the following FTS's have been brought to yuo courtesy of the Car Key Boi
Lincoln wanted to stop those Southern FOOLZ from quitting the union because of economic issues (tariffs, the Bank of the U.S., internal improvements blah) and not because the welfare of the black people was a primary concern for him
Lincoln was a white supremacist who wanted to deport all Africans out of America (check out "The Real Lincoln" forget the name of the author, but yuo can google it)
those Southern Foolz had the RIGHT to leave the union, but Lincoln ignored their rights
Bush, opps, i mean Lincoln, fought a war that wasn't JUSTIFIED, even thou it resulted in the aboliton of slavery, agreed?
DIDN'T THINK SO HIPPIES
that is a dilemma that will scramble yuor brains. So just ignore the question as yuo will have no logical answer that doesn't show up the weakness of yuor liberal hippie thinking
- Car Key Boi
Da Boi with the hippie heart and conservative head / knows the questions that libs cannot answer / D N T!
Dec 27th, 2003, 02:12 AM
I actually knew this for some time CKB. It's a fact that Lincoln had little concern in ending slavery for the welfare of the black peoples. He mostly wanted to send them back to their "home country". His sole purpose was to try to keep the South from separating, because the south wasn't ready for the industrial revolution which was going on in the north.
It's old news :wavey:
But maybe some people on here didn't know about it.
~ The Leopard ~
Dec 27th, 2003, 02:35 AM
I just wanted to try out this great emoticon that I saw GBFH use on another thread.
old news CKB but the abolitionist were in the mix too stirring stuff up and just because people of today skew historyy about Lincoln's motives doesn't mean when the war happened that people on both sides didn't know what they were really fighting for? They did. I don't think Lincoln made speeches that deluded anyone about his reasons for going to war? So where is the comparrison? :shrug:
hyper american flag thumping high schools even teach this pretty piece of information. its nothing new.
Dec 27th, 2003, 08:12 PM
It's because we start EVERYTHING...... the rest of the world is just trying to keep up with us. :haha:
That HIPPY IS OZZY OSBORNE! :eek:
Dec 27th, 2003, 08:32 PM
Yeah, one of Lincoln's speeches said something like this:
"If I could preserve the Union while freeing all the slaves, I would do it. If I could preserve the Union by freeing no slaves, I would do it. And if I could preserve the Union by freeing some slaves and not others, I would do it."
Therefore, his over-riding aim was to preserve the Union. Everybody knows that.
Old news I'm afraid CKB.
Sorry, better luck next time:wavey:
Dec 27th, 2003, 08:42 PM
I logged on just to say hello to Mr. Boi...
...but I would like to give a big thumbs up to all of you for not only intelligently crushing the intent of the thread, but also entertaining with some really cool smilies.
Ps. in 2004 can we please all get back to fighting? :devil:
Dec 27th, 2003, 11:26 PM
So marital bliss hasn't dulled the Boi's gift for taking things totally out of context. :rolleyes:
Why did Lincoln provoke the secession by declaring in the 1860 campaign that the previous "1-1" admission of new states would end if he were elected (no new slave states). AND reject even the proposal of his Illinois rival Stephen Douglas to let each new state vote on its status re. slavery. Surely EITHER of the above would have preserved the union more easily?
Why did Lincoln issue the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, 2 years B4 the end of the war? (Risking the active support of West Virginia, Kentucky, and other "border states" that had stayed in the Union. Technicnically, it didn't then apply to them, but they knew it meant the end of slavery period if the North won).