя минутка, то обычно читаю или смотрю фильмы по DVD. Вот недавно прочла документальную книгу «От Хрущева до Горбачева». Советую – очень увлекательно! А из фильмов предпочитаю наши, российские и советские. Мой самый любимый, например, «Все будет хорошо!».

…И красивая девушка Вера Звонарева

– А как ты относишься к теннисной моде и к моде вообще?

– Для меня самое главное, чтобы моя спортивная форма была удобной. У меня заключен контракт с фирмой Adidas, поэтому мне не приходится выбирать одежду для выступлений. Зато вне корта я одеваюсь в то, что мне нравится: толстовки и джинсы. Конечно, на приемы и официальные мероприятия приходится надевать что-то строгое или классическое, но в жизни люблю предельно простую одежду.

– Это правда, что у тебя какие-то особенные ракетки?

– Да, они сделаны на заказ, специально для меня.

– Наверняка их бережешь как зеницу ока, не бьешь, как Марат Сафин…

– Неправда, бью, еще как! – улыбается Вера. – Иногда приходится таким образом эмоции выплескивать.

– А что может вывести Веру Звонареву из себя на корте?

– Собственные глупые ошибки. В случае проигрыша не на соперницу надо злиться, а только на себя.

– Скажи честно, у тебя много поклонников?

– Честно? Не знаю! – хохочет Вера. – У меня берут автографы, фотографируются, дарят мягкие игрушки, но я не могу сказать, что я какая-то «звезда». Кстати, на турнире в Монреале мне один художник подарил свою картину.

– Вера, а какой молодой человек мог бы завоевать твое сердце?

– Очень хороший вопрос. Наверно, для меня самое главное, чтобы мой молодой человек был с головой. Хотя… сердцу не прикажешь.

– А оно пока свободно?

– Пока могу сказать только одно: я сама еще во многих вещах не могу разобраться. В том числе и сердечных.

Елена Кулагина

Epigone
Oct 21st, 2004, 03:24 PM
спасибо :worship:

Vass22
Oct 21st, 2004, 04:29 PM
cool interview.!
What did she mean by : "a guy with a head?" lol

Verba
Oct 21st, 2004, 06:26 PM
cool interview.!
What did she mean by : "a guy with a head?" lol
I guess Vera is too emotional and, probably, she just wants a guy who would be able to control his emotions.

Epigone
Oct 22nd, 2004, 12:58 PM
I read on this (http://tennisfan1.proboards33.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=russian&num=1087131632&start=420) website (post #427) that Vera signed autographs after the Molik match while she was still in tears :sad:. :yeah: to Vera for saying thank you to her fans, despite being upset.

goldenlox
Oct 22nd, 2004, 02:43 PM
Vera was in tears?:crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :rain:
Molik is a good player. So is Lena L.
But Vera needs wins to make it 5 Russians in the YEC.

daniela86
Oct 22nd, 2004, 03:03 PM
I read on this (http://tennisfan1.proboards33.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=russian&num=1087131632&start=420) website (post #427) that Vera signed autographs after the Molik match while she was still in tears :sad:. :yeah: to Vera for saying thank you to her fans, despite being upset.

omg :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry: poor Bepa,but I am so proud of her because she signed its when she was sad! She is a such great person, kind and very respectfull for her fans and the crowd :yeah: :yeah: That is why I will always love and admire her!!:yeah: :)
Good luck at Linz Bepa!!

goldenlox
Oct 22nd, 2004, 05:24 PM
Vera should make the final in Linz :)
It looks like Mauresmo is in Linz. And Nastya.
Vera seems to fall just short. She almost made the YEC last year.
She needs a breakthrough win. It should have been Sharapova in the FO.
Maybe she'll get that big win in Melbourne.

Epigone
Oct 22nd, 2004, 06:09 PM
Momo is just another hurdle for Vera to overcome. I'm still extremely positive about her chances in Linz.

The more chances that Vera has to overcome her mental demons, the better. I think she would ideally like to be on Nastya's side of the draw because their last two matches have been so close. I'd also like her to get another shot at Amelie before Fed Cup. So a SF vs Nastya and final vs Momo would be my preferred way for the chips to fall.

Frank
Oct 22nd, 2004, 07:52 PM
I agree. Every match between them is so close, eventually she just must win, I'm sure of that.

But she has to keep playing them to achieve that of course...:)

pav
Oct 23rd, 2004, 08:37 AM
Am I allowed to take a little bit of comfort that Molik bowled Nadya over easier than Vera?and that someone said in GM that the real test for Molik will be Nadya,Masha,or Venus! clutching at straws I suppose!
Hope She can manage a longer run in Linz.

Epigone
Oct 23rd, 2004, 10:06 AM
Am I allowed to take a little bit of comfort that Molik bowled Nadya over easier than Vera?No :p

Nadya is more inconsistent than Vera. She can play like she did against Alicia, or how she played to beat Justine. You just never know which Nadya is going to show up.
Hope She can manage a longer run in Linz.Agreed!

The problem is that Momo and Serena have been addded to the draw, so Vera will be seeded #4. I just want her to have a tournament where she knocks over the top seeds and wins. This could be her chance.

goldenlox
Oct 23rd, 2004, 02:48 PM
Vera has a bye in Linz, then probably Dechy, then maybe Schnyder. She still can make the YEC.

Epigone
Oct 23rd, 2004, 03:18 PM
Vera's quarter

4 Zvonareva Vera RUS vs BYE
Dechy Nathalie FRA vs Benesova Iveta CZE
Q Qualifier vs WC Schett Barbara AUT
Jankovic Jelena SCG vs 7 Schnyder Patty SUI

Vera disposed of Dechy 6-0 6-2 in Moscow, but Dechy is dangerous. Patty is in the SF in Zurich, so she is probably in pretty good form. Vera should win this quarter, but we all saw what happened in Zurich :o.

Then, there is Momo as a possible SF opponent. I may have preferred Nastya, but Vera has to show that she can beat Momo, especially with Fed Cup coming up. I'd like Vera to at least make the SF, and then see what happens from there.

Udachi!

goldenlox
Oct 23rd, 2004, 03:28 PM
This is only a Tier II. If Vera loses to Mauresmo in the semis, she makes $25,000.
Vera should be playing Maria tomorrow for $200,000.
:crying2: :crying2: :crying2: :rain:

Epigone
Oct 23rd, 2004, 03:44 PM
Vera plays badly in big-money tournaments. Just look at her results at IW and Miami :sad:

goldenlox
Oct 23rd, 2004, 03:48 PM
Vera is making a large amount of money. But she's never made the big, big money.
At least not yet.
I figure the US Open was worth $3 million to Sveta. The check, plus how it will affect her next clothing deal, exhibitions, and appearance fees.
Wimbledon probably meant $10 million for Maria.

Vera's big check was the RG QF, about $100,000. She can do better.

Epigone
Oct 23rd, 2004, 06:39 PM
There is plenty of time for Vera to make money. Right now, all I want is for her to be happy.

And even if she doesn't retire with as much money as other players, I don't think it will matter to her. From her big interview, you can see that she has plans for life after tennis, and I think she will probably live a happier life than richer players if she does what she wants to do. It's great to see that she is already working towards that goal :yeah: