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shap_half
Dec 27th, 2003, 06:39 PM
If you guys haven't seen it, you really should. It was an amazing film. The actors did an incredible job. I've got to say that Renee Zellweger was absolutely amazing in that movie. She really stole all the scenes she was in. I was just amazed at how well she really stood out apart from the rest of the cast.

harloo
Dec 27th, 2003, 06:43 PM
If you guys haven't seen it, you really should. It was an amazing film. The actors did an incredible job. I've got to say that Renee Zellweger was absolutely amazing in that movie. She really stole all the scenes she was in. I was just amazed at how well she really stood out apart from the rest of the cast.

I might fall to sleep on something like this, but glad you liked it. :)

shap_half
Dec 27th, 2003, 07:09 PM
it was a love story but it also has a lot of underlying stories within it. it was a bit long (try 2 1/2 hours) and it wasn't as adventurous as LOTR:Return of the King, but it was a great film to watch. A lot of comedic relief from the aforementioned Zellweger and she has her own story weaved within the film as well. I just liked this movie anyhow.

Bacardi
Dec 27th, 2003, 08:15 PM
Oh No, not another Cold Mountain thread! :retard:

I'm not wasting one red cent on this movie. Fake movie, fake actors, faking everything about the actual Civil War. I'll go to a reenactment around here in the spring and see unknowns do a better job at portraying the battles.

Besides who here actually thinks a film that wasn't shot in the US, about the South in the Civil war with it's two lead characters being an Aussie and an Englishman is actually going to be convincing? Yep, thought so, basically NOBODY! :yawn:

shap_half
Dec 27th, 2003, 08:23 PM
Bacardi, did you see the movie? No, it seems like you didn't. So before you make any "convincing" judgements about it, know what you're actually talking about. You're a fool.

Mr. Man
Dec 27th, 2003, 08:27 PM
If you guys haven't seen it, you really should.
No thanks.

Bacardi
Dec 27th, 2003, 09:03 PM
Bacardi, did you see the movie? No, it seems like you didn't. So before you make any "convincing" judgements about it, know what you're actually talking about. You're a fool.

I don't have to see it to know it's garbage. I'm not a fool, if I were a fool I'd waste money to see this. How historically accurate can this be? It wasn't filmed in the South, no authentic battlefields, and your lead characters are a Brit and an Aussie. I've seen enough previews to hear those butchered Southern accents! I don't have to spend $5 to go and see it to know it's a pile of Oscar poo, that probably won't win any.
I have better things to waste my time with, Cold Mountain isn't one of them. I think a lot of people share a simliar opinion on this board when all we've done is hear about this piece of trash for a good 4 months!
I'd rather wait and see Alexander in Nov or Dec. At least it's going to be a little more accurate than this thing.

And for your information, I've never found Kidman or Law to be decent actors, if anything they are garbage. The only one from the previews that even looks like they give a damn for the Character is Renee.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 27th, 2003, 10:08 PM
Sam sucked away ANY interest I would have ever had in seeing this film. It's a shame, because I like Jude Law.

Hi Sam :p

TennisSTUD
Dec 27th, 2003, 11:16 PM
I don't have to see it to know it's garbage. I'm not a fool, if I were a fool I'd waste money to see this. How historically accurate can this be? It wasn't filmed in the South, no authentic battlefields, and your lead characters are a Brit and an Aussie. I've seen enough previews to hear those butchered Southern accents! I don't have to spend $5 to go and see it to know it's a pile of Oscar poo, that probably won't win any.
I have better things to waste my time with, Cold Mountain isn't one of them. I think a lot of people share a simliar opinion on this board when all we've done is hear about this piece of trash for a good 4 months!
I'd rather wait and see Alexander in Nov or Dec. At least it's going to be a little more accurate than this thing.

And for your information, I've never found Kidman or Law to be decent actors, if anything they are garbage. The only one from the previews that even looks like they give a damn for the Character is Renee.

OBVIOUSLY BACARDI HAS BEEN DRINKING TOO MUCH BACARDI

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2003, 12:50 AM
Oh No, not another Cold Mountain thread! :retard:

I'm not wasting one red cent on this movie. Fake movie, fake actors, faking everything about the actual Civil War. I'll go to a reenactment around here in the spring and see unknowns do a better job at portraying the battles.

Besides who here actually thinks a film that wasn't shot in the US, about the South in the Civil war with it's two lead characters being an Aussie and an Englishman is actually going to be convincing? Yep, thought so, basically NOBODY! :yawn:
Do you even know anything about the novel/story?

It's NOT a civil war reenactment. It's a love story set on the backdrop of the civil war, and has commentaries about war (NOT just the civil war, but ALL wars in general). It has themes of love, loneliness, family, dependency and belonging to nature/places, and home.

You keep bringing up these civil war reenactments in your area. Who the fuck cares? They are more accurate than Gone with the Wind, but guess how many people were entertained by Gone with the Wind. And guess what Vivien Leigh was British, but she did a fine job acting Scarlett O'Hara.

I'm tired of you coming into every thread with your "oh I want to see genuine civil war re-enactments". Here's news for you, what you see there isn't REALLY the civil war, they're actors too. If you REALLY want to see some civil war action, you need to go back in time. :rolleyes:

But if you are someone who appreciates good literature and good cinema, Cold Mountain is for you. If not, stay away. :rolleyes:

raquel
Dec 28th, 2003, 01:21 AM
If you guys haven't seen it, you really should. It was an amazing film. The actors did an incredible job. I've got to say that Renee Zellweger was absolutely amazing in that movie. She really stole all the scenes she was in. I was just amazed at how well she really stood out apart from the rest of the cast.
I have not seen it yet but all the reviews I read said that Renee stole the movie and is the best bet for an Oscar. I hope she does win an Oscar, she deserved it more than Nicole Kidman last year. Although I thought Nicole deserved it for 'The Others' the year before, instead of Halle Berry.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 28th, 2003, 01:32 AM
Do you even know anything about the novel/story?

It's NOT a civil war reenactment. It's a love story set on the backdrop of the civil war, and has commentaries about war (NOT just the civil war, but ALL wars in general). It has themes of love, loneliness, family, dependency and belonging to nature/places, and home.

You keep bringing up these civil war reenactments in your area. Who the fuck cares? They are more accurate than Gone with the Wind, but guess how many people were entertained by Gone with the Wind. And guess what Vivien Leigh was British, but she did a fine job acting Scarlett O'Hara.

I'm tired of you coming into every thread with your "oh I want to see genuine civil war re-enactments". Here's news for you, what you see there isn't REALLY the civil war, they're actors too. If you REALLY want to see some civil war action, you need to go back in time. :rolleyes:

But if you are someone who appreciates good literature and good cinema, Cold Mountain is for you. If not, stay away. :rolleyes:
"Hi, my name is Sam! I'm the authority on all things wonderful and grand! If you don't go to Cold Mountain, you are a neandrathal who doesn't appreciate good film and literature! It's great to be me! You should like cool things like I do! Otherwise you are a neandrathal! If I was any more important, my head would explode! Please don't disagree with me again; I really think that she's gonna blow!"

Whew. I feel better now.

King Satan
Dec 28th, 2003, 01:35 AM
"Hi, my name is Sam! I'm the authority on all things wonderful and grand! If you don't go to Cold Mountain, you are a neandrathal who doesn't appreciate good film and literature! It's great to be me! You should like cool things like I do! Otherwise you are a neandrathal! If I was any more important, my head would explode! Please don't disagree with me again; I really think that she's gonna blow!"

Whew. I feel better now.


:haha:

that's why i lurve you becca! :kiss:

~ The Leopard ~
Dec 28th, 2003, 02:05 AM
I wonder whether the Macedonian soldiers in the Alexander movie will be depicted fighting almost naked, as they seem to have done historically.

Since I'm straight, I don't really care, but it'd be interesting if they stuck to historical realism to that extent.

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 02:08 AM
Yes. Very interesting indeed. I would be facinated from a purely historical viewpoint only of course.

JasonW
Dec 28th, 2003, 02:10 AM
I just saw the movie, and I know somebody who worked on the movie. I have to correct somethings...The movie was shot in about 5 different locations...2 of which are in the south. Lots of those scenes were really Cold Mountain in North Carolina, and there were some scenes in South Carolina. Yes, most of the movie is filmed in Romania, and New Zealand. Also, the movie was Pretty good, and i'm not a big fan of Love stories, but this was pretty good, and very close to the book.

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 02:12 AM
I've seen enough previews to hear those butchered Southern accents!

This is one of my pet peeves about movies set in the south. The accents are generally crap. And please get a clue that one "southern" accent doesn't really cut it. The accents vary all over the south, and the piedmont is different from the coast in North carolina, and Georgia is a whole different thing as well as the delta and Alabama. Texas has about 3 different accents alone.

harloo
Dec 28th, 2003, 03:42 AM
"Hi, my name is Sam! I'm the authority on all things wonderful and grand! If you don't go to Cold Mountain, you are a neandrathal who doesn't appreciate good film and literature! It's great to be me! You should like cool things like I do! Otherwise you are a neandrathal! If I was any more important, my head would explode! Please don't disagree with me again; I really think that she's gonna blow!"

Whew. I feel better now.

:lol:

Bacardi
Dec 28th, 2003, 03:55 AM
I wonder whether the Macedonian soldiers in the Alexander movie will be depicted fighting almost naked, as they seem to have done historically.

Since I'm straight, I don't really care, but it'd be interesting if they stuck to historical realism to that extent.

Well I for one would be very interested in seeing Colin Ferrel run around half naked fighting. ;)

Apparently in the movie Alexander (Colin) has a love affair with another man (played by Jared Leto). That alone is interesting enough, plus I just appreciate Greek history a little more than I do Southern history. I guess you don't appreciate what's around you.

Actually Sam, Cold Mtn, is a book I probably wouldn't even read. It shocks me you read it. After all don't men usually stray from love stories or epic novels in general?

I guess I just can't read, or I choose to waste my time on really great classic novels instead of flare of the month "movie novels". Give me War and Peace, or Moby Dick.... Anything but something like a Wuthering Heights made to fit into the Civil War.

Bacardi
Dec 28th, 2003, 04:00 AM
Actually Sam's just wrapped up in this movie since he got the newsletter from the Nicole Kidman Fanclub Online that she was going to be in this movie. That and all the steamy rumors the production company started up about her and Jude Law havin a fling going. He just thought this would be another Nicole Kidman flick to cream his pants while watching. :p

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 28th, 2003, 04:07 AM
I'll watch the movie... NOT! :p

"Topaz"
Dec 28th, 2003, 04:23 AM
I just saw it, two or three hours ago. It's definitely worth seeing. Nicole and Jude Law were their usual great. Jude had the same calm under pressure he displayed in "Enemy at The Gates". Renee laid out her superb acting talents; I just thought she overdid it somewhat through the lip and facial movements; I supposed that was what the director ordered. Overall, good story, good acting and suspense till the end. Half of the spectators remained seated at the end, so taken by the cinematographic ride they just underwent. Even the song at the end, during the credits, was captivating.

No wonder this movie has 8 Golden Globe nominations for best of the year!

TP.

darren cahill
Dec 28th, 2003, 04:32 AM
[QUOTE=Bacardi]Well I for one would be very interested in seeing Colin Ferrel run around half naked fighting. ;)

YOU AINT THE ONLY ONE....GET IN LINE BEHIND ME! :lol: :tape:

Apparently in the movie Alexander (Colin) has a love affair with another man (played by Jared Leto). That alone is interesting enough,'

AND AGAIN YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH.....THANKS TO DECEMBERLOVE, I ALREADY HAVE TONS OF PICS COPIED TO MY COMPUTER OF COLIN AND HIS SEXY BLOND/BAREFOOT SELF RIDING AROUND IN HIS LITTLE ALEXANDER OUTFITS! :drool: :hearts: :lick:

jd4eva
Dec 28th, 2003, 05:53 AM
Amen to Rebecca!

Sam, until you watch the movie you need to stop singing its praises. Your idealistic view of Cold Mountain isn't shared by all, and you should accept people's opinions differ.

Sitting through a tedious movie about a trivial love story isn't everyone cup of tea. And I can't say I blame them.

Also I'm sick of your inaccurate posts. You stated that Cold Mountain has been gaining impressive reviews however I challenge you to open to the review section of today's Herald Sun. Read that and weep.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 28th, 2003, 06:39 AM
I still love you and all Sam.... just not when you talk about Cold Mountain. Although I'm sure that some appreciate your passion ;)

Experimentee
Dec 28th, 2003, 01:37 PM
I'm not in the least bit interested, doesnt seem like my thing, and Sam L harping on about it was enough to completely banish any thoughts I might ever have had of going to see it :p

Simon
Dec 28th, 2003, 04:37 PM
I saw it yesterday. As a Hollywood 'blockbuster' it's better than most. I liked the battle scene near the start. And, for what it's worth, I'm reliably informed it sticks very close to the novel. I much preferred Mingella's The Talented Mr Ripley though.

shap_half
Dec 28th, 2003, 05:08 PM
Well I've seen the movie and Sam is right. This movie is not about the civil war at all. It is a social commentary about the effects of the civil on love and on a community. This is very much a love story. It never shows and false pretenses about being a movie about a war or anything of that nature.

And Bacardi, you are a fool. You want to see the movie Alexander with Collin Farrel? yeah how realistic will this movie be? How well can Mr. Collin portray arguably the best ruler of history with HIS LIMITED acting potential? Let me tell you something: Colling Farrel is in this movie so it can sell movie tickets. Farrel is nowhere near the actors Nicole, Jude, or Renee are. And guess what else, Farrel's what? Scottish? What exactly is Alexander the Great? yeah that's right...

I personally like the movie. The acting was superb and so was the realism behind the entire movie. Renee Zellweger should very much get her third Oscar nom and hopefully her first win. I really thought she should have won last year over Nicole who wasn't even really the leading actress in The Hours. I thought the leading actress in that movie was Meryll Streep. Anyhow, Renee was absolutely magnificent in the movie and she really put herself in front in all the scenes she is in and made all the actors in the scene with her as the supporting cast. This woman's acting capabilties are just enthralling.

Rocketta
Dec 28th, 2003, 05:24 PM
This is one of my pet peeves about movies set in the south. The accents are generally crap. And please get a clue that one "southern" accent doesn't really cut it. The accents vary all over the south, and the piedmont is different from the coast in North carolina, and Georgia is a whole different thing as well as the delta and Alabama. Texas has about 3 different accents alone.

This is what gets me...:fiery: It makes me mad to know that all these southern actors have to work to lose their accents only to have foreigners get to play southern roles...:( Also, the all southern accents are a like is bull shit....for example.....

Nicholas Sparks who wrote The Notebook and others lives in NC and one of his later books called Road to Rodanthe is set in NC. I listened to the Book on Tape with Mary Beth Williams. It irritated me because her southern accent was not a NC accent it was more a Georgi Southern Bell type accent.. It was so hard for me to even listen to her cause they kept saying NC, NC but I kept hearing this Georgia or some other state's accent...:sad:

Mr. Man
Dec 28th, 2003, 08:52 PM
"Hi, my name is Sam! I'm the authority on all things wonderful and grand! If you don't go to Cold Mountain, you are a neandrathal who doesn't appreciate good film and literature! It's great to be me! You should like cool things like I do! Otherwise you are a neandrathal! If I was any more important, my head would explode! Please don't disagree with me again; I really think that she's gonna blow!"

Whew. I feel better now.
*dies*

Bacardi
Dec 28th, 2003, 09:19 PM
Cold Mtn is #3 at the Box Office. Lord of the Rings is still #1. And even #2 Cheaper by the Dozen beat out Cold Mtn. I think it's evident right now at this present time this movie was released just for Oscar nods. It would have been better to release an epic love story in say the Spring.

darren cahill Know where I can find any pics of Angelina in this Alexander film? I've only seen one of her. Talk about a HOTT Mother/Son combo. :drool:

JasonW
Dec 28th, 2003, 10:17 PM
"R" rated movies never do as well as pg 13/pg movies, because it only appeals to a certain audience. Number 3 for an R movie is great. Also, I would like to add that the scenes with the actual mountain in it, are really of teh Real cold Mountain.

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 10:46 PM
I just saw it, two or three hours ago. It's definitely worth seeing. Nicole and Jude Law were their usual great. Jude had the same calm under pressure he displayed in "Enemy at The Gates". Renee laid out her superb acting talents; I just thought she overdid it somewhat through the lip and facial movements; I supposed that was what the director ordered. Overall, good story, good acting and suspense till the end. Half of the spectators remained seated at the end, so taken by the cinematographic ride they just underwent. Even the song at the end, during the credits, was captivating.

No wonder this movie has 8 Golden Globe nominations for best of the year!

TP.

I think Jude Law is great. I loved Enemy at the Gates. I've never seen a movie where Renee didn't overdo the lip/mouth facical movement. It's what she thinks acting is. The most annoying actress ever, imo.

I've heard the music. It's nice.

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2003, 10:48 PM
Also I'm sick of your inaccurate posts. You stated that Cold Mountain has been gaining impressive reviews however I challenge you to open to the review section of today's Herald Sun. Read that and weep.

Yeah so what? I bought it and I read it? It didn't have anything in it.

And I'm interested in what America's top critics have to say as they will be the ones who will impact on it for the top awards, something this film should get.

Time Magazine calls it: "The year's most rapturous love story".

The New Yorker calls it: "A much better Civil War story than Gone with the Wind"

Rolling Stone calls it: "One stunner of a movie."

And it goes on and on. Mind you, of course some critics don't like it. But this film isn't for everybody. Mostly the very best critics like it.

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2003, 10:49 PM
Well I've seen the movie and Sam is right. This movie is not about the civil war at all. It is a social commentary about the effects of the civil on love and on a community. This is very much a love story. It never shows and false pretenses about being a movie about a war or anything of that nature.

And Bacardi, you are a fool. You want to see the movie Alexander with Collin Farrel? yeah how realistic will this movie be? How well can Mr. Collin portray arguably the best ruler of history with HIS LIMITED acting potential? Let me tell you something: Colling Farrel is in this movie so it can sell movie tickets. Farrel is nowhere near the actors Nicole, Jude, or Renee are. And guess what else, Farrel's what? Scottish? What exactly is Alexander the Great? yeah that's right...

I personally like the movie. The acting was superb and so was the realism behind the entire movie. Renee Zellweger should very much get her third Oscar nom and hopefully her first win. I really thought she should have won last year over Nicole who wasn't even really the leading actress in The Hours. I thought the leading actress in that movie was Meryll Streep. Anyhow, Renee was absolutely magnificent in the movie and she really put herself in front in all the scenes she is in and made all the actors in the scene with her as the supporting cast. This woman's acting capabilties are just enthralling.
Tell me about it. :clap2: Great post. And you're absolutely right about Farrell and Alexander.

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2003, 10:51 PM
This article is especially for Bacardi. :lol:

Historians praise 'Cold Mountain'
12/28/2003 2:45 PM
By: News 14 Carolina

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Cold Mountain, a movie about love during the civil war, opened Christmas day and is now playing across the nation.

The story takes place in the mountains of North Carolina, and depicts the hardships women faced after loved ones left them behind to fight in the war.

"We had southern accents that sorta came and went with some of the key characters," said historian Kris Carmichael. "But if one is drawn into the story one tends to ignore those facts after a while.

"By and large I think they did a good job."

The movie was shot mostly in Romaina, and Carmichael admits that before the movie she doubted the accuracy of the portrayal.

But she said she decided that it is actually true to the period and how people related socially during the time.

The movie is based on the novel by bestselling author Charles Frazier.

Source: http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/local_news/?ArID=50019&SecID=2

This is from a historian in NC and on Carolina news. :lol:

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 10:54 PM
This is what gets me...:fiery: It makes me mad to know that all these southern actors have to work to lose their accents only to have foreigners get to play southern roles...:( Also, the all southern accents are a like is bull shit....for example.....

Nicholas Sparks who wrote The Notebook and others lives in NC and one of his later books called Road to Rodanthe is set in NC. I listened to the Book on Tape with Mary Beth Williams. It irritated me because her southern accent was not a NC accent it was more a Georgi Southern Bell type accent.. It was so hard for me to even listen to her cause they kept saying NC, NC but I kept hearing this Georgia or some other state's accent...:sad:

:haha: Isn't that the truth?!? I mean, can't they hear the difference? It's clear as a bell. And also different social classes in the south have different accents too. A professor from Alabama has a different accent than a factory worker. I spent about 4 days once going around the Mississippi delta once. The most lovely accent ever. After two days when I called into the office, my secretary was saying what is wrong with you? because I was saying rivah and the like. You just can't be there without talking like that. And I love that accent from the North Carolina piedmont too. ooout. And that's where I learned the expression "carry" for "take" As in, I have to carry my cat to the vet. cracks me up.

And as for Rene's character, wasn't Ruby a black woman in the book? I know it may not have been said directly, but it sure seemed that way to me.

decemberlove
Dec 28th, 2003, 10:57 PM
oh please. dont hate on alexander just cos someone that is anticipating the movie doesnt like cold mountain. how fucking immature. save that shit for gm, alright? farrell will do a fine job, just as he did in tigerland and minority report.

i dont understand why everyone is so fixated on the accent. truth is, the accent of that time in NC is entirely different from the accent of now in NC. even if they used only actors native to NC, the old NC residents of the civil war would be turning in their graves cos the accent portrayed is nothing like their accent of old.

so fucking get over it.

anyway, i plan on seeing it soon.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:03 PM
And it goes on and on. Mind you, of course some critics don't like it. But this film isn't for everybody. Mostly the very best critics like it.

Right. This movie is only for geniuses like yourself who can appreciate TRUE art. Not like the rest of us neadrathals. We simply wouldn't understand.

*pukes on Sam*

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:08 PM
Here are the N.Y. Times critics 10 best movie lists.

Elvis Mitchell
1. Pirates of the Carribean
2. 21 Grams
3. The Triplets of Bellville
4. Elephant
5. Capturing the Friedmans
6. Lost in Translation
7. Raising Vicor Vargas
8. American Splendor
9. LTOR
10. The Good the Bad and the Ugly... full lenght rerelease.

A.O. Scott
1. Master and Commander
2. Mystic River
3. The Son (french)
4. Spellbound (documentary)
5. The Barbarian Invasions
6. The Man without a Past
7. The Triplets of Bellville
8. Finding Nemo
9. Bus 174
10. A Mighty Wind

Stephen Holden
1. Angels in America (a tv movie for HBO)
2. Mystic River
3. Fog of War
4. Capturing the Friedmans
5. Lost in Translation
6. House of Sand and Fog
7. The Barbarian Invasions
8. American Splendor
9. Thirteen
10. City of God

So among the "best" critics, CM didn't make the top ten lists.

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:11 PM
The New York Times review of Cold Mountain.

Starring Brendan Gleeson, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Nicole Kidman, Renée Zellweger, Jude Law, Ray Winstone. Directed by Anthony Minghella. (R, 155 minutes). As they might have said in the old days, this sweeping historical romance, which begins like a war movie and ends like a western, is one heck of a classy picture — which is both its great virtue and its limitation. This latest holiday literary adaptation from Miramax has the usual trappings of prestige — an award-winning novel as its source, a parade of top-notch filmmaking and acting talent — but it also has touches of intelligence and humor that separate it from such lifeless offerings as "Chocolat" and "The Cider House Rules." Nicole Kidman, playing an over-civilized preacher's daughter stranded on a North Carolina farm during the Civil War, has never been lovelier. Her unfiltered movie-star charisma makes the character both irresistible and a little unbelievable. Jude Law is her long-lost lover, a Confederate soldier trudging homeward and meeting up with a procession of Hollywood hillbillies along the way. Anthony Minghella's dour seriousness is mitigated by his evident love of pageantry and spectacle, and the movie, in the best old Hollywood tradition, adds up to a mountain of honest corn. It's far from a great movie, but it has enough great-movie touches — lovely scenery, a richly layered soundtrack, a handful of diverting secondary performances (notably Renée Zellwegger, as Ruby, Ms. Kidman's no-nonsense backwoods helpmeet, and Brendan Gleeson as Ruby's wayward, fiddle-playing father), a pair of attractive stars — to make you wish it were one. — A. O. Scott, The New York Times

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:14 PM
Weeks?????

It's been months!!!!

Rocketta
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:32 PM
oh please. dont hate on alexander just cos someone that is anticipating the movie doesnt like cold mountain. how fucking immature. save that shit for gm, alright? farrell will do a fine job, just as he did in tigerland and minority report.

i dont understand why everyone is so fixated on the accent. truth is, the accent of that time in NC is entirely different from the accent of now in NC. even if they used only actors native to NC, the old NC residents of the civil war would be turning in their graves cos the accent portrayed is nothing like their accent of old.

so fucking get over it.

anyway, i plan on seeing it soon.

how do you know the accents, the current heavy accents aren't the same or close to it? Yes the current vocabulary is very different but how do we/you know the tone, inclination, & pitch isn't the same in the heavy accents as it was?

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:35 PM
how do you know the accents, the current heavy accents aren't the same or close to it? Yes the current vocabulary is very different but how do we/you know the tone, inclination, & pitch isn't the same in the heavy accents as it was?
Um, did you see my article: "Historians praise Cold Mountain" ?

Rocketta
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:36 PM
Um, did you see my article: "Historians praise Cold Mountain" ?

No why would i? Did I say the accents weren't authentic in Cold Mountain?

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:37 PM
Well, one of the reasons I am fixated on the accents is because it's dammed annoying. Just think what it would be like if they had someone from Colorado speaking like someone from New York. It's just as irritating to hear some ladled on accent that isn't remotely authentic.

Some actors do really well at this and others..... don't.

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:39 PM
Sam, your article wasn't complimentary about the accents.

"We had southern accents that sorta came and went with some of the key characters," said historian Kris Carmichael. "But if one is drawn into the story one tends to ignore those facts after a while.

Rocketta
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:43 PM
Sam, your article wasn't complimentary about the accents.

"We had southern accents that sorta came and went with some of the key characters," said historian Kris Carmichael. "But if one is drawn into the story one tends to ignore those facts after a while.

Oh well there goes that theory....;) :shrug:

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:46 PM
Well here's a question. Who else would you cast in their roles aside from Jude Law and Nicole Kidman?

And don't say some unknowns, this is a $80 million movie, you need well-known actors in these roles. If you say, unknowns plucked from the streets of NC, you know nothing about the movie business.

And let's see:

- Did Vivien Leigh get the Georgian accent right in Gone with the Wind? The whole cast sounded more British to me.

- Does Michael Caine (two time Oscar winner) ever get accents right in his movies (aside from of course the British accent).

- Have you people actually seen The secrets of the Ya-ya sisterhood, the movie with truly bad southern accents?

- How about Big Fish, that's coming out. Ewan MacGregor attempts southern accents unsucessfully there. What about it?

If you want to see a documentary, go to the library.

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:46 PM
Sam, your article wasn't complimentary about the accents.

"We had southern accents that sorta came and went with some of the key characters," said historian Kris Carmichael. "But if one is drawn into the story one tends to ignore those facts after a while.
She said overall they were good. Did you not see that part?

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:52 PM
Well here's a question. Who else would you cast in their roles aside from Jude Law and Nicole Kidman?

And don't say some unknowns, this is a $80 million movie, you need well-known actors in these roles. If you say, unknowns plucked from the streets of NC, you know nothing about the movie business.

And let's see:

- Did Vivien Leigh get the Georgian accent right in Gone with the Wind? The whole cast sounded more British to me.

- Does Michael Caine (two time Oscar winner) ever get accents right in his movies (aside from of course the British accent).

- Have you people actually seen The secrets of the Ya-ya sisterhood, the movie with truly bad southern accents?

- How about Big Fish, that's coming out. Ewan MacGregor attempts southern accents unsucessfully there. What about it?

If you want to see a documentary, go to the library.

Actually there are many documentaries shown in theaters. Also it would be impossible to have a documentary about this period since there was no film at that time. :)

Saying that some movies did worse with the accents isn't saying this one was good.

And I reread the article. There was this quote, but I didn't think it applied to the accents.
"By and large I think they did a good job."

Also I've read other reviews that said the accents were spotty.

Did you see the review from the N.Y. Times that I posted?

Sam L
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:54 PM
If you're not interested, why are you in this thread? :confused:

starr
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:56 PM
When did I say I wasn't interested?

I am interested in your facination. I am interested in your constant hyping of the movie. I think it is interesting that you don't get the "best" critics' reviews and post them.

Rocketta
Dec 28th, 2003, 11:58 PM
hmm, they could've had Michael C. Hall as the male lead... Not only is he an accomplished actor he's from NC too.

There are plenty of Southern actresses that at least wouldn't have to hide foreign accents as well as try to have a NC accent....

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2003, 12:01 AM
hmm, they could've had Michael C. Hall as the male lead... Not only is he an accomplished actor he's from NC too.

There are plenty of Southern actresses that at least wouldn't have to hide foreign accents as well as try to have a NC accent....
Such as?

I've never heard of Michael C. Hall.

starr
Dec 29th, 2003, 12:04 AM
hmm, they could've had Michael C. Hall as the male lead... Not only is he an accomplished actor he's from NC too.

There are plenty of Southern actresses that at least wouldn't have to hide foreign accents as well as try to have a NC accent....

At least Zellweger is from Texas, although that's a far cry from N.C.

I did not know that Michael C. Hall was from N.C.

Whats her name....... Ashley Judd. She's from the south... by way of points west. Tennessee.

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2003, 12:08 AM
Well I did have my alternatives: Matthew McConaughey and Julia Roberts. But this would've meant it would've been a critical disaster. No critic would take this film seriously if they had been cast.

Ashley Judd is real nice possibility, she's a good actress, but she's just not big enough in star power.

When you have this big a production, you need star power. It's sad, but true.

Something like the Lord of the Rings films can pull people without star power, if the novels are like 50 years old and have legions of geeks as fans.

But not novels that are 5 years old, no matter how big of a best-seller they were when they came out.

starr
Dec 29th, 2003, 12:09 AM
hmmm. I thought Seabiscuit did just fine without some big juicy movie star.

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2003, 12:16 AM
hmmm. I thought Seabiscuit did just fine without some big juicy movie star.
LOL you gotta be kidding me. Tobey Maguire? THE Mr. Spiderman? Jeff Bridges? Chris Cooper? Cooper is at least on the level of Law. Need to keep in mind that Law has mainly been a supporting player in most films before Cold Mountain.

And people have been praising his subtle, quiet performance.

starr
Dec 29th, 2003, 12:20 AM
Chris Cooper is an actor that is hardly recognized. He's no heartthrob that's for sure. And Jeff Bridges is not a juicy movie star either.

Jude Law has had big big parts. Enemy at the Gates. He carried that movie.

Anyway, I'm not slagging Jude Law. I think he is a fine actor.

But, lol, his performance would have to be "quiet" because Inman rarely speaks in the book. :)

I think Kidman is a chilly actress who has an annoying presence in most movies.

CC
Dec 29th, 2003, 12:35 AM
I like Kidman as an actress (although Moulin Rouge was horrid, what were they thinking?) She was very good in the hours.

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2003, 01:17 AM
hence he must not be any good :lol:

starr you're right, this obsession is too funny- i'm enjoying it also- always good for entertainment when one is bored..Hi Rockie- from the trailers I saw, Nicole's accent sounds horrible :D
Where did I say he wasn't good? Just the mere fact that he's not well-known enough means that he cannot be cast as a lead in a $80million+ film. You realize what a financial risk it is to make films like these?

Luckily, this film is doing very well and doesn't need help from people like you.

Rocketta
Dec 29th, 2003, 03:51 AM
Where did I say he wasn't good? Just the mere fact that he's not well-known enough means that he cannot be cast as a lead in a $80million+ film. You realize what a financial risk it is to make films like these?

Luckily, this film is doing very well and doesn't need help from people like you.

So are you saying that the material isn't enough to carry a movie they needed a big name too? :hehehe:

Anyway, Michael C. Hall is an emmy, golden globe, and I believe Tony nominated actor since you love those things....

Also, Sandra Bullock is a southern Girl. She's from Virginia and went to college in NC..That would be ECU....:)

Rocketta
Dec 29th, 2003, 03:53 AM
hence he must not be any good :lol:

starr you're right, this obsession is too funny, as well as the high and mighty attitude- i'm enjoying it also- always good for entertainment when one is bored..Hi Rockie- from the trailers I saw, Nicole's accent sounds horrible :D

going to check the trailer right now..... :bolt:

Rocketta
Dec 29th, 2003, 04:17 AM
Hi Rockie- from the trailers I saw, Nicole's accent sounds horrible :D

ok, all I can say is good gracious alive, good googly moogly, those accents from Jude Law and Nicole Kidman are well there really are no words for it.

I see all the reviews go from A to C-.....

My favorite Movie Critic is Roger Ebert and he gave it a B....Here's his finally paragraph about the movie...


By the end of the film, you admire the artistry and the care, you know that the actors worked hard and are grateful for their labors, but you wonder who in God's name thought this was a promising scenario for a movie. It's not a story, it's an idea. Consider even the letters that Ada and Inman write to each other. You can have a perfectly good love story based on correspondence, but only, I think, if the letters arrive, are read and are replied to. There are times when we feel less like the audience than like the post office.

Here's what the guy who gave it a C- says


The cast, as a whole, disappoints. Recognizable stars may populate this Mountain, but few get much to do. Each actor brings his or her own flawed interpretation of a classic Southern accent to the table. The cast of Hee Haw sounded more authentic. Kidman’s monosyllabic line-readings turn Ada into a wax caricature of a porcelain Southern belle. Thankfully Zellweger’s no-nonsense worker bee buzzes through Kidman’s suffocating pretensions like a hot knife through butter.

Here's what a guy who gives it an A- says


A solid cast plays the backwoods Southerners extremely well. Nicole Kidman is allowed to look entirely too glamorous for the period and her character's dire situation, but she does capture the yearning and hopes of a young woman waiting for her soldier to return from an increasingly senseless war. Renee Zellweger completely disappears into the person of the feisty farm girl who rescues Kidman's helpless gentlewoman farmer. While Jude Law is at times cool and remote, he makes you feel a soldier's war weariness and his determination to walk home from the battlefield.


However, every place that I have seen the user's reviews are always a letter lower than the critics which is weird cause usually isn't it the other way around? Critics are usually a lot harder on a picture than the general public.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 29th, 2003, 05:18 AM
Luckily, this film is doing very well and doesn't need help from people like you.


Indeed. I'm sure that the people behind this movie will breathe easy knowing that us neadrathals want nothing to do with them. Goodness knows that they care who their money comes from. Genuis money and neandrathal money... it's just not the same.

Unrelated, but Jude Law is pretty hot. I might see this someday entirely for that reason. Nicole really does nothing for me, but I don't doubt her talent.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 29th, 2003, 05:21 AM
There are few movies that I would go to just for the actors starring in it... I make exception for Edward Norton (because he's phenomenal) and Tobey NcGuire (um, except Spiderman. What was he thinking? Wait.. I'll answer for you: $$.)

Then there are a couple that I will see if the opportunity arises, not because I think they are great actors, but because they are hot. I forget who right now, but I know when I see them :p

uh... what was this thread about again? ;)

GBFH
Dec 29th, 2003, 05:31 AM
hugh jackman....mmmm....

Crazy Canuck
Dec 29th, 2003, 05:40 AM
hugh jackman....mmmm....
Ah, yes. He's one of the other ones I'll go see strictly for sexy reasons.

Rocketta
Dec 29th, 2003, 05:50 AM
Umm, what's the definition of well for a movie that cost over $80 million? :confused:

It made less than 15million on it's opening 3-day weekend and $19mill for it's 5-day opening weekend. Cheaper by the Dozen made twice that and we won't talk about LOTR's....

I thought a 3-day gross of $24 mill was suppose to be big time? :shrug:

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2003, 05:56 AM
Umm, what's the definition of well for a movie that cost over $80 million? :confused:

It made less than 15million on it's opening 3-day weekend and $19mill for it's 5-day opening weekend. Cheaper by the Dozen made twice that and we won't talk about LOTR's....

I thought a 3-day gross of $24 mill was suppose to be big time? :shrug:
This is an R-rated movie that's two and half hours long. Trust me, it's relying on legs, it'll make back it's money and some in the next few months.

And success, I'm talking about its 8 Golden Globe nominations. It's only the beginning.

Buzz from Academy screenings is that it's a success, it's going to sweep the awards.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 29th, 2003, 05:58 AM
The English Patient didn't fare too badly at the Oscars, and I never watched that one either ;)

Crazy Canuck
Dec 29th, 2003, 05:58 AM
and I thought that you said the "buzz" was that ROTK would run away with the "big" awards (aside from the acting ones, that is). Make up your mind ;)

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2003, 06:00 AM
And Rocketta it made $19million in 4 days. It's a 4 day long weekend, not 5.

Crazy, nevermind the other things I say, it's all a part of my grand plan. ;)

raquel
Dec 29th, 2003, 06:00 AM
Buzz from Academy screenings is that it's a success, it's going to sweep the awards.
Including Renee? For some reason she has become my favourite actress recently, I want her to win an Oscar :)

King Satan
Dec 29th, 2003, 06:02 AM
sam, do you realize that you're making ppl hate this movie, instead of liking it?

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 29th, 2003, 06:04 AM
sam, do you realize that you're making ppl hate this movie, instead of liking it?
:worship: That's how I hate this movie, Sam!

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2003, 06:04 AM
Including Renee? For some reason she has become my favourite actress recently, I want her to win an Oscar :)
The fix is in, Renee's walking away with the Oscar, no ifs or buts. Don't be surprised if she sweeps BFCA, BAFTA, Golden Globes, SAG and just about every other big award along the way.

Satan, that's because you keep coming into every Cold Mountain thread when you have no interest. Why don't you go away and take Rocketta, Crazy, Alex with you too? :rolleyes:

There are people browsing these sites who may not post, but they'll see this.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 29th, 2003, 06:40 AM
The fix is in, Renee's walking away with the Oscar, no ifs or buts. Don't be surprised if she sweeps BFCA, BAFTA, Golden Globes, SAG and just about every other big award along the way.

Satan, that's because you keep coming into every Cold Mountain thread when you have no interest. Why don't you go away and take Rocketta, Crazy, Alex with you too? :rolleyes:

There are people browsing these sites who may not post, but they'll see this.
You mean, you'd like it if everybody who disagrees with you to not enter your threads? My boy... messageboards are obviously not the place for you ;)

King Satan
Dec 29th, 2003, 06:49 AM
my friend saw this movie. he said it's the most retarded movie ever made! he said that nicole was horrible!

what's up with that? i thought it was supposed to be good? :confused:

Crazy Canuck
Dec 29th, 2003, 07:42 AM
my friend saw this movie. he said it's the most retarded movie ever made! he said that nicole was horrible!

what's up with that? i thought it was supposed to be good? :confused:
Your friend is obviously a neadrathal ;)

DunkMachine
Dec 29th, 2003, 07:50 AM
A neanderthal with taste! Oops :tape:

jd4eva
Dec 29th, 2003, 09:15 AM
I love it how Sam ignores all the negative reviews of Cold Mountain.

It seems he has selective reading.

~ The Leopard ~
Dec 29th, 2003, 09:22 AM
Poor Sam. He's just a li'l enthusiastic.

Geri
Dec 29th, 2003, 04:46 PM
I saw this on Saturday and it was quite good but I got dragged along to see it by my soppy cousin who loves crying at films. Strange girl. I was dead angry cos I wanted to see Elf :fiery:
Nicole and Jude are good but Nicole looked too immaculate even when out working hard she is there with full hair and make up :lol: Renne Zellwegger annoys me normally especially in B. Jones Diary but if she had not turned up I would have drifted off to sleep I think. It is good but I want to see Elf still!!

starr
Dec 29th, 2003, 08:02 PM
Well the hair thing is one more annoying part. At that time and place, a woman of culture and breeding would never wear her hair "down." It was considered loose/lowclass. Having hair down would have been considered far too sexual. Even if a woman of her class had been working in the fields her hair would have been slicked back into a bun. And they didn't have tendrils hanging down either. :)

GBFH
Dec 29th, 2003, 08:15 PM
my sister wants mom to pay her way to see this movie...she keeps trying to convince us it's not because she lusts after jude law. oh so transparent.

i'd like to see it, though...i enjoy period pieces.

shap_half
Dec 29th, 2003, 08:32 PM
oh please. dont hate on alexander just cos someone that is anticipating the movie doesnt like cold mountain. how fucking immature. save that shit for gm, alright? farrell will do a fine job, just as he did in tigerland and minority report.

i dont understand why everyone is so fixated on the accent. truth is, the accent of that time in NC is entirely different from the accent of now in NC. even if they used only actors native to NC, the old NC residents of the civil war would be turning in their graves cos the accent portrayed is nothing like their accent of old.

so fucking get over it.

anyway, i plan on seeing it soon.


you can get over yourself...i'm not hating on alexander for anything. you want to watch alexander, go for it. but don't knock cold mountain for "historical inaccuracy" and "poor actor selection" and then say that alexander is the movie for you.

~ The Leopard ~
Dec 29th, 2003, 09:50 PM
you can get over yourself...i'm not hating on alexander for anything. you want to watch alexander, go for it. but don't knock cold mountain for "historical inaccuracy" and "poor actor selection" and then say that alexander is the movie for you.

Where did she do that?

bh440
Dec 29th, 2003, 10:47 PM
ya REALLY wanna know where sam L gets all this from? Really? well, you asked. www.goldderby.com The forums are even more disfunctional and evil than this place... ;) :)

jd4eva
Dec 29th, 2003, 11:20 PM
omg. anyone who reads that place voluntarily on a consistent basis has issues.

anyone who adopts the opinions of other posters on there is simply deranged.

Sam L
Dec 29th, 2003, 11:34 PM
omg. anyone who reads that place voluntarily on a consistent basis has issues.

anyone who adopts the opinions of other posters on there is simply deranged.
You're deranged. The only reason you're even in this thread is because I attacked your precious Beyonce. Oh how shallow and childish.

bh440, true, I go to GoldDerby, but I get most of my info from my subscription with Variety Magazine.

And you want a bad review? Fine, here you go.

Rolling Stone
While she oozes charisma and has a fine voice, Beyonce isn't in a class with the likes of Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey as a singer. [24 Jul 2003, p.86]

Flak Magazine
Beyoncé never met a ballad she didn't like. Out of Dangerously in Love's 14 tracks, a staggering eight are the kind of overwrought, no-tempo love songs even Toni Braxton has the sense to avoid.

:lol:

And as I've said before Cold Mountain's negative reviews from JoBlo's don't matter. As long as the BIG publications have raves on it (and they do), it's all that matters.

King Satan
Dec 29th, 2003, 11:35 PM
omg. anyone who reads that place voluntarily on a consistent basis has issues.

anyone who adopts the opinions of other posters on there is simply deranged.
or stupid :tape:

Diya
Dec 29th, 2003, 11:45 PM
:rolleyes: @ people who are trashing a film (rather hating on it ) just because someone likes it a lot and hence promotes the film (he might go a lil overboard in ya opinions but that doesn't mean the movie is bad )

CC
Dec 30th, 2003, 12:01 AM
I agree, why hating a movie just because someone is passionnate about it? :scratch:

Anyway if people want to hate it, here are some comments to support it: ;)

"Terrible and slow-moving. Kidman and Law lack chemistry. "
-- Victoria Alexander

"It's difficult to tell whether Minghella chronically miscasts these epics, or if his mediocre direction stifles the cast he ends up with."
-- Jeffrey M. Anderson

"Minghella tries too hard here, carefully placing every element but stupidly forgetting to include any feeling."
--Josh Bell

"When all of your supporting characters are more compelling and charismatic than your leads, your movie is in trouble."
-- Rob Blackwelder

"Is Nicole Kidman contractually obligated to interact with birds in all her films?"
-- Ed Gonzalez

"The opening 45 minutes are among the worst of the year. They epitomize everything wrong with Hollywood today; melodramatic, clichéd, cheesy, overblown, and repetitive."
-- Gabe Leibowitz

"scaling a mountain might be easier than swallowing this pompous bag of feed"
-- Sean O'Connell

"With zero on-screen chemistry, Jude Law and Nicole Kidman star in ... a snoozer that is long, literary and lifeless."
-- Steve Rhodes

Goodness gracious. :eek:

Maybe I should go see it so I can give my definitive opinion and end all this back and forthing on the matter.

jd4eva
Dec 30th, 2003, 01:12 AM
Sam L: Exactly where did I mention Beyonce in this thread. For your information, Beyonce is not even close to being my favourite singer so your assumption that I am in this thread for that reason is stupid.

Now, I didn't say that you were deranged did I? You were the one who assumed I meant you, so you obviously do adopt the opinions on that boadr as your own, despite claiming that most of you ropinions come from Variety magazine. Such a shame one cannot formulate their own opinions based on their own perception. A good review of Cold Mountain does not validate your existence.

starr
Dec 30th, 2003, 01:30 AM
You're deranged. The only reason you're even in this thread is because I attacked your precious Beyonce. Oh how shallow and childish.

bh440, true, I go to GoldDerby, but I get most of my info from my subscription with Variety Magazine.

And you want a bad review? Fine, here you go.

Rolling Stone
While she oozes charisma and has a fine voice, Beyonce isn't in a class with the likes of Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey as a singer. [24 Jul 2003, p.86]

Flak Magazine
Beyoncé never met a ballad she didn't like. Out of Dangerously in Love's 14 tracks, a staggering eight are the kind of overwrought, no-tempo love songs even Toni Braxton has the sense to avoid.

:lol:

And as I've said before Cold Mountain's negative reviews from JoBlo's don't matter. As long as the BIG publications have raves on it (and they do), it's all that matters.

So you don't consider The New York Times a BIG publication? They don't give it a rave at all. Also Roger Ebert didn't give it a rave review although he did find some things to admire about it. You say that the BIG publications gave it rave reviews but I haven't seen a BIG publication that does give it a rave review.

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 01:48 AM
So you don't consider The New York Times a BIG publication? They don't give it a rave at all. Also Roger Ebert didn't give it a rave review although he did find some things to admire about it. You say that the BIG publications gave it rave reviews but I haven't seen a BIG publication that does give it a rave review.
Time / Richard Corliss:
A grand and poignant movie epic about what is lost in war and what's worth saving in life. It is also a rare blend of purity and maturity -- the year's most rapturous love story.

And New York Times' A.O.Scott loved the movie too and gave it 4/5 stars. What are you talking about?

Roger Ebert gave it 3/4. So so. So what, it's not loved by everyone.

Did I say it was loved by everyone? :rolleyes:

I'm telling people on this board because some might be interested out there. If you're not interested, why are you in here? Have you NO life?

jd4eva
Dec 30th, 2003, 01:50 AM
Bajangurl: Let me clarify my statement. I've yet to watch Cold Mountain, however I can already state that the subject matter does not appeal to me, which I have stated earlier in the thread. I have also stated that Sam needs to realise that simply because he likes something it doesn't mean that the rest of us has to feel the same way. This does not make us intellectually inept, as Sam would try and have us believe.

Sam, also, has never watched the movie and yet adopts the opinions of others as his own. This is fine, but it crosses the line when he constantly tries to shove his rhetoric down our throats at every second and when we don't agree with him he tries to portray himself as a pseudo-intellectual and us as unworthy cretins.

jd4eva
Dec 30th, 2003, 01:52 AM
Have you no life?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

You have stated on several occasions that Cold Mountain is receiving overwhelming critical praise. You have shown us 2 or 3 positive reviews while there have been 3 or 4 times as many bad reviews.

That's overwhelming alright. Overwhelmingly bad.

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 01:55 AM
Bajangurl: Let me clarify my statement. I've yet to watch Cold Mountain, however I can already state that the subject matter does not appeal to me, which I have stated earlier in the thread. I have also stated that Sam needs to realise that simply because he likes something it doesn't mean that the rest of us has to feel the same way. This does not make us intellectually inept, as Sam would try and have us believe.

Sam, also, has never watched the movie and yet adopts the opinions of others as his own. This is fine, but it crosses the line when he constantly tries to shove his rhetoric down our throats at every second and when we don't agree with him he tries to portray himself as a pseudo-intellectual and us as unworthy cretins.
This thread was started by shap_half not me. I wasn't just arguing against Bacardi's assinine attacks on the film.

No, I only paint you as a cretin when you constantly comes into a Cold Mountain thread saying how much you hate the movie. Say it once and leave, moron.

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 01:57 AM
Pot. Kettle. Black.

You have stated on several occasions that Cold Mountain is receiving overwhelming critical praise. You have shown us 2 or 3 positive reviews while there have been 3 or 4 times as many bad reviews.

That's overwhelming alright. Overwhelmingly bad.
I don't know what's worse, someone's who's passionate about a film or someone's who's passionate in attacking another person just because he happens to be passionate about a film.

A question: why do you care?

I care because I'm reaching out to those who will agree with me, and there are plenty.

You care because of petty reasons. Because I don't like a singer you like and you're angry. Boo hoo.

Diya
Dec 30th, 2003, 01:58 AM
and thus why all the 'hating' on Sam L, Diya, not the movie- btw- why don't you go back to 'hating' on the Williams in GM and stay out of normal people conversations- :wavey:

Lol ....last time i checked i was told that i am allowed to post whereever i want whenever i want :rolleyes:Sorry but i don't come here to please anyone but myself (like most other 'abnormal' people)


its jusy fun making fun of Sam go on and on and on and on and on about this movie- only for him to make another thread a few months from now, when Cold Mountain does win some oscars, saying I Told You Guys So- once again proving nothing but the Hollywood machine and some good acting will win oscars :)


...and what do you prove by making fun of a movie that you dislike just because someone else seems "obsessed" with it ? that you are "normal" huh ?....is that what "normal" people like you do ? I guess i am better off being abnormal then ... :rolleyes:
:tape:

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:00 AM
you didn't need to clarify for me ;) I just wanted to use that one line from your post on how perceptions matter- but anyway, seems like its lost on our friend. I agree, with said post- I'm having a bit of fun at Sam's expense but all your above points are why I am making fun ;)
Oh I'm having fun too!

Cold Mountain has 8 Golden Globe nominations and has made almost $20million at box office in about 5 days. ;)

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:00 AM
Diya, ignore idiots like them. :wavey: What you said is truth and they have difficulty handling it.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:01 AM
Roger Ebert gave it 3/4. So so. So what, it's not loved by everyone.

As you said, this movie isn't for everybody. Obviously Roger Ebert is a neadrathal who can't appreciate fine literature and film the way that you can ;)

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:02 AM
Oh I'm having fun too!

Cold Mountain has 8 Golden Globe nominations and has made almost $20million at box office in about 5 days. ;)
Congratulations, Sam. Clearly you have played a big role in this movie's success and have thus earned bragging rights. (am I in GM, and nobody told me? I feel like I'm talking to insane player fans)

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:04 AM
Diya, ignore idiots like them. :wavey: What you said is truth and they have difficulty handling it.
Yes, ignore us idiots. We're obviously neadrathals who are below you. So is Robert Ebert. I feel like I'm in okay company.

jd4eva
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:06 AM
Say it once and leave moron

First of all, good job resorting to name calling in order to try and strengthen your argument. Really intellectual. Secondly the same can be said of your opinion. You love Cold Mountain, we get it. We don't need 100 threads (exaggeration if you don't get it) started by you professing your undying love for a movie you have yet to see.

Also despite your apparent disdain for people continually stating their distate of the movie, you still fuind it acceptable to attack Beyonce at every point. I say its time you practise what you preach and say it once and once only.

You're passionate about the movie? I'm sorry but you're past passionate onto violently obsessed. There are lots of people on this board passionate about things, yet I doubt any of them are attacked as much as you are.

For most people that would mean something, yet your comprehension skills are seriously lacking and I think that everyone here should let you continue in your delusional world.

I dont understand how anyone can preach about a movie and claim to love it already when they havent even seen it. Excited, fine, anticipating you will like it based on the topic, fine, but based on reviews of a few people?

Don't make this into a humanitarian cause. There's no need to "reach out to people. It's a fucking movie and its time you treated it like one.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:07 AM
I don't know what's worse, someone's who's passionate about a film or someone's who's passionate in attacking another person just because he happens to be passionate about a film.

A question: why do you care?

I care because I'm reaching out to those who will agree with me, and there are plenty.

You care because of petty reasons. Because I don't like a singer you like and you're angry. Boo hoo.
Sam - cut the bullshit. You aren't merely getting excited about a film and trying to "reach out to people" *vomits on Sam* You are being a condescending shithead to anybody who posts a negative review. If you don't want to deal with opposing opinions, get the fuck off the internet, bud.

That is all ;)

cellophane
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:07 AM
I hate all those Hollywood epics with a passion; Roger Ebert is retarded. As for Nicole, I think I'd rather see Dogville (although it will probably be crap, but I still wanna see it)... :lol:

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:10 AM
Crazy Canuck is just jealous because her favourite movie is not as successful as "Cold Mountain". ;)
*twitches violently*

Not true! Not true!

jd4eva
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:18 AM
*twitches violenty*

Not true! Not true!

Sam, is that you?

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:21 AM
Well I for one think this thread is hilarious!

I find it funny that Sam of all people typed, "Say it once and move on." :lol:

That was worth the price of admission, really. :lol: :lol: :lol::

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:28 AM
LMAO :lol:

Hey Becs- long time no see, i hate to divert this wonderful review of Cold Moutian to say hey but I think I have channeled you tonight :devil:
Hello :devil:

It's all good... I went off topic early by discussing Norton and McGuire for no better reason than the fact that I felt like it.

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:29 AM
:lol: ya'll just cracking me up tonight- stop those movie puns- this is a serious, historical film with brilliant displays of old NC accents- it should be taken seriously, stop at once you confounded jackasses :lol:

omg, Nicole sounds bad.....:sad:

I can understand how people who don't hear southern accents everyday would think they are getting the accents kind of right but DAYUUUUUUUUM!! NOT!

She'll probably win the oscar cause they always pick the best actor/actress.....:unsure:


:haha:

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:29 AM
Speaking of Tobey McGuire... despite the fact that I'm a fan of his acting skills, I've taken to calling him "puberty boy" lately. HIs voice always sounds like it's going to crack, and he looks 16. Is it just me to sees this?

jd4eva
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Rocketta you mis-readd!

He said 'Say it once moron"

Now we really look the neanderathals Sam takes us for ;)

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:32 AM
omg, Nicole sounds bad.....:sad:

I can understand how people who don't hear southern accents everyday would think they are getting the accents kind of right but DAYUUUUUUUUM!! NOT!

She'll probably win the oscar cause they always pick the best actor/actress.....:unsure:


:haha:
She may not win the Oscar, but she'll get many other awards along the way.

What does Beyonce have again? LOL MTV Video music awards. Yes for flashing her boobs at horny teen boys. :lol:

Mateo Mathieu
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:39 AM
Cate Blanchett will take the best actress award in the Golden Globe and Oscars :wavey:

Cate is much better acting than Nicole, you know that as well, Sam.

Cate's next movie would be "Hot Mountain" :devil: :lol:

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:41 AM
She may not win the Oscar, but she'll get many other awards along the way.

What does Beyonce have again? LOL MTV Video music awards. Yes for flashing her boobs at horny teen boys. :lol:

Actually Beyonce is up for many Grammys but like you said in that thread, a Grammy doesn't mean anything. They are sorry.

:haha:

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:43 AM
on to more imporatnt things- *thanks God *you said you are a fan of his acting skills because that boy does look like a mid-pubescent boy- he's cute in that lil' boy way :)

Now Jude- is HOT but not even that will make me see the movie- I'll wait for the HBO Sat. special, thank you Sam :D

hmm, I'll probably watch it when it comes out on DVD but I won't be putting it to the top of my Netflix Queue that's for sure. ;)

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:44 AM
on to more imporatnt things- *thanks God *you said you are a fan of his acting skills because that boy does look like a mid-pubescent boy- he's cute in that lil' boy way :)

Now Jude- is HOT but not even that will make me see the movie- I'll wait for the HBO Sat. special, thank you Sam :D
Glad to hear that it's not just me who noticed his obvious struggles with puberty. I suppose that he appeals to the under 12 crowd, though.

As for Jude Law... he's a different story :D

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:45 AM
Did I miss something? What does Beyonce have to do with Cold Mountain? Does she have a supporting role that Sam hasn't told us about? ;)

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:45 AM
Did I miss something? What does Beyonce have to do with Cold Mountain? Does she have a supporting role that Sam hasn't told us about? ;)

It's his other obsession. :shrug:

King Satan
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:49 AM
www.Sam.L.isdumb.com

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:51 AM
I also find it funny that Sam L talks about the Golden Globes and the Oscars as the pinnacle of recognition but when his other obsession gets a nomination in her field he has this to say...



Why does the Grammies recognize trash? :confused:



Well here's my question, why do the oscars recognize non southern accent having actresses? :confused:

King Satan
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:52 AM
rocky, look at the link :lol:

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:54 AM
rocky, look at the link :lol:

:haha:

You are a riot! :)

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 02:57 AM
nah sam website is: www.beyonceisa****andgoseecoldmountain.com ;)


it's not as funny when someone else thought it up first..:shrug:

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 03:06 AM
I also find it funny that Sam L talks about the Golden Globes and the Oscars as the pinnacle of recognition but when his other obsession gets a nomination in her field he has this to say...



Well here's my question, why do the oscars recognize non southern accent having actresses? :confused:
Because they're actors and they're supposed to pull of acting accents and if they do they get rewarded with awards.

At least they don't get up on stage strip and flash their boobs to get attention and awards. :o How embarassing for Beyonce, she's a joke. :o

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 03:07 AM
Because they're actors and they're supposed to pull of acting accents and if they do they get rewarded with awards.

At least they don't get up on stage strip and flash their boobs to get attention and awards. :o How embarassing for Beyonce, she's a joke. :o
Don't hate her because she's beautiful ;)

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 03:09 AM
Doesn't anybody think it's funny how Sam went on and on about how another poster was immature for coming in here to make fun of Cold Mountain in order to revolt against his Beyonce obsession... then he started going off on Beyonce? Surely one can see the hypocracy (and idiocy?) of this situation? ;)

King Satan
Dec 30th, 2003, 03:10 AM
Doesn't anybody think it's funny how Sam went on and on about how another poster was immature for coming in here to make fun of Cold Mountain in order to revolt against his Beyonce obsession... then he started going off on Beyonce? Surely one can see the hypocracy (and idiocy?) of this situation? ;)
www.Sam.L.isdumb.com :yeah:

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 03:50 AM
Doesn't anybody think it's funny how Sam went on and on about how another poster was immature for coming in here to make fun of Cold Mountain in order to revolt against his Beyonce obsession... then he started going off on Beyonce? Surely one can see the hypocracy (and idiocy?) of this situation? ;)

Its also called obsession.....;)

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 03:51 AM
Because they're actors and they're supposed to pull of acting accents and if they do they get rewarded with awards.

At least they don't get up on stage strip and flash their boobs to get attention and awards. :o How embarassing for Beyonce, she's a joke. :o


No its not Beyonce that's the joke, it's y:tape:


:lol:

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:10 AM
Haha, Joy. :)

Well this has been fun, It really has.:)

but all good things must come to an end and since I'm goind on vacation tomorrow..I have to say bye-bye to this thread and WtaWorld as a whole for a while...

so thanks for the fun guys....:wavey:

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:10 AM
No its not Beyonce that's the joke, it's y:tape:


:lol:
She's been found to be homophobic and disappointing her fans by not shaking her ass/tits on stage for more than an hour! :lol: She's a joke. If it weren't for looks/tits/ass, she'd be working at McDonald's. :lmao:

Rocketta
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:11 AM
She's been found to be homophobic and disappointing her fans by not shaking her ass/tits on stage for more than an hour! :lol: She's a joke. If it weren't for looks/tits/ass, she'd be working at McDonald's. :lmao:

Ok, :shrug:

I guess that would affect someone who paid to see her in concert or bought her album? Since I'm not one of those people all I can say is "Oh Well" :shrug:

:wavey:

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:22 AM
Haha, Joy. :)

Well this has been fun, It really has.:)

but all good things must come to an end and since I'm goind on vacation tomorrow..I have to say bye-bye to this thread and WtaWorld as a whole for a while...

so thanks for the fun guys....:wavey:
Good riddance and don't come back.

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:25 AM
She's been found to be homophobic and disappointing her fans by not shaking her ass/tits on stage for more than an hour! :lol: She's a joke. If it weren't for looks/tits/ass, she'd be working at McDonald's. :lmao:
...but either way it's all about the fries and the shake.... ;)

harloo
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:34 AM
At least they don't get up on stage strip and flash their boobs to get attention and awards. :o How embarassing for Beyonce, she's a joke. :o

Sam L, I know you saw Eyes Wide Shut where Nicole was taking off her clothes for Tom, showing her body off. I guess you think if you attack a person some posters like it will somehow make them upset. Well, it's not that serious dude. All of these entertainers and stars are not thinking about you, me or anybody but the next movie role, or concert. :lol:

You have a right to dislike Beyonce because you have your preference like everyone else. However, don't get upset because people think Cold Mountain is an inacurate potrayal of the Civil War period. It is a boring war epic which the old guard academy voters will love IMO.

Of course it will get alot of Oscar buzz, because I find that the majority of the time some damn Oscar movie gets some buzz it's not worth shit.

Just to name a few bad Oscar buzz movies:
-Leaving Las Vegas
-The Piano
- Nell
-American Beauty

All horrible movies, and cold mountain will be listed in that category also.

JMO!!! Don't get mad! :)

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:37 AM
Blasphemy! American Beauty is not a bad movie. It helped change the cinematic boundaries and reinvent a new style of movie making.

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:40 AM
Blasphemy! American Beauty is not a bad movie. It helped change the cinematic boundaries and reinvent a new style of movie making.
He likes movies like "The Fighting Temptations" with bad acting, cliched screenplays and zero originality. :lol:

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:43 AM
'TFT' was alright. I mean for what it was. I would never watch it again tho'. ;)

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:44 AM
'TFT' was alright. I mean for what it was. I would never watch it again tho'. ;)
...even tho it has BigBouncey in it....

harloo
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:45 AM
He likes movies like "The Fighting Temptations" with bad acting, cliched screenplays and zero originality. :lol:

I never said the fighting temptations was a good movie. As the only thing in the movie I like was the gospel music. Don't get it twisted, I'm not so blinded by a star's presence to act as if every movie they play in is superb.

Maybe you should stop obsessing over Nicole Kidman. You will then see that some of the movies she has done is crap.

BTW, American Beauty was a piece of crap. I was hyped to see this movie, and it was so off base and pointless. :lol:

King Satan
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:46 AM
sam doesn't like beyonce cos she's black! yup! that's the reason!

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:47 AM
We must have vastly differing opinions on 'good' then. :p I still think AB stands up against time.

GBFH
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:49 AM
We must have vastly differing opinions on 'good' then. :p I still think AB stands up against time.

erm, will...that guy in your avatar is very distracting.

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:50 AM
erm, will...that guy in your avatar is very distracting.
Yes Grace, that's the point. I don't have to be amusing, annectodal, or even relevant with the hottie looking in on me. :p

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:52 AM
I never said the fighting temptations was a good movie. As the only thing in the movie I like was the gospel music. Don't get it twisted, I'm not so blinded by a star's presence to act as if every movie they play in is superb.

Maybe you should stop obsessing over Nicole Kidman. You will then see that some of the movies she has done is crap.

BTW, American Beauty was a piece of crap. I was hyped to see this movie, and it was so off base and pointless. :lol:
Good grief, I don't even like Nicole Kidman that much. She's a fine actress and the best working in Hollywood today but that's not why I liked Cold Mountain in the first place, it's because I read the book. :rolleyes:

You need to stop running away with these assumptions.

harloo
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:54 AM
We must have vastly differing opinions on 'good' then. :p I still think AB stands up against time.


Doesn't difference of opinions make the world go round? It's amazing what one think is the best since sliced bread, is a worthless piece of cinephotograpy to others.

:) ;)

GBFH
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:54 AM
Yes Grace, that's the point. I don't have to be amusing, annectodal, or even relevant with the hottie looking in on me. :p

*drools

what?

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:55 AM
*drools

what?
What... I can't read what you're writing.
I'm sorry, say again.

:p

GBFH
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:56 AM
What... I can't read what you're writing.
I'm sorry, say again.

:p

*grins stupidly and bounces in chair to "let your head go"

:D

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:57 AM
Doesn't difference of opinions make the world go round? It's amazing what one think is the best since sliced bread, is a worthless piece of cinephotograpy to others.

:) ;)
Exactly! :yeah: There are plenty of Oscar winners that I think are pure crap on hot ice.... 'Titanic' being the first to my mind. That's so bad it's painful.

AjdeNate!
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:58 AM
*grins stupidly and bounces in chair to "let your head go"

:D
Great choice of tunes! I've brought you up right after all :p

I'm off to bed... 430 am alarm for work. :rolleyes: I don't wanna............................... (Ok, I'll quit whining now)

harloo
Dec 30th, 2003, 04:59 AM
Good grief, I don't even like Nicole Kidman that much. She's a fine actress and the best working in Hollywood today but that's not why I liked Cold Mountain in the first place, it's because I read the book. :rolleyes:

You need to stop running away with these assumptions.

Oh please Sam, don't sit up in here and front like you are not obsessed with Nicole Kidman. Everyone on here knows it. LOL You have managed to start your own self promotion of Nicole in everything from her oscar nominations to her movie roles, and you have constantly tried to shove Cold Mountain down everyone's throat on the board.

:lol: You are a total mess!! :lol:

GBFH
Dec 30th, 2003, 05:00 AM
Great choice of tunes! I've brought you up right after all :p

I'm off to bed... 430 am alarm for work. :rolleyes: I don't wanna............................... (Ok, I'll quit whining now)

we couldn't be married so long without you rubbing off after a while, eh? ;)

awwwwwww....nighty night!!!!!!

harloo
Dec 30th, 2003, 05:00 AM
Exactly! :yeah: There are plenty of Oscar winners that I think are pure crap on hot ice.... 'Titanic' being the first to my mind. That's so bad it's painful.

I will agree with you on that one. :D :)

Sam L
Dec 30th, 2003, 05:01 AM
Oh please Sam, don't sit up in here and front like you are not obsessed with Nicole Kidman. Everyone on here knows it. LOL You have managed to start your own self promotion of Nicole in everything from her oscar nominations to her movie roles, and you have constantly tried to shove Cold Mountain down everyone's throat on the board.

:lol: You are a total mess!! :lol:
Ok whatever, so now you think you know what my favorites are? :lol:

harloo
Dec 30th, 2003, 05:11 AM
Ok whatever, so now you think you know what my favorites are? :lol:

Oh Sam, you are in denial. :rolleyes: :sad:

Get help soon!!!!! :eek: :eek:

;) :D :)

King Satan
Dec 30th, 2003, 05:11 AM
"Stop making up lies you idiot. I always thought you were an idiot, now it's obvious you are one."

lol Sam, couldn't you have said that in here? instead of ruining my streak of good reps! :fiery: :lol:

wuneyej
Dec 30th, 2003, 05:33 AM
The following is a review I happen to completely agree with. I should mention, however, that the great majority of reviews I came across were very positive about the film. Anyway...

A film review by Sean O'Connell of www.filmcritic.com (http://www.filmcritic.com/misc/emporium.nsf/2a460f93626cd4678625624c007f2b46/af6b877c8ee6186788256dfe001a651a?OpenDocument):

Masterpiece Theater meets Mayberry in Anthony Minghella’s Cold Mountain, a stodgy and superfluous adaptation of Charles Frazier’s Civil War romance novel that’s every bit as unconvincing as it’s meant to be epic. Frigid and detached to the point of numbness, the passionless period piece is too staged, too dry, and too silly to matter, though Minghella earns bonus points for staying consistently dishonest and uneven from start to finish.

Minghella tells Mountain in two parts that fail to complement each other. In one, wounded Civil War soldier Inman (Jude Law) reaches his breaking point on Virginia’s blood-soaked battlefields and decides he can’t spend another day without his true love, Ada (Nicole Kidman). So he puts down his rifle and begins the long walk back to Cold Mountain, N.C. Meanwhile, back home, Ada struggles to maintain her father’s house after the man passes away in a disgustingly symbolic rainstorm. She accepts help from the town tomboy (Renée Zellweger) and learns a thing or two about patience, hope, and independence in the face of danger.

Minghella’s first mistake is major, and it’s one that ultimately dooms his picture’s course. For Mountain to rise above, we have to root for Inman and Ada’s potential reunion. Law and Kidman, though, are allowed scant few scenes to form their feeble connection as Minghella rushes through their budding romance. He demands we buy into their union instead of convincing us why they’d unite.

What was he hurrying towards? After separating his lovers, Minghella fills the remainder of his picture with insufferable storytelling gimmicks that ring with false importance. He handles his transitions with the grace and subtlety of a runaway freight train, forcing everything down our throats with heavy-handed symbolism and inane backwoods wisdom such as, “Bird got a job, shit got a job, seed got a job.”

The cast, as a whole, disappoints. Recognizable stars may populate this Mountain, but few get much to do. Each actor brings his or her own flawed interpretation of a classic Southern accent to the table. The cast of Hee Haw sounded more authentic. Kidman’s monosyllabic line-readings turn Ada into a wax caricature of a porcelain Southern belle. Thankfully Zellweger’s no-nonsense worker bee buzzes through Kidman’s suffocating pretensions like a hot knife through butter.

Inman’s faults belong to Minghella’s screenplay, not Law’s portrayal. Marching to each adventure like a love-starved Tom Sawyer, Inman stumbles on countless souls in need of salvation, from a constipated preacher (Philip Seymour Hoffman) to an underprivileged single mother (Natalie Portman). Sensing our need to cheer this man on, Mountain makes Inman the most pious, pure, and politically-correct soldier this side of the Mason-Dixon Line. The gaunt warrior becomes a Christ figure bringing either comfort, death, or a comfortable death to every life he touches. Then again, when the alternative is Hoffman discussing his bowel movements at length, I’ll take Law any day.

The fact that Minghella directed the equally extended and emotionally despondent The English Patient should surprise no one. Artistically challenged and abnormally unfocused, Mountain reduces the importance of its central love story and in the process does more damage to the nation’s perspective of the South than Deliverance and The Dukes of Hazzard combined. In retrospect, scaling a mountain might be easier than swallowing this pompous bag of feed.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 08:15 AM
He likes movies like "The Fighting Temptations" with bad acting, cliched screenplays and zero originality. :lol:

For the love of God - you've managed to have me defend both Beyonce and Harloo in the same thread. Can't you see what you've done?

He's entitled to his opinion. I disagree with him on a few of the movies that he listed as "crap", but my opinion of film is not final say. And neither is yours. Your opinion doesn't mean anymore than his. Your money is no better than his. And that's what it comes down to, silly. $$

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 08:17 AM
Good grief, I don't even like Nicole Kidman that much. She's a fine actress and the best working in Hollywood today but that's not why I liked Cold Mountain in the first place, it's because I read the book. :rolleyes:

You need to stop running away with these assumptions.

This coming from the same poster who assumes that he's the greatest film critic of all time, and the rest of us can't even hold a candle to him?

Please.

Pathetic.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 08:19 AM
Doesn't difference of opinions make the world go round? It's amazing what one think is the best since sliced bread, is a worthless piece of cinephotograpy to others.

:) ;)

*sigh* This whole "agreeing with harloo" thing - it MUST stop. Say something unreasonable, would ya?. See Sam for examples ;)

Kidding, kidding.

Myself, I liked American Beauty. But if we all liked the same things... well no need to get all cliche give a boring speech. I'll just echo what you said by quoting it ;)

Crazy Canuck
Dec 30th, 2003, 08:20 AM
Exactly! :yeah: There are plenty of Oscar winners that I think are pure crap on hot ice.... 'Titanic' being the first to my mind. That's so bad it's painful.

Ugh. That movie's script was so terrible, I'm surprised that anybody was willing to take credit for it. Horrific.

Pretty scenary and costumes though. Pretty Kate Winslet. Boo everything else.

~ The Leopard ~
Dec 30th, 2003, 08:42 AM
You guys still giving Sam a hard time?

decemberlove
Dec 30th, 2003, 05:01 PM
american beauty was an excellent movie. those that dont like it obviously didnt get it, or arent really into films that much. which is fine, but it says something about your opinion.

decemberlove
Dec 30th, 2003, 05:03 PM
Where did she do that?

i didnt. shap just cant stand middle of the road posts when he is so to the "right". obviously he didnt understand the point of my post. if you arent entirely with him, youre entirely against him. :rolleyes:

raquel
Jan 16th, 2004, 11:43 PM
I eventually went to see Cold Mountain tonight and absolutely loved it. I had read a lot of not so great reviews, but really wanted to see it and was so glad I did. Nicole Kidman was really great especially in the scenes with Renee. I thought Renee was brilliant. She really played it for laughs and it really came off. Jude Law was excellent also, although sometimes I thought was so busy drifting off looking at how handsome he was I didn't listen to what he was saying :o Natalie Portman was very good too for only being in the movie for a short time, she really made her mark. Anyway despite what some of the reviews think I would give it a chance if you haven't seen it yet as I really loved it even though I cried (twice) :o I just wish I went with my boyfriend instead of my two friends from work. He is back home this weekend so I am on my own now and in a very romantic and lovey-dovey mood :sad: I have just realised I am exactly the kind of person that the makers of that movie aim their marketing at - people who cry easily at films and get wrapped up in the story rather than examine whether it is portraying the war truthfully. But I don't care because I loved it :) Renee for an Oscar! :bounce:

Car Key Boi
Jan 17th, 2004, 01:31 AM
I eventually went to see Cold Mountain tonight and absolutely loved it. I had read a lot of not so great reviews, but really wanted to see it and was so glad I did. Nicole Kidman was really great especially in the scenes with Renee. I thought Renee was brilliant. She really played it for laughs and it really came off. Jude Law was excellent also, although sometimes I thought was so busy drifting off looking at how handsome he was I didn't listen to what he was saying :o Natalie Portman was very good too for only being in the movie for a short time, she really made her mark. Anyway despite what some of the reviews think I would give it a chance if you haven't seen it yet as I really loved it even though I cried (twice) :o I just wish I went with my boyfriend instead of my two friends from work. He is back home this weekend so I am on my own now and in a very romantic and lovey-dovey mood :sad: I have just realised I am exactly the kind of person that the makers of that movie aim their marketing at - people who cry easily at films and get wrapped up in the story rather than examine whether it is portraying the war truthfully. But I don't care because I loved it :) Renee for an Oscar! :bounce:
nice review :)

in due course, i will take Mrs Key Boi to said movie. Sounds like her cup of tea

thax hun :)

Mrs. Peel
Jan 17th, 2004, 01:45 AM
Exactly! :yeah: There are plenty of Oscar winners that I think are pure crap on hot ice.... 'Titanic' being the first to my mind. That's so bad it's painful.
OOOoooooo that movie was so bad! A friend who insisted I see it paid my admission. At the end I still wanted some compensation for sitting through that rubbish. :fiery:

Sam L
Oct 14th, 2005, 08:54 AM
This must've been the longest thread in WTAWORLD history for a single film.

So who's seen it? :p