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tennisIlove09
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:37 PM
I asked before the board lost messages, but it seems with all the injuries...why can't she go undefeated?

(BTW: she's already 10-0 this season...and clay is right around the corner ;) )

Knizzle
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:38 PM
I asked before the board lost messages, but it seems with all the injuries...why can't she go undefeated?

(BTW: she's already 10-0 this season...and clay is right around the corner ;) )

Could Serena??

Anna F'd Enrique
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:40 PM
NO!!!!! Nobody can, and nobody ever will!

tennisIlove09
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:41 PM
Are you talking last year? Obviously Serena's extreme weakness is clay.

Henin's weakness would be grass, and I don't consider her "weak" on grass since she's RU SF SF at the big W

Rollo
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Gee-I don't know-history and the fact that she's not THAT good?


C'mon:rolleyes: What's Henin's longest winning streak-has she even reached 20 straight?

No female has gone undefeated in a calendar year since 1940.
Martina couldn't do it.
Steffi couldn't do it.
Court-nah
Even Mo Connolly.

And Henin isn't even breathing the air on their level.

Get back to us with this if she lasts therough the French without losing.

Then we'll talk:)

saki
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:45 PM
I think it's pretty unlikely, but then again I would have said "absolutely not" to the idea that Justine could go undefeated on hardcourt last season... It's definitely within Justine's capabilities to go undefeated on clay, she's a pretty good grass-court player (second only to Venus & Serena) and she's shown that she's definitely better than everyone who played on hardcourts last season (clearly, whether she would be better than Venus or Serena is in doubt). So, on balance, I give her perhaps a 20% chance of going undefeated.

starr
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:46 PM
I asked before the board lost messages, but it seems with all the injuries...why can't she go undefeated?

(BTW: she's already 10-0 this season...and clay is right around the corner ;) )
No

Havok
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:47 PM
Christine can, but I'm not too sure about Justine

alexusjonesfan
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:48 PM
naaah, don't count on it ;)

QuicKyMonSter
Feb 7th, 2004, 09:54 PM
NO, i'm sorry but that won't be possible, only if she stops playing now and waits till next year...

RoanHJ
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:02 PM
No, I don't. Right now there are three things helping Justine out. One, Kim is too tight in the Slam finals, two is that Serena has been out injured for a while. And finally, some others who could beat her such as,Lindsay, Venus and Amelie haven't been playing up to par lately. Now, if those things change and I think they will then Justine is in for a down fall real soon. :banana:

Lady
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:13 PM
No, I don't. Right now there are three things helping Justine out. One, Kim is too tight in the Slam finals, two is that Serena has been out injured for a while. And finally, some others who could beat her such as,Lindsay, Venus and Amelie haven't been playing up to par lately. Now, if those things change and I think they will then Justine is in for a down fall real soon. :banana:

Some wishful thinking!
Justine played Kim, Lindsay & Amelie this year already and beat them, you know!
And as tennisIlove09 said, clay is around the corner! :drool:

But the answer to the original question is "no", but I would love too! ;)

Knizzle
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:14 PM
Longest recent streaks:

2000: Venus: 35 matches, Lindsay: 21 matches

2001: Venus: 16 matches(extended to 24 in early 2002), Mauresmo: 16 matches

2002: Serena: 21 matches, Venus: 19 matches

2003: Justine 22 matches(including 2 Fed cup), Serena: 21 matches

2004(so far): Justine 10 matches, Frazier 7 matches

Crazy_Fool
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:27 PM
No, simply because it is virtually impossible to do so. If she did, there should be more made out of the lack of competition rather than Justine being that great. Becuase at the end of the day, no-one is that great.

LindsayRocks89
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:28 PM
not going to happen :)

Rtael
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:32 PM
Could Serena??

If she ends up not playing any tournaments this year, she will. :wavey:



And in response to the title question, yes she can. Apparently no one agrees with me, but I don't really care. We shall see....I'm not saying it WILL happen, but that it might. :shrug: We'll get a better idea when (if) Justine plays against Venus in Antwerp.

vettipooh
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:37 PM
Nah, not in this lifetime. Then again, only if Venus, Serena , Kim, Mauresmo,Myskina Lindsay and Jcap retire tomorrow--And we all know it ain't gonna happen!

turt
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:43 PM
Longest recent streaks:

2000: Venus: 35 matches, Lindsay: 21 matches

2001: Venus: 16 matches(extended to 24 in early 2002), Mauresmo: 16 matches

2002: Serena: 21 matches, Venus: 19 matches

2003: Serena 21 matches, Justine: 20 matches

2004(so far): Justine 10 matches, Frazier 7 matches
In 2003, Justine had the longest winning streak (22 matches)!

Rtael
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:44 PM
In 2003, Justine had the longest winning streak (22 matches)!
Thanks Turt, I thought so too, but wasn't sure!

Knizzle
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:50 PM
In 2003, Justine had the longest winning streak (22 matches)!

I wasn't sure either, but since the site I got the info from (tenniscorner) includes Fed Cup in the Winl/Loss, I thought it was included in match win streak. Guess I should have checked.

Thanks
:wavey:

arcus
Feb 7th, 2004, 10:52 PM
didn't martina navratilova do 86-1 or something in a single year, and lose 6 matches over three years in the early 80s? That was pretty amazing, although her loses were concentrated in the slams.

I think what she did is going to be really hard to repeat.........

JH is a great player, but i would be amazed if no one beat her. there are sure players who are good enough to do it, but who knows...............
Going undefeated would mean a single season slam. Now that would be something.

Andrew.
Feb 7th, 2004, 11:27 PM
She could go undefeated on clay and outdoor hardcourts. Even grass might be somewhere she could go undefeated. But I think she will fall on the indoor courts come fall.

disposablehero
Feb 7th, 2004, 11:31 PM
She won't get to 25-0.

Diya
Feb 7th, 2004, 11:34 PM
Unlike a certain player who shall remain nameless , Justine knows its extremely difficult to go undefeated for a whole year and so she won't be setting herself up for ridicule by making tall claims like that !

I don't see any player going ONE full season without losing a single match

faste5683
Feb 7th, 2004, 11:49 PM
[QUOTE=tennisIlove09]I asked before the board lost messages, but it seems with all the injuries...why can't she go undefeated?

O.K., I'll bite. :wavey:

Yes, Justine will be undefeated in 2004. As a matter of fact, I don't think JHH will lose a match until 2006, when she will be trounced in two sets by an un-retired, newly rejuvenated Pam Shriver.
:wavey:

Knizzle
Feb 7th, 2004, 11:55 PM
She could go undefeated on clay and outdoor hardcourts. Even grass might be somewhere she could go undefeated. But I think she will fall on the indoor courts come fall.

Outdoor hardcourts?? You must foresee more season ending injuries for Venus and Serena because that prediction is ridiculous. Grass?? Please.

bandabou
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:00 AM
Unlike a certain player who shall remain nameless , Justine knows its extremely difficult to go undefeated for a whole year and so she won't be setting herself up for ridicule by making tall claims like that !

I don't see any player going ONE full season without losing a single match


aaah, good old Diya......sooooo cute in the thirst for hating on the players who shall remain nameless.

Kart
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:01 AM
Justine is not going undefeated this year.

The more she wins, the more matches she'll play and the more likely she is to get injured.

A few losses are not a bad thing as long as she wins the matches that matter.

Rtael
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:02 AM
aaah, good old Diya......sooooo cute in the thirst for hating on the players who shall remain nameless.

aaah, good old bandabou......sooooo cute in the thirst for hating on everyone except the players who shall remain nameless.

bandabou
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:04 AM
The answer to the thread: Unless Kim, Jen, and of course Venus and Serena are injured for the rest of the season, Justine ainīt going the whole year undefeated.

Rtael
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:05 AM
The answer to the thread: Unless Kim, Jen, and of course Venus and Serena are injured for the rest of the season, Justine ainīt going the whole year undefeated.
If you think Jen will ever again beat Justine, you=:cuckoo:

bandabou
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:05 AM
aaah, good old bandabou......sooooo cute in the thirst for hating on everyone except the players who shall remain nameless.

:cool: :angel: ;)

bandabou
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:07 AM
If you think Jen will ever again beat Justine, you=:cuckoo:

Wasnīt THAT far of doing it at the Open last year.

Rtael
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:18 AM
Wasnīt THAT far of doing it at the Open last year.

Almost does not count.

bandabou
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:20 AM
Almost does not count.

Of course....so, you just MAY be right.

Rub
Feb 8th, 2004, 12:23 AM
she couldn't... kim is just around and wanting revenge!

for sure, justine can't!

per4ever
Feb 8th, 2004, 05:26 AM
nobody can..so Justine can't either ;)

she can pass the clay season undefeated..but that's it

Greenout
Feb 8th, 2004, 05:30 AM
I guess we'll find out in Antwerp. It looks to be another ABF if
everyone plays to rankings. Remember no Jenn, no Amelie
and now most likely no Venus.

I think the streak will end in Antwerp, actually. I do believe
the NRR-DEN camp is treating Proxmius Diamond games
more as a treat for the fans ala an exhibition event rather
than a hardcore bloodshedding tour event.
Don't be surprised if Kim wins the Diamond stick.

Agreed. Once clay season..the War continues, and the good
fight will commence once more.
:worship:

per4ever
Feb 8th, 2004, 05:31 AM
I guess we'll find out in Antwerp. It looks to be another ABF if
everyone plays to rankings. Remember no Jenn, no Amelie
and now most likely no Venus.
bah don't remind me of it :(

It was such a promising tournament with Amelie, Jenn, Venus. Now it's probably an all Belgian domination again pffff

Greenout
Feb 8th, 2004, 05:35 AM
bah don't remind me of it :(

It was such a promising tournament with Amelie, Jenn, Venus. Now it's probably an all Belgian domination again pffff


Are you attending this event? Zhoo-steen is treating it as
sort an exhibition event, right? I don't think Carlos wants
her to beat herself up silly training to win this event.

fleemkeģ
Feb 9th, 2004, 06:38 PM
I don't think she will ... but I would love it if she does it ;)

shap_half
Feb 10th, 2004, 01:17 AM
Hopefully she can go for an undefeated clay season (Charleston, Berlin, Rome, RG) and continue on to win Wimbledon which would be equal to 26 consecutive matches. If she manages to do that, I'd be pretty happy and won't be expecting much until the USOpen.

G_Slammed
Feb 10th, 2004, 01:45 AM
Won't happen... too many obstacles (injury-good players-off days) along the way.

7~ŒLęV3ņ―
Feb 10th, 2004, 03:56 AM
whats her schedule anyway? anyone knows???:confused:

bandabou
Feb 10th, 2004, 05:10 AM
Hopefully she can go for an undefeated clay season (Charleston, Berlin, Rome, RG) and continue on to win Wimbledon which would be equal to 26 consecutive matches. If she manages to do that, I'd be pretty happy and won't be expecting much until the USOpen.

Now thatīs what I call: being ambitious!

Rollo
Mar 5th, 2004, 05:07 PM
We got out answer today:)

Cybelle Darkholme
Mar 5th, 2004, 05:28 PM
No She Can't. (http://www.ring-tones.us/tone2midi.htm?id=2648)

DunkMachine
Mar 6th, 2004, 01:40 AM
Word on the street is. She got her ass whooped.

disposablehero
Mar 7th, 2004, 12:55 AM
She won't get to 25-0.
This really wasn't a terribly bold prediction.