Virtual Career-High Ranking

Current WTA Rankings is based on players 5 mandatory and 12 "best of rest" results in last 12 months (53 weeks). But what will happen with rankings if we not use time-limit and except of last 12 months if we use players whole career? For every tournament which she ever played will be count her BEST (not LAST) result from that tournament with current WTA formula - 5 mandatory (best results from all 4 slams and Miami) and (career) best other 12 tournaments (sum of 17 career best results from 17 different tournaments).

Here is Ranking for all active players which ever reach TOP10 and for some inactive players which retire in near past:


#1 - 9275 pts - Martina Hingis SUI
#2 - 8980 pts - Serena Williams USA
#3 - 8785 pts - Justine Henin BEL
#4 - 8355 pts - Lindsay Davenport USA
#5 - 7950 pts - Maria Sharapova RUS
#6 - 7825 pts - Venus Williams USA
#7 - 7675 pts - Kim Clijsters BEL
#8 - 7185 pts - Amelie Mauresmo FRA
#9 - 7050 pts - Marry Pierce FRA
#10 - 6770 pts - Jannifer Capriati USA
#11 - 5720 pts - Elena Dementieva RUS
#12 - 5650 pts - Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS
#13 - 5275 pts - Ana Ivanovic SRB
#14 - 5115 pts - Iva Majoli CRO
#15 - 4915 pts - Anastasia Myskina RUS
#16 - 4695 pts - Nadia Petrova RUS
#17 - 4545 pts - Jelena Jankovic SRB
#18 - 4540 pts - Kimiko Date JAP
#19 - 4415 pts - Amanda Coetzer RSA
#20 - 4235 pts - Nathalie Tauziat FRA
#21 - 3995 pts - Patty Schnyder SUI
#22 - 3935 pts - Jelena Dokic AUS
#23 - 3810 pts - Daniela Hantuchova SVK
#24 - 3735 pts - Anna Chakvetadze RUS
#25 - 3465 pts - Manuela Maleeva BUL
#26 - 3115 pts - Nicole Vaidisova CZE
#27 - 3085 pts - Ai Sugiyama JAP
#28 - 3075 pts - Dinara Safina RUS
#29 - 3010 pts - Vera Zvonareva RUS
#30 - 2515 pts - Marion Bartoli FRA
#31 - 2400 pts - Alicia Molik AUS




Here is list of tournaments which is counted for every of this players:


MANDATORY TOURNAMENTS:
P L A Y E R AO RG Wim USO Mia Mandatory (SUM)
Martina Hingis SUI 1000 700 1000 1000 500 4200 pts
Serena Williams USA 1000 1000 1000 1000 500 4500 pts
Justine Henin BEL 1000 1000 700 1000 350 4050 pts
Lindsay Davenport USA 1000 450 1000 1000 350 3800 pts
Maria Sharapova RUS 1000 450 1000 1000 350 3800 pts
Venus Williams USA 700 700 1000 1000 500 3900 pts
Kim Clijsters BEL 700 700 450 1000 500 3350 pts
Amelie Mauresmo FRA 1000 250 1000 450 225 2925 pts
Marry Pierce FRA 1000 1000 250 700 70 3020 pts
Jannifer Capriati USA 1000 1000 450 450 350 3250 pts
Elena Dementieva RUS 140 700 250 700 350 2140 pts
Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 250 700 250 1000 500 2700 pts
Ana Ivanovic SRB 700 700 450 140 125 2115 pts
Iva Majoli CRO 250 1000 250 140 125 1765 pts
Anastasia Myskina RUS 250 1000 250 250 125 1875 pts
Nadia Petrova RUS 250 450 250 250 225 1425 pts
Jelena Jankovic SRB 450 450 140 450 350 1840 pts
Kimiko Date JAP 450 450 450 250 350 1950 pts
Amanda Coetzer RSA 450 450 140 250 125 1415 pts
Nathalie Tauziat FRA 140 250 700 250 225 1565 pts
Patty Schnyder SUI 450 250 140 250 70 1160 pts
Jelena Dokic AUS 90 250 450 140 125 1055 pts
Daniela Hantuchova SVK 450 140 250 250 125 1215 pts
Anna Chakvetadze RUS 250 250 90 450 225 1265 pts
Manuela Maleeva BUL 140 140 140 250 70 740 pts
Nicole Vaidisova CZE 450 450 250 140 125 1415 pts
Ai Sugiyama JAP 250 140 250 140 125 905 pts
Dinara Safina RUS 250 90 250 90 125 805 pts
Vera Zvonareva RUS 140 250 140 140 225 895 pts
Marion Bartoli FRA 60 140 700 140 125 1165 pts
Alicia Molik AUS 250 90 90 90 70 590 pts



COUNTED Tier-I:
(+ YEC and Olympics)
YEC OLY TOK IW CHA BER ROM SD CAN MOS ZUR Counted S U M
Martina Hingis SUI 750 430 465 430 430 430 275 430 430 430 (10) 4500 pts
Serena Williams USA 750 465 430 300 430 430 300 (7) 3105 pts
Justine Henin BEL 750 350 465 430 430 300 275 430 430 (9) 3860 pts
Lindsay Davenport USA 750 350 430 465 430 300 430 (7) 3155 pts
Maria Sharapova RUS 750 430 465 430 430 (5) 2505 pts
Venus Williams USA 335 350 430 300 430 275 430 (7) 2550 pts
Kim Clijsters BEL 750 465 300 430 300 430 (6) 2675 pts
Amelie Mauresmo FRA 750 245 430 430 430 300 (6) 2585 pts
Marry Pierce FRA 335 430 300 430 430 430 300 (7) 2655 pts
Jannifer Capriati USA 335 350 210 430 300 300 275 300 195 (9) 2695 pts
Elena Dementieva RUS 335 245 430 325 300 195 430 195 (8) 2650 pts
Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 195 325 300 300 195 195 195 (7) 1705 pts
Ana Ivanovic SRB 335 300 465 110 430 110 110 430 195 (9) 2485 pts
Iva Majoli CRO 335 430 210 430 195 195 110 430 (8) 2335 pts
Anastasia Myskina RUS 335 195 210 300 195 430 195 (7) 1860 pts
Nadia Petrova RUS 185 430 430 300 195 (5) 1540 pts
Jelena Jankovic SRB 110 210 430 195 430 110 300 (7) 1785 pts
Kimiko Date JAP 335 430 210 110 275 195 (6) 1555 pts
Amanda Coetzer RSA 185 300 325 430 300 195 195 300 195 110 (10) 2535 pts
Nathalie Tauziat FRA 335 110 210 110 195 110 195 430 300 (9) 1995 pts
Patty Schnyder SUI 185 300 195 300 300 430 (6) 1710 pts
Jelena Dokic AUS 185 195 110 430 190 195 430 300 (8) 2035 pts
Daniela Hantuchova SVK 185 110 465 110 195 195 300 (7) 1560 pts
Anna Chakvetadze RUS 335 110 110 195 195 430 (6) 1375 pts
Manuela Maleeva BUL 185 300 140 300 300 110 110 430 430 (9) 2305 pts
Nicole Vaidisova CZE 110 115 110 195 110 195 195 (7) 1030 pts
Ai Sugiyama JAP 185 110 110 195 300 300 110 (7) 1310 pts
Dinara Safina RUS 115 300 110 300 195 195 195 (7) 1410 pts
Vera Zvonareva RUS 105 115 300 195 195 195 (6) 1105 pts
Marion Bartoli FRA 185 65 60 60 110 110 (6) 590 pts
Alicia Molik AUS 115 110 430 (3) 655 pts



BACK-UPS
P L A Y E R # Backups S U M - EXPLANATION
Martina Hingis SUI 2 575 pts - 2 tier-II wins
Serena Williams USA 5 1375 pts - 5 tier-II wins
Justine Henin BEL 3 875 pts - 3 tier-II wins
Lindsay Davenport USA 5 1400 pts - 5 tier-II wins
Maria Sharapova RUS 7 1645 pts - 2 tier-II wins + 3 tier-III wins + *tier-II RU + Doha/08 win
Venus Williams USA 5 1375 pts - 5 tier-II wins
Kim Clijsters BEL 6 1650 pts - 6 tier-II wins
Amelie Mauresmo FRA 6 1675 pts - 6 tier-II wins
Marry Pierce FRA 5 1375 pts - 5 tier-II wins
Jannifer Capriati USA 3 825 pts - 3 tier-II wins
Elena Dementieva RUS 4 1125 pts - 4 tier-II wins
Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 5 1245 pts - 3 tier-II wins + 2 *tier-II RU
Ana Ivanovic SRB 3 675 pts - 2 tier-II wins + tier-II SF
Iva Majoli CRO 4 1015 pts - 3 tier-II wins + tier-II RU
Anastasia Myskina RUS 5 1180 pts - 3 tier-II wins + tier-II RU + tier-III win
Nadia Petrova RUS 7 1730 pts - 5 tier-II wins + tier-II RU + tier-III win
Jelena Jankovic SRB 5 920 pts - 4 tier-II RU + tier-III win
Kimiko Date JAP 6 1035 pts - tier-II win, 2 tier-II RU, tier-III win, 2 tier-II SF
Amanda Coetzer RSA 2 465 pts - tier-II win, tier-II RU
Nathalie Tauziat FRA 3 675 pts - tier-II win, 2 tier-II RU
Patty Schnyder SUI 6 1125 pts - tier-II win, 3 tier-II RU, 2 tier-III wins
Jelena Dokic AUS 4 845 pts - tier-II win, 3 tier-II RU
Daniela Hantuchova SVK 3 1035 pts - tier-II win, 4 tier-II RU
Anna Chakvetadze RUS 6 1095 pts - 2 tier-II wins + 3 tier-III wins + tier-II SF
Manuela Maleeva BUL 3 420 pts - 3 tier-III wins
Nicole Vaidisova CZE 5 670 pts - 3 tier-III wins + 2 tier-II SF
Ai Sugiyama JAP 5 870 pts - tier-II win + tier-II RU + 2 tier-III wins + tier-II SF
Dinara Safina RUS 5 860 pts - tier-II win + tier-II RU + 2 tier-III wins + tier-IV win
Vera Zvonareva RUS 6 1010 pts - 4 tier-II wins + tier-II SF + Doha/08 RU (tier-I)
Marion Bartoli FRA 6 760 pts - 2 tier-III wins + 2 tier-IV wins + 2 tier-II SF
Alicia Molik AUS 9 1155 pts - tier-II win + tier-II RU + tier-III win + 2T4W + 4T2QF



POINTS FOR BACKUPS:
Doha/08: 465win, 325RU (tier-I !!!)
tier-II: 275win, 190RU, 125SF
*tier-II (for Dubai and Doha 325win, 210RU)
tier-III: 140win
tier-IV: 115win

Go Martina :rocker2:

Well a LOT of players are missing from that list and you can't really compare different eras thaaat well, but it's a nice idea...

cp6uja makes a thread thats not all about Ana bein at the top?!?!?! shocking....

Why is Martina on this list? shes "retired"

Great idea! Really shows where some players belong.

i'm not sure what u did here.
I take issue w/ any career ranking that puts Kim Clijsters above Venus Williams.

Good list. :yeah: Goes to show slams are not everything and you need to be able to play everywhere at any time.

Good list. :yeah: Goes to show slams are not everything and you need to be able to play everywhere at any time.

They may not be everything but they are the most important thing in tennis. I just can't see how you can put someone w/ 1 slam over someone w/ 6 slams. I could maybe see someone w/ 3 slams ...but even that is a big stretch. But someone who's only won 1 slam is considered to have a better career than someone w/ 6 slams. something is very wrong w/ that.

They may not be everything but they are the most important thing in tennis. I just can't see how you can put someone w/ 1 slam over someone w/ 6 slams. I could maybe see someone w/ 3 slams ...but even that is a big stretch. But someone who's only won 1 slam is considered to have a better career than someone w/ 6 slams. something is very wrong w/ that.

Its not really the slam thats shocking, but the fact that they both made all 4 slam finals(I didnt realize that kim made all 4 as well) and that Venus has more tier 1's than Kim as well...

Its not really the slam thats shocking, but the fact that they both made all 4 slam finals(I didnt realize that kim made all 4 as well) and that Venus has more tier 1's than Kim as well...

Umm... i'm 100% sure Kim Clijsters never made the finals of Wimbledon.

Go Martina :rocker2:
Could you please include Sabatini and Graf? please

They may not be everything but they are the most important thing in tennis. I just can't see how you can put someone w/ 1 slam over someone w/ 6 slams. I could maybe see someone w/ 3 slams ...but even that is a big stretch. But someone who's only won 1 slam is considered to have a better career than someone w/ 6 slams. something is very wrong w/ that.

Yeah obviously Venus is greater. But this list shows how much Kim did actually achieve, and that the 6>1 gap doesn't seem as big when you include everything else.

Umm... i'm 100% sure Kim Clijsters never made the finals of Wimbledon.

oh my bad yeah... thats the mistake hes got kim making the finals of Wimbledon in his stats....:wavey:

i'm not sure what u did here.
I take issue w/ any career ranking that puts Kim Clijsters above Venus Williams.Venus will overtake Kim after i will correct this Wimbledon typo, but generaly Venus case is extreme exception and unique here - for example she won 6 slams but only two different (4xWimbledon, 2xUSO) and of her 6 tier-I career wins 3 is from same (and biggest) Miami tournament. No other girl out of this who is such "specialised" player like Venus. On other hand Sharapova won 3 slams and all 3 is different, and of her 6 career tier-I titles 5 is from different tournaments. That is reason how Maria already overtake Venus on this ranking.

BTW for tier-II backups i use same rule, so 3 tier-II wins for some player means that she won 3 different tier-II tournaments in career...etc

I use facts which i already have from another thread here so list of involded inactive players is probably litle bizzare (they all won atleast one tier-I in career) and for active players condition is atleast one week at WTA TOP10.


Could you please include Sabatini and Graf? please

Steffy Graf GER 9620 pts (ALL WINS: mandatory-4GS and Miami, 7tier-I+YEC+Olympic, backup-3tier-II)
Gabriela Sabatini ARG 7280 pts (mandatory: WFSS+MiaW, Other Wins:YEC, 3tier-I, 4tier-II, RU: Olympic + tier-I, other: 2 tier-ISF)

This ranking is litle unfair b/c in that times less number of tournaments have tier-I or tier-II status than in XXI century.

Didnt Venus win the Aust Open as well??

Julie Halard-Decugis is on 3390 points and jumps ahead of the Trash Mag queen!!

Didnt Venus win the Aust Open as well??

:lol:

This is a joke right? I think we would all remember if she did. LOL

Maria will be on top of the list VERY SOON.:scared: ;)

Monica?

Maria will be on top of the list VERY SOON.:scared: ;)

not likely....

Good idea!

Maybe I've not well read your rules, but if you're counting the best result at all the Tiers I, Mary Pierce has been in SF in Indian Wells and in Canada (twice or 3 times) and QF at both Pan Pacific and the Olympics. Tha should get her ahead of Mauresmo, quite logical

Good idea!

Maybe I've not well read your rules, but if you're counting the best result at all the Tiers I, Mary Pierce has been in SF in Indian Wells and in Canada (twice or 3 times) and QF at both Pan Pacific and the Olympics. Tha should get her ahead of Mauresmo, quite logicalEvery of this results which you mentoned worth by current WTA rules less than 275 points for tier-II title. 5 worst of Mary Pierce career best tier-I results is replaced with her 5 tier-II wins (at different tier-II).

wow